Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-09 Thread Sarah Carlson
CONGRATULATIONS on the new PLATYPUS! And that Antonio build is a fabulous choice. The Billie Bars are a dream, and if this set up doesn't make her fall in love in riding I don't know what will. I have a B67 on my Platypus. I was riding for a while on the Rivet Sonora which is by far my most

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-08 Thread Johnny Alien
Congrats to you and your wife! Thats a killer color too! We shall all demand photos when it arrives. On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 8:04:02 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > I have Rivets! I would love to try the Loveland but only have the Sonora. > It’s really great. Mount it level.

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-08 Thread SeanMac
Hey everyone. Wanted to take a moment to close the loop on this conversation. Earlier today, after much discussion, my wife and I ordered a Platypus! She snagged a web special - 50 cm in Sergio Green with a triple crank and a Billie Bar. She [we] nearly pulled the trigger on a purple

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-05 Thread Kim H.
My 52cm Clem Smith Jr L bicycle is my one and only favorite bike. I cannot see myself on any other Rivendell bicycle. My old road bike has long been retired and no interest in riding it. Kim Hetzel. On Fri, Jan 5, 2024, 12:21 PM Johnny Alien wrote: > I would also add that if someone forced me

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-05 Thread Johnny Alien
I would also add that if someone forced me to get rid of one Rivendell and live with just one bike it would be the Clem. I think it is the most RIvendell bike ever in spirit. A cushy ride that will go anywhere and is not too fancy. Thankfully no one has made me make that choice. On Friday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-05 Thread Johnny Alien
I stick by letting her pick. She is currently riding a 30 year old Trek hybrid so either one will fit her riding conditions. If she doesn't want to spend the extra cash then the Clem is a fantastic pick. I love mine and personally wouldn't trade it for another Riv (noting that I have a lighter

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-05 Thread Garth
Obviously the Platy requires more material and labor for the extended mid tube. Bicycles are long term investments though, so letting a few hundred dollars get it in the way hardly qualifies as a valid reason to dismiss something base don that alone. Get the one that is appealing to look at

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-04 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
I have weighed in on that thread that was quoted, but I’ll chime in again because my name got mentioned. I had both bikes, loved both bikes. But the Platypus is the better fit for me. I like to ride pavement and I do like to go fast, and that’s the sweet spot for a Platy. And, it fits me

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-04 Thread Kim H.
...or if you get a Clem, you are welcome to join the Clem Club. Kim Hetzel. On Thu, Jan 4, 2024, 8:38 AM Ben Compton wrote: > also if you get a platypus you get to join the platypals, which is a thing > I just made up > > On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 8:51 AM Sarah Carlson > wrote: > >> Yes, did you

[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-04 Thread Roberta
I've ridden the Betty (new to me), Cheviot and Platypus. I've also ridden, but just a little bit (like just to get the feel), the Clem L. You cannot go wrong with any of the above. Platy rides nicer than the Cheviot. Clem L is more "Cadillac" like. Platy "seems" faster. My first Riv was

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-04 Thread Ben Compton
also if you get a platypus you get to join the platypals, which is a thing I just made up On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 8:51 AM Sarah Carlson wrote: > Yes, did you know when you you get your lady a Riv she has an immediate > community of RivSisters? Pam has brought up the most wonderful point! > > On

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-04 Thread Sarah Carlson
Yes, did you know when you you get your lady a Riv she has an immediate community of RivSisters? Pam has brought up the most wonderful point! On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 8:40:34 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote: > Leah, aka Bicycle Belle Ding Ding would be a good person to comment since > she

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-03 Thread Pam Bikes
Leah, aka Bicycle Belle Ding Ding would be a good person to comment since she has both. I'd go for the Platypus. I have the precursor which was the Betty Foy and love it. And it's the follow up to your Cheviot. Please let her pick out the color. And all the RivSisters will have fun helping

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-03 Thread Kim H.
@Tim - Long live the Clem ! Kim Hetzel. On Wed, Jan 3, 2024, 8:47 AM Tim Bantham wrote: > Hi Sean, I'm over here near the Albany end of the Erie Canal trail. I've > had similar circumstances with my wife. She owned a Trek mixte which she > really enjoyed. For years I've been telling her about

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-03 Thread luckyturnip
Damn now I want one, who has a 52 Clem in the Sacramento area I can look at?-LizOn Jan 3, 2024, at 11:03, Nick Shoemaker wrote:So true, Richard!I'm an unabashed Clem-lover (thanks for selling me yours, Al!), but with the arrival of the Complete Platypus, I'd almost certainly pay the extra $500

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-03 Thread Tom Wyland
Ha Ha, yeah I never bothered to go find Kim's bike and look at it. So yeah they're basically the same. On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 10:07:15 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: I'm not sure I would call a Clem with 4 empty bottles/cages, rear rack, fenders, and a pump "naked" haha -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-03 Thread Richard Rose
“I wouldn’t overlook the Clem.” Truer words never spoken.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 3, 2024, at 11:47 AM, Tim Bantham wrote:Hi Sean, I'm over here near the Albany end of the Erie Canal trail. I've had similar circumstances with my wife. She owned a Trek mixte which she really enjoyed. For years

[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-03 Thread Tim Bantham
Hi Sean, I'm over here near the Albany end of the Erie Canal trail. I've had similar circumstances with my wife. She owned a Trek mixte which she really enjoyed. For years I've been telling her about the magic of Rivendell Bicycles which mostly went in one ear and out the other. She always

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-03 Thread Johnny Alien
I'm not sure I would call a Clem with 4 empty bottles/cages, rear rack, fenders, and a pump "naked" haha On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 9:47:36 AM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote: > My Platy with Bosco bars, Nitto R-14, large Saddlesack, tool kit, Dyad > wheels, frame pump, dynamo lighting, etc

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-03 Thread Tom Wyland
My Platy with Bosco bars, Nitto R-14, large Saddlesack, tool kit, Dyad wheels, frame pump, dynamo lighting, etc weighs about the same as Kim's naked Clem. So from a weight perspective it's more about the "build and bags" than the frame, in reality. Tom On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 7:52:31 

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-02 Thread SeanMac
Thanks for all of your responses to my request for information. I am very grateful. Steve - your Platypus is gorgeous! Is the terrain in that picture typical of the kind of riding? Sarah and Al - you have kind of hit my dilemma. I have really enjoyed the opportunity to bike with my wife,

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-02 Thread Kim H.
I decided to weigh my Clem without my rear trunk bag. My bike weighs 32 lbs with all of four of my empty water bottles and cages, rear rack, fenders and frame pump. Kim Hetzel. On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 8:48:30 AM UTC-8 Kim H. wrote: > I, too, own a 52cm blue Clem Smith Jr L bicycle.

[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-02 Thread Ryan
Joyce makes a good point about finding a way for your wife to try both and pick the one she likes best...and Joyce owns both. One good thing seems to be that there is no bad choice Good luck whatever you decide! On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 2:49:50 PM UTC-6 JAS wrote: > I have both a 52

[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-02 Thread JAS
I have both a 52 Clem and a 55 Platypus so I'll give you my 2 cents. I'm 5'7" with long legs and a short torso so both are set up with Bosco handlebars and bars just above saddle height. I like to sit up and look around; they're both very comfortable riders. I'm 70 and retired; I ride at an

[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-02 Thread Joe Bernard
I've just bought a 52cm Clem L (I've owned them before) and have a Riv Custom that was designed similarly to the Platypus: lugs, lighter pavement-oriented tubing, long chainstays, low stepover but not a true step-through like the Clem. My first impression after hopping off the custom and

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-02 Thread Kim H.
I, too, own a 52cm blue Clem Smith Jr L bicycle. For the record, I run 27.5x2.25mm Racing Ralph tires with Honjo Flat 65 fenders with no problem. I see my Clem as a A. T. B. It's capable of riding on pavement and off road. The bike is very stable with it's long wheelbase. It is a heavy bike. My

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-02 Thread Patrick Moore
I meant to add: if a 59 cm Clem can take true 622X60s I might just give up trying to find a Monocog replacement and get a Clem for sandy train riding -- we'll see. Next installment: weird non-deraileur drivetrains for a Clem. On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 9:18 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > Al: Can you

Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-02 Thread Patrick Moore
Al: Can you clarify what you mean by "more utilitarian"? I keep a Clem in mind as a future purchase, and for my use, if the difference with the Platypus is largely cosmetic, I'd choose the more utilitarian model *if the ride is as good or better.* Also, while I've asked this before, I keep

[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-02 Thread a spen
Sean, I will second Sarah's sentiments about the Platy. I have owned both and found the Platy to be responsive, agile, stable and an utter a joy to ride, not to mention handsome candy for mine eye. I'm tall and so both bikes turned out to be too low a stack height for me, to my great

[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-02 Thread Doug H.
Steve, The black rims, fenders, cables and levers look awesome on your Platypus. Nicely done. Doug On Tuesday, January 2, 2024 at 8:55:18 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com wrote: > Can I put in a plug for the Platypus? I've been riding mine on group rides > and it's been a delight. The bike is

[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-02 Thread Sarah Carlson
Can I put in a plug for the Platypus? I've been riding mine on group rides and it's been a delight. The bike is gorgeous. The price took away my breath one time when I made the payment, but I get a little flutter every time I see my bike, and the joy I feel when I ride it takes away any memory

[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-01 Thread Kim H.
There is another related thread about this: https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/ho2ri9Tm6jQ/m/mVKYtqAIAQAJ Kim Hetzel. On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 4:52:04 PM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote: > I used the word perhaps a LOT of times there > > On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 7:51:39 PM UTC-5

[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-01 Thread Johnny Alien
I used the word perhaps a LOT of times there On Monday, January 1, 2024 at 7:51:39 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote: > > For the type of riding you describe either will work. Since it is for her > she should go with whichever speaks to her more. Perhaps a higher price > will make her treat it more

[RBW] Re: Platypus or Clem - Please help me choose

2024-01-01 Thread Johnny Alien
For the type of riding you describe either will work. Since it is for her she should go with whichever speaks to her more. Perhaps a higher price will make her treat it more delicately and perhaps ride it less OR perhaps because the Platy is fancier she will wan to ride it much more. Either