I feel the same way about the 1973 Motobecane Grand Record: wonderful bike;
tho' my two Riv Customs are even nicer in handling and, of course, in every
other way.
Re the Sam Hill: I bought it (1) as a touring bike and (2) as an all rounder
for those times when I want to go further or steeper than
Like these but BLACK:
http://aebike.com/product/axiom-dutch-shopper-pannier-set-rust-sku-bg6679-qc30.htm
Mounted but never used.
$45 shipped CONUS.
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I get a similar reaction when people ask, about one of my Rivs, the commuter
with hammered Honjos, How *old* is that bike!!?? and I reply, Hmm,
lessee, 2003?
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:43 PM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote:
on 6/28/10 1:29 PM, juarez at juarez@gmail.com wrote:
Guys,
My knee went out about 5 years ago and my cycling days are over. So
I'm going through my old stuff and came up with two wool Riv jerseys
unworn. a long sleeve Riv cotton shirt and a cap. (only selling one
jersey for now)
The items are up on Ebay. I hope a RBW member gets them.
Anyway,
Very sorry to hear about your knee.
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:10 PM, lukethedrifter1 pobox4...@gmail.comwrote:
Guys,
My knee went out about 5 years ago and my cycling days are over. So
I'm going through my old stuff and came up with two wool Riv jerseys
unworn. a long sleeve Riv cotton
Only once in ten years of riding the Bertin have I dismounted after
a ride and not said to myself, boy, I love this bike.
What went wrong that one time?
On Jun 28, 8:43 pm, Don Genovese dgen...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that my greatest disappointment has been, after the floppiness
and
juarez wrote, in part:
...While I understand that a Riv owner might experience some
consternation that their expensive bike might be mistaken for a less
expensive older model, I don't think one can really fault a casual
observer. After all, Rivendells do look like older bikes in many ways
-- it's
I am interested in getting this combo, but I was wondering about your
comment re: dirty shoes. I've noticed that when I put a Sigg bottle in
my Nitto stainless cages there are stains from the contact, so I'm
wondering does stainless steel also stain shoes, or is that ONLY with
the Ti?
I went through the same search a few months ago. The only non-Shimano
solution I found was Stronglight. Campy triples are not external
bearing designs. I missed the Truvativ. Stronglight is tough to find;
I ended up buying mine from xxcycle.com in France. I have no
complaints with the crank or
I have been looking at them. Bruce Gordon has a nifty package that includes
the pedals and a stainless steel or titanium toe clip. But a pair costs
$250.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:40 AM, dos.ruedas rhizomic.upris...@gmail.comwrote:
I am interested in getting this combo, but I was wondering
If no one else does in the meantime, I will send the pedal dimensions
tonight. The Whites are not tiny by any standard.
On Jun 28, 11:40 pm, dos.ruedas rhizomic.upris...@gmail.com wrote:
I am interested in getting this combo, but I was wondering about your
comment re: dirty shoes. I've noticed
I shouldn't think he was referring to the Bridgestone Atlantis--pretty sure it
was a Japan/home only product.
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Is there an advantage to external bearings that make it worth fighting
through proprietary design issues?
On Jun 28, 10:36 pm, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
I am getting a new road frame and I would like to try an external
bearing BB. But I want a triple. The only one I've found is
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/317/original_grim_three.jpg
I think the above URL should be changed from grim to grime!
I like getting my bikes dirty, but it is not alot of work to clean
them afterward.
Drivetrain grime especially gets in the way of crisp shifting.
And I paid a
I don't ride much in rain or mud, so my bikes get dirty mostly with dust
(8-9 annual rainfall here in high desert NM), and while I keep the
drivetrains very clean, I give them a bath only once or twice a year (unless
I get caught in rain).
But baths are easy: put stand by hose, put bike in stand,
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/317/original_grim_three.jpg
I think the above URL should be changed from grim to grime!
I like getting my bikes dirty, but it is not alot of work to clean
them afterward.
Drivetrain grime
One morning I arrived at RBW HQ slightly earlier than I had planned.
It was before they openned. There were Mark, Robert and Vaughn, all
three of them taking turns with the bucket and brush. They were
brushing and chatting with a familiarity and nonchalance that reminds
you of the glimpses of
I don't ride much in rain or mud, so my bikes get dirty mostly with dust
(8-9 annual rainfall here in high desert NM),
Northern Cali is pretty dry for about 9 months every year. I imagine
GP's bikes have dust, not grime on them. Provided GP is doing a good
job lubing the moving part (and I
Only once in ten years of riding the Bertin have I dismounted after
a ride and not said to myself, boy, I love this bike.
What went wrong that one time?
You had to ask, huh. I rolled a sew-up, I think, and went down hard. I don't
remember that event or the next ten days. I only
Jim has been kind enough to let me send another test message.
Jim, thanks for all your suggestions and help.
Richard
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On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:57 PM, CycloFiend wrote:
enjoy!
Thanks, I did!
I love that landscape. Gotta get down there again some day.
Rob in Seattle
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Good for Chole
My Daughter is 7 and is just getting comfortable on the bike, she
prefers her Razor, so this is a ways off for me but I imagine I will
have the same mix of pride and anxiety. I am thinking back but I may
have soloed by 8 or so in my Suburban Portland 'hood.
On Jun 28, 3:27 pm,
Big step! Congrats to all. We're still a few years away from that
Rob in Seattle
On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:23 PM, S.Cutshall wrote:
Our daughter, Chloe, has been asking both me my wife about our first
solo rides as kids. This all started easily enough, I didn't -for
one- see where she was
Fantastic--thanks for sharing that. We had a similar experience with
our boy, who is now seven. He started out at four or so on a Skuut,
which is the $89 version of the nice wooden bikes I first saw in the
Riv Reader. The lack of steering lock is a real boon. He LOVED that
thing! When he
I'm sure they don't help the aerodynamic drag one bit; although I
didn't notice it.
I suppose if they are catching all the water, they are probably
catching some of the air too.
Angus
On Jun 28, 8:11 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm using SKS P65s on Schwalbe Marathon 26x1.75s.
In my prior life in Los Angeles I descended Palos Verdes Blvd East, a
reasonable quick winding road behind another rider. PV East always
was a challenging road due to the corners...and guard rails...and
trees...and drops...I loved it.
At the roll out at the bottom of the descent I pulled up next
on 6/29/10 7:43 AM, Mojo at gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/317/original_grim_three.jpg
I think the above URL should be changed from grim to grime!
I like getting my bikes dirty, but it is not alot of work to clean
them afterward.
Drivetrain grime
Stronglight makes 130/74 triples w/OBB as stated.
http://www.stronglight.com/stronglight/page.php?nom=produitkeyProd=zlightactivlinktri
Under the Strong Tech head, go to chainline and Q factor for specs.
Surly Mr. Whirly. With a 47.5mm chainline spindle it's a 166mm Q.
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Awesome post Jim, when I am on a ride and get frustrated that I am
not going faster or climbing better etc I try to remember - dude you
are on a bike ride smile! I love that kids get this Intuitively.
Mojo
Its tough, I got a free bike and removed the pedals and lowered the
seat to make a
I'm rather surprised by your comment that you've never ridden your
LongLow no-hands. I own an originally purchased 65 cm Rivendell Road
Standard, which has virtually identical geometry to the LongLow, with
the exception of the longer chainstays on the LongLow and (possibly) a
higher sloping head
Brass won't rust, it's made from copper and zinc. To keep it looking
good, use Brasso, a liquid in a small can, found at hardware stores.
It makes a great polish for non anodized Aluminum also.
As far as looks when it comes to bikes ... you've got no one to
please but yourself. You may or
I'm getting videos from RBW, where did they come from? I can't seem to delete
them?
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You had to ask, huh. I rolled a sew-up,
Sorry.
I am building up a late 70s style race bike for fun. I am tempted to
use sew ups, but given my complete lack of experience, stories such as
yours have me thinking maybe not.
Glad you are still with us and riding.
On Jun 29, 10:42 am, Don
I really don't get all the concerns about the geometry of Rivendells
that are sometimes expressed on this, and other (e.g.i-BOB) forums.
The geometries aren't all that different from some of the classic road
bikes of the 1970-80's (my 1977 Schwinn Paramount is fairly similar,
for example).
I look at Grant's bikes and think there is a bike that's put to good
and proper use. Clean bikes look nice and all, but if it's between
cleaning a bike and getting out for a ride I'd rather go for a ride.
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I look at Grant's bikes and think there is a bike that's put to good
and proper use. Clean bikes look nice and all, but if it's between
cleaning a bike and getting out for a ride I'd rather go for a ride.
Ditto. And if it's
Another one who rarely cleans the bike. Sure if I'm working on it in
the stand it might get a rub down. But only if I feel it needs it.
That A Homer Hilsen looks a lot nicer than my Sam Hillborne.
Funny, when I was a youngster, was sort of obsessive about cleaning
things. Now with middle age,
So you all confirmed what I already suspected, I am the strange one.
But western Colorado is not alot different than Northern California
with lots of summer dust.
And its alot like Albuquerque here too with the dust intermixed with
big monsoonal heavy rains.
I can't remember the last time I used
Bike cleaning? What is that of which you speak? Is that something
more than dripping Prolink on the chain and wiping the rims? :)
Ryan
On Jun 29, 12:19 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
So you all confirmed what I already suspected, I am the strange one.
But western Colorado is not alot
Here's a pic of the Whites with the BG steel clips on my Quickbeam:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542...@n04/4411496143/sizes/l/in/photostream/ .
I found the BG clips so large (leaving my foot so far forward on the pedal)
that I had very significant toe clip overlap, so I took the clips off.
Sugino makes the Alpina in an external BB I thought.
On Jun 29, 12:30 pm, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:
Stronglight makes 130/74 triples w/OBB as
stated.http://www.stronglight.com/stronglight/page.php?nom=produitkeyProd=z...
Under the Strong Tech head, go to chainline and Q factor for
So everytime I ride (daily), inevitably at some point in my trip, I
will hear a velcro-ripping sound that seems like it coming from under
my SKS front fender. I always look to see if i just ran over
something, a pile of leaves or whatever, but nada. Nothing seems to
spit oout. Not that I would
I've been getting really tolerant of slop, and it's gotten beyond just the
cleanliness. My Ram is currently not only dirty, but the indexing (9-speed
rear) seems a bit off, but I don't care enough to fix it. And I'm not putting
it in friction mode either! What's going on is that the bike will
I'd hazard a guess that it's small pebbles/debris being carried up under your
fender by your tire. I put fenders on a friend's Waterford for him some years
ago and the first time it made that noise I was riding next to him and he
fairly levitated off the bike with a very alarmed WHAT WAS
Odd, when I see pics of Grant's bike[s]... if they are especially
crusty-looking, I always end up emailing him and asking for him to
sell me one.
Something about 'well used' gets me excited... I think it translates
to Patina of Love. Better said, Use equals Love, Use is Patina...
so, Patina of
Yup. It¹s a piece of gravel picked up by the tire and rolled between the
tire and the inner surface of the fender until it¹s spit out at the top.
Happens to me much more often when it¹s hot out ‹ I assume because the hot
tar on the road makes everything more sticky, so the tire¹s more likely to
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 4:22 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
Odd, when I see pics of Grant's bike[s]... if they are especially
crusty-looking, I always end up emailing him and asking for him to
sell me one.
Something about 'well used' gets me excited... I think it translates
to
But western Colorado is not alot different than Northern California
with lots of summer dust.
And its alot like Albuquerque here too with the dust intermixed with
big monsoonal heavy rains.
How can western Colorado be like Northern Cali and Albuquerque at the
same time? When it cools down in
Perhaps you should try a smaller size toe clip???
The White pedals extend forward from the pedal spindle about 3/8 to 1/2
further than a traditional old Campagnolo Pedal.
I run White Pedals and my strapless clips on my city bikes - there is no
easier combination to get in and out of than that set
I found the BG clips so large (leaving my foot so far forward on the pedal)
that I had very significant toe clip overlap,
so I took the clips off.
BG clip comes in three sizes.
But with the clips off I didn't like the Whites as much, so I'm now using
Tioga Spyder pedals that Riv used to
Naw, he won't touch this subject via email with me... I think it
concerns him that a floodgate would be opened: in a few years people
would pester him, and eventually he'd have only new -clean- bikes in
his garage. And eBay would be loaded with Rivendell's Grant
Petersen's OWN Personal Bike type
My recollection from riding across Colorado is that the western part is all at
altitude (5,000 feet and up). NorCal (at least, the part near Sacramento that I
live in) is about 50 feet above sea level. We don't get nearly as much snow as
they do ;-)
--Eric
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On Jun 29, 2010,
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/317/original_grim_three.jpg
Check out Grant's camera strap! Smart design. I've been one to just
hang the single strap over my neck or across on shoulder-over-my-neck
combo. Grants strap seems like a reliable strap. Hope this becomes a
Rivendell product!
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Check out today's post on the Riv website for Grant's comments on
dependent vs independent variables in bike design. While he sorta
apologizes for the tone, I find it quite direct and to the point.
Look folks, here's the bits that matter the rest are the result.
Makes sense to me. One of the
Pretty sure that is a store- bought strap. Check out your local
outdoor retailer, camera shop, or REI-- one of them should know what
you are looking for and may have it in stock.
Cheers!
cm
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So do these pedals definitely work with the Power Grips that RBW
sells? That would be the ideal option for me at $50 cheaper than BG
clips, stain-free and more 'flexible' than any clips.
On Jun 29, 4:30 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
I found the BG clips so large (leaving my foot
So the new (larger size) Bullmoose bars are in stock at Riv in limited
colors. I can't use the larger size but maybe someone here would be
into them.
If anyone has a current one but would rather have one of these let me
know and I will buy your older one off you. :)
I'm sure that the strap in the photo that Grant is using is available
from various sources. Your can find one here, for example:
http://www.adorama.com/OTBCHE.html. The camera that he's using, on
the other hand, might be more difficult to pick up. It's a classic
Leica M3 rangefinder 35mm
I'm more curious about why he seems to be wearing a watch on each arm.
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:58:55 -0700
Subject: [RBW] Re: Grant super slick Camera strap!
From: cloud...@aol.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
I'm sure that the strap in the photo that Grant is using is
Heart monitor. He's bloggered about it before.
On Jun 29, 7:01 pm, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote:
I'm more curious about why he seems to be wearing a watch on each arm.
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 15:58:55 -0700
Subject: [RBW] Re: Grant super slick Camera strap!
From:
I'm shocked you haven't started getting the same emails since you
retired BBC #1!
Seeing his AHH just makes me want one even more.
On Jun 29, 4:33 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
Naw, he won't touch this subject via email with me... I think it
concerns him that a floodgate would be
On Jun 29, 4:38 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm shocked you haven't started getting the same emails since you
retired BBC #1!
Oddly, I have had 5 offers for it since I put up the post here, and
the fotorial over @The Flickr's.
The last offer was from a fellow in Japan, and
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote:
I'm sure that the strap in the photo that Grant is using is available
from various sources. Your can find one here, for example:
http://www.adorama.com/OTBCHE.html. The camera that he's using, on
the other hand, might be
Thomas,
You are correct that I bought the 48 mm fluted. In the rear they fit
with about 1mm to spare between the chainstays. The 52 mm zeppelins
would require bending to get them to fit in that location. They may
fit between the seat stays and fork crown as is.
-Mike
Bellbrook, OH
On Jun 26,
White pedal dimensions - 8.5 cm wide x 7.5 cm long. With the large
Gordon half clip I have almost 14 cm.
So do these pedals definitely work with the Power Grips that RBW
sells?
I do not own Power Grips but cannot think of why they would not work
with the White Ind. pedals. The pedals have a
The last offer was from a fellow in Japan, and he offered just a touch
over 3x's what I paid to have it made...
Wow. Power of the internet!!
On Jun 29, 6:49 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 29, 4:38 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm shocked you haven't
With Hunqapillar time just around the corner, I have to think that a
new batch of the short-reaches are on the way, too (I hope.)
On Jun 29, 6:27 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:
So the new (larger size) Bullmoose bars are in stock at Riv in limited
colors. I can't use the
Looks like a Zeiss Ikon to me:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/361524-REG/Zeiss_1365_576_Ikon_35mm_Rangefinder_Camera.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/361524-REG/Zeiss_1365_576_Ikon_35mm_Rangefinder_Camera.html
-Jason
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com
I'm rather surprised by your comment that you've never ridden your
LongLow no-hands.
I really don't get all the concerns about the geometry of Rivendells
that are sometimes expressed on this, and other (e.g.i-BOB) forums.
The geometries aren't all that different from some of the
I am building up a late 70s style race bike for fun. I am tempted to
use sew ups, but given my complete lack of experience, stories such as
yours have me thinking maybe not.
Glad you are still with us and riding.
Thank you. I'm still riding sew-ups on the Bertin, only now I make
Is the following set-up something to consider?
http://interlocracing.com/triplizer.html
Don't know how well the set-up works. Perhaps other members will have
some feedback.
On Jun 29, 2:31 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:
Sugino makes the Alpina in an external BB I thought.
Not sure it's a store-bought. Look at the right lug, appears it's a
tie down. Might be hissown version of the store bought one.
Will agree with the Zeiss Icon camera, maybe Voightlander lens (their
lens cover) and maybe an old Minolta CLE grip. The last I'm not
positive on, but did have
They have the shorter ones in stock right now but they have not been
finished yet. I would still prefer a first gen raw one though so I am
not giving up.
I was also posting this just so everyone that might be interested
would see them.
On Jun 29, 8:56 pm, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote:
With
Well, external bearings are often marketed based on larger (stronger
bearings) and, for lack of a better term, the wide stance that makes
the BB stiffer. There's probably a weight savings, too. But for me the
greatest advantage is that I can remove and reinstall the crank with a
5 mm allen wrench
But for me the greatest advantage is that I can remove and reinstall the
crank with a
5 mm allen wrench (also helps to have the little black wheel from the
Park BBT-9 for the bearing preload, but that's not absolutely
necessary).
That is a definitely a point in external bb favor. Can see
Stopped at my LBS on the way home from work today. Proprietor par
excellence advised me he should have three of the new (but based on a
long since discontinued design) Brooks saddles on the way.
He could not find any dimensions, but from the picture Brooks sent him
they look similar to the
Good news! Thanks!
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Agreed! What else more do you need to know then it rides well.
On Jun 29, 2:13 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
Check out today's post on the Riv website for Grant's comments on
dependent vs independent variables in bike design. While he sorta
apologizes for the tone, I find it
My 3 year old loves his like - a- bike balance bike and rides it
everywhere. It is one serious machine it even has Schwalbe Big Apples.
One additon that made him like it even more was a Honka Hoota horn.
Rig content-- my 3 year old says when he is big he is going to get a
blue A Homer Hilsen and
My fenders are close, and if I hit a bump with a semi-significant load
(8 lbs?) in my front bag, the fender will vvvip on the tire. Mine
might sound different than yours, with aluminum fenders and mini-knobs
on the tire, but that sounds like what it is.
Rocks sound way different.
philip
97128
During our wet and grimy winter, my bikes only achieve a state of
less dirty. And by that I mean the Bleriot, because the Lemond
doesn't go out on very wet days...inadequate fenderage, no lighting,
etc.
If I return from the ride and the bike is filthy, I might gently hose
it off before putting
I, too, am a big believer in Skuuts. All three kids have used 'em so far,
you can flip the frame upside down to fit smaller kids, and they make
learning a big kid bike a breeze. I did still have to take off the pedals
when I moved the kids up to real bikes (they handle a bit differently), but
OK, I got it,
RBW = Rivendell Bike Washers Group!
-JimD
People, grab your brushes!
On Jun 29, 2010, at 9:35 AM, CycloFiend wrote:
on 6/29/10 7:43 AM, Mojo at gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/317/original_grim_three.jpg
I think the above URL should be
I've been looking more closely at the photo:
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/317/original_grim_three.jpg
I'm not as concerned about the bike as I am about the dirty feet that
all three of these folks are displaying.
-JimD
I don't mind if my bike gets dirty but clean feet are next
Thanks all. I'll take that little as another neat thing about
fenderage.
Ok..back to making my new summer mudflaps...seersucker, of
course..;)
On Jun 29, 8:08 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:
My fenders are close, and if I hit a bump with a semi-significant load
(8
Cleanliness is highly over-rated as a virtue. I don't always wash my
riding clothes that regularly either. As to the feet, well, they
clean up pretty good in the shower, no worries.
dougP
On Jun 29, 8:51 pm, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote:
I've been looking more closely at the photo:
Camera and strap specs:
Camera: Zeiss Ikon.
Camera fiends may also be interested to know that I own and shoot
Cosina-Voigtlander Bessa L, Bessa R, and Leica M4-P. The lens on the
camers is Voigtlander 40/1.4. The straps is homemade from two pieces
of 3/4-inch webbing. The one around my neck is
Thanks all for the thoughts and votes. Tell you what, though... turns
out I'm less interested in how things look than I thought. That is, I
really do like the look of aluminum, stainless steel, and brass
fenders (and the more I thought about it, the more I thought the brass
fenders would be a
Actually, in the wilds of my garage. I think it's snoozing in there.
I'll try to sneak up on it and get a few pictures over the next few
days. I understand they may be a little twitchy. But that shouldn't be
a problem with this one yet; it's got no wheels! Even I should be able
to sneak up on it.
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