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> > I should add that the 26x1-3/8 wheels include the AW rear hub and a Dyno > front. These came off a much too small (for me) 21" Raleigh Sports that I > picked up in rather nice condition as a mate for the ladies step > through Sports I initially picked up for my wife. The step thru was in

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Thanks Patrick, My intention is to see about spacing the hub out to 120mm as long as I could get around the axle diameter... this would allow greater cross compatibility between a couple frames and basically add an alternate wheelset that could be rotated with a 120 flip flop wheelset so I

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Brian: As far as I know, the old SA axles work fine in modern dropouts with the old rotation washers; I've used 2 types of these, heavy, serrated washers and the type with extensions that fit into the dropout slot. I don't recall ever having to replace the old ones with new ones. FWIW, I was told

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> > Revisiting this thread with a slight deviation but still 3 speed related >> and hoping those of you with more Sturmey Archer 3 speeding experience may >> help clarify: >> >> Are vintage SA rear hubs axles compatible with modern 10mm horizontals by >> simply replacing with appropriately

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That orange thing is RAD. Not funnier than two derailleurs two gears, but eye opening. I feel the low gear would have to be VERY low to countenance pedaling backwards up a hill. Philip www.biketinker.com On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 7:27:29 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Here you go:

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Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xMaalRGsxk Or a 2 ring/2 cog system that needs no idler pulley: https://youtu.be/luQ3VRKZiN4?t=63 On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > Derailleurs are funnier. Literally, that's the reason. > >

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Derailleurs are funnier. Literally, that's the reason. Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 9:31:37 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Those are very usable gear ranges and indeed, you get much more range with > a 2 X 2 than even most 1 X 3s. But what's this talk of

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Very interesting, and I for one will be very interested in hearing your experience with AW and drum brakes. So the AW/drum and the Dynohub/drum combo come in at under 7 lb the pair. On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Here is the response I received

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Here is the response I received from the MTBr IGH forum: http://forums.mtbr.com/internal-gear-hubs/3-speed-drum-brake-questions-1060160.html With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

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Thanks; good to know. I've got a second wheel for my '03 Curt, with a S3X with a freewheel (70/53/44); rather wish I'd used a Sunrace AW for a lower bottom gear (70/53/39). But I hardly ever use that wheel; the 17/19 Dingle gives me 70" and 63" ... On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:36 PM, Shawn Granton

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Patrick- The older (pre Sunrace) ones were the "slippy" ones. The "No Neutral" ones from Sunrace shouldn't theoretically slip. -Shawn No one actually looks at email signatures anymore, but here goes nothing: http://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/ http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/

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Those are very usable gear ranges and indeed, you get much more range with a 2 X 2 than even most 1 X 3s. But what's this talk of derailleurs? Isn't this for a Sheldon-type shift by finger system? On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: >

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Patrick, I would start with one of these setups for a 35mm 700c wheel, but the derailleur doesn’t require an exact match. That’s just my OCD: 36/42 x 16/22 = 45” 53” 62” 72” 36/44 x 16/24 = 41” 51” 62” 76” I might even fool around with a reverse pull fd, so the up/down of downtube shifters

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Shawn -- very interesting, informative; it makes me want a 3 speed off road bike! The only thing that gives me pause is: don't stand in 2nd gear. Heck much of my climbing is standing. Is this a universal rule for all IGHs or just for pre-Sunrace AWs? And surely some of those rough stuffers and

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A bit late to this, sorry. But the Deacon asked me off-list about Three Speed Mountain Bike Resources, and as a (semi-competent) go-to for things three speeds, I figure I should say *something.* Alas, there is no "go-to" list for three speed mountain biking, but to cover some of the points

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Speaking of Joe Clark and Kebec: I recall a CBC satirical group mercilessly poking fun at Conservative Prime Minister (very briefly) Joe Clark back in the day, but that's neither here nor there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pktt77AJjNo Patrick "Be still my fervid imagination" Moore On Thu,

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Wasn't there an icebikelist? A Google, vb, intr, calls up this: http://www.icebike.org/the-history-of-ice-biking-and-winter-cycling/ And this: https://joeclark.org/icebike.html I see that this was updated as recently as 2005 ... I recall a back page feature in the Montreal Gazette or whatever

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Jim, Extreme cold poses the issue of needing lighter lubricant, but does not post the challenge of thaw, mist, freeze. That’s a very different issue. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 3:53:38 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: > The Iditabikers use mostly derailleurs, so there must

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You can get the S3X, or could, in a 130 mm OL spacing. I have one, set up with a freewheel. On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:03 PM, dougP wrote: > Is anyone aware of a 3 speed hub that fits Rivendell's drop out spacing? > IIRC ithat's usually 132.5 on geared bikes. My personal

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Philip: what rings/cogs did you, or would you, use for a 2X2? I agree that, once you get into chain tensioners and chainkeepers, you might as well use derailleurs. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > Patrick is right - you get twice as much

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The Iditabikers use mostly derailleurs, so there must be some kind of freeze protection. I know there are low-temp lubricants but I don't know if they've been used on bikes. Perhaps walrus blubber on the pivots? On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 2:16:19 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > >

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Fascinating, Jeffery! Thanks. I called them. He said the mechanics ride all kinds of MTB trails with the Sturmey Archer 3-speed and it holds up just fine — but these are lads who work on bikes all the time and I couldn’t get a picture of where on the spectrum of “maintenance free” to “well,

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Here's an interesting Instagram post from the folks at Old Spokes Home in Burlington, VT: https://www.instagram.com/p/BbPtcscl8Zr/?hl=en=oldspokeshome It's about three speeds, in crappy conditions ... I'd call it a resource On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 6:10:28 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

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Sturmey Archer hubs are spaced at 120mm, but they come with spacers that allow use in wider frames. I have one on a frame with 126mm spacing and it works fine. --Eric N campyonly...@me.com www.CampyOnly.com Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com @Campyonlyguy > On Nov 8, 2017, at 12:03 PM, dougP

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I remember seeing a schlumpf drive at my old shop. Kinda cool but too weird for me. I currently have my cross check setup as a 2 x 9 with no front der. I didn't have the correct shim so I left the der off and I may just leave it that way. Bif ring for commuting, then nudge the chain over

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I have a dingle speed that works wonderfully... it does require a "manual shift" another idea, though somewhat more technical would be http://blog.jonesbikes.com/6-speed-cassettes/ On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 2:50:46 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: > > Patrick is right - you get

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An aside maybeTom Cuthbertson talked about using SA 3 speed for cyclocross. Bike Tripping-Ten Speed Press. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

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Maybe this might be worth reading? Not sure if it fits the question but it might be worth doing some more learnin' on it. http://www.schlumpf.ch/hp/schlumpf/faq.getriebe.engl.htm On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 10:08:22 PM UTC-5, nash...@gmail.com wrote: > > "Will" at Rivendell has a setup like

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"Will" at Rivendell has a setup like that. 2 x 1 with a Melvin. He manually shifts the front. Seems like a weird idea but unique for sure. Nash -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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Patrick is right - you get twice as much gear change in the rear as the front. But... you can get three times the range if you change them both, right? I had a plan to make a 2x2, mostly for fun. Once you've got a tensioner, it may as well be a derailleur. Conversely, if you've got a

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A 1 x 3 rear cogs would give you bigger range with less axle movement and easier shifting. On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Christopher Murray wrote: > I don’t know that there would be any advantages outside of a simpler set > up and avoiding an IGH. If you used a

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I don’t know that there would be any advantages outside of a simpler set up and avoiding an IGH. If you used a triple with 42x32x24 rings you’d have a low, mid, and high gear. I’d have to figure out the gear inches compared to a IGH set up to see how they compare. I think I’d choose a 3x1

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Chris: I've always thought that the more shifting you can leave the the rear, the simpler and better off you are; that's one reason, I guess, why 1X drivetrains are so popular now, and for decades people have been leaving off the FD to make things as trouble free as possible. Front shifting is

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I always thought it would be cool to add a triple crank to my single speed- 3x1 instead of 1x3. You could get a pretty wide range of gears. Friction shift the front derailer? Has anyone tried this? I might give it a try. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed

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Their is a blogger in Minnesota who used to ride an Alfine w/ a Gates belt then he had a custom bike built to run with disc brakes, Gates belt and a Rolhoff hub. https://fourseasoncycling.com/2016/01/31/my-commuter-bike-design-explained/ Vic of TheLazyRandonneur.com a now defunct blog was a

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Looks like the SRAM Spectro T3 goes a little lower and a little higher than the AW. 39", 53", 72.5" with 34x18. 38", 52", 71" with 35x19. 37", 51", 69" with 36x20. Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 12:46:11 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote: > > I'm running an S2

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The Dutch use SA or Sachs. One of my two speed SAs was on a made in the Netherlands Amstardam. The Gazelle Tour Populair also uses SA. Laing . Anyone know what the dutch bicycles use for IGH? > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

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I'm running an S2 (no coaster brake) on my Quickbeam, commuting into SF. I like it a lot. The low isn't low enough for Patrick's needs, I'd wager. The AW with a 34 x 18 looks nice, depending on tire diameter: 40", 53", 71" gears. The S3X with a freewheel won't go that wide (39", 47", 63").

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On my bike built for winter conditions I have a Shimano Alfine 8 speed hub with a kick brake and a front rim brake for fair weather and back up. You have to have a horizontal drop out to use the kick brake because of the risk of pulling the wheel out of a vertical drop out. Its also cleaner?

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I never noticed friction or roughness or vibration with any AW hub, or for that matter any Shimano 3 speed, but I sure did with the bottom gear of the S3X. But I hear that these hubs "wear in" -- is this so? Note though that my experience with AWs and Shimano 3s includes new as well as used hubs.

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The thing about 3 speed hubs is that they're really designed for relatively low torque applications, namely commuting in mostly flat cities. I wonder about their longevity when they're exposed them to the kind of torques involved with climbing a steep trail offroad. Jobst Brandt, king of

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My 1st fifty miler (getting the Cycling Merit Badge in the Boy Scouts) in 1969 was on a Schwinn Stingray with a Bendix 2 speed kickback hub. Extremely reliable hub, the modern SA, kind of iffy. I have had two of the modern SA hubs and they both clicked (clunked?) loudly when under any sort

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Sturmey Archer's 2-speed hub with built-in coaster brake? http://www.sturmey-archer.com/en/products/detail/s2c-silver Back pedaling slightly shifts gear, back pedaling more applies brake. Doesn't require cables! I have test ridden it for only a very short distance, so I can't tell about its

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I think you're getting onto something there -- 3 speed MTN bikes could be the new single speed MTN bikes. Now, which company would take that on? A super durable, lightweight 3sp. IG hub and stealthy shifter (no doubt incorporating some sort of dropper seat post button as well). I vote for Sram