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2016-12-06 Thread Tim Butterfield
I had a similar issue back in 2009 not too long after I started running. I was unable to nose breath easily also. In my case, I had both a deviated septum and a bony tumor in my sinus. Once those were taken care of at the end of 2009, I could nose breath easily. A crimped tube can never

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2016-12-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Lum Gim Fong, your deviated septum may not be material to your breathing issues, while over breathing may be. Try this as you sit there reading this: 1. Breathe through your nose, mouth closed, including exhale. This is your baseline. 2. After exhaling fully, pause. Hold your breath until just

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2016-12-05 Thread lum gim fong
Wow! I have to mouth breathe when I ride at any speed. I have a deviated septum. Even sitting still at home, there is resistance breathing through the nose . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

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2016-12-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'm not sure what comment or whom you are responding to; however, I don't breathe through my mouth unless I'm way into anaerobic level effort, so I can't speak to that, but yes nose breathing condensation does freeze on my beard, sometimes to the point of welding moustache to lower beard.

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2016-12-05 Thread lum gim fong
But does the mouth breathing condensation freeze on the beard? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2016-12-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Oh! That's brilliant, Tim! Yes! Yes! Yes! I'm already thinking of a shearling version, with wire woven into the top and bottom for shaping. H. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 1:42:59 PM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote: > > I am definitely a blustery bonzo. I breathe very

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2016-12-05 Thread Tim Gavin
I am definitely a blustery bonzo. I breathe very heavily when fat biking, and Iowa winter days are either super cold (<10 F) or cold and moist (10-30 F). I use safety glasses or snow/ski goggles, so my eyes are fine. But I've had a hard time finding a mask solution that works in very cold

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2016-12-05 Thread Anton Tutter
Some of us have sensitive sinuses. Mine will ache for hours after breathing in cold air for as short a time as 1/2 hour. Having a balaclava with a covered mouth section is essential for me to ride in winter. Anton velolumino.com On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 4:16:16 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick

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2016-12-05 Thread Garth
Hmmm, since the piece that is to cover your nose has to have some body to it to withstand collapsing in the wind, why not try the universal fixall, duct tape? Sure, make a little flap to cover your nose and sew it on your existing mask. Make it double thick, smooth on both sides. At

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2016-12-04 Thread Robert Barr
Deacon - you know my preference for fleece, and I would never try to convert you! But I will tell you that I have had good luck with a number of Seirus products. They seem to understand us nose open to the air people. Even their multi-layer balaclava lets me lift the lower panel to vent. Take a

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2016-12-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'm picky. I want unfiltered, unwarmed air. That's what my sinuses are for. Grin. Plus, blech filter smell vs. crisp mountain air? Nah. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 1:42:34 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote: > > What about the balaclavas that have that breather piece built

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2016-12-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks. Very nice. I'll have to put these on my "keep in mind" list. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Looking at ultra distance riding in extreme temps event photos no one has a > viable long term wearable winter mask. The "beak

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2016-12-04 Thread lum gim fong
What about the balaclavas that have that breather piece built into them over the mouth? Maybe a Canadian rando group or Canadian commuter page? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

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2016-12-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Looking at ultra distance riding in extreme temps event photos no one has a viable long term wearable winter mask. The "beak extender idea Zed pointed to is the best one I've seen so far. It looks like most riders keep their face clear unless they have no other option, which is my experience as

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2016-12-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks Jon. Have wool Buff, no work at 10˚ to minus 20˚F, which is a whole different level of cold vs warmer than 10˚F (where I don't need more than my beard. Grin.). Lum Gim Fong, any randonneur groups are in the lowlands rather than the highlands, so they generally don't ride on "those"

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2016-12-04 Thread lum gim fong
Patrick, You can also try a local to you randonneur website page. They are mega milers in all weather. They probably have a forum of their own and can tell you what works for them on up to 600k rides in the Colorado wilds in winter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

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2016-12-04 Thread Jon BALER
The key to using a buff is pull it down when going slow and breathing hard (e.g. uphills). that keeps it dryer of course. If it's super cold (teens), it will freeze dry to a certain extent too. the beauty of the buff is that you can always rotate it if one spot becomes too damp to breathe

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2016-12-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Jon. Yeah, the problems I have with Buff buffs is they don't block wind and they get very damp and then freeze and then I have to choose between breathing and it now being an effective wind block fabric ice barrier. Grin. Hey lum gim fong, I'm not smart enough to A) realize that cold

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2016-12-03 Thread lum gim fong
Do you find your derailers dont work as well in such cold? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

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2016-12-03 Thread Jon BALER
I am a fan of buff on my neck and face. Put it around your neck, and pull up in the back of your head. Pull it up over your mouth and nose on downhill, and pull it down when going slow and breathing hard. They even have a wool one, which is larger than the standard thinner fabric.

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2016-12-03 Thread lum gim fong
I would use Florida ;) That would solve the problems. I am definitely not a cold weather type of person. Too much work to keep warm. But you do have those spectacular views to admire in Colorado! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

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2016-12-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
You may be on to something there, Zed. Hmmm. I wonder how easily I could had a loose twill flap over a larger nose opening. Interesting concept! Thanks. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 10:23:08 AM UTC-7, Zed Martinez wrote: > > Not quite to all your needs sadly (it's

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2016-12-03 Thread Zed Martinez
Not quite to all your needs sadly (it's primary component is neoprene), but the snowmobiling 'Fog eVader' mask and some big old goggles are the only thing I found which work on my deep winter commutes. My route is a rail trail though, so, it's mostly 6 miles of head-wind I'm grunting against.

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2016-12-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Photo of test face mask here: http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/question-for-fellow-blustery-bonzos With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 9:33:28 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Are you a blustery bonzo? (amalgamation of gonzo and bozo and perhaps > buffoon and more!) If so,