Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Jason Zakaras
I’m sure this was just being cheeky, but to ride a bike, dings and all, is to respect it… I love the look of the derailleur and wouldn’t mind adding it to a bike, I don’t think it’s that expensive to have such a unique and pleasing look added to the right bike. My .02. Which might not be as

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread John Dewey
If you were lucky enough to find one of those NOS, it'd probably be close to the cost Jan's. If you need one, cheap at twice the price! Jock On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:16:59 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote: > (Channeling my inner Paul B.) I wonder if the Suntour S-1 had the same > braze on

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread John Dewey
So…RBW. Does a $15,000 handbuilt artbike enjoy preferential treatment or does it acquire the usual beausage like any other? Like your lowly, say, old Rambouillet? https://flic.kr/p/2kafNb7 Feeling silly now  BEST / Jock Dewey Do you let it get all dinged up like your other bikes or do you

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Joe Bernard
THERE ya go. Find yourself an old Schwinn CrissCross (maybe it was CrossCut) with the S-1 braze-on and put a Nivex on it! On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:16:59 PM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote: > (Channeling my inner Paul B.) I wonder if the Suntour S-1 had the same > braze on spec? > [image: Screen

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Headsets and Chains

2022-12-13 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch
Eric, thanks for your take on headset! I was hoping Corwin would post pictures of the headset laid out, not stacked, so one could visualize the respective parts. And one picture I'd like a do-over of is the one that glares out the side of box that lists kit contents. It's esthetically pleasing,

Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Paul Clifton
This just reminded me ... I scored some 27.5x2.8" WTB Rangers the other day. I wonder if they'll be taller on the cliffhangers. On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:53:35 PM UTC-6 Paul Clifton wrote: > Thanks for the chart Laing! > > Deore's and many others clear 2.8" G Ones on a 650b

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Headsets and Chains

2022-12-13 Thread Eric Marth
Scott — Nice for the price and would buy again and not think twice. Nice finish, seems to be considered a good design by people who've run them on their bikes. Zero miles on mine so far. On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 7:34:46 PM UTC-5 cjus...@gmail.com wrote: > Lol. Still getting used to

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Headsets and Chains

2022-12-13 Thread Justus G
Lol. Still getting used to this place. Just realized my last comment responded to something from 6+ months ago...so it goes...at least the thread was current ;) That said, just want to thank the OP again for doing this as CC is so meaningful to the sport of cycling and any support directed

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Headsets and Chains

2022-12-13 Thread Justus G
I think Greg is actually referring to the SS model, which is an early Ibis bike, as opposed to meaning single speed. As someone with a couple of Scorchers, I will only say that the one thing that is more fun than an Ibis Scorcher is a Willits Scorcher with Schwalbe 2.35" Big Ones. Fixed and

[RBW] Re: Platypus v Susie Longbolts Comparison

2022-12-13 Thread Pancake
I've ridden all three: Susie: 2 hour test ride from Riv HQ was delightful. Definitely more mountain bike than the Cheviot, perhaps mostly because it fits and had significantly wider tires. I am significantly over the Susie weight limit, no one was worried about that. Platypus: looks a little

Re: [RBW] Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Brian Forsee
Bill - I guess the first question was rhetorical and the second sincere. My main point was I have doubts about the long term serviceability/replaceability of this derailleur. I agree with your point about most derailleurs not being completely rebuildable, but at least they all mount the same

Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Paul Clifton
Thanks for the chart Laing! Deore's and many others clear 2.8" G Ones on a 650b Cliffhanger on the Gus just fine. I guess I get some leaves in between the tire and the cable sometimes, but that happens with all rim brakes IME. The Motolites technically cleared, if I set them up very close to

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Headsets and Chains

2022-12-13 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch
Eric, what's your in-hand impression of the headset? On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 03:17:05 PM MST, Eric Marth wrote: Thanks again to Corwin for helping with the sale and purchase of these headsets. I've got one I'm preparing to use for a build.  I understand the Grease Guard

Re: [RBW] FS: Shimano BB ES51 Octalink v2 73x113mm... plus maybe some 104/64bcd rings

2022-12-13 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Of course I hit mistakenly send before a full proof read, but I meant 48t, not 48mm, in the last part regarding the 10sp double arrangement on that 32t 64bcd inner ring. Photos also available upon request. On Tuesday, December 13, 2022, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote: > long shot, I'm sure, but the

[RBW] FS: Shimano BB ES51 Octalink v2 73x113mm... plus maybe some 104/64bcd rings

2022-12-13 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
long shot, I'm sure, but the Gus/Susie bottom bracket/crank discussion and some re-organizing of my own has revealed some parts excess of my own so in the event any Gus or Susie owners may be considering some parts-bin kind of builds potentially with older Shimano Octalink v2 MTB cranks and

[RBW] Re: FS: Headsets and Chains

2022-12-13 Thread Eric Marth
Thanks again to Corwin for helping with the sale and purchase of these headsets. I've got one I'm preparing to use for a build. I understand the Grease Guard design was licensed by Suntour, does anyone know who made these WTB headsets and where? I'm also curious to know *when* they were

[RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Wesley
I am glad to see that Keith already suggested unicycle rims. I used some to turn a Redline Monocog 29er into a poor man's snowbike, and loved it. That one used disc brakes, though, so I am not sure what I would have done about rim brakes. I got them from unicycle.com, FWIW. I used plain ol'

Re: [RBW] Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

2022-12-13 Thread Chris L
I wouldn't mind if my Hunqapillar was painted Dupont Imron, Light Continental Blue Metallic w/clear coat!!! I've always loved the color of Breezer #1 and those early Stumpjumpers in a similar color. On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 12:53:02 PM UTC-6 J J wrote: > Echoing Shoji's message, I

Re: [RBW] Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Eric Daume
$200 derailleurs for the people! On Tuesday, December 13, 2022, Berkeleyan wrote: > To borrow a trite phrase, The Nivex shows that RH Cycles have jumped the > shark. The cost is well beyond any common rider's reach, requires > retrofitment brazing, paint, and only works with a custom shifter

Re: [RBW] Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread lconley
My feelings, exactly. I put Rene Herse braze-on centerpull brakes, a Rene Herse crank and Curtis Odom hubs on my Rivendell Custom. I would have put a Nivex on it also, had it been available. I would still be way under the price of top of the line modern electronic CF road bike. Rene Herse did a

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Jay Lonner
I’m sympathetic to the cyclotouriste-inspired aesthetic, but agree that it seems like a very niche setup that is prone to instant obsolescence if RH stops making spare parts. If I were in the market for a new bike requiring custom fittings for a novel shifting system I’d just go for a Rohloff,

Re: [RBW] Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

2022-12-13 Thread James M
Whoa - the adjusters on those Breezer brake levers! (Super interesting thread overall!) On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:53:02 PM UTC-5 J J wrote: > Echoing Shoji's message, I love the diagonal tubes on the Hunqs (and > Bombadils) that had them. > > Thanks for mentioning Joe Breeze. Grant

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
bmfo used two question marks in a post, but I'm not sure whether the questions were sincere or rhetorical. They were: "its still prone to being broken or bent. Then what? " Then the owner of that $15000 custom built bike will buy replacement parts from Rene Herse "Will RH be making this

Re: [RBW] Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch
Readers of this list who also enjoy film cameras will see some parallels between this derailleur and the newly released Leica M6 (or older cameras like the Leica M3, which dates back to 1954 and is still widely sought after and used). Yes, there are innumerable modern cameras that have

Re: [RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Richard Rose
Pm’ed you.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 13, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Hoch in ut wrote:I’ve run both Ehline 2.5” and Honcho 2.6” on Cliffhanger rims. Both measured just about true to indicated. Zero issues setting up tubeless. I’d go with Cliffhangers, personally. I actually have an almost brand new set of

Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread lconley
Shimano Deores are only 4mm (1/6") longer than Paul Motolites. If you want something longer: [image: V brakes.JPG] Laing On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 1:45:07 PM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > Paul brings up an excellent point. If you plan on running the max tire > size on your Gus,

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Bill Lindsay
Laing pointed out that the shift levers are sold out. So is the derailer itself! At least this morning (December 13, 2022) it is. This is never going to be a high volume part. Plan your next $15000 custom bike around it, or gaze from a distance... BL in EC On Monday, December 12, 2022 at

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Brian Forsee
This thing looks cool but as a whole i think it's exceptionally silly. It may be better protected than a standard der but its still prone to being broken or bent. Then what? Will RH be making this thing 10 or 15 years down the line? Same goes for the shifter. I expect some people with a huge

Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Brian Turner
Paul brings up an excellent point. If you plan on running the max tire size on your Gus, just make sure the brake you use will clear it. I had already purchased MotoLites for mine before even considering a tire size. Ended up going with 2.5” Ehlines, which turned out to clear the brakes by maybe

Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Paul Clifton
Richard, I run 2.8" G-ones on Cliffhangers on my Gus without any problems. I don't think the frame would take a bigger tire, and v-brakes almost certainly won't. I already had to Swap the Paul Motolites for Deores to clear the 2.8" G-ones. So if you want Cliffhangers on your Susie, no need to

Re: [RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread iamkeith
I don't know. Like @frahm30 (sorry, don't know your actual name) said, I think rider weight might have a lot to do with it. I had RTPs on my All Rounder, using 17mm rims, and absolutely hated it. I moved them over to an old mountain bike with wider rims and they're great. On the narrow

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Berkeleyan
To borrow a trite phrase, The Nivex shows that RH Cycles have jumped the shark. The cost is well beyond any common rider's reach, requires retrofitment brazing, paint, and only works with a custom shifter that mounts to a downtube. Kudos to Grant and RBW for sticking it out to bring a new RD

Re: [RBW] Saddle height and BPH

2022-12-13 Thread Mackenzy Albright
I find a more slack seat tube I run my saddle a bit lower than a steeper counterpart. Ride whatever is comfortable. Don't worry too much about stand over. French fit looks great. On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 5:59:19 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > Jay, I noticed your mention of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Mackenzy Albright
My assumption is this der setup would be a lifelong purchase? Seems like most bikes that had this originally are still functioning. I'd imagine it'd Pay for itself on a bike that was owned and ridden for manymany years. I think it's beautiful. I won't buy one any time soon. But if I ever win

Re: [RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Mackenzy Albright
IME: type or riding pending rim width in popular bike market is a bit inflated. I run 2.5's on 19mm inner width with no issues. Ive ran rat traps on 17mm inner width tires. The main issue is rolling at low pressure if running tubeless. I've gotten over the perks of tubeless because I like to

Re: [RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Ryan Frahm
Interesting. I can’t imagine not having tubeless with bigger tires especially. Been tubeless for about 10 years and have never had one issue. I did have trouble with my first set needing to be pumped back up every few days for the first month or so. A shop set those up though. I have found

Re: [RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Hoch in ut
I’ve run both Ehline 2.5” and Honcho 2.6” on Cliffhanger rims. Both measured just about true to indicated. Zero issues setting up tubeless. I’d go with Cliffhangers, personally. I actually have an almost brand new set of 29” Cliffhanger wheels, laced to SON28 and Bitex rear (100/135). I wish

Re: [RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Richard Rose
Good to know!Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 13, 2022, at 11:09 AM, Ryan Frahm wrote:Richard, my 2.5” Ehline measures right at 2.5”. They are huge sitting next to the Fleecer Ridge 55mm. They roll very fast compared to the Maxxis tire as well. On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 8:07:31 AM UTC-8 Ryan

[RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread iamkeith
The Dominators aren't technically tubeless. I suppose ghetto technique is always an option. I've decided I hate tubeless though, and am reverting to tubes on my bikes that are tubeless. On my Susie, I used some of those new-at-the-time polyurethane tubes from Tubolito, to save weight. I

[RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread iamkeith
I should add: i built my wheels while waiting for my first-run susie to arrive. (I think I got the rims before the pre-sale even) I wanted to max out tire width and couldn't imagine a 2.8 tire working well on a cliffhanger. I like wide rim-to-tire ratios for numerous reasons. Now that

[RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Ryan Frahm
Richard, my 2.5” Ehline measures right at 2.5”. They are huge sitting next to the Fleecer Ridge 55mm. They roll very fast compared to the Maxxis tire as well. On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 8:07:31 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote: > Hey Keith, are those rims tubeless compatible? > > As for

[RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Ryan Frahm
Hey Keith, are those rims tubeless compatible? As for machined sidewall, neither set of my cliffhangers have them and braking hasn’t been an issue even with the ice and snow. I have seen plenty of 2.8” tires successfully run on a 25mm ID (like the cliffhanger) rim so i wouldn’t worry much

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread greenteadrinkers
The shift lever looks as though it would have to be mounted only to a downtube shift boss, guessing one might have to forgo bar-end shifting. Scott On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 9:47:50 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > The price point + the added cost of having to modify a frame with the

Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Richard Rose
Hi Scott. Right now thinking 2.6” Maxxis Recons. Possibly Teravail Ehline 2.5” but I read they really are more like 2.25”. I’ve owned true “plus” bikes before & ran 2.8”-3.0” tires on 30-45mm wide rims with success. Not sure I want to go that big. Not a lot to choose from in rim brake rims.Sent

[RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread iamkeith
I used the Nimbus Dominator Unicycle rims on my Susie. 42mm outside /.32 inside. They don't offer the machined sidewall version anymore, but I haven't had braking issues. I can detect the pinned joint at times, but it's not a detractor. They're stronger than any other rim (they're meant

Re: [RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch
Richard, what width tire are you wanting to run on your new Gus, 2.8? I'm getting some Cliffs built for my new Gus, and I plan on running 2.6 to begin with and like having the option to run 2.8 tires. 2.6 is within Velocity's recommended rim width. I think one could safely go outside of

[RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread lconley
2mm wider. Laing On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:39:16 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote: > Alex DM-24. When I was deciding what rims to get built for the > Hubbuhubbuh, Rich said that the Alex rims were slightly wider - 1mm -> 32 > mm wide. > > > Laing > Delray Beach FL > > On Tuesday, December 13,

[RBW] Re: Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread lconley
Alex DM-24. When I was deciding what rims to get built for the Hubbuhubbuh, Rich said that the Alex rims were slightly wider - 1mm -> 32 mm wide. Laing Delray Beach FL On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 10:29:31 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > 2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper

[RBW] Cliffhanger alternatives?

2022-12-13 Thread Richard Rose
2.5"-2.6" tires seem to be at the very upper limits for the venerable Cliffhanger. Is anyone aware of a 700c rim brake rim that is a bit wider? I have not found one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: San Francisco/Bay Area Riv Riders

2022-12-13 Thread Slin
Luke - I won't be in town for the 31/1st, but I'll join in on later dates for sure! On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 10:17:05 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote: > Eric – it’d be fun to ch3ck out your neck of the woods. > > Jay – into it. Also suuuper game for Marin-based rides, too. I love it up

Re: [RBW] Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

2022-12-13 Thread Shoji Takahashi
For me, the Hunqapillar diagatube was a visual draw-- I liked it better than the parallel-to-top-tube bar of the Bombadil. The diagatube reminds me of the original Joe Breeze mountain bike frame: https://mmbhof.org/portfolio/first-fat-tire-bike-with-a-new-frame-and-all-new-parts/ Additional

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Brian Turner
The price point + the added cost of having to modify a frame with the proprietary braze-on it needs to mount it would make this impractical beyond the derailleur cost alone for most folks.On Dec 13, 2022, at 9:32 AM, Eliot Balogh wrote:I think Grant said ~$170. Sensah offered to do them for $350

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread J J
I love the image of the peanut gallery here! So besides the price of entry for the RD itself, there is the cost of the lever (any other hardware?), and designing a custom built bike around it or retrofitting a frame with an appropriate braze-on and cable guide, which would probably also mean

Re: [RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Eliot Balogh
I think Grant said ~$170. Sensah offered to do them for $350 which he was adamantly against as he wanted them to be affordable and functional rather than something artistic that no one bought. On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 6:24 AM Shoji Takahashi wrote: > I'd love to try it-- unfortunately an

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I'd love to try it-- unfortunately an unlikely proposition for me. After seeing the RH price point, I'm scared to think what the Riv derailer will cost. shoji arlington ma On Tuesday, December 13, 2022 at 8:39:29 AM UTC-5 Bill Schairer wrote: > I'm intrigued but consider all the bits needed

Re: [RBW] Saddle height and BPH

2022-12-13 Thread Richard Rose
Jay, I noticed your mention of the Pedaling Innovations Catalyst pedal. If you are using a mid-foot position on your pedals ( I do) you may need to adjust your saddle down 2-3 cm. I discovered this on my own then confirmed it with Pedaling Innovations. For this and other reasons I do not favor the

Re: [RBW] Bikes For Sale: Craigslist, ebay, etc. Fall 2022 edition

2022-12-13 Thread Eric Marth
Gus Boots Wilsen 57cm $2,000 Knoxville, TN https://knoxville.craigslist.org/bik/d/greenville-2022-rivendell-gus-boots/7557073606.html On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 9:54:29 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote: > [image: s-l1600.jpg] > > Heron F/F/HS > 59cm > Glencoe, Missouri > >

[RBW] Re: Nivex on a Rivendell?

2022-12-13 Thread Bill Schairer
I'm intrigued but consider all the bits needed to make it happen and one is probably looking at more like $1,500 and, besides that, most of those added bits aren't available!? I'm still intrigued, though. Bill S San Diego On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 3:56:18 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote: > I'm

Re: [RBW] Re: How you choose 2 Rivendells?

2022-12-13 Thread Garth
While I don't own any Riv road bike I was reading the commentary about the Legolas having notably less drop than the usual road Riv. The Legolas is/was sorta presented as a 'Cross frame, yes ? Cross frame implying a higher BB, neutral handling and cantilever brakes. My custom Franklin is