[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-17 Thread Angus
Arkel T28s but I'm thinking they may be a bit small for an 8-day trip planned this summer. Just wanted to add that I've found I carry very much the same amount of stuff for an S24O than I did for an 8 day ride. You are still going to take a tent, sleeping bag, fix it tools etc... I have two

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-16 Thread emilyb
Greetings RBW group, I've been reading through the pannier recommendations because I'm investigating buying my first set of panniers (for Bleriot) and I'm wanting a light weight set. I like the Arkel T28s but I'm thinking they may be a bit small for an 8-day trip planned this summer. Does anyone

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-09 Thread M. Chandler
I think I have it narrowed down to: * Ortlieb Sport Packer Plus * Lone Peak P-099 * Lone Peak P-100 * Lone Peak P-150 * Arkel B-26 Since my frame has been delayed again, I've got a little more time to figure out which ones I should get. -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-08 Thread M. Chandler
I must admit that I like the looks of these: http://thetouringstore.com/ORTLIEB/Ort%20PANNIERS/SPP/SPP%20PAGE.htm I'm just wondering if they're overkill for my needs, though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this

Re: [RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-08 Thread Bill Gibson
I'm gonna make a pair of those clam-digger bucket panniers. Then I can leave them on the bike in high-theft zones and feel good that someone needs them more than I do if they disappear, and then I can make an improved version. Seriously, everyone need more than one kind of pannier, to suit the

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-08 Thread Corwin
I don't have dedicated indoor bike storage at work. But in the Rivendell spirit, I just take my bike to my office. I figure it's safe there (bikes get ripped off regularly in the parking lot - locked or not), and I sold a Saluki by bringing my Quickbeam to work. On Apr 7, 11:28 am, JoelMatthews

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-07 Thread M. Chandler
If waterproof-ness (or Ortlieb's level of waterproof-ness) isn't a must-have, then what about the offerings from Lone Peak and/or Arkel? From what I've read, the Lone Peaks are lighter than most, and quite serviceable for 2-3x/week use (25 miles round/trip). On Apr 6, 9:46 pm, Me

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-07 Thread JoelMatthews
For commuting, unless you are only going to have a pannier on one side of the bike, panniers that attach at the top such as the Brooks and the Laplander: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4790070id=197328405989 may be the better option. Saves you the time of attaching and detaching both

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-07 Thread JoelMatthews
Slightly OT - Have any of you figured a handy way to get your dry cleaning home by bike? The dry cleaner walking distance from my house hates buttons with a passion. My new MUSA Rail shirt is missing the collar button an I only wore it twice. It is easy enough to pack dirty laundry in the

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-07 Thread M. Chandler
We have indoor bike storage facilities at work. On Apr 7, 10:38 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: For commuting, unless you are only going to have a pannier on one side of the bike, panniers that attach at the top such as the Brooks and the Laplander:

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-07 Thread JoelMatthews
We have indoor bike storage facilities at work. Now that is a great perk! Wish we did at my work. On Apr 7, 12:21 pm, M. Chandler milehighska...@gmail.com wrote: We have indoor bike storage facilities at work. On Apr 7, 10:38 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: For commuting,

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-07 Thread happyriding
On Apr 6, 10:10 am, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote: Interesting. Have you noted that not single person who replied to your post recommended the Arkel 54 panniers?? Here's why I didn't: Tremendously overbuilt and oversized - this results in increased weight. There is a picture of a

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-07 Thread happyriding
Has anyone tried these panniers: http://www.flickr.com/photos/acupofgreentea/4457931804 :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-07 Thread Dave Craig
Yeah, it does look heavy, but maybe those packs are filled with marshmallows for s'mores! Just like in backpacking, some folks put a higher priority on comfort in camp than comfort while traveling. I love riding and walking as unencumbered as possible, so I carry as little as possible. I can

Re: [RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-07 Thread rswatson
Sweet! If it's got a shower in it, I'm getting one for the Kogswell! On Apr 7, 2010, at 15:11, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone tried these panniers: http://www.flickr.com/photos/acupofgreentea/4457931804 :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-06 Thread Dave Craig
Interesting. Have you noted that not single person who replied to your post recommended the Arkel 54 panniers?? Here's why I didn't: Tremendously overbuilt and oversized - this results in increased weight. Compared with the Ortlieb backrollers, this translates to about 2 pounds extra per pair

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-06 Thread happyriding
Hi, Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts. On Apr 6, 10:10 am, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote: Interesting. Have you noted that not single person who replied to your post recommended the Arkel 54 panniers?? Here's why I didn't: Tremendously overbuilt and oversized - this

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-06 Thread JoelMatthews
Here's something I don't understand about the Ortliebs. I would like to get high visibility panniers, like the yellow Ortliebs. However, the back of the panniers is black. By back do you mean the side that attaches to the rack or the side one sees from the back and front of the bike? If the

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-06 Thread JoelMatthews
Yes, I understand that, but I don't like the black color on the back of the panniers. They should be hi vis yellow all the way around. Every little bit helps. As far as I can tell, there is no reason for the back of the panniers to be black. I guess I could hang some high vis triangles off

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-06 Thread Dave Craig
On Apr 6, 10:52 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughts. Yes, I noticed they looked kind of BIG.  However, I wondered if the intent of the design was to allow you to forgo front panniers.  Will a bike handle better without front

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-06 Thread happyriding
On Apr 6, 11:56 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Here's something I don't understand about the Ortliebs.  I would like to get high visibility panniers, like the yellow Ortliebs.  However, the back of the panniers is black. By back do you mean the side that attaches to the rack

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-06 Thread Dave Craig
No recommendations/experience with the ones you are looking at. For me, the choice of panniers depends on how committed you are to commuting. If you ride rain or shine and want a pair of panniers that are easy to use and waterproof, the small Ortlieb sport packers or front rollers are great

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-06 Thread JoelMatthews
As far as I know, it doesn't matter what color background a reflector is stuck to. So having a less visible color for the rearward facing side of the pannier, i.e. black instead of hi vis yellow, strikes me as being a flaw in the design. Ortlieb designs its panniers to German government

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-06 Thread Me
For whatever it's worth: Three kinds of pannier people... 1. Those that buy something other than Ortlieb [refer to #3]. 2. Those that buy Ortlieb first. 3. Those that bought something other than Ortlieb before they then bought their current panniers, Ortlieb. They work, they are

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-05 Thread happyriding
Thanks for the recommendations. It looks like Arkel's GT-54 panniers offer the best of both worlds: they have a dry sack integrated into the main compartment, which you can either use or roll up so it is out of the way. But they are extremely expensive at $380. I guess you could just buy a dry

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-05 Thread manueljohnacosta
Or you could wait till Rivendell finishes their panniers. Check out the new post http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/225 -Manny On Apr 5, 9:29 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the recommendations. It looks like Arkel's GT-54 panniers offer the best of both

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-05 Thread scott
Carradice Super C's and/or Kendall panniers hands down. I'll never own a non-canvas bag again after using these for the last few years. Also, there are Sackville panniers coming soon. I'd recommend those without even seeing them. S. On Apr 5, 12:30 am, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: +1 for

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-05 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
IMO waterproofness is good but not absolutely necessary. I rode a century in an absolute downpour last year. All my stuff in a decidedly non-waterproof Minnehaha pannier stayed dry, except at the bottom where road splash did soak through and dampen some of my extra clothes. This was what I would

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-05 Thread Beth H
On Apr 5, 5:03 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: IMO waterproofness is good but not absolutely necessary. I would add that this depends on where you live. I'd guess Minnesota has more dry days than Oregon does. I've tried a number of panniers and keep coming back to

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-05 Thread Rick Smith
I'm waiting for the Acorn panniers. Not that they've been announced or anything but I'm hoping. Rick On Apr 5, 10:16 am, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote: On Apr 5, 5:03 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: IMO waterproofness is good but not absolutely

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-05 Thread EricP
I'm a fan of the Ortliebs. Mainly due to the ease of cleaning the outside of winter grit and grime. In absolute terms, have a set of Arkel Sackaroos I purchased from Jim a few years ago. They work as fine as anything. Even with the basic attachement system, haven't had problems. Did have my

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-04 Thread J. Burkhalter
Carradice Super C's. On Apr 4, 8:45 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I had pretty much decided to get some Ortliebs, but then I read this thread: http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-270129.html which points out that waterproof may not be such a good thing in hot

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-04 Thread Dave Craig
Counterpoint - My wife and I have many, many miles of loaded touring with Ortliebs. The packs are simple, light, durable, relatively secure from raccoons and other chiselers and yes, waterproof. Ortlieb packs are very secure and I've even used them off road. I have thousands of miles of

[RBW] Re: pannier recommendations

2010-04-04 Thread cm
+1 for the Carridice Super C's in the non category. Get'em from Wiggle and save a bundle The Arkels are nice too but much more $$. That said, just had this exact conversation with friends who just spent 3 years biking around the world and they, and they claim the around-the-world set, say it is