[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-09 Thread Deacon Patrick
The max spread of a dos freewheel is fairly small, yet you can get a wider spread with two single freewheels and get profiscient at flipping the tire. It takes about a minute when you get the hang of it (unless you’re loaded with panniers, then that’s a different story!), vs 30 seconds with a

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-09 Thread Eric Karnes
Thanks Patrick! I really like the idea of riding a single speed everywhere. I've always been a bit of a minimalist, so the idea definitely fits into my lifestyle (one of these days I'll ask to pick your brain about floor living). But in practice it's intimidating once I get out of the (flat)

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2018-06-07 Thread Ian A
This looks like it might work for the S1 https://veloduo.glopal.com/en-CA/p-10261314567/sunxcd-chain-tug-with-derailleur-mount.html IanA On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 5:54:35 PM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote: > > So, I've been pondering something lately... > > As I've mentioned a number of times in

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread S. Greco
In my modded Simpleone, linked to above , the derailleur tab could always have easily been ground off if it needed to be returned to stock. The

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread S. Greco
I converted my Simpleone so that it could run gears. I had a derailleur hanger brazed on to the track ends and modified a wheel set I already had so that it could fit 5-6 speeds into the 120 spacing *without* the need to spread the rear. I wrote about it in greater detail here:

Re: [RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread Eric Norris
Yes—the 8-speed hub lost a couple of gears and had to be repaired by S-A. As I recall, it was under warrant, but I had to pay for shipping there and back. I’ll take some updated photos of the QB and post them when I get back home from a business trip. --Eric N campyonly...@me.com

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2018-06-07 Thread Patrick Moore
On the subject of S3X hubs: I was told by the SA agent for these things, last year, that you can buy replacement innards for the S3X for $100, thru your bike shop. With that in mind, if anyone is interested in a 120 (126? I used it in a 126 OL frame) 32 hole S3X, red barrel, silver flanges,

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread blakcloud
I didn't go through all the replies so forgive me if this has been posted. https://www.fyxation.com/products/six-fyx-conversion-kit This to me is the most elegant solution to your problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

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2018-06-07 Thread iamkeith
Eric - sorry for repetition. I was typing while you posted much of the same comments. Earlier in the thread, I linked to pictures of your 8 speed Quickbeam. Is that the one that gave you trouble? On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:56:25 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote: > > Joe: > > I have IGH on two

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread Joe Bernard
Hehe, any arguments against IGH go out the window when it comes to Rohloff. I don't need it, can't afford it, but I want one anyway! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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2018-06-07 Thread iamkeith
Eric, you posted while i was typing much of the same. Earlier in the thread, I linked to pictures of your Quickbeam with the 8-speed hub. Is that the one that gave you trouble? On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:56:25 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote: > > Joe: > > I have IGH on two bikes—both are

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2018-06-07 Thread iamkeith
I hear you on all that, Joe, and basically agree as well. And I don't mean to turn this into a IGH debate - but in this case it's vaguely relevant to the discussion at hand about how best to add gears to a QB/SO. The things that I personally like about IGHs happen to be the same things that

Re: [RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread Joe Bernard
Yes, the look and chainline of IGH are a definite benefit. I've used them on a few bikes and have one coaster-brake single now. They have their place in the bike world, I just don't buy some of the "it's simple and maintenance free" reasons for having them that are often promoted. -- You

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2018-06-07 Thread Ron Mc
sounds neat Eric, can you offer photos? On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:56:25 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: > > Joe: > > I have IGH on two bikes—both are Sturmey Archer’s S3X fixed-gear > three-speed, modified with a spin-on single speed freewheel to become more > like a standard hub

Re: [RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread Eric Norris
Joe: I have IGH on two bikes—both are Sturmey Archer’s S3X fixed-gear three-speed, modified with a spin-on single speed freewheel to become more like a standard hub (coasting). This setup is stronger and simpler than a standard three-speed, because there are no pawls inside the hub (they are

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread Joe Bernard
I had a chat with Grant a few months ago about IGH which was mostly two guys agreeing with each other, so take that for what it's worth. I don't hate 'em and I don't think he does, either; my complaint is the "no maintenance" marketing-speak that proponents invariably present as a feature over

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread Matt B.
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 8:52:58 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: > > I demonstrated you can build a bolt-on bike without altering an original > frame (this time 60-y-o). There are enough options out there to build this > correctly, I would be against spreading the frame to 130mm, etc. The >

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread Ron Mc
I demonstrated you can build a bolt-on bike without altering an original frame (this time 60-y-o). There are enough options out there to build this correctly, I would be against spreading the frame to 130mm, etc. The original QB frame deserves that level of respect. On Thursday, June 7,

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-07 Thread iamkeith
;-) For now, maybe. There was also a time when Grant wouldn't tig weld a frame. I know he doesn't like IGHs because it's not immediately visible how they work from viewing the outside, but I also think that applies to the more elaborate ones. Who as a kid didn't tear down and rebuild one

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2018-06-07 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I don't suppose the folks at Riv are much into pressing charges of blasphemy, but if they were, I'm guessing an internally geared hub would be higher on their list than spreading a steel frame (which, like an IGH, can be changed back.) :^) On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 11:18:33 PM UTC-4,

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-06 Thread Philip Williamson
That was also a fun setup. I like the ability to shift when I want, and my hub had the brake, which I didn’t like. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

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2018-06-06 Thread Ron Mc
pss - increasing the Phil axle stubs to 120mm, it would easily fit a 7- speed freewheel - I have enough room at 115mm to fit 6 if I wanted, and did *work out the drivetrain for an Ultra 6 freewheel

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2018-06-06 Thread Ron Mc
but proof any insane idea works if you throw engineering and money at it. Phil Engr. approved this dish with Synergy O/C rear rim, and the wheels are very strong. The bike's a hoot. On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:57:13 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > > >

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2018-06-06 Thread Justin, Oakland
Alternate idea: Spread the frame. Rohloff. Done. Alternate alternate idea: Schlumpf front crank with internal rear hub. So many gears. Alternate alternate alternate idea: Do some squats and get stronger legs. -J, with weak noodle legs in Oakland -- You received this message because you

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2018-06-06 Thread Ron Mc
found one more photo I had of the hub On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 10:51:52 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: > > The Grand Bois cassette hub is a great idea. > Might also call Phil and find out they can still do a custom freewheel > hub. > >> My '57 Lenton

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-06 Thread Ron Mc
The Grand Bois cassette hub is a great idea. Might also call Phil and find out they can still do a custom freewheel hub. > My '57 Lenton bought as bare frame was still built on SA rear hub specs, though originally was fitted with a 4-speed freewheel hub with 3/8" rear axles. Michael at

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2018-06-06 Thread Belopsky
youd have to run full length housing but otherwise it works fine On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 11:24:47 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote: > > Hmmm...I like the idea of the 120mm hub and bolt on derailleur! I didn't > know they existed and will do some research. The idea of permanently > modifying

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-06 Thread Eric Karnes
Thanks guys! Great info. This is why I love this group! On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 11:21:42 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote: > > http://www.cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/gb_lfqr_R120126.html > > On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 11:21:12 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote: >> >> heres one in silver >> >>

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-06 Thread Eric Karnes
Hmmm...I like the idea of the 120mm hub and bolt on derailleur! I didn't know they existed and will do some research. The idea of permanently modifying the frame definitely gives me pause and this way I wouldn't have to find another... On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 9:54:16 PM UTC-4, Justin,

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2018-06-06 Thread iamkeith
Philip, didn't you put a sturmey archer 3 speed on yours at one point? With the shifter on the seat stay? What did you not like? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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2018-06-06 Thread Belopsky
http://www.cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/gb_lfqr_R120126.html On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 11:21:12 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote: > > heres one in silver > >

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-06 Thread Belopsky
heres one in silver

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-06 Thread Jonathan D.
I am definitely intrigued by the QB. It seems to be easily one of the all time favorites. I assumed it was the same as a Ram or Rom and just built as a single speed. At some point I might have to cave and buy one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

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2018-06-06 Thread Garth
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 7:54:35 PM UTC-4, Eric Karnes wrote: > So, I've been pondering something lately... > > > As I've mentioned a number of times in various discussions here, I'm > completely enamored with my SimpleOne. It's the best bike I've ever ridden. > But I lack the legs of

Re: [RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-06 Thread Patrick Moore
Wouldn't that be 52 and 72 gi, with the 1.37 or 1.38 overdrive of the SRAM and SA kickback hubs? At any rate, 52 and 72 would seem to be very good gears for on road and off road riding. On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 7:31 PM, Ron Mc wrote: > How about a 2-speed automatic rear hub > >

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-06 Thread Justin, Oakland
I contemplated this when I had an SO. I would get a 120 spaces hub and a bolt on derailleur. Test it out. If you feel like it’s your thing then do the frame mods. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

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2018-06-06 Thread Philip Williamson
My favorite gearing choice on the Quickbeam so far is the S2 kickback hub (no brake). My second favorite is the single-sided two-speed setup with two rings and a surly dingle cog. To get a wider range of gears on the QB, I'd probably go the 120mm cassette route, with a bolt-on hanger, maybe

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2018-06-06 Thread Ron Mc
How about a 2-speed automatic rear hub my buddy has a SRAM on this custom he built with 57" and 72" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

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2018-06-06 Thread christian poppell
You have a few quick ways to get some kind of multispeed QB/SO *White Industries Duo/Surly Dingle* Manual shifting, which you probably already have. I find that having the multi speeds on one side of the wheel greatly reduces the amount of time it takes to change gears. I can switch in just

[RBW] Re: Is this an insane idea?

2018-06-06 Thread Eric Karnes
I actually purchased a used Hilsen with the same tt length and set it up just like my SimpleOne. Same rims, spokes, saddle, handlebars, etc. It just wasn't the same. Could be the geometry differences. BB drop, HT angle, CS length. Or different tubing. I'm not expert enough to be able to know.

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2018-06-06 Thread CMR
Ask Riv what they consider to be the nearest geared copy? Maybe a hillborne. With the dropout costs and the new paint you will be spending a chunk of money. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

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2018-06-06 Thread Jim M.
Do it, and then post pics. The QB is one of my favorite bikes for handling and ride quality, and I thought of asking Riv for a QB with der hanger. Blasphemers can be forgiven. jim m walnut creek, ca On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 4:54:35 PM UTC-7, Eric Karnes wrote: > > So, I've been pondering