[RBW] Re: Sugino crank question

2013-03-04 Thread Michael Hechmer
Interesting, although I would guess that's not how you feel about it. I have never had this happen. My problem has been between the rings and I now see that what I need are the 1.2 mm spacers. I am putting this on a bike I hope to sell, and removing a DaVinci crank, which I like very much.

Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino crank question

2013-03-03 Thread Michael Hechmer
Back from the bike shop, where I purchased a set of 0.6mm shims ( 75 cents a piece!). My past experience has been that this prevents the chain from being sucked down between the middle and inner rings. My favorite mechanic suggested a trick that should help with the gymnastics of holding all

[RBW] Re: Sugino crank question

2013-03-03 Thread Bill Lucas
Michael, I had the chain suck with a number of RD2 cranksets. I found that the index mark on the middle chainring needs to be at 1:00 when the arm is at 12:00. If the index is at 11:00, then shifting pins occasionally grab the chain. Regards, Bill Lucas On Saturday, March 2, 2013 4:14:30

[RBW] Re: Sugino crank question

2013-03-03 Thread dougP
On mine, the chain gets caught between the middle ring chainstay. When this happens, the chain is on the inner ring at the top but the section that's disengaging from middle to inner gets stuck between the stay the middle. Visually, there appears to be more space between the inner middle

[RBW] Re: Sugino crank question

2013-03-02 Thread dougP
Michael: I can't answer your question but it does raise one on my part. I have the Rivendell standard issue triple crank (XD2?) and have often been bothered by chain suck on the middle-to-granny shift. Careful, well planned shifts work fine. It's the panicky, sloppy ones where I don't ease

Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino crank question

2013-03-02 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Hah! Is chainsuck a design problem then? I've suffered it in spades on the Fargo with its XD2 and, after the last episode where it jammed so hard it permanently twisted the chain and bent the outer ring 30*, I had one of those catch-chain devices installed. I've not had this problem, to this

[RBW] Re: Sugino crank question

2013-03-02 Thread Mike Schiller
Never ever happened to me on 4 different bikes. I always use the shortest bottom bracket that will clear the chain stays and carefully set up the low limit on the front derailleur. There is a plastic device that you can attach to your seat tube that keeps the chain from dropping off too. I

[RBW] Re: Sugino crank question

2013-03-02 Thread Michael Hechmer
Mike, you're thinking of chain drop, which can indeed be stopped with careful setup and a chain catcher. This problem is chain suck. The chain falls between the middle and small ring. I first discovered this problem on a hi speed roundabout! Not good, not good. Shims come in 1 2 mm