[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-05-03 Thread Ty Graham
I honestly don't remember what pressure I ran the Barlow Pass at. Lower than I ever ran Jack Browns at for sure. I fooled with them a lot at my house before departing. Having my wife photograph the sidewall next to a steel rule while I sat on the loaded bike. Nerdery incarnate. I just

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-05-02 Thread John Hawrylak
Ty what tire pressure did you use on the 900 mike trip??? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 7:14:16 PM UTC-4, Ty Graham wrote: Hey, I just wanted to add my $.05. I've been riding Barlow Pass on my 64cm Atlantis for as long as they've been available. Great tires.

Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-05-02 Thread James Warren
Schiller, Leven, Jawnson, Allen, to name a few, but are there really 900 mikes on the forum? :-) Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2015, at 3:31 PM, John Hawrylak john.hawry...@verizon.net wrote: Ty what tire pressure did you use on the 900 mike trip??? John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ On

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-05-01 Thread ascpgh
Ty, Your 5¢ is two bits to me. How they comfortably handle your use is more interesting than the max (useless trivia) recommended pressure. As several have said before, the larger volume tires do seem to have more tactile character change through the range of pressures than 28mm (the wide tire

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-30 Thread Ron Mc
I think dead is a perfect description of Marathons, but they are tough and they are fast. My best riding buddy wants exactly that on all his bikes and runs his pressures high. I'm curious if anybody has tried Barlows on Mavic Open Pro rims. I've figured out from experience that the

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-30 Thread Ron Mc
I think the best argument about optimum low pressure is texture-following. Chatter and vibration from high tire pressure feel like riding with your hair on fire, but as Jan and others have demonstrated, you get the worst rolling resistance when your tire is not conforming to the road surface

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-30 Thread David Banzer
I agree with others. Try them at different pressures before giving up on them. IME, larger volume tires are more sensitive to pressure/feel relationship. That's a good thing as you can adjust them as needed for what road surface you're on. Typically I feel faster on gravel with a lower

Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-30 Thread EGNolan
I haven't tried the Barlows I haven't had Marathons for a while because fo their stiff nature. I recently went from Panaracer Pasela 35's to the new 38's it has been a HUGE difference in feel. Even going from their regular tire to the PT (extra flat protection) the tire is a vast

Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-30 Thread Tim Gavin
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Mike Shaljian mikeshalj...@gmail.com wrote: I think you need to be more skeptical of the notion that the Marathons are, in fact, significantly more flat-resistant than the Barlows. The higher volume and lower pressure characteristics of the Barlow make it, in

Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-30 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
On the subject of pressure: I tried Grand Bois Extra Leger 700x32 before I tried Compass. I think the max pressure (printed on the tire) was 90psi. I'm not sure, it may have been 100 or 110. At any rate, Jan's instructions with those tires were to use higher pressure because of the extremely

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-30 Thread Mark Reimer
Ron, I just received a pair of the 700c Barlow Pass tires and am mounting them on my CX bike, which has Mavic Open Pro rims. I'll report back in a few days after I get a couple of rides in. They'll be replacing the green-label Jack Brown's, which I have zero complaints about, just wanted to

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-30 Thread Ron Mc
thanks Mark On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 4:20:37 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: Ron, I just received a pair of the 700c Barlow Pass tires and am mounting them on my CX bike, which has Mavic Open Pro rims. I'll report back in a few days after I get a couple of rides in. They'll be replacing

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-30 Thread Ty Graham
Hey, I just wanted to add my $.05. I've been riding Barlow Pass on my 64cm Atlantis for as long as they've been available. Great tires. Love the ride. I've been a Jack Brown guy. Also a GB Cypres guy. I have Marathon Supremes mounted on a spare wheelset, but I just hate the ride; too dead.

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-30 Thread Mike Shaljian
I think you need to be more skeptical of the notion that the Marathons are, in fact, significantly more flat-resistant than the Barlows. The higher volume and lower pressure characteristics of the Barlow make it, in my estimation, a very flat resistant tire. I have put probably 3500 miles on

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread John
Hi Daren, What size Marathon Supremes are you riding? And what pressures are you are you using in the Supremes and Barlows? Oh, and how much weight are you carrying on your Atlantis? I'm surprised by how they felt to you, my Supremes are so much stiffer than my Xtra Light Barlows, but

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Bill Lindsay
Let me know if you want me to take your Barlow Pass tires off your hands. I found the extralights to be astonishingly nice on my Hillborne, and would love a set of regular weight ones for my Atlantis. Are you missing something? Maybe, but you should trust your senses. Don't let somebody

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Mc
I think he specifically said they were plusher, but not faster, or not as fast as he wanted. My buddy has 35mm Supremes on his Dahon Tournado, and it rolls extremely well On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:13:21 PM UTC-5, John wrote: Hi Daren, What size Marathon Supremes are you

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Darin G.
Yeah, I was mostly hoping to speed up the Atlantis a little, but it just didn't happen. Its already very comfortable with the big Supremes, but my time over the route was the same with both tires. Maybe on a lighter wheel the difference would be more pronounced. On Wednesday, April 29,

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Not to rob Bill of his possible tire purchase from you, but you may be running the Barlows too high. I weigh 200 and run my tires at 30-40 PSI. Smooth as butter. The suppler the casing the less the need for pressure and the greater the tire's ability to conform to the road, making it faster.

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Darin G.
I ran both the BP and MS at 60 rear, 50 front. On my test ride the other day it was just 210 pounds of me, the bike, racks and an empty rando bag. On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 11:13:21 AM UTC-6, John wrote: Hi Daren, What size Marathon Supremes are you riding? And what pressures are

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Lungimsam
I have wondered about the added speed issue myself. I don't think I have become faster on any tire I have tried. Perhaps those benefits can only be realized by the ultra-fit. I am not ultra-fit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Zack
hmm. i have barlow passes on my sam. i am not sure they make me a whole lot faster. i sure do think they are more comfortable to ride, and i feel like i can ride much longer, and the bike rolls better. i replaced some marathons as well. i think it's like running in hiking boots and then

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Ron Mc
I appreciate the heads up from both of you. I'm riding Challenge Strada Biancas on two bikes, and one of the bikes has room for barlows. Loving my $50 tires, which ride fast and plush at 60/50, and would hate to be disappointed by $80 tires. On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 12:04:08 AM

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass Tires

2015-04-29 Thread Darin G.
I hope I didn't dissuade someone from trying something new. The reality is the compass tires were more comfortable than the marathons but didn't improve the performance enough in my calculus to be worth trading for the flat-resistance the marathons offer. This is a commuter bike and I don't

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass tires

2014-05-11 Thread Jan Heine
Take this with a grain of salt, since we are the makers of these tires... but we only sell what we use, and we use our bikes hard. We've ridden these tires (and the similar Grand Bois Extra Légers) on gravel for many hundreds of miles, and they work very well. I put them on my son's bike, and

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass tires

2014-05-11 Thread Philip Williamson
Re: stiff wires on highway shoulders. I have one bike set up tubeless (2.2 120 tpi), and one with Tire Savers (C-lines), and my number of flats went to zero from many. The one flat I've gotten in the last several months is from when I changed gears mid-ride on my fixed gear, and didn't readjust

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass tires

2014-05-11 Thread Jan Heine
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:20:22 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: Do you find tire savers help protect against wire flats on the Barlow Pass tires? We get so few flats that we don't bother with tire wipers (aka tire savers) any longer on wide tires... However, there is no reason why they

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass tires

2014-05-10 Thread Rod Holland
On Friday, May 9, 2014 9:50:22 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: A pair of these tires have found their way onto my Sam Hillborne. Realize they will stretch some, but at first glance, they looked a lot skinnier than the Baby Big Bens that were on the bike. Due to recent bad weather, only was able

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass tires

2014-05-10 Thread Rod Holland
After 250 miles, my pair of Barlow Pass tires measure 37.6mm; they should stretch a bit for you with use. rod On Saturday, May 10, 2014 3:31:02 PM UTC-4, Rod Holland wrote: On Friday, May 9, 2014 9:50:22 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote: A pair of these tires have found their way onto my Sam

[RBW] Re: Compass Barlow Pass tires

2014-05-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
I am debating getting a pair of the Barlow Pass tires for my long meandoneering rides. What has folks' experience been with them on dirt roads with loose gravel/sand? Also could someone compare and contrast the ultralight casing with the standard casing? With abandon, Patrick -- You