I had a similar issue back in 2009 not too long after I started running. I
was unable to nose breath easily also. In my case, I had both a deviated
septum and a bony tumor in my sinus. Once those were taken care of at the
end of 2009, I could nose breath easily. A crimped tube can never
Lum Gim Fong, your deviated septum may not be material to your breathing
issues, while over breathing may be. Try this as you sit there reading this:
1. Breathe through your nose, mouth closed, including exhale. This is your
baseline.
2. After exhaling fully, pause. Hold your breath until just
Wow!
I have to mouth breathe when I ride at any speed.
I have a deviated septum. Even sitting still at home, there is resistance
breathing through the nose .
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I'm not sure what comment or whom you are responding to; however, I don't
breathe through my mouth unless I'm way into anaerobic level effort, so I
can't speak to that, but yes nose breathing condensation does freeze on my
beard, sometimes to the point of welding moustache to lower beard.
But does the mouth breathing condensation freeze on the beard?
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Oh! That's brilliant, Tim! Yes! Yes! Yes! I'm already thinking of a
shearling version, with wire woven into the top and bottom for shaping.
H.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 1:42:59 PM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
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> I am definitely a blustery bonzo. I breathe very
I am definitely a blustery bonzo. I breathe very heavily when fat biking,
and Iowa winter days are either super cold (<10 F) or cold and moist (10-30
F).
I use safety glasses or snow/ski goggles, so my eyes are fine. But I've
had a hard time finding a mask solution that works in very cold
Some of us have sensitive sinuses. Mine will ache for hours after breathing
in cold air for as short a time as 1/2 hour. Having a balaclava with a
covered mouth section is essential for me to ride in winter.
Anton
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On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 4:16:16 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick
Hmmm, since the piece that is to cover your nose has to have some body
to it to withstand collapsing in the wind, why not try the universal
fixall, duct tape? Sure, make a little flap to cover your nose and sew it
on your existing mask. Make it double thick, smooth on both sides. At
Deacon - you know my preference for fleece, and I would never try to
convert you! But I will tell you that I have had good luck with a number of
Seirus products. They seem to understand us nose open to the air people.
Even their multi-layer balaclava lets me lift the lower panel to vent. Take
a
I'm picky. I want unfiltered, unwarmed air. That's what my sinuses are for.
Grin. Plus, blech filter smell vs. crisp mountain air? Nah.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 1:42:34 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
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> What about the balaclavas that have that breather piece built
Thanks. Very nice. I'll have to put these on my "keep in mind" list.
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> On Dec 4, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Looking at ultra distance riding in extreme temps event photos no one has a
> viable long term wearable winter mask. The "beak
What about the balaclavas that have that breather piece built into them
over the mouth?
Maybe a Canadian rando group or Canadian commuter page?
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Looking at ultra distance riding in extreme temps event photos no one has a
viable long term wearable winter mask. The "beak extender idea Zed pointed
to is the best one I've seen so far. It looks like most riders keep their
face clear unless they have no other option, which is my experience as
Thanks Jon. Have wool Buff, no work at 10˚ to minus 20˚F, which is a whole
different level of cold vs warmer than 10˚F (where I don't need more than
my beard. Grin.).
Lum Gim Fong, any randonneur groups are in the lowlands rather than the
highlands, so they generally don't ride on "those"
Patrick,
You can also try a local to you randonneur website page. They are mega milers
in all weather. They probably have a forum of their own and can tell you what
works for them on up to 600k rides in the Colorado wilds in winter.
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The key to using a buff is pull it down when going slow and breathing hard
(e.g. uphills). that keeps it dryer of course. If it's super cold
(teens), it will freeze dry to a certain extent too.
the beauty of the buff is that you can always rotate it if one spot becomes
too damp to breathe
Thanks, Jon. Yeah, the problems I have with Buff buffs is they don't block
wind and they get very damp and then freeze and then I have to choose
between breathing and it now being an effective wind block fabric ice
barrier. Grin.
Hey lum gim fong, I'm not smart enough to A) realize that cold
Do you find your derailers dont work as well in such cold?
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I am a fan of buff on my neck and face. Put it around your neck, and pull up
in the back of your head.
Pull it up over your mouth and nose on downhill, and pull it down when going
slow and breathing hard.
They even have a wool one, which is larger than the standard thinner fabric.
I would use Florida ;) That would solve the problems.
I am definitely not a cold weather type of person.
Too much work to keep warm.
But you do have those spectacular views to admire in Colorado!
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You may be on to something there, Zed. Hmmm. I wonder how easily I could
had a loose twill flap over a larger nose opening. Interesting concept!
Thanks.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 10:23:08 AM UTC-7, Zed Martinez wrote:
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> Not quite to all your needs sadly (it's
Not quite to all your needs sadly (it's primary component is neoprene), but
the snowmobiling 'Fog eVader' mask and some big old goggles are the only
thing I found which work on my deep winter commutes. My route is a rail
trail though, so, it's mostly 6 miles of head-wind I'm grunting against.
Photo of test face mask here:
http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/question-for-fellow-blustery-bonzos
With abandon,
Patrick
On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 9:33:28 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
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> Are you a blustery bonzo? (amalgamation of gonzo and bozo and perhaps
> buffoon and more!) If so,
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