Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket toubleshooting trivia

Respondents, I'm grateful for all your input/suggestions. Once again, I've learned through your experiences. John, read your suggestion about possibility of screw retaining BB cable guide being too long and interfering with BB and immediately grabbed my screw driver to check it. Unfortunately (

[RBW] Re: bottom bracket toubleshooting trivia

Your NOS BBs have really nice high quality bearings. I would imagine that the tolerances related to a mild load on those bearings that accumulate from the bearings themselves in the cylinder, the cartridge installation cups' receptacle ends, their threading and the frame's BB threading when all

[RBW] Re: Bottom bracket mounting question

What he said, the aluminum crank is always marked or deformed, never the steel taper. On Sunday, August 12, 2018 at 2:45:26 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Nope. The spindle is steel (or rarely, titanium) and the cranks are > (usually) aluminum. The issue with wear on that interface is with c

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket?

Look into the IRD ones as well. I am contemplating this if I cannot find a loose ball one https://www.retro-gression.com/collections/bottom-brackets/products/ird-defiant-bottom-bracket -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsub

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket?

I've blown out one Campy Mirage sealed BB, but it was old, and I'm sure it was due. Don't forget SKF. I have SKF on 3 bikes, and Phil Wood on my '57 Lenton frame. Like them both, both are adjustable, but I have to say I like the SKF better.

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Overhaul

Yes, I saw the You-tube video, and that is way beyond my tool set. However the suggestion of finding a good local machine shop is a good one and it happens that I know of one. The guy who is currently powdercoating the tandem has a very large machine shop and also builds bikes & rebuilds cars.

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Overhaul

Nay Say-ers , Say it nay'nt so ! ! * and the crowd roars !!! * ahahahaahahahahahahahahahhaha ! On Thursday, April 14, 2016 at 10:39:41 AM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Hey now, don't believe all the doom and gloom! You CAN replace the > bearings yourself, though the p

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Overhaul

Hey now, don't believe all the doom and gloom! You CAN replace the bearings yourself, though the process is a bit convoluted. I've done it twice using nothing but common workshop tools. The last time my BB bearings bit the dust I replaced them with fancy SKF bearings. I thought that would be ch

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Overhaul

There is youtube video from PW showing how simple it is to remove the press fit bearing on the straight axle. The catch is self evident, they have speçial tools and a hydraulic press. Ooops ! It seems they are candidates for PW service mostly , which I venture to gueß with bearings, shipping a

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Overhaul

Never having seen one of these, I'll offer a shot in the dark. Back in the good old days (that pre-dates "back in the day") there existed industrial parts suppliers called "bearing houses". They handled all kinds of bearings, industrial drive hardware (sprockets, chain, pulleys, belts, etc) t

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Overhaul

Yeah I believe you need a serious press which is not common. Assuming you don't have one, you'll be sending it to PW to get it worked on, which might be enough to make you want to recycle it. The bearing designator should be a number on the seal. It starts with a 6, meaning the bearing has

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Use Help

Gentlemen, one and all: just a comment regarding an apparently bygone era when things were simpler. It used to be the case back when rear hubs were 120mm - 126mm, BB's were asymmetrical. That is, there was about another 5mm or so of spindle on the drive side vs. the non-drive. This differenc

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Use Help

Just about all bottom brackets that vaguely look the same as your White Industries BB, all are the same size bearing and so have interchangeable spindles. So, your White Industries spindle is a nice replacement for my old Syncros BB, for example. What I'm getting at is the usefulness of that

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Use Help

Gentlemen, Thank you for the advice. I am going to go with a new spindle length and not try to rig it and have issues. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from i

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Use Help

Put the spacer in and give it a try. I doubt it will make the part unsafe if you can tighten things down enough. On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 8:12:07 AM UTC-4, Mattt wrote: > > > I need 2mm more spindle length on a White Industries Bottom Bracket I want > to use on my Quickbeam. > > Is there dang

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Changes

Thanks To all. Many good points I hadn't considered. Of course I'm embarrassed that I'd forgotten the first step in the Standard Bicycle Diagnostic Flowchart, check Sheldon's website! Joe, A shiny new crank is on its way. Thanks again, ride safe On Monday, July 15, 2013 7:38:22 PM UTC-4,

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Changes

Just get another Tange and you'll be fine. I buy the ln-3922 Tange , it has steel cups which I prefer. I had a Shimano UN-54 creek with a TA Carmina, I isolated it to the BB, so see ya Shimano, hello Tange. Problem solved. As far as a crank being accustomed to a spindle, sure, anything is pos

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Changes

I don't know this to be a common problem, but in this case I'd say you're about due for shiny new cranks. On Monday, July 15, 2013 4:38:22 PM UTC-7, MattB wrote: > As an introduction, I'm a blissed out owner of what may be the only (?) > Hilborne Orange Atlantis. My rideable stable has diminis

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Changes

Matt: Check Sheldon's website. I agree a JIS should be a JIS but he discusses the various tapers, problems, solutions, etc. Things like the bolt bottoming out before getting the crank tight enough, mixing tapers, etc. FWIW, I've had the Sugino cranks off'n'on my Atlantis probably a half doze

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Changes

I know SKS makes their square-taper bosses oversized on purpose, which precludes the problem you're having. My guess is what changed was a set (deformation) in your crank. On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:38:22 PM UTC-5, MattB wrote: > > ...I have found that I cannot get the cranks to seat well. Pl

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

I would add that if the creak stops after you tighten the peddles, you should take them off and relubricate them with a heavy grease. On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Ryan wrote: > I have a newish standard B-17 that creaks...guess I will have to live with > it..using same 27.0 mm Campy record seta

[RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

I have a newish standard B-17 that creaks...guess I will have to live with it..using same 27.0 mm Campy record setapost on my X0-1.If such a thing as a 27.0mm Nitto S-83 was available I'd be all over it...literally and figuratively. Regarding the bottom bracket creak that drives you nuts...I u

[RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

I just had that problem. I tightened the BB and cranks = gone. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

I was really hoping to learn about resolution of the 1xCrank-R creek. I guess we have a sit bone priority. On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 4:20:35 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: > > I have to say again that I ride in NYC so its only on rides around 1am > (when its actually pleasant to ride here) that I he

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

I have to say again that I ride in NYC so its only on rides around 1am (when its actually pleasant to ride here) that I hear it. The rest of the time its pretty much drowned out by NYC noise. I would consider a wider plastic saddle for my grocery getter. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Shaun Meeh

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

You can actually get quality and comfort outside of leather. Really! I like the comfort and looks of leather saddles but I just got tired of the freakin' squeaking. Over the course of several years, I switched out two Brookses (?) and a Selle Anatomica with three WTB Pure V's and I'm very happy wit

[RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

My regular ol' B17 creaks at the nose bolt, took a while to diagnose it, now that I know what it is, and that it isn't a safety item, I don't even hear it any more. May still shoot some penetrating oil of some flavor in there. Jim in Boulder On Monday, July 1, 2013 12:25:35 PM UTC-6, Moj

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

I could just replace my bike with a couch and not have any bike related issues. Nah, I will go for quality and comfort over perceived ease of use. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Shaun Meehan wrote: > I would like to once again offer up my sure-fire solution to > simultaneously fix all creaking

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

I would like to once again offer up my sure-fire solution to simultaneously fix all creaking in a Brooks (or any leather) saddle once and for all AND permanently and completely eliminate all saddle maintenance. Simply remove the Brooks saddle and replace it with a high-quality plastic and vinyl one

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

I just pretend, with the Brooks creak, that I'm an old cowhand from the Rio Grande -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsu

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

On our Brooks Flyer saddles (mine and hers) I spray a little Boeshield at the top and bottom of the spring where it is bolted to the rails, and a little bit on the nose bolt. I also apply a thin layer of grease to the rails before tighting down the seat post clamp. Pretty much everywhere metal

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 11:13:15 AM UTC-7, shawn wrote: > > Anybody have any recommendations on dealing with the creak in the sprung > saddle? This is driving my wife crazy. I tried boeshield, no luck. > Can you inject grease into the area that creaks? Grease should last longer than a lu

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 02, 2013 2:13 PM > *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation > > > > Anybody have any recommendations on dealing with the creak in the sprung > saddle? This is driving my wife crazy. I tried

RE: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation Anybody have any recommendations on dealing with the creak in the sprung saddle? This is driving my wife crazy. I tried boeshield, no luck. On Monday, July 1, 2013 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: Get a

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

I have tried WD 40, Beesewax, it all works for about 10 miles than its creaky again. I have just learned to live with it. the only creaks that bother me are the ones from potential failures or break downs. Known sounds I can deal with, its the unknown that bother me. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:13 P

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

Anybody have any recommendations on dealing with the creak in the sprung saddle? This is driving my wife crazy. I tried boeshield, no luck. On Monday, July 1, 2013 3:43:50 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: > > Get a sprung brooks saddle, it creaks all the time and covers up any other > creaks you m

[RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

don't forget pedals - my buddy stopped in a ride 3 times because his bottom-dead-center creek was getting worse - the week before he borrowed my torque wrench to tighten it. He was ready to turn around, but we found grease exuding from one of his pedals - the pedal bearing was dry. On Monday

Re: [RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

Get a sprung brooks saddle, it creaks all the time and covers up any other creaks you might be hearing. Problem solved. :) On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Phil Brown wrote: > What you think are BB creaks are many times seat post creaks. If it is > from the BB teflon tape may cure it. > Phil Bro

[RBW] Re: bottom bracket creek, recommendation

What you think are BB creaks are many times seat post creaks. If it is from the BB teflon tape may cure it. Phil Brown On Monday, July 1, 2013 11:25:35 AM UTC-7, Mojo wrote: > > So you guys are probably better at this. But just in case: > When your bottom bracket area starts creaking with each p

Re: [RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Clicking Question

Zack, I chased a bottom bracket click for months on my MB3 commuter. I took it to the LBS and they pulled the bottom bracket, pronounced the bearings good, snugged it up, and I went off without a click. Three weeks later my click was back. I went back to the shop and we repeated the process. The s

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Clicking Question

check your pedals. On Friday, September 14, 2012 5:09:19 PM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote: > > It's hard to imagine what you could do to contaminate a sealed BB. It's > easier to imagine being the outlier on the tail end of the quality > distribution curve. The good thing about higher end, eg

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Clicking Question

It's hard to imagine what you could do to contaminate a sealed BB. It's easier to imagine being the outlier on the tail end of the quality distribution curve. The good thing about higher end, eg White or Phil Wood, they would make good on these. Michael On Friday, September 14, 2012 5:49:55

RE: [RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Clicking Question

Bad batch of Tange-rines? From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Zack [zack...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 3:49 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Clicking Question

Ok this is plain weird. My wife came home and said "something is wrong with my bike" I just checked and the exact same thing is happening on her betty as on my sam. So the constant here is me, as I took both cranks off our bikes to swap chain rings. I put the cranks back on and greased the bo

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Clicking Question

yep, sam, yep, tange bottom bracket. took to LBS, they said bearings were the culprit, just having them replace BB rather than mess with it. thanks for the response patrick! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this dis

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket size for an Atlantis

I have the Alpina with a 110mm SKF bottom bracket on my Sam Hillborne and fits great. I know its not an Atlantis but slightly relative. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit http

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket size for an Atlantis

Peter White uses a 120mm Phil on an Atlantis with TA Zephyr triple cranks. http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/atlantis.asp I think 107 or 110 would be to short given the curvature of the chainstays to fit larger tires on an Atlantis. On Dec 12, 12:07 pm, Thomas K Sanderson wrote: > I have a Sugino A

Re: [RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket size for an Atlantis

I agree. I have the same set but replaced the 48 with a 44 and love it. 110 bb works great for my Sam Hillborne. -Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/m

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket size for an Atlantis

I had a 110 BB and went with the 113 Phil on my Atlantis. There was almost no clearance otherwise. I have a Sugino tripple and the granny gear was the problem. Officially the Atlantis comes built by Riv with a 110. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "R

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket size for an Atlantis

Thomas: On my Atlantis, I used a 110mm Shimano BB with a Sugino triple. Clearance is only about 1mm. Next time I'll use a 113mm. For a double, 110mm should work. Hopefully someone with your exact combination will comment but from the above responses it sounds OK. This topic has been discussed

Re: [RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket size for an Atlantis

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Bill Carter wrote: > I installed a 34-48 Sugina Alpina recently on my Waterford 1250.  110 > mm was recommended, used a Simano that size and it worked great with > good chainline. > I just put the alpina on my AHH and the bottom bracket I got for it is a 107mm. S

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket size for an Atlantis

I installed a 34-48 Sugina Alpina recently on my Waterford 1250. 110 mm was recommended, used a Simano that size and it worked great with good chainline. On Dec 13, 7:56 am, Michael Hechmer wrote: > I had an Alpina crank with a 107 Phil Wood on my Ebisu All purpose, but > needed to set it up off

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket size for an Atlantis

I had an Alpina crank with a 107 Phil Wood on my Ebisu All purpose, but needed to set it up off center. Phil's bb have up to 3 cm of variability in the set up, so I would feel confident with a 110 if I were setting up an Atlantis - which I wish I was! -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket size for an Atlantis

I have that crank; the recommended BB size is 110. That's what works on my Bleriot, but I have a Shimano BB, not a Phil. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google

Re: [RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Thread Cleaning

I have a nylon bottle brush that works really well. I splash some mineral spirits on it, and go to work: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2362026686/ On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:02 PM, islaysteve wrote: > That sounds good. Thanks Pete. > > -- > You received this message because you a

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Thread Cleaning

That sounds good. Thanks Pete. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/iadeyvD_wEkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunc

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Thread Cleaning

I have (somewhere) a "poor man's thread chaser". I took an old set of Shimano cartridge BB cups and carefully Dremeled (using a cutting wheel) a 3mm or so "notch" across the threads in 2 locations. Thread the cups into the frame and any gunk from the shell should be "caught" in the notch. Pet

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Thread Cleaning

Thread taps will clean up the threads if they are deformed, but the shop would probably appreciate it if the abrasive grit was out of the threads first. Bill On Nov 26, 6:28 am, James Valiensi wrote: > Hey, > I recommend you have the LBS run a set of BB taps thru your shell. That will > clean i

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Thread Cleaning

If you don't happen to have a can of naptha around, remember that it's the main solvent in WD40. Mineral spirits (paint thinner) should work too. Bill On Nov 25, 1:43 pm, hobie wrote: > Phil Wood suggest Naphtha and an old toothbrush.. Dry cleaners use it. -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Thread Cleaning

Phil Wood suggest Naphtha and an old toothbrush.. Dry cleaners use it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Df4yPv1NMBQJ. To post to this

Re: [RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Stiffness

Thanks guys. I'll pull it out and see how it feels. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9WFQRIb6LcMJ. To post to this group, sen

Re: [RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Stiffness

On Nov 17, 2011, at 10:16 PM, benzzoy wrote: > It could be that there is binding in the installation. Pull out the > BB and do the twist test again. I have found with cartridge BBs that if I crank down the retaining rings or cups (depending on the design) too tightly the bearings seem to bind.

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Stiffness

It could be that there is binding in the installation. Pull out the BB and do the twist test again. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Stiffness

If it's smooth but stiff, it will probably break in. If it's rough and stiff, then I'd replace. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Rda

[RBW] Re: Bottom bracket and the Bleriot

I just got finished building my Bleriot. I installed a Sugino 48/34 double on a 110 bb. When the chain was crossed from small ring in front to small cog in rear, the chain would rub on the inside of the large front ring. I know you should not do cross chaining, but that was the case with this in

[RBW] Re: Bottom bracket and the Bleriot

110 should work. On Apr 29, 4:26 pm, Aaron Thomas wrote: > I have a 110mm bottom bracket and am wondering whether it will work > with the Sugino XD2 triple on the Bleriot. Or does it require a 113? > > In the crankset description on RBW, it says: > > "On road bikes with straight (normal) chain s