Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 21:10 -0700, William wrote: I'd buy one of those Rivendells, if they didn't all need one of those 'signature' drivetrains. Drivetrains just act as a shelf to collect mud. I'm going to order one of those drivetrainless bikes, so I can remain mud free when I slog through

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 15:08 -0700, Aaron Thomas wrote: The kickstand plate seems to limit the versatility of the frame, without really giving you any significant benefits. After all, you can always add a kickstand to a frame without a plate. Yes, sure, if you're willing to risk the chance of

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-07 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 18:14 -0700, EricP wrote: Winter riding. Even with full coverage fenders, snow/salt/slush accumulate on a plate. I still argue this can lead to early corrosion of the stays when it builds up over a few winters. Certainly not a problem here in Northern Virginia. --

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-07 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/7/11 3:08 PM, Aaron Thomas at aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I wish the Riv/Soma frame didn't have Riv's new signature kickstand plate. I recall seeing a photo of someone's Hilsen (maybe Cyclofiend's?) that had been CX-raced in the mud. And the kickstand plate acted as a mud shelf, piling

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Does anyone know how much it will cost? And, second, what current or recent Rivendell model will this most closely approximate? Tange Prestige: I remember when that was really high end stuff, at least in the marketing literature. The tubing had a nice, clear ping when you flicked it with your

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-05 Thread Seth Vidal
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:09 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: 1.125 threadless is certainly the MOST mainstream, but I don't think I'd advise Riv or even Soma to grow their business by becoming more mainstream.  1 threaded is flat out better for reasons that Riv thinks are important.  

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-05 Thread cyclotourist
I've come to appreciate threadless. The ease of setting them is fantastic. If I were going to get a new bike, I would prefer it. I don't know of any downside to them, other than they don't look good with high bars on a too-small frame. I think they look nicer than the big 7 of a quill stem

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks. Do you know if the new Prestige is still thinwall heat treated? My 1991 Specialized Stumpjumper Team was the old Prestige and it was a very nice frame indeed; I don't remember hearing of any weight limit -- my brother Peter, a good 40-50 lb heavier than my 170, had no problem beating up

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-05 Thread cyclotourist
I've got three kids, so have done my part to perpetuate the species... it's all extranious bits now I suppose. On 4/5/11, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Hmm, crotchal safety and unimportant differentiators in the same sentence... Ryan On Apr 5, 5:39 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-05 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Interesting; thanks for posting that. I wonder what my frame was made from: certainly oversized and quite light, but doubtless not as thinwall as tubing for light road racers. Actually, I think a good part of the bike's appeal was the frame design: IIRC, it was well balanced: not to twitchy, not

Re: [RBW] Re: Soma/Riv Bike

2011-04-01 Thread Eric Daume
I asked Soma about this, and they said they will do a blog post when they have more information. Nothing as of yet. Eric On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 4:53 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully March 19,2010 is not really the latest. :) Calling Merry Sales is probably the best way to