[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-22 Thread EricP
Five banjos?!? Okay, I'll confess to two. One a guit-jo. And can barely plunk a tune out on one. Now guitars, that's another story. Unfortunately, have never been able to get down to one of anything. Have thought about it. But it just doesn't have the appeal. In those cases where I've

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-22 Thread Beth H
On Jul 18, 10:11 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Even tig welded a complete steel bike for $500-700 is very unlikely. ** Our shop (Citybikes) sells a Tig'd Cr-mo KHS Urban Xpress -- with 700c wheels, 700 x 32 tires, PLENTY of room for fenders and even -- on a special version

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-22 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: On Jul 18, 10:11 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Even tig welded a complete steel bike for $500-700 is very unlikely. ** Our shop (Citybikes) sells a Tig'd Cr-mo KHS Urban Xpress -- with 700c wheels,

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-21 Thread Way Rebb
Just curious of how others treat their rivendells? Are they really used to their full potential? Or locked away shameless in the garage because of their face value? -Manny My Hillborne certainly isn't a beater. A beater implies I have a special occasion bike around. Fortunately since the

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-21 Thread i.e.
I only like to own one of something (banjo, lamp, computer, bike, vacuum etc) but that one is usually pretty good. -Ray Me too, but I've gotta confess to owning five banjos! Isaac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-20 Thread Earl Grey
Or like my wife, you could get a new, lugged steel, 6 speed Raleigh with metal headbadge, fenders, basket, kickstand, chainguard and skirtguard, and even a passenger seat w/foot-pegs in lieu of a rear rack for $120 (if you live in Thailand). Pics:

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-20 Thread nathan spindel
Your talk of locks and paint chips reminds me that I'd really like to see Rivendell sell a [tweed] Sackville u-lock cozy. Mmmm. Or maybe I should just figure out how to acquire a couple of these: http://flic.kr/p/79a1qC. -nathan On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:49 AM, jamison brosseau

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-19 Thread RoadieRyan
The HD is a good example. If I had not Riv'd out my Handsome Devil I think I could have come in for a sub $1000 price but Dammit between this group and CycloFiend (Damn You Jim!) I wanted a cool steel bike ;-) On Jul 18, 11:32 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: what about the Handsome

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-19 Thread RoadieRyan
Or you could get one of these Sub $500 beauties, not lugged of course but cromo, I would, however, be suspicious of the assembly quality http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/mercier/galaxy.htm On Jul 19, 10:02 pm, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: The HD is a good example.  If I had not

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread RoadieRyan
2 cents on the Poly from VO -a build kit for $600 gets frame fork headset seat post wheels and brakes which is a pretty bangin' deal considering getting all that stuff separately is more like $750. Granted after you do all the outfitting you can still make it a spendy bike but you could also do it

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread Johnny Alien
I'd love to see another collaboration between Rivendell and either QBP (Surly/Salsa) or Merry Sales (Soma). Similar to the Bleriot arrangement they had. Let Grant design and spec it, let them sell it. TIG welded powder coated would be awesome for this application. Let the distributor worry

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread jamison brosseau
i agree with charlie. they are just bikes. i ride both of mine and soon to be a third daily in NYC. they get locked outside for hours (two u locks and a cable). all that locking nicks up the paint pretty bad, but they still ride great, and in my opinion look better with age and use. last year

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread Anne Paulson
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Just have that Rivendell touch in the design and components.  Something similar to the idea of the LHT THe thing is...there already is a Surly and they do that niche well. It's amazing how Surly has taken over the

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread cyclotourist
But Surly bikes sell for around $1K. $1K /= a beater. I'd like to see a $500-700 Riv designed, QBP/Merry/JB sold bike. On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 5:29 AM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.netwrote: I'd love to see another collaboration between Rivendell and either QBP (Surly/Salsa) or Merry

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread Johnny Alien
Even tig welded a complete steel bike for $500-700 is very unlikely. I think Jamis has a steel bike for around $600 but that is the only one I could think of. On Jul 18, 12:24 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: But Surly bikes sell for around $1K.  $1K /= a beater.  I'd like to see a

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread Anne Paulson
There are tons of sub-$700 steel bikes for sale. These, for example: http://campusbikeshop.com/product/khs-brentwood-810.htm http://campusbikeshop.com/product/schwinn-sierra-seven-805.htm On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Even tig welded a complete

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread Philip Williamson
When I get something new and nice, I've recently started trying to envision it as worn out, used up and empty. That way, right away, I'm getting comfortable with the inevitable, and also encouraging myself to Really Use It. I'm trying to look at the wear as signs of accomplishment. Pride-in-use,

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread Garth
Gee I must be getting old . My idea of a beater bike was always a Schwinn Varsity or Sears Bike the ones from the 70's that weighed like 45 pounds. The problem is these days even those are sought after . so yeah the idea of a beater bike is gone. The bottom line is

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread Johnny Alien
Those are both hi-tensile very low quality steel. I can't imagine Rivendell doing anything like that even for a budget bike. The Rivendell name still needs to go on it. Neither is anywhere near what Surly or VO has. Even the lower level Bridgestones back in the day were CrMo. I was looking for

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread andrew hill
what about the Handsome Devil? that could prob be built up for sub-$1K pretty easily. On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: Those are both hi-tensile very low quality steel. I can't imagine Rivendell doing anything like that even for a budget bike. The Rivendell name still needs

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread eflayer
very mass produced with good parts = + $1000 http://www.fujibikes.com/LifeStyle/ClassicSeries/Touring.aspx On Jul 18, 11:32 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote: what about the Handsome Devil?  that could prob be built up for sub-$1K pretty easily. On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Johnny

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread SFF
I thought most folks on this list and most bike friendly people already had a beater bike - ? I remember seeing owners lists of 6 to 8 bikes per that included city, touring and beater type bikes. Do you need 2 beater bikes in your stable now? Don't confuse inexpenisive bike with beater bike. To

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread Johnny Alien
That Trek is very nice and VERY similarly spec'd and priced to the Surly LHT. I think once you break the $1000 barrier people no longer want to treat it as a beater. On Jul 18, 3:44 pm, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: very mass produced with good parts = + $1000

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread Ken Mattina
I think that 80's mtb's make the best beaters http://www.flickr.com/photos/16266...@n00/4298178773/ http://picasaweb.google.com/ken.mattina/BianchiSuperGrizzly#5339609849183018498 Ken On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.netwrote: That Trek is very nice and VERY

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread TJ Ramb
I can't imagine any Rivendell being a true beater, even a heavily used quality bike is just a spray job away from redemption. These have some style - on ebay in australia for $299 ok not lugged but look nice. http://www.progearbikes.com.au/product.php?id=91 For a beater bike there are so many

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread charlie
Problem solved ...you want a bike that won't be stolen and one that is relatively carefree to ride for errands around town etcit sounds like you are talking about a folding bicycle that is tig welded that rides similar to a large wheel bicycle. We have that in several brands but a

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread manueljohnacosta
a stop to te shop from sf would easily take at least 3 hours. 1 hour to get on bart. 1 hour at the shop. 1 hour to bart back On Jul 18, 1:27 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: That Trek is very nice and VERY similarly spec'd and priced to the Surly LHT. I think once you break the

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-18 Thread doug peterson
I'm with Charlie on this one. I love my Atlantis because I can use it for anything. The lugs detailing are a nice bonus but I'm not going to baby it or worry about a few scratches. Every once in a while I get out the model paint to touch up some major paint damage (like adding more fork

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-17 Thread eflayer
From a list member I recently purchased an SS coupled Rambouillet. The bike was used quite a bit and came to me with numerous paint chips. But it still looks damn good in its green and cream paint. I took on its first trip of 500 miles a few weeks ago. Packed in the case, unpacked it and indeed

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-17 Thread Justin August
I thought Grant's little musings were nice -and reassuring given my recent Bleriot purchase - but I wonder if he's being obtuse and purposefully ignoring the Velo-Orange Polyvalent or finds something seriously wrong with it. On Jul 17, 12:08 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-17 Thread Johnny Alien
My guess is that with tires, stem, handlebars, tires, etc, etc that the VO Poly gets up to $1000 pretty easy which is the cost of the Surly he mentions. On Jul 17, 1:12 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: I thought Grant's little musings were nice -and reassuring given my recent

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Why impute or wonder about base motives? I am a writer; I know that one often writes from the hip and only after hitting send (so to speak) remembers that there is also this or that that one ought to have mentioned. I expect Grant didn't spend hours analyzing his statement-to-be. and there is no

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-17 Thread mr.trout
i have a hillborne that is my everyday bike. i have it pitlocked and the vulnerable bolts are stuffed with foil to keep it from being stripped. the paint chips pretty easily on this frame, i have a few city flag stickers covering the big ones. rain or shine, snow slop, locked up outside of bars,

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-17 Thread EricP
Well, my Rivendell is not a beater. Yes, I ride it around and even commute on it when I feel like. However, it's not the bike I take out on the icy, salty roads of winter. Others do. In that case, the bike of choice (for this coming winter) will be a Surly. Earlier this week, received a snide

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Despite my published reservations about the SH, I'd unhesitatingly choose it as a beater commuter -- I prefer to call such bikes no worries, mate bikes -- since despite not being the equal of any of my 3 custom Rivs it is still a very nice bike compared to most others I've owned. (Tho' I bet my

[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?

2010-07-17 Thread charlie
Holy cow they are just bicycles ! I don't think a cheaper bicycle would be any less likely to be stolen or damaged by use. Lets face it, you can't take this stuff with you when you die so enjoy it now. Quality things are nice to own and use and.if you can afford something expensive then use