Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-05 Thread Andy Forquer
Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters? ... I would say the versatility to change handlebars more easily and the ability pack bikes for shipping with less cable to worry about when folding into the box. Seems like it might be less stable in the rough, and maybe not much

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Playing, yesterday, my 1-day-a-week television role of Doctor Moore, Bicycle Repairman at a nearby shop, I spent far too much of the owner's time cleaning and overhauling an old Schwinn Collegiate with wide range 5-speed shifted by a massive, Cold Forged Hunqua-Iron, stem-mounted lever pulling a

[RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-05 Thread Liesl
Sorry I'm a total late-comer to this thread (it's been that kinda week)—but I gotta share that in the late '60's, I saved all my allowance, birthday presents, and christmas presents (I announced I only wanted cash) and bought a Schwinn Cherry Krate just like this one only red:

[RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
You lot have got me thinking. Uh oh! Grin. I have moved my thumb shifters to the center of my Albatross and have a lot of delicious curve now available. Haven't tried it out on a real ride yet, so I don't know if the shifting reach will annoy me. Not exactly stem shifters, but stem area

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread Shoji Takahashi
If anyone's inclined to try a top tube-mounted position, Problem Solvers has a clamp on shifter mount. Designed as 31.8mm clamp with shims for 28.6mm tubes, and mounts Shimano shifters. I don't see why it couldn't be attached to the top tube (assuming diameter is appropriate).

[RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread Ron Mc
Joe, your bike is beyond trick. On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 7:35:07 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: I just returned from a shakedown ride with new stemmies on La Ramba. Mavic/Simplex retrofriction shifting a 7/8-speed-era front Dura-Ace double and rear Mavic on a 12-27 9-speed cassette. It's

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread Ron Mc
Steve, nice example. I had the '69 version of The Rail http://budgetbicyclectr.com/1967-sears-the-rail-muscle-bicycle.html Wish I still had it, but my dad sold it when I got my Wards 10 speed On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 9:01:53 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Wed, 2013-04-03 at 18:57

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread René Sterental
Patrick, You have two options: - IRD Stem quill shifter mount sold by RBW: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/sh15.htm, which is the most elegant solution IMO. Currently on my Betty: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/8550045363/in/set-72157625115263842 - Use the two thumbies you have,

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread René Sterental
Sorry, posted two photos of the same IRD mount. Here's a photo of the thumbies: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/6533403569/in/set-72157625115263842 And a better one of an older Atlantis configuration when I first did it: Left shifter goes on the bottom, right shifter on the top since it's

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ha! I just came back in from moving them to that exact spot, René. Thanks! Now, for the mechanically inept, how easy is it to shorten the cables (after riding with them too long to ensure I like the stem position)? Or am I best off taking it to a shop? With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, April

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread René Sterental
It's not hard, but if you've never done it before, you may want to use the bike shop. You'll need a cable/housing cutter and a couple of replacement cables just in case. Measure twice, cut once, and if you somehow can't get the bike to shift well (some minor derailers adjustments may be needed),

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread Peter Morgano
Get a quality cutter and go for it, don't try to use your standard wire cutters, the park tool is worth the investment. On Apr 4, 2013 11:55 AM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: It's not hard, but if you've never done it before, you may want to use the bike shop. You'll need a

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread Philip Williamson
Agreed. Good tools are worthwhile, but you can do it without the Park cutter. I just cut some (Jagwire) shifter housing with my regular sidecutters, and it was very hard. Not impossible. I've never used the real tool, but now I might get one. You shouldn't need replacement cables, since

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Get the Park cable cutters. I've had my first pair for years, and it's been eminently useable many times over. Worth every penny. On Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:35:41 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: Agreed. Good tools are worthwhile, but you can do it without the Park cutter. I just cut

[RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread Joe Bernard
Thanks, Ron! It came to me as a mostly-complete bike from Jason Leach a couple weeks ago. I added the cockpit, which is flipped Nitto 3-speed bars of indeterminate nomenclature (bought years ago, then stashed), Nitto Tallux, early-'90s Ritchey-labeled Dia-Compe brake levers, Ergon grips, and

[RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread Nick Worthington
Jan: Just speculating here, but I wonder if it was because so many early derailers were chain actuated, which made the cable angle less critical, allowing for more varied cable routing. Then the next generation of derailers required the cable to enter from the rear, which pretty much

[RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread William
It certainly looks like it should work, since it appears to be planar. I like the idea! On Thursday, April 4, 2013 5:00:20 PM UTC-7, Meade Anderson wrote: *Has anybody tried using the problem solvers mounts as a spacer on an threadless steerer? Yup, you’ll have to shim it but that’s

[RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-04 Thread justinaugust
I've wondered for a whole why no one has made a spacer with two shifter bosses on either side... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-03 Thread Ron Mc
they make total sense for an upright bike. On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 10:49:35 PM UTC-5, James Warren wrote: They are the best shifter style for using one's left hand to shift the right shifter or vice versa if/when the need ever arises. I'm really liking my IRD stem shifter mounts. They

[RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-03 Thread gep71154
They're accessible enough without being t. If you think of shifting instantly as a your right as a cyclist, then you won't want 'em, but if you see shifting as a nice convenience and then say OK, that's plenty convenient (which maybe it isn't in some circumstances, but nothing that Better

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I rather liked the very hefty and solid, chromed stem shifters on the almost-pristine Collegiate I owned a few years ago (owned briefly -- sold it). They shifted the wide range 5 speed fw very well through an Alvit -- don't know why people sneer at the Alvit. That said, on any bike with anything

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-03 Thread Peter Morgano
I loved the positive action of stem mounted shifters, something about how long the levers are just seemed effortless to shift. On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I just returned from a shakedown ride with new stemmies on La Ramba. Mavic/Simplex

[RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-03 Thread Jan Heine
I wonder why few bikes in recent years have put the shifters on the top tube. That was common in the 1930s, when most cyclotourists rode in a more upright position. Top tube-mounted shifters would be as accessible as stem-mounted ones, but you'd eliminate the cable housing (the shifters no

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-03 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2013-04-03 at 18:57 -0700, Jan Heine wrote: I wonder why few bikes in recent years have put the shifters on the top tube. That was common in the 1930s, when most cyclotourists rode in a more upright position. Top tube-mounted shifters would be as accessible as stem-mounted ones, but

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-03 Thread Jan Heine
More like this http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/faure.jpg And if you are concerned about the shifters, you also should be concerned about the stem right in front of them... Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at www.janheine.com On Wednesday, April 3,

Re: [RBW] Re: What's the Biggest Advantage of Stem-mounted Shifters?

2013-04-03 Thread Alex Zeibot
Jan, Off topic but it piqued my interest, what is this thing situated on the fender between the headlight and straddle cable in the second picture? On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: More like this http://www.bikequarterly.com/images/faure.jpg And if