[RBW] Re: High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm happy to see that the group are nice people happy to ride the hoods with Leah and Marc. It looks fun! On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 8:23:14 PM UTC-7 Max S wrote: > I think that's just part of the design intent for the bike, and the reason > the drop bar is such a persistent design element.

[RBW] Re: High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Max S
I think that's just part of the design intent for the bike, and the reason the drop bar is such a persistent design element. I think that on a properly set-up road bike, I should have at least 3 positions: 1) Chillin', 2) Groovin', and 3) Jammin' – tops, hoods, and drops, respectively. When

Re: [RBW] Homer 6 months review and questions

2022-07-26 Thread atreya...@gmail.com
Wow thanks for the detailed response Max! I am still on the fence with dyno and lights ; along with that , seat post (may be Thompson masterpiece ) and cassette I think I can shave off another 2lbs without sacrificing on comfort/utility. But still debating about it. On Tuesday, July 26, 2022

Re: [RBW] Homer 6 months review and questions

2022-07-26 Thread atreya...@gmail.com
Bingo! Well said. I think what I am chasing is the handling or response on my homer. The actual weight I don't really care much. On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 2:49:06 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote: > Very nice! I had the same thing happen with the Nitto parts bin :) > > Weight plays a

Re: [RBW] Homer 6 months review and questions

2022-07-26 Thread atreya...@gmail.com
Thanks Steve. I really don't care about speed , I think the speed difference between my homer and atlantis at my level of fitness is probably 0.5 miles / hr :P . I like the nimble handling of homer and super stable /smooth feeling of atlantis (depending on my mood ) On Tuesday, July 26, 2022

Re: [RBW] Homer 6 months review and questions

2022-07-26 Thread Max S
Well, I made the mistake of purchasing a fish scale and weighing my bikes recently... The lightest I had was ~20 lbs, fixed gear at that, and there I was thinking it was crazy light. But they are all ~ 59 cm frames and threaded steerer forks with tall stems, fattish tires, and no krazy karbon

Re: [RBW] Homer 6 months review and questions

2022-07-26 Thread atreya...@gmail.com
Thanks Brendonoid. I agree! Brooks saddle, brass bell and kickstands makes the bike so much more fun and useful. Though I am not using the dyno nmuch I think I will leave it alone. It always there when I need it On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 2:19:01 AM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote: > Your Homer

Re: [RBW] Homer 6 months review and questions

2022-07-26 Thread atreya...@gmail.com
Thanks Roberta. That was a very interesting read. How convinent are those kick stands? PS: I have choco moose on my Atlantis. I love them! It introduced me to chocos and I think they are my # favorites right now. But I am thinking of swapping to regular chocos as they dont play well with my

[RBW] FS- Nitto Handlebar, stems and seat post

2022-07-26 Thread atreya...@gmail.com
Hi, I am clearing my stack of handlebars , stems and posts and hoping to find a good home for these. I finally settled on handlebars and stems that I like. The price doesn’t include shipping. I am based out of *Danville, CA* if anyone is interested in local pick up. Handlebars might have

Re: [RBW] Roadini vs San Marcos

2022-07-26 Thread Karl Wilcox
I have both the Roadini and the San Marcos. They are essentially the same frame in terms of design. The only difference is that the San Marcos can take 38c tires, and my 2018 Roadini only accommodates 35's. The San Marcos in my size also has the double top tube. I actually think that the

[RBW] Re: Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread Jason Glenn
Thanks, all. This was super helpful and informative. On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 2:46:12 PM UTC-7 samwe...@gmail.com wrote: > I got a wheel built by Peter White last year, and we discussed my use > cases, which sound similar to yours, on the phone. He said the only reason > to get a SON was

[RBW] Roadini vs San Marcos

2022-07-26 Thread zem...@gmail.com
I have been happily riding my San Marcos for a few years but have always been curious about the Roadini. Has anyone ever had the pleasure of riding both, and could comment on the differences? I'm considering going for one in the upcoming presale. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Homer 6 months review and questions

2022-07-26 Thread Roberta
Jason, I often wonder how much of my lightening up project (I only did what was practical) that brought me so much more joy in riding was that I got better rims and tires, so the bike just rode better. Many people in my original thread pointed that out. I'm still glad I did the full project,

Re: [RBW] Homer 6 months review and questions

2022-07-26 Thread Jason Fuller
Very nice! I had the same thing happen with the Nitto parts bin :) Weight plays a surprisingly small part of the experience of riding a lighter bike. Most of the benefit of the lighter tubing is how it performs due to the thinner wall thickness (resulting in a "snappy" feel from light

[RBW] Re: Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread Sam McDermott
I got a wheel built by Peter White last year, and we discussed my use cases, which sound similar to yours, on the phone. He said the only reason to get a SON was if I was commuting rain or shine in a cold, wet environment, and otherwise the Shimano or Panasonic (who not-so-long-ago bought out

[RBW] Re: High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Joe Bernard
What the dropbar riders would tell you is they have the option of that higher position plus a lower one. Which is fair if you're going to use it, but in all my years of riding drops I hardly ever did. Gimme my Billies! Joe "upright and catching wind as the Good Lord intended" Bernard On

[RBW] Re: High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Ryan
Not really , basis Marc's photo. Unless he'd pointed it out I wouldn't have been able to tell it was you basis body position. You 2 are riding much nicer bikes IMO. But, admittedly, most modern road bikes by major manufacturers don't do a lot for me. But that's me and YMMV. Not dissing anyone

[RBW] FS: Wool jerseys, rapid rise mech, XT v-brakes, etc.

2022-07-26 Thread Eric Marth
Cross-posted to RBW and iBOB. I have a few things for sale. Prices do not include shipping. I’ll calculate shipping based on weight and mailing from me in 22401 to you. If something strikes you I am open to offers, especially if bundling! Payment via PayPal Friends & Family. Please

Re: [RBW] Re: High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread John Moore
I’m a strong advocate of just enjoy the ride and the more people I see getting out on their bikes the better as good Ol’Mother Earth needs all the help we can give her. Here in Boston, there is a dramatic difference in the number of people I know see out and about on bikes compared to a

[RBW] Re: High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Well, of course everyone should ride what they prefer to ride. Just Ride, and all that jazz, and love your bike and stuff. I think what Marc is saying is that it just seems ironic. We both feel it is our handlebars that make the roadies look askance at us. Something about swept-back bars says

[RBW] Items for Sale

2022-07-26 Thread tdusky
I am doing a 650B conversion and need funds. everything is in excellent condition. Ask for photos or more information Brooks Professional Saddle 1971, $70 excellent condition Campy Nuvo Record brake calipers. Standard reach, nutted. $80 Campy Nuvo Record brake calipers. Short reach,

Re: [RBW] High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Wesley
Agree with Bones. Everyone should ride the bike that makes them happiest, but based on my experience experimenting with all different kinds of bars, I can''t imagine that every single roadie would prefer drop bars if they gave other options a chance. -W On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 6:09:20 AM

Re: [RBW] Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread Wesley
I'm using a Shimano dyno that I bought off this list for like $50 - it's great! I didn't notice a difference from a non-dyno hub to this one, and so I can't imagine noticing the difference if I switched to a SON. Mine is one of the N72 that looks asymmetrical (all the dyno parts are on one side

Re: [RBW] Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
I’ve been running my Velogical with an Edelux II headlight for several years, with no ill effects. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy > On Jul 26, 2022, at 8:57 AM, Brian Turner wrote: > > I recall reading on Peter White's site that you

Re: [RBW] Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread Brian Turner
I recall reading on Peter White's site that you should be careful mixing velogical dynos with certain lights depending on their requirements. He specifically mentioned the Edelux and Edelux II as being ones you *shouldn't use with velogical, or other experimental dyno generators. On Tuesday,

Re: [RBW] Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread Will Boericke
I'll offer the budget perspective. I have two setups on my commuters, one is a Jtek branded Kasai from Sjs cycles, the other a Shimano something-or-other. Both run B front and rear lights. Each was about $50. Both have seen thousands of nasty miles in New England winter. No issues with

Re: [RBW] Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread Jason Glenn
Thanks, everyone, for your informative responses. As Eric said, lots to think about. Intrigued by the Velogical dynamo for my homer, since I have a wheelset for it already. Since I need to build wheels for the Atlantis, I have a sense that the dyno hub might make more sense, although I

Re: [RBW] Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread Brian Forsee
Eric, Do you have any thoughts/comparisons on the SON vs SP for low speeds? I'm looking to get a dynamo set up for single track bikepacking applications. I believe the general consensus is the SON is best at low speeds. Thanks in advance! -Brian in STL, MO On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at

Re: [RBW] Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
Jason: You’ll hear many opinions—good luck sifting through the advice you will get! I have both SON and Shutter Precision hubs and have not had any issues with either. My SONs have ranged from the old-style type with flanges pressed onto a center piece to the modern (and very pretty) type. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread Mathieu Brown
Good morning Jason, I was in a similar situation last year with my Platypus. I wanted to do a dyno and I understood there to be only one quality option. When Will was running through my build with me, he said something like "I mean, you can but you don't need to? The SON28 is great but I have a

[RBW] Re: FS: Marinoni Turismo

2022-07-26 Thread Damien
Hi all! Dropping price to $1,200 USD! Thanks Damien On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 13:42:24 UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote: > Yep, the other was larger, but these are pretty cool, imo. > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread Brian Turner
I've only had experience with the SON 28. My LBS tried to sell me on the Kasai dyno when I was building up a gravel / adventure bike back in 2020. and I almost went that route. However, I decided to splurge on the reputation of the SON 28, and the fact that it seemed to be considered one of the

Re: [RBW] High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Bones
I think that's the whole point. Drop bars are the only option on many over the counter crotch rockets. Many people are not aware of the "endless way(s) to ride." Bones On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 8:52:55 AM UTC-4 jo...@chilmarkresearch.com wrote: > Garth, couldn’t have said it better

Re: [RBW] High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread John Moore
Garth, couldn’t have said it better myself. Whatever works for YOU is all that counts… …though I have been known to give pointers to relatively new riders on form, cadence, gearing etiquette, etc. to help them maintain pace in a paceline. Johnnysmooth > On Jul 26, 2022, at 8:44 AM, Garth

Re: [RBW] High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Garth
I've ridden many a mile and raced with quite low drops bars. I've ridden many a mile with with quite high Albatross bars. I've ridden many a mile with "regular/street" clothes. I've ridden many a mile with "cycling specific" clothes. Day/night/up/down and all around . Who/what is to say

Re: [RBW] High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Bones
I would have said look at all the other riders' body positions compared to Leah's. It's the same. It's the same position I am in while holding front of my Albatross/Billie bars. I can't dispute that drops are great sometimes (mostly wind for me), but I have my drops high enough to comfortable

Re: [RBW] High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Marc Irwin
Eric, The point is that riders don't use that position. Even against the wind, only one with drop bars actually got into the lower position. They all stayed up on the hoods or the flats the whole ride. Marc On Tuesday, July 26, 2022 at 7:38:12 AM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote: > Is there any doubt

Re: [RBW] Homer 6 months review and questions

2022-07-26 Thread Steve Cole
Deepak, What a wonderful ride. I have both a Homer (Toyo) and an Atlantis (MIT). I love them both. First, I wonder whether the under-25 pounds figures you have seen are for Toyo (1st gen) or Waterford (2nd gen) Homers. They had different geometry and used different tubes that may explain

Re: [RBW] High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Eric Daume
Is there any doubt drop bars aren’t faster? Less drag goes a long way. A more leaned over position lets you use your big butt muscles better. Leah is up front because she’s a strong rider. Maybe she would be up fronter if she had drops. Eric With no drop bar bikes in the garage. On Tuesday,

[RBW] High bars at a club ride

2022-07-26 Thread Marc Irwin
It was a normal Monday night ride with the Kalamazoo Bicycle Club. A typical group was riding 15-16 MPH for 25 or so miles. A good bunch of people in biking regalia on their over the counter crotch rockets with drop bars, except for me and Leah Peterson on our Rivendells. with upright bars.

[RBW] Re: Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread brendonoid
I have only used son28s for years but recently acquired a Shutter Precision. The cheaper dyno has a much courser rotation feel but you don't notice it riding. However, I deeply dislike the shutter precision's flange spacing which is unnecessarily narrow and I worry about wheel strength its

Re: [RBW] Homer 6 months review and questions

2022-07-26 Thread brendonoid
Your Homer looks perfect and I would second everything that Roberta has just said. Looking at your build in that photo the only things you could lose weight on are all utility comfort things. The saddle, Dyno, kickstand and brass bell are all weight saving opportunities but also things that I

Re: [RBW] Homer 6 months review and questions

2022-07-26 Thread Roberta
Deepak, Congratulations on your Homer/Atlantis combo. I had a Homer/Appaloosa combo, with nearly the same setup (and same order of ownership), size and impressions as as you. I think these two bikes complement each other well. I even did the lightening up process. I’m glad I did because it

[RBW] Which Dyno Hub?

2022-07-26 Thread Jason Glenn
Hi, all, I've never had a bike with a dyno hub but rode one a few months back -- thanks, Max! -- and have decided to build up a wheel -- my first wheel build, too -- with one for an Atlantis. I know the Son 28 is the go to, and I could be convinced to use one, but I'm working on a limited