I tried an aged B-67 and had to take it back to my LBS. Too soft.
Might work for a light rider, but it felt like a saggy, broken down
saddle under my heavy weight.
Totally agree with Grant on the Colt. I had one from my LBS. Tried
to ride it for a few hundred miles. Never could get it
Actually I had a pre-softened Pro, and it was if anything pre-worn-out.
However, right now it's in the hands of a bud and Bob, who said it
disappeared under him.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On
I think I've seen some long-used Swallows, and they seem to need their
tension screws tightened way down after a while. I'm guessing this is a
result of tension being distributed over less leather, increasing stretch.
I had a VO model 6, which stretched out quite a bit from the get-go.
I don't
On Sep 18, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Ken Freeman wrote:
I keep thinking Brooks saddles are best on frames with a 72 or 73
degree seat tube, which would allow at least this rider to use
setback v straight seatposts to get my butt position right. For
me, 74 and 75 frames need either an extreme
It's nice to know that the most comfortable Brooks saddle may very
well be the least expensive. Then again, I've never ridden a Swift or
B17 Titanium... but I'm OK with that..
Peace,
BB
On Sep 17, 11:37 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:06 AM, JoelMatthews
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Subject: [RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
It's nice to know that the most comfortable Brooks saddle may very
well be the least expensive. Then again, I've never ridden
I measured the B17 and the Swift, and they're the same clamping area (60mm)
and same amount from rear to front of the clamping area (~130mm). They
seem pretty similar in that respect:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/
I don't know if they are different in their front-center
The Colt is already available. Initial impressions I have heard are
that the saddle is very hard and not terribly comfortable. Apparently
it is meant to be a race type saddle for the heavier rider.
On Sep 16, 10:37 pm, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote:
In another month or two, these
I'm looking forward to a select B17. If it's simply a thicker stiffer B17
Special that'd be beautiful (unless they cost $300 or something; that'd be
ridiculous).
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:06 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
The Colt is already available.
On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:06 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:
The Colt is already available. Initial impressions I have heard are
that the saddle is very hard and not terribly comfortable. Apparently
it is meant to be a race type saddle for the heavier rider.
I have one of the old Colts that I bout 10
Colt and cutaway saddles in general
The flaps that get cut off are part of the saddle's structure. Without
the flaps, the saddle sags sooner. The Swallow deals with it by
riveting the two sides together underneath, but I've never seen a well-
ridden Swallow (mostly they go on Show Bikes, not Go
For those who think Brooks has been going soft..
(I love the headline)
New Brooks saddles even harder - Vans saddle
Read more:
http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/new-brooks-saddles-even-harder/5484-4.html#ixzz0zoNx5cjM
Swiss select Organic cowhide for your Brooks, perfect, almost as
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 11:14 -0700, Scott G. wrote:
For those who think Brooks has been going soft..
(I love the headline)
New Brooks saddles even harder - Vans saddle
Read more:
http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/new-brooks-saddles-even-harder/5484-4.html#ixzz0zoNx5cjM
Swiss
On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:43 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 11:14 -0700, Scott G. wrote:
For those who think Brooks has been going soft..
(I love the headline)
New Brooks saddles even harder - Vans saddle
Read more: http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/gear-news/new-brooks-
Subject: [RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
I'm surprised to see the comments to the effect that the Pro is
flatter than the B17. I have a couple of each and find them all to
have that distinct hammock shape. The key differences, as far as I
can tell, are that the Pro
In another month or two, these beauties will be available from Brooks:
http://bikereviews.com/2010/06/new-products-from-brooks-saddles/
- Chris
Tucson, AZ
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Subject: [RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
I'm surprised
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 16:37 -0700, Earl Grey wrote:
I had a b17, b17 special, and a team pro. Replaced the team pro with
another b17s. Comfort difference was slight, and I believe mostly due
to lack of break-in due to thicker leather, but the pro didn't have
saddle bag loops. Looks like some
I bought a new Brooks Team Pro nine months ago for the RB-1 and it
didn't have loops. The Viva loops work just fine on it:
http://flic.kr/p/7GTbYE/.
-nathan
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 16:37 -0700, Earl Grey wrote:
I had a b17,
Thomas,
I have the Team Pro on a Gios, a B-17Ti on a Serrotta and another
B-17Ti on my touring rig. I used to ride the B-17 standard(steel
rails) and still have a B-17N on my Holdswoth which will be going to
the bench soon as it doesn't feel quite as nice.
Here's my take.
Team pro is very nice
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Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:20 PM
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Subject: [RBW] Re: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
I'm surprised to see the comments to the effect that the Pro is
flatter than the B17. I have a couple of each and find them all to
have
My original post must have been rejected by the moderator, so I'll
respectfully try again.
A key difference in my opinion is the 3 holes in the top of the B17,
which don't exist on the Swift, Team, etc. I am convinced this makes
a difference in the overall comfort. In fact, I LOVE the assorted
On Sep 11, 5:39 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net
wrote:
Hi!
snip I decided to simply
use a B17 to begin with. I like it fine. But I wonder if a Team Pro
would be even better.
Thomas,
I like the B17s better than the old Team Pro's for longer rides.
YMMV. See if you can
I actually prefer the B17-N or any of the narrower Brooks saddles.
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:09 PM, LF fie...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 11, 5:39 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net
wrote:
Hi!
snip I decided to simply
use a B17 to begin with. I like it fine. But I wonder if
: B17 vs Team Pro... any direct comparison wisdom?
I'm surprised to see the comments to the effect that the Pro is
flatter than the B17. I have a couple of each and find them all to
have that distinct hammock shape. The key differences, as far as I
can tell, are that the Pro is a narrower at the back
From Wallbike, on Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wallblog/sets/72157624333065377/with/4777148941/
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FWIW, I took a couple quick pix of my B17 and Swift:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/ Other than narrower, you can
(kinda') see the similar shape.
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote:
From Wallbike, on Flickr:
Thanks, all. I think what I'm hearing leads me to believe the shape of
the Team Pro is the biggest risk for me; in fact, big enough not to
experiment right now. On today's 20+ mile ride, my B17 felt great.
Maybe better than on my last rude. But I'm losing interest in trying
the Team Pro.
Thanks
When I first started drinking the koolaid a couple of years ago, I
started with a B17. Although it was much better than the Terry Fly it
replaced, (on my then fast bike with handlebars below seat,) I started
to have chafing on my inner thighs. I thought a narrower saddle would
fix that, and I am
bowed in that its front and/or back is/are higher than the middle?
I'd so, does either point up more than the other?
I may actually *like* it, for example, if the nose is turned up some,
whether or not the tail is. However, if the tail is up and the nose
not so much, I wouldn't Luke that.
I
David's right regarding the shape.
For me, a Pro is good only if the h'bars are below the saddle. Even,
get a B17. Wy up there Albatrossess, get the sprung B66/67.
Esteban
San Diego, California
On Sep 11, 3:48 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net
wrote:
bowed in that its
Bowed across the back, from side to side. You can kinda' see it
herehttp://www.wallbike.com/TeamPro.html.
Front to back is pretty flat, with the tail up a touch. B17 are like that,
too.
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean
thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote:
bowed in that its
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 16:47, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Bowed across the back, from side to side. You can kinda' see it here.
Front to back is pretty flat, with the tail up a touch. B17 are like that,
too.
I've been pretty happy on Pro-shaped saddles, although I have a
I'm surprised to see the comments to the effect that the Pro is
flatter than the B17. I have a couple of each and find them all to
have that distinct hammock shape. The key differences, as far as I
can tell, are that the Pro is a narrower at the back and is made of
thicker leather. (I have one Pro
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