Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

I'll definitely buy a Silver 3 road crank. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 7:10:49 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > A couple of interesting(?) Roaduno tidbits in yesterday’s blog. Sounds > like a distinct possibility that the complete will come with the new

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

A couple of interesting(?) Roaduno tidbits in yesterday’s blog. Sounds like a distinct possibility that the complete will come with the new Silver 3 crank. And the bit about the head badge goof has me planning to paint the “window”, should I be lucky enough to get one. Not going to happen if I am

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Per today’s e mail update - Roaduno completes due in May, not April. Not sure if that includes the non completes.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 7, 2024, at 1:03 PM, Berkeleyan wrote:" I have a threaded through-axle with big heavy 17mm nuts, front and back. And I carry a Park bottle opener with 17mm

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

" I have a threaded through-axle with big heavy 17mm nuts, front and back. And I carry a Park bottle opener with 17mm socket on the end to remove the wheels." Er, make that 15mm... I was thinking of motorcycle parts at the same time. - Andrew -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Patrick asks, "Andrew: Do you use a QR axle on your flip flop hub? I switched from 17 and 19 cogs on either side of my Phil to a 17/19 Dingle so that with the QR axle it's very, very easy and quick to change cogs." I have a threaded through-axle with big heavy 17mm nuts, front and back. And I

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

" I like the idea of a front shifted 2x1 or 3x1 setup. If planning on such a setup I'd probably just get a Homer vs the Roaduno because I always end up wanting fenders on a bike like this and vertical dropouts make fenders so much easier. But I do see that the Roaduno with its 120mm rear

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

But, more to the point, this discussion has clarified why someone might choose a 2X1 or 3X1. On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 9:53 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > All speculative, but speculation precedes action. Probably not my action, > but who knows where this might lead? > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 8:56 AM

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

All speculative, but speculation precedes action. Probably not my action, but who knows where this might lead? On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 8:56 AM Bill Lindsay wrote: > " That leaves the question how to arrange a 2-speed, 18-26 t cogset" So > when I asked if this 1x2 bicycle existed only in your

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

just as an aside to your aside, I recently did some hobbyist lathe work for our friend Joe Bunik, who intends to build a two-speed single-speed mountain bike. He had me modify a vintage crankset to yield a single 52-tooth aluminum chainring that can bolt to the Problem Solvers system of

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

" That leaves the question how to arrange a 2-speed, 18-26 t cogset" So when I asked if this 1x2 bicycle existed only in your imagination, it sounds like the answer is "Yes" " 3 speed freewheels are still available [inserts Amazon link]" Note that those are definitely of the ultra-cheap and

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 8:41 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > Good point about very large gear gaps, and true that my riding does not > generally involve very steep and very long climbs and that I generally > prefer to torque than to spin. > > We all know that front derailleurs are capable of shifting

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Good point about very large gear gaps, and true that my riding does not generally involve very steep and very long climbs and that I generally prefer to torque than to spin. We all know that front derailleurs are capable of shifting 12-16 tooth gaps, my DA 7402 (?) fd shifts between the 44 and 28

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Patrick Moore claims to have "always" wondered: "I've always wondered what advantages a 2X1 has over a 1X2 if you are going to use derailleurs" Can you be more specific about this 1x2 with a rear derailleur that you are comparing? Is this a bike you have? Have had earlier? Saw in person?

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Yes While I don't believe the Surly Ultra New hubs lack of a quoted weight limit means they are unlimited, I do believe it implies that any reasonable weights are not a problem. Whereas the Phil ones have a limit specified. If a company tells me there is a weight limit, I'm inclined to agree/obey

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

I love all of this experimentation, and the Rev folks sure do have a lot of experience. For me, I am in the fixed gear or 1x8 or so camp. Fixed gear so pure and direct and connected. 1x8 more flexible, fewer problems on the hills, but not nearly as much easier as you would think considering

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

A recent Riv newsletter compared the 3x1 to an IGH, saying the 3x1 setup is similar but more mechanically transparent. If you could setup a rear shifted 1x2 or 1x3 with 8-10t jumps between cogs that might be an interesting comparison. (The largest jump on a megarange freewheel is in this

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

I've always wondered what advantages a 2X1 has over a 1X2 if you are going to use derailleurs -- the 2X1 requires a FD and something like a RD while the 1X2 requires only the rear one -- but for ss sans derailleur some people say that front shifting is easier than rear shifting. Not for me,

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Bill said >> I think the 2x1 or 3x1 concept around the Roaduno is brilliant. That concept is alien to me -- if I understood right, we're talking about single-cog-in-back, front-derailleur shifting. I don't know what problem that would solve. I "get" the single-speed thing, I think. I've been

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Do you interpret the absence of a weight rating on the Surly Ultra New to mean it's unlimited, and therefore stronger/more reliable than the Phil? Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 8:18:47 AM UTC-8 Benjamin Kelley wrote: > One big difference(at least for me) other

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

One big difference(at least for me) other than the price between the Phil and the Surly Ultra New Hubs, is the loaded bike+rider weight rating. Phil says 280lb/127kg for their Classic. Surly unspecified weight on all their hubs. I personally prefer the fixing bolt to the QR. Less stuff for people

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

If the Roaduno track ends are horizontal yes, that's a defect, IMO. It has been a long time since I bothered with a rear brake on a fixed geared bike, but just perhaps, with just 2 teeth difference, you could set up your rear pads to work with the wheel in both positions despite no angled axle

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Hah, even better: SA AM hub (3 speed freewheel, 86.54%, direct, 115.55 %; and ASC (3 speed fixed), direct, 90%, 75%. I agree that 3 speeds is a kind of universal norm. On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 8:39 AM Will Boericke wrote: > Sturmey Archer AW is as close to single speed as I get - the perfect >

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Patrick, Roaduno drops are rear facing but horizontal vs. the Quickbeam’s angled ones. I presume that means you could not adjust chain tension without also needing to adjust brake pads? That ain’t happening.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 5, 2024, at 9:54 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:Two teeth will

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Sturmey Archer AW is as close to single speed as I get - the perfect number of speeds for a tootling bike. Will On Monday, February 5, 2024 at 10:01:48 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: > Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly offers > their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Per their site (https://surlybikes.com/parts/ultra_new_hubs) Surly offers their "Ultra New Hub" in 135 mm OL in both rim brake and disc rotor models, and in 120 mm and 130 mm in a rim brake model. I expect that this hub is very like their earlier one -- I bought a couple, the first 18 years ago

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Two teeth will require adjusting the axle-bb length. The Quickbeam and Roaduno have long track ends to hold the axle (or will the Roaduno have long forward-facing horizontals?). With the chain adjusted for the bigger cog you might be able to ride, just, with the chain on the smaller cog, using a

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Andrew, how does the dos freewheel work? Is the 2 tooth difference not enough to worry about chain tension?Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 1:09 PM, Berkeleyan wrote:The paint and fancier lugs on the RoadUno are beautiful, glad to see this coming. Still, I love my 66cm QuickBeam. I stick

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Rmrose...+1 for the PX10...mine is ss only. Long history of almost 50 years with these bikes...current one is my 3rd...and yes I still love riding Itnew roaduno IS intriguing though. And in winnipeg...windy and flat. On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 1:49:31 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Max, PM’ed you. RichSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 4, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Max S wrote:So, I've got the ol' flip-flop hub, I've got a DOS freewheel and a Dingle cog, and I even hand the ENO double-ring crank (that I then passed on to Bill). In all this time riding SS & fixed, I've never actually stopped

[RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Max S asked: "I'm curious, do people with 1x2 or 2x2 "SS" or fixed-gear setups actually stop, unbolt / release the wheel, move the chain, re-tighten, and then continue up the hill?" Yes, I do. I live up a 500ft climb in the East Bay Hills and all my multi-single-speeds have an uphill gear

[RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

So, I've got the ol' flip-flop hub, I've got a DOS freewheel and a Dingle cog, and I even hand the ENO double-ring crank (that I then passed on to Bill). In all this time riding SS & fixed, I've never actually stopped mid-ride to change the gearing. I guess my area isn't all that hilly, so

[RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

The paint and fancier lugs on the RoadUno are beautiful, glad to see this coming. Still, I love my 66cm QuickBeam. I stick with a single ring up front and a Dos ENO 17-19 freewheel on the rear, with a 16 fixed cog on the other side. It gets me anywhere in Berkeley except up the steepest hills,

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Dare I…come in here with the Squid…?On Feb 2, 2024, at 15:01, DavidP wrote:Hi Edwin, A few more I'm aware of:Crust Florida Man - 130mm spacing, track ends, removable canti-posts, 27.5x2.4 listed max so 55mm tires with a fender should be fineWabi Thunder - 120mm spacing, track ends, 700x44

[RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

Hi Edwin, A few more I'm aware of: Crust Florida Man - 130mm spacing, track ends, removable canti-posts, 27.5x2.4 listed max so 55mm tires with a fender should be fine Wabi Thunder - 120mm spacing, track ends, 700x44 (conservative?) max Handsome Devil - 132.5mm spacing, semi-horizonal

[RBW] Re: Roaduno and the state of single speed bikes

"BMC Monstercross. 700c wheels and cantilever posts. But that has 135mm rear spacing, so not exactly built for single speed." Not true. All BMC Monstercrosses that have ever been released have had 130mm spacing. Only the latest revision, which has not been delivered yet, has 132.5mm spacing,

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Dang. I thought / hoped it would cost a bit less than those other frames. Certainly cost less to manufacture than a Platypus? More than a Clem but…If offered as a complete the build kit should be less than either the Clem or Platy. On second thought the Platy kit is just $525.00 so..?I know, just

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

If the colour choices are compelling, it may well be my first ever brand new bike.Although I’m also kinda hoping someone else gets one in my size and has buyers remorse a few months later!Which strangely seems to happen around here quite frequently.It sounds like a pretty great and practical bike

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

The Crust Single Speed Lightning Bolt is also less than half the price of a Roaduno. Get one of each! Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 6:51:21 PM UTC-8 velomann wrote: > When the initial info about the Roaduno was coming out, I was pretty > stoked about it. I was

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

When the initial info about the Roaduno was coming out, I was pretty stoked about it. I was anticipating a true, clean, Rivendell lugged single speed with 120 rear spacing and the ability to take wide-ish 700c tires courtesy of cantilever mounts. The addition of the derailleur hanger was the

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

Anyone test ride and can tell whether they will be a long top tube model (e.g., Atlantis, Clem), or a shorter top tube model (Hillborne, Homer)? The front-center looks super long in the photos which makes me think a long top-tube, upright bars only build - which I'd prefer! On Monday,

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

For those of you planning, plotting, conspiring to do a build of your own, one thing that is not crystal clear is that you'll need is a pair of long reach caliper brakes. I've got two sets that I would like to sell. One is the very modest Tektro 365. It's got the identical forgings and

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

I heard from Riv HQ that they will come as frames ($1750 like other lugged frames) and completes (price and build list not released yet). Looking forward to seeing the colors and build list! Edwin On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 8:06:52 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > Well, the

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Well, the indication was a small adjustment but still long. I am guessing they will be shortened less than the length of the dropout slot. As a Clem & Gus owner the long stays are the main attraction of this particular single speed. That and it being fully lugged. I cannot answer the question of

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

I too saw that they are planning to shorten the chainstays on the production Roaduno. At what point are the stays too long and how does too long affect ride quality? Doug On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 12:10:07 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote: > On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 9:32:33 AM UTC-7

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 9:32:33 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Roaduno, I read in one of the earlier updates that the new bike is very similar to a Homer geometrically. It's hard to keep up with changes, and I think we just need to wait until the end to know for sure

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

I may be first in line for this one as my First Rivendell. I can ride forever with 75", 65" and 45" gears. On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 10:32:33 AM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote: > Speaking of Roaduno, I read in one of the earlier updates that the new > bike is very similar to a Homer

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

I think it was going to come as a complete, right? I want to hear from this group how they would build a reasonably priced, reasonable quality complete. And how much will it cost? Mine would be (mostly pulling from Riv's website): Brake Levers: Shimano Brakes: Shimano DXR Wheels: basic

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

"If it's got caliper brakes like a Hilsen, that will send some people into a tizzy." I've been told to expect cantilever posts and clearance for 700 x 50. Mike M On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 3:39:43 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: > If it's got caliper brakes like a Hilsen, that will send

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

Jason, I think the swoop proto Charlie with cantis is as close to a TIG Sam as well get Max On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 9:48:41 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote: > Between this and the production spec of the Charlie, it's clear that the > new models are simply splitting hairs between existing

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

Between this and the production spec of the Charlie, it's clear that the new models are simply splitting hairs between existing models - no shame in it, I love to see the additional resolution within the world of Rivendells - but splitting hairs nonetheless! The Charlie has become a

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

It'll be like a Hilsen but singlespeed but you can mount a derailleur like a Hilsen. On Saturday, August 26, 2023 at 3:39:43 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: > If it's got caliper brakes like a Hilsen, that will send some people into > a tizzy. The suspected derailleur hanger sent a different

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

If it's got caliper brakes like a Hilsen, that will send some people into a tizzy. The suspected derailleur hanger sent a different set of people into a tizzy. If it's got long chainstays and a sloping TT, then that's two more tizzy-groups. The tizzy venn-diagram will be interesting to map

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

>From Grants blahg: "RoadUnos are scheduled for early 2024, but we're getting prototypes in mid to late September. They're basically A. Homer Hilsen frames except for the graphics and dropouts. Rear wheel spacing is 120mm." On Monday, August 7, 2023 at 12:19:26 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote: > I would

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

I would wager Riv sells a few Roadunos based on that cool dropout. I'll also drink to that! Best, Rich in ATL On Sunday, August 6, 2023 at 1:26:46 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: > That has got to be one of the coolest dropouts I've ever seen. Even if I > didn't use the Der hanger, that thing

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

That has got to be one of the coolest dropouts I've ever seen. Even if I didn't use the Der hanger, that thing is a beaut! The gap between that upper hook and the fender boss looks like a beer bottle opener to me! I'll drink to that! Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Friday, August 4, 2023 at

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

I see -- in a recent interview with PathLessPedaled he mentioned that the bike he's riding most often is a 3x1 -- I'm now wondering if he's testing out the new Roaduno based on what you've described. On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:15:07 AM UTC-5 velomann wrote: > Grant wants folks to be able to

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

I will be interested to see: 1. What the frameset price will be. 2. What the price will be for a complete. 3. What the complete will look like. My build would probably be tending toward minimalist (I fantasize about it but keep adding stuff to my bikes like dynamo lighting, racks, fenders and

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

All this talk of dropouts, Grant mentioned last week on a Path Less Pedaled YouTube video (around the 55min mark) that Roaduno will have 'rear facing dropouts of our own design'. On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 4:35:58 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote: > Bill is right (as usual), the Public V1 is fun to

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

A simple new bike with a mechanically attentive build and excellent tires. That's a good recipe. It's like a chef that can throw together a sensational omelet with four ingredients. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Tuesday, July 18, 2023 at 1:35:58 PM UTC-7 Edwin W wrote: > Bill is right

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Bill is right (as usual), the Public V1 is fun to ride. My brother and his wife got them. I made a huge improvement (to me!) in putting paselas on and switching the 18t rear cog to a 16. I love the simplicity of a single speed and hope to get a roaduno and "fix" it up, Edwin On Monday, July

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Another interesting SS bike:The new rando frameset from Velo Orange that is available now https://velo-orange.com/products/rando-frameset It has modular dropouts so you can run it geared or SS. Room for 38s w/o fenders, 32s w/ fenders. Road/rando geometry and the paint looks great! Tommy in NC

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

There is no question there will be a Roaduno Complete in early 2024 that you will be able to purchase, and that bike will be both simple and a single speed. Another bike that meets both those criteria (simple and singlespeed) is the Public V1.

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

RoadUNO will start as a simple singlespeed bike. The options to add gears are nice but not necessary, pick your ratio and ride! On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 10:35:02 AM UTC-7 Dick Combs wrote: > I just want a simple, single speed bike > > On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 1:19:54 PM UTC-4 iamkeith

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

I just want a simple, single speed bike On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 1:19:54 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote: > Changing subject slightly - there have been some comments worrying that > this will simply be a homer and the logical "why bother" question implied, > given that it's no longer a true

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Changing subject slightly - there have been some comments worrying that this will simply be a homer and the logical "why bother" question implied, given that it's no longer a true single speed. I have no inside knowledge, but suspect it will be different. Specifically, I'd supect it to have

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Those track ends are elegant...if I was in acquiring rather than divesting mode , that Frank Jones would be my dream SS. As it stands , I just put up with the look of my ancient PX-10 with the front-facing Simplex drop outs with the derailleur hanger. But I'm curious to see how the Roaduno

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Those are indeed beautiful track ends; the prettiest I've seen. I do think however that long horizontals are more practical in that wheel removal is at least a bit easier and -- if you use them -- fender fitting is a bit easier. But yes, for pretty those win the prize. And agree that verticals are

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

The Frank Jones Srbeautiful. Can't agree enough. https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/richs-frank-jones-sr On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 11:38:52 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: > Eric Daume's list begs some lively discussion, but it does illustrate a > larger point that I think is gradually

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Eric Daume's list begs some lively discussion, but it does illustrate a larger point that I think is gradually becoming a universally held opinion, even though some people don't realize it, and that is the following: The only thing front facing horizontal dropouts are good for is single

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Grief hedging; I understand. Have to anticipate the peanut gallery. Personally I'd prefer a bolt on hanger, and if I bought a Roaduno I might well Dremel off the integrated hanger. But I can see the usefulness. On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 11:20 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > ... I think if Grant used

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

No they don't, not if you install the wheel properly! I've put thousands and thousands of miles on fixed gear and ss drivetrains with horizontals, and for that matter with track ends without chain tensioners, and never had slippage even during 7-mile standing climbs (I'd sit every half mile or so

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 9:48:42 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote: - adjusting the wheel position doesn't affect the rim brake position nearly as much (nice for manual gear changes). - QR can hold the axle *better* because of the angle of the dropout--the chain isn't just pulling the wheel

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

In my ~25 years of single speed and fixed gear experience, forward facing dropouts are better in every respect than track ends: - wheel removal is much easier (and moreso with fenders, and moreso again if you're running a derailer for some reason) - adjusting the wheel position doesn't affect the

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

I run 8 of 10 on a Grand Bois 120mm cassette hub. My typical setup is to start with a 12-30 Ultegra 10 speed cassette. The largest 3 cogs are on a carrier (24-27-30) and I keep all of those. The other 7 cogs are all loose and they are 12-13-14-15-17-19-21. I remove the 14 and one spacer. I remove

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

The idea (to my mind) is you buy a singlespeed frame with the possibility built in that it can handle fixed if you ever want to try it. I think if Grant used forward facing dropouts he'd get endless comments about how they're facing the wrong way on that type of frame. He's already getting

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Forward-facing, semi-horizontal dropouts of olde are okay for chill single speed use but agree, not recommended for fixed gear because they tend to slip forward during either hard acceleration or hard deceleration. With track ends, the alignment screws prevent this. That said - I don't think

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

H? I don't know why you say that. On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 9:57 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > If Riv wants to sell singlespeed frames to the singlespeed market it's > going to be with track ends. Most fixie folks wouldn't accept > forward-facing horizontal dropouts. > > On Saturday, July 15, 2023

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

If Riv wants to sell singlespeed frames to the singlespeed market it's going to be with track ends. Most fixie folks wouldn't accept forward-facing horizontal dropouts. On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 7:52:29 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: > I was just flipping through the Tour De France:

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

I was just flipping through the Tour De France: Centennial history and looking at 1920s and early 1930s photos; the bikes seem to have multiple clusters, perhaps just 2 cogs, on each side of the hub. I couldn't find a photo of the Roaduno; can anyone post a link or a picture? Didn't someone say

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Thought of your email right away, Peter! On Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 7:32:43 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote: > A 120mm track-ended (or horizontal dropoutted) frameset with a derailleur > hangar is just a modern update of the traditional 40s-50s British path > racer, a road bike easily

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

A 120mm track-ended (or horizontal dropoutted) frameset with a derailleur hangar is just a modern update of the traditional 40s-50s British path racer, a road bike easily converted for track use. BITD, for a long time after WWII, massed race cycling on public roads was forbidden in the UK. If

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Paging Eric Marth...this is basically what I was suggesting as a freehub option for a 70s steel frameset, avoiding the cold-set to 130mm. Bill, I take it that you had to use narrower spacers than standard, and use friction shifting (or 10-speed indexed with the high and low shifter positions

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

How about I get a SRAM Wireless RD, so we don't need any stinking cable stops, and mask out 3 cogs in software. I just would have to figure out how to cobble a 9 out of 12 onto a 120mm cassette hub. That would be SICK! And it would annoy almost everybody. All the fretters, handwringers,

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

I keep forgetting about the dangling hanger. Such a silly thing to have added IMO, particularly if 120 spaced. Admittedly I don't understand the attraction to the 3-by-1 drivetrain, but regardless, a regular vertical-dropout bike is well suited to that already. It's not a huge visual impact,

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

After Grants explanation I’m not sure the Roaduno is the right bike for me. I’m looking for a simple one gear bike be it a Roaduno, Quickbeam or Simpleone. I posed the question for an update during the PLP broadcast and was somewhat overwhelmed with Grant’s response. Anyway I’m looking for a

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

Hey Brian, you can always track down a Quickbeam (I've seen a couple up for sale recently) or a Simpleone. I had one for a bit and it was a really fun bike with great tire clearance On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 3:23:51 PM UTC-4 bmfo...@gmail.com wrote: > When I first heard about the Roaduno I

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

When I first heard about the Roaduno I was over the moon about it, however my interest has continued to decline as more and more details become available. I love the clean lines single speed setups offer so the addition of the rear hanger and routing for a front derailleur is a major bummer to

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

But Rivendell offers many options for those that want a geared bike. It seems odd that someone would want to overly gear up this single speed. I am agreement that the hanger should not be on there. I am OK with two rings on the front with no derailler. Thats bare bones. On Friday, July 14,

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

"...or use a 120mm rear wheel and have a full on geared bike. I’ve fit 8 cogs with “10-speed” spacing onto a 120mm cassette hub from Grand Bois. A 2x8 RoadUno would be pretty funny. " I can pretty much guarantee you that it will not have any braze-ons for rear shifting, so one would need to

Re: [RBW] Re: Roaduno

"A 2x8 RoadUno would be pretty funny." Roll up to RBW on that so Grant can shake his head, "What is wrong with you, Bubba?"  On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 10:33:43 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: > …or use a 120mm rear wheel and have a full on geared bike. I’ve fit 8 cogs > with “10-speed”

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…or use a 120mm rear wheel and have a full on geared bike. I’ve fit 8 cogs with “10-speed” spacing onto a 120mm cassette hub from Grand Bois. A 2x8 RoadUno would be pretty funny. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 1:27 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > You could singlespeed an existing

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

You could singlespeed an existing frame, but this one is designed so you DON'T need a tensioner for it if you're definitely-fer-sure going to stick with one gear. On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 9:11:05 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote: > My area is way too hilly and I am way too old to entertain a

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

Johnny - no tensioner required for single speed; the dropout allows the rear axle to slide to tension the chain. There is also derailleur hanger to support for tensioner for a 2x1 or 3x1 setup. On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 12:11:05 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote: > My area is way too hilly and I

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

My area is way too hilly and I am way too old to entertain a single speed (or two or three speed) anyway so its not something I am interested in BUT I was still curious. If its designed to use a tensioner then why not just single speed one of their existing bikes? On Friday, July 14, 2023 at

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

Correction - not track dropouts; horizontal facing forward (I think). Mike M On Friday, July 14, 2023 at 7:15:07 AM UTC-7 velomann wrote: > Grant wants folks to be able to run a double crankset and front derailleur > if they want. It's an odd duck for sure; 120mm rear spacing with track >

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

Grant wants folks to be able to run a double crankset and front derailleur if they want. It's an odd duck for sure; 120mm rear spacing with track dropouts but a derailleur hanger. And there might be a braze-on for running a shift cable for a front derailleur if they can't find a good bolt-on

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

Question about thatif it requires a string tensioner then what makes it a singlespeed specific frame? He said it had horizontal dropouts which is what would typically fix the need for a tensioner. On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 11:19:40 PM UTC-4 Jason Fuller wrote: > The PLP interview

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

The PLP interview mentioned the samples coming late this month, and the production frames probably pushed over new years now. I have to say, when Grant said it's essentially a singlespeed Homer, I became suddenly interested. On Friday, 7 July 2023 at 09:44:49 UTC-7 Edwin W wrote: > The

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

The mid-May Blahg did say December in purple and dark orange. Or purple and Sergio green. We will see! Love the idea of it, Edwin On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 5:40:16 PM UTC-5 penne...@gmail.com wrote: > The mid-May Blahg > has em

[RBW] Re: Roaduno

The mid-May Blahg has em slated for December in purple and dark orange. Mack in Alberta On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 4:21:05 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote: > The latest update they published was in February. saying they'd ship put > of

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