Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-08-12 Thread Dan Vee
Hey Wow I’m using a Phil fixed/fixed track hub and didn’t even think of that until you said it! Totally forgot that that happens when you fully remove the bolts! -Dan New jers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-08-11 Thread Benjamin L. Kelley
Good to know. I've only used Surly and crappier track hubs(from 2nd hand bikes so not my choice to start with), and all of them have the protruding shelf. Maybe I'll add having the rear wheel of my QB rebuilt with a Phil Wood hub to the projects list. It'll definitely make fender season easier.

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-08-11 Thread J L
Ben, As far as I know all phil wood bolt on hubs allow this. Any hub brand where the bolt provides the “shelf” that the dropout rests on will work the same. With the bolts removed all the way the hub is only as wide and the hub flange and it can drop out. Not CS but also a fan of this phil

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-08-11 Thread Benjamin L. Kelley
Is this feature dependent on the model or do all Phil track hubs do this? On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:16 AM Clayton Scott wrote: > Phil wood hubs are your friend if you use febders with horizontal > dropouts. You can remove the bolt all the way and the wheel just drops out. > > Clayton Scott >

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-08-11 Thread Clayton Scott
Phil wood hubs are your friend if you use febders with horizontal dropouts. You can remove the bolt all the way and the wheel just drops out. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-08-11 Thread Dan Vee
This is good Information. Thanks. I will be getting a custom 650b fixed gear soon and have been contemplating fenders... but between the rear wheel flipping for gear Changes and the general style of riding I do, I feel like the simplicity of the bike kinda gets lost somewhere. I think I’ll

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-08-09 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
After fiddling for quite a while I've learned the following from this experiment: - metal fenders are a craftsman install. Poorly installed, they are nuts; well installed and... - well installed metal fenders ride beautifully and quiet and solid on asphalt and dirt roads and smoother trails. -

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-13 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
H. I need to slide the "sliding bracket" (like this one, but a Wald the shop used: https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/fenders/honjo-sliding-bracket/) to increase clearance at the seat stay bridge. Anything I need to know? I plan on using a flat head screwdriver to loosen the

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-12 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
"Parallel to the face of the dropout" -- Yes! A much clearly way to put it. Thank you, Anton! With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 5:05:00 PM UTC-6, somervillebikes wrote: > > Deacon, > > When you say 'try bowing out', I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean > bending the stay so

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-12 Thread somervillebikes
Deacon, When you say 'try bowing out', I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean bending the stay so that it is parallel to the face of the dropout? This is essential for proper stay attachment, it reduces all sorts of stress along the stay and at the fender. I did a four-part blog series on

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-11 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thank you, Steve. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 8:04:14 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Fender failure from stress. > On 7/11/20 9:33 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: > > Understood, Steve. Thank you for the reminder. I'd presumed I might need > to

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
Fender failure from stress. On 7/11/20 9:33 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: Understood, Steve. Thank you for the reminder. I'd presumed I might need to also adjust the stays. When you say "deadly wrong way," are you talking fender failure, or something else? With abandon,

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-11 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Understood, Steve. Thank you for the reminder. I'd presumed I might need to also adjust the stays. When you say "deadly wrong way," are you talking fender failure, or something else? With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 4:46:28 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Just be

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
Just be careful of one thing.  DO NOT attempt to adjust fender line by pulling on the fender struts. Yes, that's how you do it with plastic fenders.  Doing it with aluminum fenders is the kiss of death. You adjust the fender line (i.e., the arc of the fender and how its curve matches up

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-11 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks, Steve. I pilfered the front strut from something I saw on Jan's site. Used a theology book (they are all beefy) to bend it uniformly. Grin. I think Ye Ol' Shoppe left the rear fender out as far as the struts allow, also, it's in low gear, so wheel forward, which exaggerates the look vs.

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-11 Thread Steve Palincsar
I like what you've done with the front extra support strut.  I kind of wonder about the rear fender line -- that's a lot of space behind the wheel -- but you may need that to be able to remove the wheel, I don't know.  But those fenders sure do look nice on that silver QB.  Looking at the

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 7/8/20 3:31 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: H. My wife just picked up my now fendered Quickbeam. It looks great, except they installed the front fender so it sticks out in the front about 5" too far forward. How do you know it's too far forward?  Where does the 5"

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-08 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Ahhh! The clock is a better way to describe it. You are correct, Jason, the fender goes forward to 1:30, so a bit back from the 2:00 window you describe. It does need the stay on there, especially given the terrain I ride. Yes, I have a flap for the rear I'll be adding (they put the flap on

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-08 Thread J L
Patrick, First off, great to hear that they did a good job. I’m sure others will have suggestions here. Without seeing the bike it is hard to say. My intuition tells me it is in the right place to - A: ward off spray coming off the top of the wheel. There can still be significant material

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-07-08 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
H. My wife just picked up my now fendered Quickbeam. It looks great, except they installed the front fender so it sticks out in the front about 5" too far forward. I have the additional stay to add myself. Will this be adiquate? Or do I need to rotate the fender back, to increase coverage

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-25 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Mat: "A general rule of thumb when doing first time projects is to estimate how long you think that project will take, then multiply it by at least four (I often make facetious comments, but this one is no joke or exaggeration!). Slowing down, not rushing, I am better able to find joy in

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-25 Thread Mat Grewe
For future reference, if you do decide to drill & install your own fenders. Aluminum drilling is super easy. I just use regular drill bits, no need for lubrication, and put a piece of wood underneath to help minimize burrs on the back side. A file can help to clean it up, but isn't strictly

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-25 Thread Mat Grewe
If you still have a rear rack on that bike, consider securing the fender to the rack instead of using stays. When riding off trail, rack legs won't collapse if a stick gets caught in the spokes. Here is a pretty awful picture, but you get the gist (I can borrow a real camera if a better

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-24 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Fenders arrived today and a bike shop (one of two I'd be willing to trust to this, and that's with a lot of hope and prayer involved), said they could squeeze in the fender instal over the next few days, otherwise it'd be a month or more. They understood "fenderline" and "pinch or widen to

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-10 Thread Michael / SF
If you decide to DIY, this video really helped me out with my SimWorks x Honjo install: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WSq1DTvHOI Highly recommend this fella's other videos if you want to watch beautiful rando bikes cruising around the San Francisco Bay Area. Michael SF / CA On Tuesday,

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-10 Thread somervillebikes
Aside from any QB-specific issues, I wrote a generic 4-part series for installing metal fenders: https://somervillebikes.wordpress.com/2020/03/01/how-to-install-metal-fenders-part-i-achieving-a-proper-arc-radius/ Anton velolumino.com On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 6:26:56 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-10 Thread JohnS
Installing fenders is a pain in the butt. My least favorite bike wrenching. I would not recommend it it's not within your comfort zone. Alignment, rubbing, the list goes on JohnS On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 8:44:36 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Don't forget the rat tail file. > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
Don't forget the rat tail file. The drilling is easy.  The measuring to get the holes in the right places, now that takes patience and repetition.  You can't measure it all at once.  You have to mount one point, measure the next, remove, drill, install, mark the next point, remove, drill,

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-09 Thread Clayton Scott
Not sure if it matters, but you would not need a power drill. The aluminum fenders are fairly soft. A hammer and punch or even sharp nail and a hand reamer will be sufficient for the holes. Here the a similar reamer to the one I use:

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-09 Thread Joe Bernard
Hehe, I hear ya Patrick. I technically know HOW to do it, but getting me to the goal is a whole 'nother kettle of monkeys or whatever the phrase is. My Frank Jones has new fenders still safely in the packaging  -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

2020-06-09 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thank you, Jason and Joe. So, above my pay grade. I'll make other arrangements. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to