Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-12-01 Thread Tim Butterfield
> I think I will be way, way under MAF for quite a while yet. And, this morning, all of that changed. I was instructed to keep a more elevated heart rate for sessions of at least 20 minutes in length and up to 30. I'll need to work up to that. The PT used the Karvonen formula and calculated an

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-11-30 Thread Tim Butterfield
Thanks, Forrest. It's not just a dream. It's real and I get to ride it almost every day, though only for a very short amount of time and on the trainer. I'm certainly looking forward to getting it outside again. Tim On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Forrest Meyer

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-11-30 Thread Tim Butterfield
Patrick, I use a Fitbit also. I took your advice and did some periodic quick checks during my session at home this evening. For my 10 minute session, I was only doing about 2.8 mph in about the third lowest gear of my 3x9. Cadence didn't show; think I need to adjust the sensor position. Per

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-11-30 Thread Tim Butterfield
Andy, I have been very careful getting on/off the Homer on the trainer. With the way it is positioned against a counter as shown in the picture, I have to mount it from the left side. What I have been doing is: while unweighted, rotate the left foot to the correct position. place foot on

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-11-30 Thread Forrest Meyer
Heal quickly, Tim. Dreaming about that first Riv may help to speed recovery. Best wishes. On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 9:14:14 PM UTC-5, Tim Butterfield wrote: > > Per an emergency room visit late last night, I tore the meniscus in my > left knee and my 'get acquainted with Homer' plan has

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-11-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
Great points, Tim. I'd not remembered we shared the barefoot and MAF journey years ago. Thanks for the reminder! Yes, I do it all by feel. I recently tried a Fitbit and found I actually fall by feel squarely where I thought I did, based on the reality that the age drop off is less than

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-11-30 Thread ascpgh
Tim, Great news that it was a repairable injury instead of a cartilage tear leaving your knee short of OEM-spec bushing. Be very careful getting on and off your sessions on the Homer. I can attest that it's bad enough and unsettling to your proprioception to be wounded and healing, but the

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-11-29 Thread Tim Butterfield
Patrick, So, back to the gadgets. :) Not shown in the picture was the Garmin 820 on the stem, though it was turned off. There is also a QuadLock mount on the bar just in front of that for my iPhone. For now, I only use that for the countdown timer to end my session. My last rides before the

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-11-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Something to consider is a HR monitor so you stay within your aerobic threshold (not too low, not too high) a la Maffetone. The basic formula is 180-age for the magic hr. It does an amazing job of building endurance and promoting recovery. Until I did it, I thought I was in shape. I wasn't. I

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-11-29 Thread Tim Butterfield
Howard, That is a very generous offer. I really appreciate it. I have one of those Schwalbe Insider tires. It's this one in 700x35: http://a.co/77tQjXx As mentioned in my reply to Glen, I'll be putting that on once I get up to doing it. So, a separate recovery thread? I'll try to remember to

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-11-29 Thread Tim Butterfield
Glen, Thanks for the idea. Sweat net ordered. Not sure where I'll put a fan, maybe a small one will fit next to the TV, which is just in front of the bike. I have the trainer tire, but haven't been up to changing it yet. It was tough enough just getting the bike from the storage unit into the

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-11-29 Thread Howard Hatten
Tim I have a 700 trainer tire I'm not using that I will give you. All you have to do is start a new thread and report on your recovery and eventual return to the road. Contact me off list with your shipping details and I'll send it out. Howard Livonia Mi. -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-11-29 Thread Glen
Good news on your ACL, To save your Homer, get a cover to prevent your sweat from landing on it. Sweat can be corrosive and headsets really hate it as you will be leaning over the stem and headset while riding. Many are available including this on for $13.50 at Amazon http://a.co/bFqsSRY A

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-28 Thread Tim Butterfield
Andy, Thanks for the report of success. When the doc mentioned a stationary bike for motion without a load, I thought it had promise also. Once I get past surgery and into rehab, I'll let the PT determine when I'm ready for it. But, by then, I will probably have a new smart trainer set up in my

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-28 Thread ascpgh
Tim, I had an eventful ACL blowout, reconstruction and rehabilitation into which cycling fit very well. Probably too well under the circumstances, but the net result was the reintroduction of cycling as an enjoyable activity. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 2:17:43

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-27 Thread Tim Butterfield
Thanks, René. On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:46 AM, René Sterental wrote: > Hope you get a speedy recovery! > > René > > > On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Tim Butterfield > wrote: > >> Just to give an update on my knee... >> >> The MRI showed it was

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-27 Thread René Sterental
Hope you get a speedy recovery! René On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Tim Butterfield wrote: > Just to give an update on my knee... > > The MRI showed it was not a meniscus tear. It's an ACL tear. It is not > likely to be going bone on bone anytime soon, but it will

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-27 Thread Tim Butterfield
Just to give an update on my knee... The MRI showed it was not a meniscus tear. It's an ACL tear. It is not likely to be going bone on bone anytime soon, but it will delay recovery. I will be getting reconstruction surgery late October or early November followed by six months of rehab. I kind

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-14 Thread Tim Butterfield
Ryan, Thank for the thoughts. It was not Homer related. Homie was safe and sound in my living room when this happened. It was boat related. I was on an unfamiliar boat, stepped from the swim step over the gunwale into the cockpit, and shifted forward with my left foot/leg still weighted.

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-14 Thread Tim Butterfield
Thanks, Patrick. Sorry to hear of your departure (vacation?) from the group. I hope all is well with you and yours. Tim On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Och! Sorry to hear that! Prayers that you heal rapidly and well, Tim! > > With abandon, >

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-14 Thread Ryan Fleming
Hope this wasn't an accident with the new Homer by the way...your new bike looks really sweet. I hope your recovery is a speedy one. Good luck On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 9:14:14 PM UTC-5, Tim Butterfield wrote: > > Per an emergency room visit late last night, I tore the meniscus in my >

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-12 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! Sorry to hear that! Prayers that you heal rapidly and well, Tim! With abandon, Patrick On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 8:14:14 PM UTC-6, Tim Butterfield wrote: > > Per an emergency room visit late last night, I tore the meniscus in my > left knee and my 'get acquainted with Homer' plan

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-12 Thread Tim Butterfield
Per an emergency room visit late last night, I tore the meniscus in my left knee and my 'get acquainted with Homer' plan has been put on temporary hold. I will continue to lurk on and off, but my occasional banter has been put on hold a bit 'til I get things sorted. I now need to follow up with

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-10 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Tim Butterfield wrote: > I guess I could start with this part: > http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders/ > fender-hardware/spring-thing.html > I ordered the spring thing today. Hopefully, I will have that some time

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-09 Thread Tim Butterfield
Brian, Thanks for the detailed instructions. I was missing the spacer part of René's suggestion. I guess I could start with this part: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders/fender-hardware/spring-thing.html It has the button head allen bolt, nylon lock nut, and washers.

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-09 Thread Brian Campbell
Having installed many sets of metal fenders, I can confirm what Rene and Steve have communicated is indeed correct. There is no fork crown position, fender mounting, that that will eliminate the fender rattle you are experiencing. The front portion of the fender needs to be stabilized. Whether

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-04 Thread René Sterental
What color did you get? The carved doesn't come in the rust, only black, dark gray and natural. FWIW, I've got both types and cannot really feel any significant difference, at least riding with padded shorts. Haven't compared them riding otherwise. If your front fender isn't attached to your

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-02 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Ryan Fleming wrote: > It does look like they did their usual meticulous packing job , however > and I'm sure they built up the bike carefully as well. I would expect no > less of them > They did do a meticulous packing job. Of

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-02 Thread Ryan Fleming
It does look like they did their usual meticulous packing job , however and I'm sure they built up the bike carefully as well. I would expect no less of them On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 12:46:40 PM UTC-5, Tim Butterfield wrote: > > Wally, > > I saw mine said 'Top' on it. I didn't notice

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-02 Thread Tim Butterfield
Wally, I saw mine said 'Top' on it. I didn't notice any drawings. I would check now, but I cut the top parts off of the box and that piece is upside down with all of the foam and packing bits piled on it. I'll check it again later. Tim On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 3:49 AM, Wally Estrella

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-02 Thread Wally Estrella
>From what I've seen on a couple of Riv bike boxes is that someone seems to like to draw a cat figure along the top. Mine had a "Catlantis" on it. At least show the cat if it has one...looking forward to seeing your AHH. On Friday, September 2, 2016 at 2:06:07 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote: > >

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-09-02 Thread Lungimsam
Failure to produce pics of a new bike is frowned upon here and could result in ejection from the forum. For all we know that could be a mah jong table in there. The tape job does hint at a Rivendell packing job though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-31 Thread Tim Butterfield
Joe, Thanks for the reminder to curb enthusiasm during assembly. :) I plan to go slow and safe and make sure I do it right the first time. Hopefully, I can stick to that plan. Also, with my AHH having the fenders, racks, lights, etc. that were not on the video bike, I expect it to take a bit

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-31 Thread Tim Butterfield
Will, I had seen that before, but reviewed it again now and will again during assembly. I have some lithium grease, but may need to get some other kind of generic grease for this. Thanks. Tim On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Will wrote: > You've probably seen this,

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-31 Thread Joe Bernard
Go slow, keep an eye on things like handlebars slamming into toptube while you're busy with something else. I've found from dreaded personal experience that the first scratch is very easy to do when you're excited by; and unfamiliar with; a just-out-of-the-box bike. Eyes wide open! -- You

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-31 Thread Ryan Fleming
Lucky youpost pictures...I'm expecting a bang-up assembly job at Riv HQ too...I decided to go that route once I saw the AHH assembly video Will mentioned On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 2:34:15 PM UTC-5, Tim Butterfield wrote: > > Next update... > > So, I got this email from Corey, aka

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-31 Thread Will
You've probably seen this, but just in case (the official RIv 58cm Hilson assembly video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbvZJWIm1o0 On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 2:34:15 PM UTC-5, Tim Butterfield wrote: > > Next update... > > So, I got this email from Corey, aka BikePacker @ Riv. My

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-31 Thread dougP
Sounds like the stars are lining up nicely. Rivendell does such a nice job of building the bikes that IIRC all I needed was maybe some Allen wrenches to assemble it. I know it was less than an hour from doorbell to out the front door. We'll be looking for full report, with pictures.:).

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-31 Thread Tim Butterfield
Next update... So, I got this email from Corey, aka BikePacker @ Riv. My AHH has shipped! Yeah! :D Per another email, it might be here Friday. I guess I might have a busy weekend and a very crowded living room. My folding Park Tool PCS-10 stand arrived just in time. I have a little folding

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/28/2016 03:20 PM, dougP wrote: Tim: I've not read some of the replies from recently but my 2 cents is to go with the Rivendell standard triple with a 24 tooth granny and the 12-36 Shimano cassette. While one may not use the lowest gear often, it is certainly nice to have & does not

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-28 Thread dougP
Tim: I've not read some of the replies from recently but my 2 cents is to go with the Rivendell standard triple with a 24 tooth granny and the 12-36 Shimano cassette. While one may not use the lowest gear often, it is certainly nice to have & does not require giving up anything to get it. A

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-28 Thread Tim Butterfield
Thanks, Joe and Toshi. I suspect I will be able to make good use of a super low a gear. I would have to go out of my way to do it, but there is a climb here in the city of Anacortes, WA I would like to be able to do. It averages 7% grade over only 0.3 miles, but has a section over 17% grade. At

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-27 Thread Joe Bernard
Absolutely, Toshi. My apartment is at the top of a short-but-steep hill, and it can be a bear at the end of a ride. That 24 x 34 combo means I can continue to spin instead of grinding out the last desperate mile. I love it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-27 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I regularly do hilly rides and never felt like my 24 chainring with 34 cog in the back is too low. This feeling is especially true after a bunch of riding and when I am really tired. A slow spinning ride certainly beats walking up the hill for me. Whatever long or tired may be for each person

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Brewster Fong
On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 2:17:39 PM UTC-7, Tim Butterfield wrote: > > Steve, > > I like your Century Special 13-30 range. That may be something for me to > aspire to. I'm not really sure of what I need for a low gear. I like the > idea of the 18 given my currently weakened state. As I

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > 18" is a seriously low low gear. If you're planning on climbing mountain > passes with 50 lb of luggage on your bike, you will come to really > appreciate an 18" low gear. For unloaded riding, I'm not sure if you'll

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/26/2016 05:17 PM, Tim Butterfield wrote: Steve, I like your Century Special 13-30 range. That may be something for me to aspire to. I'm not really sure of what I need for a low gear. I like the idea of the 18 given my currently weakened state. As I build strength and endurance, a

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > Pics next week! Ah, anticipation! :) To quote Brian, "It's so sharp looking, I doubt any accessories could diminish its charm." It's supposed to ship around Tuesday. I'm not sure when it will arrive in WA state or

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Joe Bernard
Pics next week! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Tim Butterfield
Steve, I like your Century Special 13-30 range. That may be something for me to aspire to. I'm not really sure of what I need for a low gear. I like the idea of the 18 given my currently weakened state. As I build strength and endurance, a higher low gear that allows closer spacing may be

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/26/2016 04:43 PM, Tim Butterfield wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Steve Palincsar > wrote: I'm not seeing a 9 speed 12-36 cassette, although I do see a 12-34. This page has the option for 9 speed 12-36t cassette.

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 1:02 PM, René Sterental wrote: > Tim, you'll do great with 9 or 10. And, if you like the barend shifters > but don't like their position, there's always the stem adapter to put them > there. I have that setup on my Betty and love it as well. > >

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:32 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > I'm not seeing a 9 speed 12-36 cassette, although I do see a 12-34. > This page has the option for 9 speed 12-36t cassette. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/cs.htm -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/26/2016 04:02 PM, René Sterental wrote: Steve, Thanks for enlightening me. I had done all my 10 speed conversions with either the XT 9 speed rear derailleur or the road Sun XCD. As everyone else pointed out really well, 10 speeds with either downtube or barend shifters works very

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread René Sterental
Steve, Thanks for enlightening me. I had done all my 10 speed conversions with either the XT 9 speed rear derailleur or the road Sun XCD. As everyone else pointed out really well, 10 speeds with either downtube or barend shifters works very well provided you stick to a road 10 or MTB 9 speed

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
In the olde days indexing didn't work all that well anyway. On 08/26/2016 09:30 AM, Lungimsam wrote: I just read an article that said that in the olde days beginners would use indexing until they! were experienced enough to switch to friction. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/26/2016 11:40 AM, Tim Butterfield wrote: On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 5:29 AM, Steve Palincsar > wrote: What is your use case for a 122 inch high gear? I have no use for much of anything over 100. That was just what came up on the gear

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 5:29 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Really, these days that's not what you need to worry about. Indexing > failures that you need to switch to friction to work around are rare as > hens teeth today. > I'm not worried about this. It was just one item

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:54 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > What is "radar taillight" ? It is a tail light that has a rear facing radar built into it. As a vehicle approach from behind, the tail light expands from a narrow led light to a wide led light. There is also a

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Brian Campbell
Thanks for the info! As for the "great indexing reliability ruse" I am with you 100%. I use down tube shifters, rather than brifter for the reason you stated previously. I have set bike up with 10 speed friction using shimano bar ends and while workable, it was too sensitive for my ham handed

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Lungimsam
I like frictioning with 7-speed and highly recommend it. Sunxcd rear derailer, microshift 9- speed fd triple , Silver shifters, XD2 crankset, HG50 7-speed cassette 13-30T, SRAM PC870 chain, 4.5mm spacer for cassette on shimano type freehub on 135mm rear wheel. It is an all silver colored

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/26/2016 09:21 AM, Brian Campbell wrote: FWIW, I use a 12-30 Ultegra cassette, 10 Speed, 10 speed indexed Dura Ace down tube shifters and an Ultegra long cage rear derailleur, 6603, with 46/30 chain rings and it all works really well. 100% totally compatible, designed to work together

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Lungimsam
I just read an article that said that in the olde days beginners would use indexing until they! were experienced enough to switch to friction. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Brian Campbell
FWIW, I use a 12-30 Ultegra cassette, 10 Speed, 10 speed indexed Dura Ace down tube shifters and an Ultegra long cage rear derailleur, 6603, with 46/30 chain rings and it all works really well. Also with the Dura Ace 10 speed down tube shifters "not " having a friction mode is not an issue.

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
This is absolutely wrong. On 08/26/2016 12:21 AM, René Sterental wrote: The Shimano changes only apply to brifters or MTB shifters where in 10 speeds you cannot mix. Not to barend shifters or downtube shifters. The front is still friction and the rear is indexed correctly for both 9 or 10

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
DynaSys is incompatible with all Shimano indexed road shifters, regardless of where they are mounted, because they changed the cable pull to make it so. That can be corrected with a device such as the Wolftooth TanPan that alters the cable pull. On 08/26/2016 01:03 AM, Joe Bernard wrote: I

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/26/2016 01:19 AM, Tim Butterfield wrote: Thanks, all, for the replies. I think part of the issue was the Dura Ace 7900 down tube shifters are indexed and that road indexing did not match the mountain rear derailleur. If there as an indexing failure, I couldn't fall back to friction.

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-26 Thread Joe Bernard
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Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-25 Thread Tim Butterfield
Thanks, all, for the replies. I think part of the issue was the Dura Ace 7900 down tube shifters are indexed and that road indexing did not match the mountain rear derailleur. If there as an indexing failure, I couldn't fall back to friction. I read through this article from that discussed a lot

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-25 Thread Joe Bernard
I don't think that's right, René. If a 10-speed brifter won't index a Dyna-Sis derailer, other 10-speed road shifters shouldn't, either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-25 Thread René Sterental
The Shimano changes only apply to brifters or MTB shifters where in 10 speeds you cannot mix. Not to barend shifters or downtube shifters. The front is still friction and the rear is indexed correctly for both 9 or 10 speeds. And the derailleurs are irrelevant. René On Thursday, August 25, 2016,

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-25 Thread René Sterental
Tim, I haven't tied den thie whole thread, but I have that exact setup in my Atlantis and it works perfectly. Shimano 10 speed downtube shifters, front road crankset, now René Herse, triple chainrings, had Shimano XT rear derailleur but switched to Sun XCD front and rear derailleurs for the all

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
Not all love turns out good in the end. Look at Romeo & Juliet. Or Oedipus & his mom. But that's not the case with BES. On 08/25/2016 10:06 PM, Eric Norris wrote: Yeah, but Apollonia ends up blowing up, and Michael goes bad … real bad. --Eric N campyonly...@me.com

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-25 Thread Eric Norris
Yeah, but Apollonia ends up blowing up, and Michael goes bad … real bad. --Eric N campyonly...@me.com www.CampyOnly.com Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com @Campyonlyguy > On Aug 25, 2016, at 7:03 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > There isn't a thing in the world wrong with 9 speed.

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
There isn't a thing in the world wrong with 9 speed. You can even customize it: most of my bikes run 13-30, and all but one of those are Sheldon's Century Special 12-27s turned into 13-30s by removing the 12, replacing the 13 with a 1st position 13 and adding a flat 30 behind the 27. I use

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-25 Thread Joe Bernard
Tim, if my recollection is correct, we (the collective we) kinda started with this convo. There may be ways to make your 10-speed downtuber idea work, but it's not what Riv is used to, and Roman's suggestion has been proven over many years around there. My new Appaloosa came with Shimano

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-25 Thread Tim Butterfield
Steve, I heard from Brian, who is doing my build. There is also an issue with the narrow 10 speed chain falling between the chainrings. Brian is recommending the 3x9 with bar end shifters and I'm going with that. I'll ask about that Audax shifter location and see what he says. Thanks. Tim On

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-25 Thread Tim Butterfield
Steve, That sounds about right. I'm glad there is a fix for it. I'm thinking of going with the recommended 3x9 option. As for shifter location, if not down tube, I'm not sure I want bar ends. I shouldn't have any knee collisions with the Nitto Noodle, but I'm not sure. This "not quite a

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 08/25/2016 06:19 PM, Tim Butterfield wrote: Steve, Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure of the exact wording used to describe the problem. Part was related to the Dura Ace 7900 down tube shifter being road and the rear derailleur and 10 speed 12-36 cassette being mountain. In other

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-25 Thread Tim Butterfield
Next update... My AHH build just had another hiccup. I got a call a bit ago and it appears they have run into a slight snag. The 10 speed cassette/rear is mountain and doesn't quite match up with the road front, triple XD2 crank, and 7900 down tube shifters. Evidently, have the 3x10 with down

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
My mistake! Sorry. On 08/09/2016 10:29 PM, Tim Butterfield wrote: Steve, Thanks for the thought, but that is 650b and my AHH is 700c. The widest Honjo hammered 700c fenders Roman or I have found are the 45mm from Boulder Cycles. With 700c, I needed to switch to smooth to get 50mm. If

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-09 Thread Tim Butterfield
Next update... I got a call from Roman today with a couple of issues on my AHH build. They have not yet received the polished Paul's brakes. Evidently, something happened to a machine that is holding up manufacturing. They will investigate to provide me some more information. It also seems the

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-02 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 8:51 PM, Don Compton wrote: > Tim, > Please send us pictures of the final build. > Don, I will definitely be posting pictures once completed. If the shipping, weather, and re-assembly cooperate, that should be in about three weeks. Tim -- You

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

2016-08-02 Thread Tim Butterfield
René, Sorry to hear about your delay. Hopefully, needing the fix can bump it up the paint queue. It's good to hear confirmation on the bells. I'm planning to mount it about the same place on mine. Thanks. Tim On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 7:50 PM, René Sterental wrote: >

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2016-08-02 Thread Don Compton
Tim, Please send us pictures of the final build. On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 3:26:51 PM UTC-7, Tim Butterfield wrote: > > Next update... > > RBW has my frame from Waterford and my items from Compass have arrived. > I've settled on the last few items for the initial build. My order now >

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2016-08-02 Thread René Sterental
Ahhh, my custom has already been delayed several weeks, and last week it got another delay because the painter "messed up" when putting the clear coat on the top tube, so the top tube needs to be repainted. Is that one or two weeks more? The way things are going, you're going to get yours sooner

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2016-08-02 Thread Tim Butterfield
Next update... RBW has my frame from Waterford and my items from Compass have arrived. I've settled on the last few items for the initial build. My order now includes a large grey saddlesack, a medium basket & net for front rack, a tool wrap to put in the saddlesack, and a couple of John's Irish

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2016-07-20 Thread Tim Butterfield
Next update... I called RBW and was a bit surprised when Grant answered the phone. I know it's his company and he works there, but I didn't expect him to answer the phones. He said he fired everyone and sent them home. That changed when I asked if he wanted to take over my order from Roman.

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2016-06-28 Thread Tim Butterfield
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 12:03 AM, Tim Butterfield wrote: > For the build sheet, here is the link: > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lq_0chVXRJn4wV8Dl0qaeHpsgttyq3X1lyzIHZwelB0 > I tweaked my build sheet, moved a few items, and added some links where they worked.

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2016-06-28 Thread Tim Butterfield
Patrick, Just to clarify, the wheels are these: https://www.rivbike.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=W70036135DYNO Tim On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Tim Butterfield wrote: > Patrick, > > I discussed that BES cable run with Roman, but he didn't like the idea. >

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2016-06-28 Thread Tim Butterfield
Patrick, I discussed that BES cable run with Roman, but he didn't like the idea. Down tube shifters are now set as I have already okayed them ordering the 7900s. The tires on the build sheet I linked to are the Barlow Pass EL, 700x38, black. I'll be ordering those drop-shipped from Compass

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2016-06-28 Thread Tim Butterfield
René, You're right. Good catch. It is 11-36. That was in an email conversation I had with Roman, but didn't make it into my notes. Thanks. Tim On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 9:18 AM, René Sterental wrote: > Good! > > What 10 speed cassette is 12-36? I only recall seeing the

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2016-06-28 Thread Patrick Moore
Tim -- Just in case it's a new idea, know that you can run your BES housing along the bar and under the tape, and have it come out near the stem. That's what I've done, and I've not found that it degrades shifting (9 sp friction). Your build looks "fun". Please post the statutory photos when you

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2016-06-28 Thread René Sterental
Good! What 10 speed cassette is 12-36? I only recall seeing the 11-36, which is what I'm using (Shimano XT). René On Tuesday, June 28, 2016, Ryan Fleming wrote: > wellseems to be coming along nicely > > On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 2:03:50 AM UTC-5, Tim

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2016-06-28 Thread Ryan Fleming
wellseems to be coming along nicely On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 2:03:50 AM UTC-5, Tim Butterfield wrote: > > Hi, All. > > Since there was interest in it, I wanted to post a progress update and > build sheet. At almost a month after ordering, the frame should be well > along in the queue

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2016-06-28 Thread Tim Butterfield
Hi, All. Since there was interest in it, I wanted to post a progress update and build sheet. At almost a month after ordering, the frame should be well along in the queue by now. The build components are well settled and the part allocations, orders, and accumulations are in process. Gearing

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2016-06-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 06/05/2016 06:00 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: Steve P.- Maybe, probably, this should be a new thread, but I have a thought about centerpulls: I had the Compass centerpulls put on my new MAP. They squealed so bad that heads would snap toward me when I braked. It was really

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2016-06-05 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Steve P.- Maybe, probably, this should be a new thread, but I have a thought about centerpulls: I had the Compass centerpulls put on my new MAP. They squealed so bad that heads would snap toward me when I braked. It was really unpleasant. I asked on the ibob list and got the suggestion of

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2016-06-05 Thread Tim Butterfield
Joe, Thanks for the opinion. It would be good for it not to be beausaged already when I finally got it home. I'm not sure road beausage counts anyway. That seems more like damage. :) Now that I think about it, having and using a good receiver hitch mount on the back of the RV might be a

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2016-06-05 Thread Joe Bernard
Tim, picking up the bike in person would be fun, but personally I wouldn't do it unless I could roll it safely into the back of a van and away from debris and cars. Later after it's been ridden and beausaged a bit? -- Sure, no problem. Brand spanking new? -- Not gonna happen. Rivendell does a

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