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2010-10-31 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Wide, fat, 622 slick on the rear, skinny, little 406 tire in front, looong fork with huge rake On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Patrick, who's to say you have to get both tires the same? Get one of each! While I thought I was kidding . come to

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2010-10-31 Thread Frederick, Steve
Well that's...not cool! Did he say why he went to the other store? Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com on behalf of Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Sent: Fri 10/29/2010 7:24 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site My first bike shop

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2010-10-30 Thread charlie
I have the 700x40's (38 actual) and run them between 65 and 80 psi but I weigh 265. I think they roll really nice and way better than my Marathon 700x47's but those tires would probably last 12,000 miles, maybe more. All that rubber and 41mm wideness inspires confidence and a certain carefree

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2010-10-30 Thread Earl Grey
All I ordered this week was some Silver shifters, but I talked a crabon-Dura-Ace-Felt-riding friend into ordering a Sam, and apparently he ordered $2000 worth of parts with that. Might turn out to be the ultimate Sam, SON front hub, Phil Rivvie rear, Nitto racks. So let a friend ride your Riv, and

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2010-10-30 Thread EricP
Good job. Sounds awfully close to my own Sam. Hopefully he enjoys it. Here's how mine has looked most of this year - http://tinyurl.com/2e7uqac Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 30, 2:59 am, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: All I ordered this week was some Silver shifters, but I talked a

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2010-10-30 Thread SFF
Betty Foy ordered for my wife, Winter is coming on...need some new riding clothes. Time to support the home team - Rivendell! Joel - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

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2010-10-30 Thread Angus
Thanks for the reminder John...order placed. On Oct 29, 12:46 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: We've had a super slow week, and yesterday was the slowest day of all. Grant wrote this last night: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/303 Dave thought of this a little while

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2010-10-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks for this. Can you point me to the Schwalbe speed chart? I am now torn between the Supremes and the 50 mm Liteskin Big Apple ... I know the 60 BAs are very nice rolling for their width, softeness and bulk. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, No the

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2010-10-30 Thread Garth
With each tire description there is a little chart Schwalbe shows. http://www.schwalbetires.com/sites/all/definitions//Evaluation.html http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/toughest http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/faster On Oct 30, 11:50 am, PATRICK MOORE

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2010-10-30 Thread Garth
I forgot to add.the main difference in the Supremes and BA Liteskin is durability and volume. For my $$, I'd choose the Supreme because I perfer the longevity over the minor volume loss. Despite the same labeled size, it will be a little smaller in width and volume, 2-3mm. -- You received

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2010-10-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks -- very useful. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: With each tire description there is a little chart Schwalbe shows. http://www.schwalbetires.com/sites/all/definitions//Evaluation.html http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/toughest

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2010-10-30 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
SOMEWHAT angry? Who raised that moron? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 7:24 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Two posts on our site

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2010-10-30 Thread Rene Sterental
Patrick, I have both and aside from telling that the supremes weigh significantly less, I can't really tell if they roll ant faster on my regular commute of pavement and gravel. My max speed on the downhills seems to be the same. René Sent from my iPhone 4 On Oct 30, 2010, at 8:50 AM, PATRICK

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2010-10-30 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks, Rene; one more small + for the BAs, as far as I am concerned. Patrick Moore, who hit 36.5 mph down the usual, 4/10 mile S bend hill this morning on 60 mm BAs at 12/17 psi. On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, I have both and aside from

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2010-10-30 Thread Garth
Hey Patrick, who's to say you have to get both tires the same? Get one of each! While I thought I was kidding . come to think of it , why not? It's funny how we assume we need the same tire front and rear, but the two serve totally different functions and ride completely different. -- You

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2010-10-30 Thread EricP
First caveat - I have not used the 700xanything Big Apples. Only the 26 inch version. Second, have used the Marathon Supremes in both 26 and 700 versions. Have the latter 700x40 on the Sam Hillborne. I find the Supremes a better climbing tire. My wife feels the Liteskin 26 inch Big Apple is a

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2010-10-30 Thread andrew hill
+1 on the Mara Sups being great climbers and smooth rollers, that occasionally (often often) feel like they are filled with lead (on a SH). andrew On Oct 30, 2010, at 6:07 PM, EricP wrote: First caveat - I have not used the 700xanything Big Apples. Only the 26 inch version. Second, have

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2010-10-30 Thread James Warren
That's interesting. I rode the Marathon Extremes (discontinued by Riv I believe) on the Atlantis today, rode on pavement and climbed on tacky dirt, and they just felt great. I know these things are nonlinear, but I just thought I'd give you some data. -Jim W. p.s. I ate ribs and drank beer in

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2010-10-30 Thread cm
Nitto Humble post and saddlesack xs. Been itching to buy the post and 'sack. What better time than now? Cheers! cm On Oct 30, 6:40 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Thanks for the reminder John...order placed. On Oct 29, 12:46 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: We've had a

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2010-10-29 Thread John Bennett
Nope, but we're happy to take your deposit on one! On Oct 29, 11:01 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:46 PM, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: We've had a super slow week, and yesterday was the slowest day of all. Grant wrote this last night:

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2010-10-29 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Slow here at Hiawatha Cyclery, too. The weather has been more beautiful than usual for October, and I see people out on bikes, but for whatever reason they're not in here buying stuff or getting repairs. A good snow/ice storm would clear us out of studded tires, and some mid-winter seasonal

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2010-10-29 Thread eflayer
Grant's discussion about salary and the SF Giants got me to thinking. Barry Zito is being paid $18 million for this season. He pitched 199 innings. That means he got paid $90 thousand for each inning he pitched. If he averaged 25 pitches per inning, he was getting paid about $3500 per pitch.

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2010-10-29 Thread cyclotourist
Stupid Giants On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: Grant's discussion about salary and the SF Giants got me to thinking. Barry Zito is being paid $18 million for this season. He pitched 199 innings. That means he got paid $90 thousand for each inning he

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2010-10-29 Thread William
We can all vote with our dollars. There are a few things I could afford to stock up on, so I'll call in an order On Oct 29, 1:19 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Stupid Giants On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: Grant's discussion about

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2010-10-29 Thread reynoldslugs
1. I don't need much, but I am gonna call RBWHQ and order some stuff. 2. Earlier this year I noticed that Grant sorta looks like Barry Zito. I am not sure if that is good or bad, but it would be nice if a guy like Grant could feel a little of that mega-million love Barry gets for not pitching.

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2010-10-29 Thread doug peterson
Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to wear out Schwalbe Marathons. On my Atlantis, are rear will go around 6k miles, in a mix of loaded touring, some off roading general riding. I've never pushed one to the point of seeing what's under the tread but when the center of the chevron

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2010-10-29 Thread reynoldslugs
Jim Hill's comments remind me, for some reason, of a quote they used to hang on the wall in City Lights Bookstore, in SF: People who say they love poetry and never buy any are a bunch of cheap sons-of-bitches. - attributed variously to Kenneth Patchen and Lawrence Ferlinghetti Hope that doesn't

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2010-10-29 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
My first bike shop job was at one of the larger shops in the area, and the owner is/was a pretty hard-headed, sharp-elbowed businessman. I remember one time hearing him telling an aspiring-but-procrastinating customer I'm not operating a museum. That has stuck with me over the years - in this

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2010-10-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:39 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to wear out Schwalbe Marathons.  On my Atlantis, are rear will go around 6k miles, in a mix of loaded touring, some off roading general riding.  I've never pushed one to the

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2010-10-29 Thread doug peterson
My only experience is with the Marathon Supreme. They are certainly flat resistant and long wearing. I find them quite comfortable at 50 to 60 psi in 35 mm size with no load. I'll bump up 10 psi for loaded touring. In over 2 years and at least 10k miles, I've had 2 flats: one a fine wire,

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2010-10-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
How do they roll? On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:49 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: My only experience is with the Marathon Supreme.  They are certainly flat resistant and long wearing.  I find them quite comfortable at 50 to 60 psi in 35 mm size with no load.  I'll bump up 10 psi for

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2010-10-29 Thread William
I notice that the SimpleOne is no longer on the frame specials page. Somebody must've bitten on that offer! I was going to go for a set of Duremes, for a conceptual Hunqafication of my Hillborne. They weren't in stock, so I stocked up on other stuff. If anybody wants an excuse to buy something

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2010-10-29 Thread tdusky
I once wore most of the rubber off of a Ruffy Tuffy. It started it's life on the front and moved to the back. As Ann stated if you have fenders you don't look at your tires. I happened to turn my bike over and was shocked to see the rubber worn away down to the casing, in a number of spots. So I

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2010-10-29 Thread EricP
My good deed was buying stuff from both Rivendell (clothing) and Hiawatha (studded tires and an Everything cage) today. No new frame. But I'm on a self-imposed bike buying hiatus. Otherwise, the Hillborne might go to make way for a Pugsley or some such. As to tires, totally agree with Grant

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2010-10-29 Thread doug peterson
On Oct 29, 4:53 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: How do they roll? -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM I'm not sure how to answer that question. If you mean pedaling effort, they seem pretty similar to the other tires I've used on my Atlantis (Panaracer Pasela T-Serve). My flat

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2010-10-29 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks. So they are not dogs. Flat resistant, mega wear and non-dogginess, if not spriteliness -- worth a closer look in case I come up with some extra change for Riv-helping purchases. FWIW, the cheapish Specialized Hemisphere 38s that I now have on the Fargo's 2nd wheelset roll at ~40/50 as

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2010-10-29 Thread Mike
On Oct 29, 4:02 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: People who say they love poetry and never buy any are a bunch of cheap sons-of-bitches. - attributed variously to Kenneth Patchen and Lawrence Ferlinghetti. I love that. I don't think I ever heard it before. I renewed my membership with