Re: [RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
Well, I just measured saddle setback and found it fully a cm or more back than my already far back normal measurement of 3 1/2 (71* sa instead of my others' 73) and I changed that. I'll see what a bit more forward does. And, I adjusted the wheel circumference measurement; not by a huge amount but probably by 3% which will make about half a mph at 16-19 mph cruising speeds. And, probably, the front and rear panniers make a difference in the breezes we always have (they were unladen today). On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: yea... If that was a 58 I'd be all over it. Hill or no hill. Patrick, as another Hillborne owner I am having the opposite expereince with mine. It seems really fast for a bike with 38mm tires ( Marathon Racers). I'm very happy with the ride and handling of the bike. ~Mike~ On Jul 16, 7:20 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll vote yes. I saved this from a long slow rusty death years ago and made it my single speed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027...@n00/4800182153/#/photos/4202757... Although I have not used it much since picking up a Rivendell, I am glad I have it. I routinely rode it up a 15% (albeit short .25 mile) hill on my commutes home with a 42/17. Although the hills in and around Denver can get steep in places, it was still great for the majority of my riding. I could roll the flats at 20mph with a good spin, but still get up the hills without too much grunt. Plus, Kenneth nailed it on the Rohloff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How do you Southerners do this?
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:23 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Wednesday, it was hot and humid enough here in the Twin Cities I took the day off from riding. The dewpoint ended up at 77 degrees. Temp about 91 and heat index of 106. Although will admit we're usually not in the DC category. And that comes from having a couple of business trips out there in 2007 and 2008. no early start.) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN I also took Wednesday off from riding in the Twin Cities. It was just too hot and humid for me to ride. I actually much prefer riding in zero degree weather in the winter to hot humid days. Hot and not humid does not bother me as much. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Schwalbe Dureme Supply, and others
I've been trying to track down some 28x2.0 Duremes, and it seems even Schwalbe is out, and they have no idea when they'll be in stock again. . other than 8 weeks minimum. Not what I wanted to hear. So, I started looking outside the US, but only found one place that had modest shipping costs. This place is in Belgium. http://bike-parts.at-cost.org/tyres.html They seem to have all Schwalbe tires, including some XR's in 50-622. I'm not sure if I trust them or not, but I may place an order. They only take Paypal for US buyers. Shipping appears to be $20 for two tires. $40 for up to five. I thought I'd pass it along , as I know some have wanted some XR's . Buy at your own risk I suppose. But if you need some like I do . I don't know maybe. It appears legit, but don't they all. -cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How do you Southerners do this?
Michael: I live one block off the Pacific Hwy. in Montara, CA about 20 miles south of S.F. The temp here almost never gets above 70 degrees. San Diego has the most perfect weather in the entire USA. Beautiful any time of the year. I lived most of my life in New Orleans where the temp and humidity is unbearable much of the time. A bike ride May through September is like a swim in the Mississippi River. Once I got dehydrated and was hospitalized. Very hot weather is dangerous. On Jul 16, 6:48 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: It's been in the high 80's to mid 90s here in nothern VT for the past two weeks, with dew ponts around 70. I find I'm getting slower and slower. I keep topped up on fluids and electrolites, but I am finding myself feeling pretty fried. This mornings commute took about 20 -25% longer, just because ... well just because I went so much slower. I'm pretty good riding in temps between 15 - 85, but this is draining me. How do those of you from souther Cal, or NM do this? You must have to ride in this kind of weather for a big chunk of the year. Michael Westford, Vt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
There's always another frame. Wait until the bids are done, you may not feel so bad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Friday Mixed Terrain Ride Report
Looks like a great ride. Glad you're enjoying the bike and putting it to good use. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How do you Southerners do this?
I deal with it by taking a small towel and/or bandanna with me to wipe the sweat off. The towel works great for a quick stop to dry off, especially after a big hill, and I have lots of them around my home so I usually just end up holding the towel in my hands the whole time. I'm old school on drinks and foods. Melons. Honeydew and Crenshaw are favorites. I can eat one a day. They are perfect consumables for the heat and do well to replenish you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
You totally need it. Hope that helps. There are three roads to my house: 1) 18% 2) 14% 3) 13% The bike I road most is my quickbeam (fixed). Actually, some when last week I passed the 25,000 mile mark on the 'beam. Have to celebrate and treat it to a new handlebar wrap... but that harlekin wrap is just too pretty. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: I lived on a 15% grade for a while. Get the singlespeed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Silver shifter break apart diagram
I had that happen, I looked at the other one to figure it out. After I spent about half an hour finding the little spring on the carpet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Maximum Honjo fender size compatible with Silver Sidepull and/or Paul Racer brakes
So I am planning to purchase a betty foy and wanted to put Hetres on it. Did you find a problem with brake clearance and fenders large enough to accommodate the hetres? On Jun 24, 1:45 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting a Betty Foy for my daughters to ride (and me to use as well...), but the frame arrival is still 3+ weeks away... I decided to order red Hetre tires and their corresponding Honjo fenders, which upon arrival, happen to have a label that states they are 60mm (sold by BQ). It dawned on my, after talking with Keven, that the frame clearance wasn't going to be the issue, but the brake clearance. I'm going to measure the clearance that my Racer brakes have on my AHH, and I also have a spare set of Silver brakes that originally came with the AHH. Knowing that what I'll measure may not necessarily correlate to real-life use, I'm wondering if anyone here has had any experience with what the maximum clearance for Honjo fenders with these brakes will be. I know I'll be able to use the tires fenderless, and Keven thinks that the SKS fenders will probably fit as well. I was set on the Honjos, and the version BQ sells is very beautiful. I'd hate not to be able to use them. Thanks for any feedback! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
I just looked up something that I read in Frank Berto’s book: “With a cyclist’s entire weight on the pedal, the maximum rideable gear in inches is seven times the slope denominator. Thus, a 1-in-10 incline requires a 70-inch gear.” (In other words, on a 10 % slope, with all your weight on the pedal, and a 70-inch gear you would just be stationary. But in reality, if you pulled up on the handlebars, you could make a little progress. ) If I work things out correctly, a 15 % grade would be 1-in-6.67. Using the formula above, this would give a maximum usable gear of 7 X 6.67 = 46.7 gear inches. ( That’s the maximum usable gear, not that it would be a fun ride. ) I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. But I can say, in my experience, riding a single-speed bike will gradually make you a better climber, so that after maybe six months or a year, you can go up hills quicker and easier than you would have done previously in a lower gear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Supply, and others
catchy web address name. It seems lately with the Pound and Euro down against the dollar that buying from Europe is much more commonplace. I have done it many times. ~Mike~ On Jul 16, 11:06 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to track down some 28x2.0 Duremes, and it seems even Schwalbe is out, and they have no idea when they'll be in stock again. . other than 8 weeks minimum. Not what I wanted to hear. So, I started looking outside the US, but only found one place that had modest shipping costs. This place is in Belgium.http://bike-parts.at-cost.org/tyres.html They seem to have all Schwalbe tires, including some XR's in 50-622. I'm not sure if I trust them or not, but I may place an order. They only take Paypal for US buyers. Shipping appears to be $20 for two tires. $40 for up to five. I thought I'd pass it along , as I know some have wanted some XR's . Buy at your own risk I suppose. But if you need some like I do . I don't know maybe. It appears legit, but don't they all. -cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] S24O: tent or no tent?
So tent or no tent for an S24O? This is actually more of a +24O where I'm gonna do approx 60 miles the first day and maybe 100+ the second day, taking in SW portions of the Mt Hood National Forest. I'm tentatively planning on camping by a lake so I'm thinking there's gonna be mosquitos so I'm thinking I might want my tent... well, and it is OR, so rain is always a possibility... I like the idea of nixing the tent as I could just carry everything in my Carradice Nelson LF and a medium Wald basket up front. Just kind of curious what people think. Obviously if there's any chance of rain in the forecast I'll take the tent. Tentative plan is to do this ride over two days as opposed to one day which totally wrecked me last year. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157621778650380/ Riv content: I'm gonna ride my Hilsen. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How do you Southerners do this?
At about 3:00 AM this morning I realized that the absence of home AC is probably a big difference between VT NM. I estimate that I've lost the equivalent of 2 hours sleep every night for the past two weeks. Hard to recover from that and feel like yourself on a bicycle. michael On Jul 16, 10:48 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Shoot, swamp coolers don't work well unless the humidity is under 20%, and one does notice 20%; I've seen it as low as 4%, lower than the Sahara, and sub 10% is common, but, really, 20% is quite bearable. Now 30% I was born in the WDC area and moved back there for five years in 1984, so I know the climate. I remember thinking that, in summer, when the humidity dropped into the 30s on a hot afternoon, it felt dry. And I remember 85 degree mornings with 90 percent humidity. Much prefer an oven. On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 13:22 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: It's when the humidity soars to over 20% that things get unbearable. ^ That really is funny. Only a desert dweller would have come up with that. Do we EVER have humidity as low as 20% here in the DC area? Right now, it's 97 degrees with 38% humidity. By 3 am, it's supposed to get down to a mere 81 degrees with 69% humidity. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 6:56 PM, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: But I can say, in my experience, riding a single-speed bike will gradually make you a better climber, so that after maybe six months or a year, you can go up hills quicker and easier than you would have done previously in a lower gear. I've found this too, to the extent that, trying to twiddle up the same hills in a granny gear on the Sam Hill, my only multispeed bike, I very quickly get winded; odd to discover that. I have to upshift and pedal harder to get my breath back. (Tho' of course there is a measure here; unwarmed up, on a hot day, facing a 1/2 mile long steep hill, it certainly feels nice to have, say, a 52 gear instead of a 67; even when the 31 is too low -- 36X19, 46X19, 36X32.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
First, I'd get a cassette hub instead of a fw hub; much easier to find replacement clusters. Perhaps others know something I don't and fws are easier to find that I know, but one certainly sees more ads for cassettes than for fws. As to PW quality: My 1999 custom Joe Starck road fixied turned 10,000 miles not too long ago -- I found that the Avocet 35 had been stuck at 9,999 for some time, so I don't know how long ago -- and the Phil rear hub and the Phil bb are as new, to tell by their smoothness. Of course, the old SunTour cartridge front and the Tange RollerBall headseat are also as new On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.netwrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] S24O: tent or no tent?
I've never used a tent on S24Os, but don't live in OR... try leaving it if the forecast is solid. On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So tent or no tent for an S24O? This is actually more of a +24O where I'm gonna do approx 60 miles the first day and maybe 100+ the second day, taking in SW portions of the Mt Hood National Forest. I'm tentatively planning on camping by a lake so I'm thinking there's gonna be mosquitos so I'm thinking I might want my tent... well, and it is OR, so rain is always a possibility... I like the idea of nixing the tent as I could just carry everything in my Carradice Nelson LF and a medium Wald basket up front. Just kind of curious what people think. Obviously if there's any chance of rain in the forecast I'll take the tent. Tentative plan is to do this ride over two days as opposed to one day which totally wrecked me last year. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157621778650380/ Riv content: I'm gonna ride my Hilsen. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: How do you Southerners do this?
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 8:38 AM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: At about 3:00 AM this morning I realized that the absence of home AC is probably a big difference between VT NM. I estimate that I've lost the equivalent of 2 hours sleep every night for the past two weeks. Hard to recover from that and feel like yourself on a bicycle. I know that feeling; long ago, used to suffer from insomnia but, now, thank God, I usually sleep very well. Fortunately I have refrigerated air and I keep the thermostat at a 24/7 76F -- cheaper that way and thus more energy efficient; highest bill, last month's with 10 to 14 days of near 100F cost me $63 and change for a 1250 sq ft house -- and have ceiling fans in every room. If you have shade and a bit of breeze -- typical -- here in the desert, and it is not the rainy season, you will be comfortable at 80+ thanks to sweat evaporation. My mother's house, shaded by trees from the south, is cool until 4 or 5 pm -- one finds a house hottest at the first part of after-dark as the house radiates it's peak heat. My pear tree is a baby so my house gets much hotter. But even dry heat will get you down if you push yourself too hard, as I found out early this season. Patrick master of the subordinate clause Moore -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
On Jul 16, 5:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. phil hubs are great. and so are white industries' and chris king's. but so are shimano's. if you work on your own stuff, it might simply be a question of whether you prefer sealed bearings or repacking the hub. both are pretty easy to work on. phil's are blingy, so there are points for that if it matters to you. is it a big upgrade from, let's say shimano ultegra to phil? i say no. the money saved can go elsewhere on the bike. regarding, freewheels - you should consider what kind of drivetrain you want to use. If you're in love with 6 or 7 speed friction shifting and sourcing your favorite freewheels, then by all means, go with the phil. if not, then stick with modern hubs and cassettes. have fun. sounds like it will be a great bike! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
You're on target about upgrading wheels. I have two bikes with Phil Wood freewheel hubs. Other than a polish now and then I haven't touched them in twelve years! Freewheel hubs are less expensive than the cassette hubs and there still seems to be a good availability of freewheels. Unless the Phils will break you I would bite the bullet and get them. You'll never have to even think about hubs again. On Jul 16, 2:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent?
If mosquitos are a significant concern, I'd suggest that you carry a tent. Most of my camping experiences (backpacking and bicycle touring) have included a tent. I've always had a small backpacking tent which was lightweight and easy to carry (currently an older Sierra Designs Flashlight model, which weighs slightly over 3 lbs.). Having mosquitos hungrily humming around your exposed body is not a nice way to experience the great outdoors! Depending on where you plan to camp, a tent also gives you a bit of privacy. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jul 17, 7:27 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So tent or no tent for an S24O? This is actually more of a +24O where I'm gonna do approx 60 miles the first day and maybe 100+ the second day, taking in SW portions of the Mt Hood National Forest. I'm tentatively planning on camping by a lake so I'm thinking there's gonna be mosquitos so I'm thinking I might want my tent... well, and it is OR, so rain is always a possibility... I like the idea of nixing the tent as I could just carry everything in my Carradice Nelson LF and a medium Wald basket up front. Just kind of curious what people think. Obviously if there's any chance of rain in the forecast I'll take the tent. Tentative plan is to do this ride over two days as opposed to one day which totally wrecked me last year. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157621778650380/ Riv content: I'm gonna ride my Hilsen. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent?
I'm with Jim. Weather- and weight-wise there's no reason to carry a tent this time of year around here, but i'd do it just for the bugs after dark. When shopping for a family tent earlier this year, my 2 main criteria were very good ventilation for hot buggy nights, and full coverage with the rain fly (because when it does rain on me camping, it seems to come sideways). -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: If mosquitos are a significant concern, I'd suggest that you carry a tent. Most of my camping experiences (backpacking and bicycle touring) have included a tent. I've always had a small backpacking tent which was lightweight and easy to carry (currently an older Sierra Designs Flashlight model, which weighs slightly over 3 lbs.). Having mosquitos hungrily humming around your exposed body is not a nice way to experience the great outdoors! Depending on where you plan to camp, a tent also gives you a bit of privacy. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Jul 17, 7:27 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So tent or no tent for an S24O? This is actually more of a +24O where I'm gonna do approx 60 miles the first day and maybe 100+ the second day, taking in SW portions of the Mt Hood National Forest. I'm tentatively planning on camping by a lake so I'm thinking there's gonna be mosquitos so I'm thinking I might want my tent... well, and it is OR, so rain is always a possibility... I like the idea of nixing the tent as I could just carry everything in my Carradice Nelson LF and a medium Wald basket up front. Just kind of curious what people think. Obviously if there's any chance of rain in the forecast I'll take the tent. Tentative plan is to do this ride over two days as opposed to one day which totally wrecked me last year. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157621778650380/ Riv content: I'm gonna ride my Hilsen. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
I love mine, five or 6 speeds in the rear is all I seem to need. I think with the Foy you can get a dishless 7 speed wheel build that will be very strong and last a very long time as others have stated. If you are heavy or plan to load the rear the benifits of added strength and even spoke length are enough to sway the decision for me. Yes there are other makers of nice hubs, but the Phil freewheels hit a sweet spot for me. Plus they look really cool Rob On Jul 16, 2:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
i would get a non budget shimano wheelset. those hubs last a long time, and with the money you save, you can afford to outfit your bike with all the racks and bags you will need. jamison On Jul 17, 11:30 am, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: I love mine, five or 6 speeds in the rear is all I seem to need. I think with the Foy you can get a dishless 7 speed wheel build that will be very strong and last a very long time as others have stated. If you are heavy or plan to load the rear the benifits of added strength and even spoke length are enough to sway the decision for me. Yes there are other makers of nice hubs, but the Phil freewheels hit a sweet spot for me. Plus they look really cool Rob On Jul 16, 2:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivendell as a beater bike?
Grant's new post intrigued some thoughts within my weary brain. Found on the Rivendell site. Now almost every bike abovet $300 has a shock fork and almost no bike below a Surly is steel. Fuji has one. Raleigh has eleven. Raleigh's slogan in the ancient days, way before mom and dad met, was The All- Steel Bicycle, and I think Raleigh now is trying to recapture the spirit, maybe. It would be so easy to tig-weld a cheap bike that was Affordable Yet Fully Wholeheartedly Endorseable, but we're locked in to lugs, and it's staying that way. Over the years we've talked a little about making a Super Cheap with lugs, but the lower limit isn't all that low, because the labor is so much more intensive. It makes some sense, though. Everybody needs a beater and too many people are afraid to make their Rivbike into the bike they can lock outside the movie theater or bookstore for a few hours. I'm thinking of a way to do it, and it's not looking likely, but it's not been ruled out yet, either, and it's not a front-burner project. I will get to it if at all in many moons. I for one love my bleriot. The ride and the functionally has far surpassed my expectations. I make it my bike to do anything with, short of fast road rides( more because I'm not strong enough and I'm too stubborn to leave the carradice bag at home). Over the course of a half of year after owning my bleriot this bike has turned into some what a beater in a sense that I don't mind leaving it outside out at a farmers market locked with an irish strap. My nicks and scratches have far pass the point of beasuage and the low model campy components aren't holding up well because of the abused/misuse. But I don't feel bad for that I'm using the bike for it's purposes despite being a covet Rivendell Bike. Just curious of how others treat their rivendells? Are they really used to their full potential? Or locked away shameless in the garage because of their face value? -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?
From a list member I recently purchased an SS coupled Rambouillet. The bike was used quite a bit and came to me with numerous paint chips. But it still looks damn good in its green and cream paint. I took on its first trip of 500 miles a few weeks ago. Packed in the case, unpacked it and indeed it came back with some new chips in the paint. Off to Walgreens to find the closest nail polish. I swear the bike must now have 30 or so dabs of polish to cover the many little flaws. Still rides like a dream and looks good from 5 feet away. On Jul 17, 9:08 am, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Grant's new post intrigued some thoughts within my weary brain. Found on the Rivendell site. Now almost every bike abovet $300 has a shock fork and almost no bike below a Surly is steel. Fuji has one. Raleigh has eleven. Raleigh's slogan in the ancient days, way before mom and dad met, was The All- Steel Bicycle, and I think Raleigh now is trying to recapture the spirit, maybe. It would be so easy to tig-weld a cheap bike that was Affordable Yet Fully Wholeheartedly Endorseable, but we're locked in to lugs, and it's staying that way. Over the years we've talked a little about making a Super Cheap with lugs, but the lower limit isn't all that low, because the labor is so much more intensive. It makes some sense, though. Everybody needs a beater and too many people are afraid to make their Rivbike into the bike they can lock outside the movie theater or bookstore for a few hours. I'm thinking of a way to do it, and it's not looking likely, but it's not been ruled out yet, either, and it's not a front-burner project. I will get to it if at all in many moons. I for one love my bleriot. The ride and the functionally has far surpassed my expectations. I make it my bike to do anything with, short of fast road rides( more because I'm not strong enough and I'm too stubborn to leave the carradice bag at home). Over the course of a half of year after owning my bleriot this bike has turned into some what a beater in a sense that I don't mind leaving it outside out at a farmers market locked with an irish strap. My nicks and scratches have far pass the point of beasuage and the low model campy components aren't holding up well because of the abused/misuse. But I don't feel bad for that I'm using the bike for it's purposes despite being a covet Rivendell Bike. Just curious of how others treat their rivendells? Are they really used to their full potential? Or locked away shameless in the garage because of their face value? -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: found on the interwebs: SRAM Rival 170mm 110bcd Compact double crankset
Hi Jeremy, here's a pic of the chainline: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4801716397/ On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Hey David, what are your chainlines with this crankset? On Jul 16, 8:10 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Nice set of 110bcd cranks. I have a sethttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2362969780/, and really like recommend them. Finish is nice although a bit delicate. Rings are really good though. This is in the NLA polished finish. They're black now. If you can get over the outboard bearings, they're really good cranks. http://www.ediscountbike.com/SRAM-Rival-Compact-Crankset/Cranks-Botto... No affiliation/connection/kickback/shadiness with retailer. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
Yes, they are worth it - if you like stuff that will out live you that you can pass on to a special person. IRD makes great freewheels and parts. On Jul 16, 2:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?
I thought Grant's little musings were nice -and reassuring given my recent Bleriot purchase - but I wonder if he's being obtuse and purposefully ignoring the Velo-Orange Polyvalent or finds something seriously wrong with it. On Jul 17, 12:08 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Grant's new post intrigued some thoughts within my weary brain. Found on the Rivendell site. Now almost every bike abovet $300 has a shock fork and almost no bike below a Surly is steel. Fuji has one. Raleigh has eleven. Raleigh's slogan in the ancient days, way before mom and dad met, was The All- Steel Bicycle, and I think Raleigh now is trying to recapture the spirit, maybe. It would be so easy to tig-weld a cheap bike that was Affordable Yet Fully Wholeheartedly Endorseable, but we're locked in to lugs, and it's staying that way. Over the years we've talked a little about making a Super Cheap with lugs, but the lower limit isn't all that low, because the labor is so much more intensive. It makes some sense, though. Everybody needs a beater and too many people are afraid to make their Rivbike into the bike they can lock outside the movie theater or bookstore for a few hours. I'm thinking of a way to do it, and it's not looking likely, but it's not been ruled out yet, either, and it's not a front-burner project. I will get to it if at all in many moons. I for one love my bleriot. The ride and the functionally has far surpassed my expectations. I make it my bike to do anything with, short of fast road rides( more because I'm not strong enough and I'm too stubborn to leave the carradice bag at home). Over the course of a half of year after owning my bleriot this bike has turned into some what a beater in a sense that I don't mind leaving it outside out at a farmers market locked with an irish strap. My nicks and scratches have far pass the point of beasuage and the low model campy components aren't holding up well because of the abused/misuse. But I don't feel bad for that I'm using the bike for it's purposes despite being a covet Rivendell Bike. Just curious of how others treat their rivendells? Are they really used to their full potential? Or locked away shameless in the garage because of their face value? -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. I would just eyeball it if it weren't right in front of my house. In fact the hill up to my house is the kind that I have generally avoided on bike rides. I've never ridden a bicycle up Moser or Centennial here in the East Bay hills. Since it is right here, what I do is take out my 4 foot level and a ruler. Just measure how high you have to elevate one end to make it level. rise over run. On Jul 16, 5:56 pm, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: I just looked up something that I read in Frank Berto’s book: “With a cyclist’s entire weight on the pedal, the maximum rideable gear in inches is seven times the slope denominator. Thus, a 1-in-10 incline requires a 70-inch gear.” (In other words, on a 10 % slope, with all your weight on the pedal, and a 70-inch gear you would just be stationary. But in reality, if you pulled up on the handlebars, you could make a little progress. ) If I work things out correctly, a 15 % grade would be 1-in-6.67. Using the formula above, this would give a maximum usable gear of 7 X 6.67 = 46.7 gear inches. ( That’s the maximum usable gear, not that it would be a fun ride. ) I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. But I can say, in my experience, riding a single-speed bike will gradually make you a better climber, so that after maybe six months or a year, you can go up hills quicker and easier than you would have done previously in a lower gear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?
My guess is that with tires, stem, handlebars, tires, etc, etc that the VO Poly gets up to $1000 pretty easy which is the cost of the Surly he mentions. On Jul 17, 1:12 pm, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: I thought Grant's little musings were nice -and reassuring given my recent Bleriot purchase - but I wonder if he's being obtuse and purposefully ignoring the Velo-Orange Polyvalent or finds something seriously wrong with it. On Jul 17, 12:08 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Grant's new post intrigued some thoughts within my weary brain. Found on the Rivendell site. Now almost every bike abovet $300 has a shock fork and almost no bike below a Surly is steel. Fuji has one. Raleigh has eleven. Raleigh's slogan in the ancient days, way before mom and dad met, was The All- Steel Bicycle, and I think Raleigh now is trying to recapture the spirit, maybe. It would be so easy to tig-weld a cheap bike that was Affordable Yet Fully Wholeheartedly Endorseable, but we're locked in to lugs, and it's staying that way. Over the years we've talked a little about making a Super Cheap with lugs, but the lower limit isn't all that low, because the labor is so much more intensive. It makes some sense, though. Everybody needs a beater and too many people are afraid to make their Rivbike into the bike they can lock outside the movie theater or bookstore for a few hours. I'm thinking of a way to do it, and it's not looking likely, but it's not been ruled out yet, either, and it's not a front-burner project. I will get to it if at all in many moons. I for one love my bleriot. The ride and the functionally has far surpassed my expectations. I make it my bike to do anything with, short of fast road rides( more because I'm not strong enough and I'm too stubborn to leave the carradice bag at home). Over the course of a half of year after owning my bleriot this bike has turned into some what a beater in a sense that I don't mind leaving it outside out at a farmers market locked with an irish strap. My nicks and scratches have far pass the point of beasuage and the low model campy components aren't holding up well because of the abused/misuse. But I don't feel bad for that I'm using the bike for it's purposes despite being a covet Rivendell Bike. Just curious of how others treat their rivendells? Are they really used to their full potential? Or locked away shameless in the garage because of their face value? -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Dura-Ace vs Ultegra front bar-end shifter
Hi, all. Does anyone know what, if anything, is the difference between the front/left/friction-only shifters of the Dura Ace (9spd, SL-BS77, I believe) and the Ultegra (8spd, SL-BS64, I believe) sets that RBW sells? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
Yes, They are worth it. I have ridden thousands of problem free miles on phil hubs, I got my first set in the mid 1970s and they are still running. On Jul 16, 5:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
If you are fine with 7 speed and, especially if you are using the Silver bar end shifters, the Phils are fantastic. 7 speed index shifters and 8 speed freewheels are almost non existent. So, that's why I raise that issue. 7speed freewheels are still very available and relatively cheap. If you are worried, just stockpile a few. I bought a used set from the 90s and they are butter smooth. I would not hesitate to buy a new set today. You could save some money and get the regular version, rather than the Rivy version. If there were a *similarly priced*, classy cassette hub with cartridge bearings, sure that'd be great. Until that option exists, the Phils will remain popular. On Jul 17, 1:12 pm, muckum toddjeffr...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Yes, they are worth it - if you like stuff that will out live you that you can pass on to a special person. IRD makes great freewheels and parts. On Jul 16, 2:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace vs Ultegra front bar-end shifter
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 13:59 -0500, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: Hi, all. Does anyone know what, if anything, is the difference between the front/left/friction-only shifters of the Dura Ace (9spd, SL-BS77, I believe) and the Ultegra (8spd, SL-BS64, I believe) sets that RBW sells? The color of the coating on the end of the shifter might be different. Otherwise, the internal mechanisms are the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 10:55 -0700, William wrote: I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. Plot it in ridewithgps.com, then run your mouse pointer over the elevation diagram at the bottom of the screen and observe the numbers indicated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Dura-Ace vs Ultegra front bar-end shifter
Kinda what I thought. Thanks! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Jul 17, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 13:59 -0500, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: Hi, all. Does anyone know what, if anything, is the difference between the front/left/friction-only shifters of the Dura Ace (9spd, SL-BS77, I believe) and the Ultegra (8spd, SL-BS64, I believe) sets that RBW sells? The color of the coating on the end of the shifter might be different. Otherwise, the internal mechanisms are the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?
Why impute or wonder about base motives? I am a writer; I know that one often writes from the hip and only after hitting send (so to speak) remembers that there is also this or that that one ought to have mentioned. I expect Grant didn't spend hours analyzing his statement-to-be. and there is no reason why he should do so. Back to the Topic: I bit the bullet several years ago and had my 2003 custom Curt gofast converted by Dave Porter here in ABQ into a Fixed Commuter, to be tossed casually onto bus bike racks along with the miserable Huffys, Magnas and leftover 1990 mtbs (whose riders, miserable, unshaven, hung over, eyes glazed, muttering feebly, facial muscles twitching, in dirty flannel shirts and jeans shiny with years of grime, sweating and stinking, dozens of plastic grocery bags containing their weird, magpie assortments of personal possessions, swinging from the handlebars, matted grey hair half-covering wild, bloodshot eyes --- but I digress) and it survived with a few scuffs and nicks. On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Justin August justinaug...@gmail.comwrote: I thought Grant's little musings were nice -and reassuring given my recent Bleriot purchase - but I wonder if he's being obtuse and purposefully ignoring the Velo-Orange Polyvalent or finds something seriously wrong with it. On Jul 17, 12:08 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Grant's new post intrigued some thoughts within my weary brain. Found on the Rivendell site. Now almost every bike abovet $300 has a shock fork and almost no bike below a Surly is steel. Fuji has one. Raleigh has eleven. Raleigh's slogan in the ancient days, way before mom and dad met, was The All- Steel Bicycle, and I think Raleigh now is trying to recapture the spirit, maybe. It would be so easy to tig-weld a cheap bike that was Affordable Yet Fully Wholeheartedly Endorseable, but we're locked in to lugs, and it's staying that way. Over the years we've talked a little about making a Super Cheap with lugs, but the lower limit isn't all that low, because the labor is so much more intensive. It makes some sense, though. Everybody needs a beater and too many people are afraid to make their Rivbike into the bike they can lock outside the movie theater or bookstore for a few hours. I'm thinking of a way to do it, and it's not looking likely, but it's not been ruled out yet, either, and it's not a front-burner project. I will get to it if at all in many moons. I for one love my bleriot. The ride and the functionally has far surpassed my expectations. I make it my bike to do anything with, short of fast road rides( more because I'm not strong enough and I'm too stubborn to leave the carradice bag at home). Over the course of a half of year after owning my bleriot this bike has turned into some what a beater in a sense that I don't mind leaving it outside out at a farmers market locked with an irish strap. My nicks and scratches have far pass the point of beasuage and the low model campy components aren't holding up well because of the abused/misuse. But I don't feel bad for that I'm using the bike for it's purposes despite being a covet Rivendell Bike. Just curious of how others treat their rivendells? Are they really used to their full potential? Or locked away shameless in the garage because of their face value? -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
I have Phil hubs (FW) on the Ram and White Ind hubs on the Saluki. Both have been excellent, and cost the same or less than some racer type hubs you'll see. The Phils are heavier. FWs are readily available. Try Loosescrews.com for old stuff like 7 speed shifters or FWs, or Ebay. Tons of stuff there. Even Nashbar sells 6 7 speed FWs for $17.99l that actually work pretty well. That's what I currently have on the Ram (13 - 32). From: Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, July 17, 2010 3:40:48 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it. On Jul 17, 3:40 pm, andy arula...@tx.rr.com wrote: Yes, They are worth it. I have ridden thousands of problem free miles on phil hubs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] S24O: tent or no tent?
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So tent or no tent for an S24O? I just got back from a S25O fifteen minutes ago. I was very glad of my tent-- mosquitos AND flies AND some kind of swarming beetle made me happy to be able to retreat at the end of the day. The next morning, there the mosquitos were again. I tested out my new alcohol stove. I'm happy to report that my experiment with pancakes spread with Nutella was a huge success, and that recipe will now be included in my touring repertoire. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] S24O: tent or no tent?
On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 14:00 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote: I tested out my new alcohol stove. I'm happy to report that my experiment with pancakes spread with Nutella was a huge success, and that recipe will now be included in my touring repertoire. Why alcohol rather than any of the alternatives? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
i think that there is one additional consideration: If you ever want indexed shifting, better get a cassette hub. That is not to say you SHOULD ever want index shifting on that bike or that you will ever NEED it. You won't find an 8 speed freewheel, nor will you find 7 speed indexed bar end shifters, at least not easily. If you are fine with friction, I say go for the Phils and get a 7 speed freewheel. Ginz -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
On Jul 16, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Powderpiggy wrote: Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? I have one bike (tandem) with a 1984 Phil rear hub. It has never needed servicing. I have another bike (Rivendell) with 14 year old Phil hubs; they too have never needed servicing. Ditto the Phil rear hub on my wife's bike which is about 12 years old. If decades of hassle-free service are your thing, Phil hubs are a great thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: You live on a 15% hill, you don't need a singlespeed......
When I lived at the corner of Fillmore and Oak in San Francisco there was no way to avoid an insane hill - all four sides were bananas. The Haight Wiggle helped some but there was always some uncomfortable grunting at the end of my commute home. On Jul 17, 1:55 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. I would just eyeball it if it weren't right in front of my house. In fact the hill up to my house is the kind that I have generally avoided on bike rides. I've never ridden a bicycle up Moser or Centennial here in the East Bay hills. Since it is right here, what I do is take out my 4 foot level and a ruler. Just measure how high you have to elevate one end to make it level. rise over run. On Jul 16, 5:56 pm, David T. davidtren...@yahoo.ca wrote: I just looked up something that I read in Frank Berto’s book: “With a cyclist’s entire weight on the pedal, the maximum rideable gear in inches is seven times the slope denominator. Thus, a 1-in-10 incline requires a 70-inch gear.” (In other words, on a 10 % slope, with all your weight on the pedal, and a 70-inch gear you would just be stationary. But in reality, if you pulled up on the handlebars, you could make a little progress. ) If I work things out correctly, a 15 % grade would be 1-in-6.67. Using the formula above, this would give a maximum usable gear of 7 X 6.67 = 46.7 gear inches. ( That’s the maximum usable gear, not that it would be a fun ride. ) I am not sure how people know the grade of a hill either, other than just by eyeballing it. But I can say, in my experience, riding a single-speed bike will gradually make you a better climber, so that after maybe six months or a year, you can go up hills quicker and easier than you would have done previously in a lower gear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] S24O: tent or no tent?
Good question. I've always used a white gas stove when I toured, but it's difficult to buy white gas in touring amounts. Moreover, the gas stoves I've had have either been noisy (MSR Dragonfly) or unable to maintain a low enough heat to cook things like rice and pancakes (every other gas stove I've had). I don't like cartridge stoves because I don't like the idea of disposable cartridges. The Esbit stove is cute, but again it's hard to resupply the fuel. And the Esbit doesn't put out a lot of heat. So far, the Trangia alcohol stove is working out. It got hot enough to cook noodles last night and quickly boil water for coffee this morning, but I was able to moderate the heat for pancakes. And it's blessedly silent. I'm not sure I'm using exactly the right fuel, though. The can is labelled Denatured Alcohol/Marine Stove Fuel, but I thought alcohol wasn't supposed to soot up pots, and this stuff is sooting them up in a big way. On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Why alcohol rather than any of the alternatives? -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
On Jul 17, 4:49 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I have Phil hubs (FW) on the Ram and White Ind hubs on the Saluki. how long have you had your WIs? I blew through the bearings on an H2 hub in a year - lots of wet miles though. replaced original bearings with Phils. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: healdsburg century, this weekend
todd, sory i missed you. i spotted two rivs at the first stop in geyserville: an orange hilsen( looked like 650 wheels) and a light blue saluki. both beautiful bikes. the weather was stunning. don c. On Jul 16, 6:53 pm, Todd Olsen todd_ol...@comcast.net wrote: i will be there on a blue hilsen. wearing a kaiser jersey with blueberries and a bunch of other people from kaiser. i will look for you. todd olsen On Jul 16, 8:26 am, BykMor byk...@gmail.com wrote: I wish. That really is a beautiful ride. I organized a little Wine Powered Tour with some friends last summer and we rode that route one of the days. Idyllic. Have a great ride! bykmor On Jul 15, 10:07 pm, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: are any of you riv-owners doing the healdsburg century this weekend? i will be on my mary's blue rodeo. hope to see a few rivs. don c.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
Thanks for all the replies.The PW 'Rivy' hubs probably would not break the bank while the PW cassette hubs would. But I was a little unsure about the freewheel but it sounds like maybe that should not be so much of a concern. Anything else you would recommend upgrading?? On Jul 17, 8:30 am, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: I love mine, five or 6 speeds in the rear is all I seem to need. I think with the Foy you can get a dishless 7 speed wheel build that will be very strong and last a very long time as others have stated. If you are heavy or plan to load the rear the benifits of added strength and even spoke length are enough to sway the decision for me. Yes there are other makers of nice hubs, but the Phil freewheels hit a sweet spot for me. Plus they look really cool Rob On Jul 16, 2:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
It true...I do need racks and bagsfenders...etc. On Jul 17, 9:06 am, jamison brosseau jamison.bross...@gmail.com wrote: i would get a non budget shimano wheelset. those hubs last a long time, and with the money you save, you can afford to outfit your bike with all the racks and bags you will need. jamison On Jul 17, 11:30 am, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: I love mine, five or 6 speeds in the rear is all I seem to need. I think with the Foy you can get a dishless 7 speed wheel build that will be very strong and last a very long time as others have stated. If you are heavy or plan to load the rear the benifits of added strength and even spoke length are enough to sway the decision for me. Yes there are other makers of nice hubs, but the Phil freewheels hit a sweet spot for me. Plus they look really cool Rob On Jul 16, 2:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
I have always considered Phil Hubs but never took the plunge.My first Riv was a Saluki w. 650b budget wheelset.I have since took the plunge on Phil wheels and B.B..One wheelset is a cassette for my touring Saluki,pricey though.The other is a Phil rear freewheel not to pricey.They are both excellent. I would go for the freewheel,it doesn't cost a fortune and your getting Phil quality that just rools and rolls and rolls.If your concerned w. the avalability of freewheels in the future buy 2 IRD's.Store one for the future.If you get the Phil you have piece of mind that you have the best.If you get the budget set you'll always be thinking how you should have gotten the Phil.They will last you a lifetime. On Jul 16, 5:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?
i have a hillborne that is my everyday bike. i have it pitlocked and the vulnerable bolts are stuffed with foil to keep it from being stripped. the paint chips pretty easily on this frame, i have a few city flag stickers covering the big ones. rain or shine, snow slop, locked up outside of bars, whatever. i don't worry about it too much, it's framesaved and waxed. i spend a lot of time on my daily rider and want something good and solid, but nothing i would really worry about. the hillborne is pretty perfect for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent?
I made myself one of these a couple of years ago. Along with the Ray- way quilt, it's how i always camp now. I prefer to sleep outside a tent, but the tarp is super-light and compact, and if rain's a possibility, I pitch it. I also made the netting insert, but have never used it. have yet to camp in conditions where the bugs are terrible in the middle of the night, and a couple bites doesn't really bother me much; worth the price to sleep under the stars, IMHO. You can also buy something similar pretty cheap, like Kent Peterson describes here: http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/2009/05/closer-to-fine.html Keep it simple and light. On Jul 17, 7:27 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So tent or no tent for an S24O? This is actually more of a +24O where I'm gonna do approx 60 miles the first day and maybe 100+ the second day, taking in SW portions of the Mt Hood National Forest. I'm tentatively planning on camping by a lake so I'm thinking there's gonna be mosquitos so I'm thinking I might want my tent... well, and it is OR, so rain is always a possibility... I like the idea of nixing the tent as I could just carry everything in my Carradice Nelson LF and a medium Wald basket up front. Just kind of curious what people think. Obviously if there's any chance of rain in the forecast I'll take the tent. Tentative plan is to do this ride over two days as opposed to one day which totally wrecked me last year. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157621778650380/ Riv content: I'm gonna ride my Hilsen. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent?
Whoops - forgot the link to the Ray-Way tarp tent: http://www.rayjardine.com/ray-way/Tarp-Kit/index.htm On Jul 17, 4:03 pm, velomann velom...@gmail.com wrote: I made myself one of these a couple of years ago. Along with the Ray- way quilt, it's how i always camp now. I prefer to sleep outside a tent, but the tarp is super-light and compact, and if rain's a possibility, I pitch it. I also made the netting insert, but have never used it. have yet to camp in conditions where the bugs are terrible in the middle of the night, and a couple bites doesn't really bother me much; worth the price to sleep under the stars, IMHO. You can also buy something similar pretty cheap, like Kent Peterson describes here:http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/2009/05/closer-to-fine.html Keep it simple and light. On Jul 17, 7:27 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So tent or no tent for an S24O? This is actually more of a +24O where I'm gonna do approx 60 miles the first day and maybe 100+ the second day, taking in SW portions of the Mt Hood National Forest. I'm tentatively planning on camping by a lake so I'm thinking there's gonna be mosquitos so I'm thinking I might want my tent... well, and it is OR, so rain is always a possibility... I like the idea of nixing the tent as I could just carry everything in my Carradice Nelson LF and a medium Wald basket up front. Just kind of curious what people think. Obviously if there's any chance of rain in the forecast I'll take the tent. Tentative plan is to do this ride over two days as opposed to one day which totally wrecked me last year. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157621778650380/ Riv content: I'm gonna ride my Hilsen. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
My Sam Hillborne has a Phil f/w rear hub. It's very nice. Very little dish and strong. Since building the wheel earlier this year, have yet to touch it with a spoke wrench. Another bike has Shimano XT hubs and I repacked the rear hub bearings after about 1,000 miles. That said - the repack was easy with the right tools and, again with the right tools, is quite easy to take a cassette off. Not necessarily the case with a freewheel. Purchased the Phil hub because I really wanted a Phil hub. Had lusted after them since the early 1980's. Finally decided to take the plunge. Plus my LBS gave me a price I could not refuse. (Thanks again to Jim at Hiawatha for that and for teaching me how to build a wheel.) If you really want a Phil, go for it. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 17, 4:05 pm, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: I have always considered Phil Hubs but never took the plunge.My first Riv was a Saluki w. 650b budget wheelset.I have since took the plunge on Phil wheels and B.B..One wheelset is a cassette for my touring Saluki,pricey though.The other is a Phil rear freewheel not to pricey.They are both excellent. I would go for the freewheel,it doesn't cost a fortune and your getting Phil quality that just rools and rolls and rolls.If your concerned w. the avalability of freewheels in the future buy 2 IRD's.Store one for the future.If you get the Phil you have piece of mind that you have the best.If you get the budget set you'll always be thinking how you should have gotten the Phil.They will last you a lifetime. On Jul 16, 5:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?
Well, my Rivendell is not a beater. Yes, I ride it around and even commute on it when I feel like. However, it's not the bike I take out on the icy, salty roads of winter. Others do. In that case, the bike of choice (for this coming winter) will be a Surly. Earlier this week, received a snide remark from a rider on a nice new steel Fuji that my Hillborne was a decent commuting bike. Yup. Guess it is that, too. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 17, 11:26 am, mr.trout ianet...@yahoo.com wrote: i have a hillborne that is my everyday bike. i have it pitlocked and the vulnerable bolts are stuffed with foil to keep it from being stripped. the paint chips pretty easily on this frame, i have a few city flag stickers covering the big ones. rain or shine, snow slop, locked up outside of bars, whatever. i don't worry about it too much, it's framesaved and waxed. i spend a lot of time on my daily rider and want something good and solid, but nothing i would really worry about. the hillborne is pretty perfect for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Comparing Mark's bar with the Noodle.
I have a 46 cm Noodle on the Sam Hill and find the reach a bit much. The Mark's is 113 mm shorter per the Riv description, but then, too, the Noodle bends back. Can anyone tell me the overall difference in reach between Mark's and Noodle? I did correct much of the problem of too far away with the Noodle by finding that I had slammed my Turbo some 4 1/2 behind the bb, instead of my usual 3 1/2, so putting the saddle correctly in place made the reach considerable more comfortable. But I do find that the slope of the ramps on the 185 (which Mark copied) is more comfortable for the hoods when the bars are a bit lower relative to the saddle. Thanks, PAM -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: S24O: tent or no tent?
Am a tent person. But always have a tendency to overpack. Even for S24O. Plus, I like the privacy a tent provides. Especially at a campground. Another idea could be a bivy sack. Small enough to fit in a saddlebag, but gives some protection from the elements and bugs. Have discovered through festivals that while mosquitos quiet down a bit after dark, they never seem to disappear. Sometimes makes jamming, um, interesting. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 17, 6:06 pm, velomann velom...@gmail.com wrote: Whoops - forgot the link to the Ray-Way tarp tent:http://www.rayjardine.com/ray-way/Tarp-Kit/index.htm On Jul 17, 4:03 pm, velomann velom...@gmail.com wrote: I made myself one of these a couple of years ago. Along with the Ray- way quilt, it's how i always camp now. I prefer to sleep outside a tent, but the tarp is super-light and compact, and if rain's a possibility, I pitch it. I also made the netting insert, but have never used it. have yet to camp in conditions where the bugs are terrible in the middle of the night, and a couple bites doesn't really bother me much; worth the price to sleep under the stars, IMHO. You can also buy something similar pretty cheap, like Kent Peterson describes here:http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/2009/05/closer-to-fine.html Keep it simple and light. On Jul 17, 7:27 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So tent or no tent for an S24O? This is actually more of a +24O where I'm gonna do approx 60 miles the first day and maybe 100+ the second day, taking in SW portions of the Mt Hood National Forest. I'm tentatively planning on camping by a lake so I'm thinking there's gonna be mosquitos so I'm thinking I might want my tent... well, and it is OR, so rain is always a possibility... I like the idea of nixing the tent as I could just carry everything in my Carradice Nelson LF and a medium Wald basket up front. Just kind of curious what people think. Obviously if there's any chance of rain in the forecast I'll take the tent. Tentative plan is to do this ride over two days as opposed to one day which totally wrecked me last year. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157621778650380/ Riv content: I'm gonna ride my Hilsen. --mike- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?
Despite my published reservations about the SH, I'd unhesitatingly choose it as a beater commuter -- I prefer to call such bikes no worries, mate bikes -- since despite not being the equal of any of my 3 custom Rivs it is still a very nice bike compared to most others I've owned. (Tho' I bet my 1989 Sante equipped Falcon -- 531C, steep 'n' short in front (TCO!!!) and long, long in back -- would have made an excellent sporty commuter for, say, Tubus Fly and Carradice Kendals; one of those I am sorry I sold. Wisdom in hindsight.) On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 6:47 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Well, my Rivendell is not a beater. Yes, I ride it around and even commute on it when I feel like. However, it's not the bike I take out on the icy, salty roads of winter. Others do. In that case, the bike of choice (for this coming winter) will be a Surly. Earlier this week, received a snide remark from a rider on a nice new steel Fuji that my Hillborne was a decent commuting bike. Yup. Guess it is that, too. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 17, 11:26 am, mr.trout ianet...@yahoo.com wrote: i have a hillborne that is my everyday bike. i have it pitlocked and the vulnerable bolts are stuffed with foil to keep it from being stripped. the paint chips pretty easily on this frame, i have a few city flag stickers covering the big ones. rain or shine, snow slop, locked up outside of bars, whatever. i don't worry about it too much, it's framesaved and waxed. i spend a lot of time on my daily rider and want something good and solid, but nothing i would really worry about. the hillborne is pretty perfect for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rivendell as a beater bike?
I'd love to see another collaboration between Rivendell and either QBP (Surly/Salsa) or Merry Sales (Soma). Similar to the Bleriot arrangement they had. Let Grant design and spec it, let them sell it. TIG welded powder coated would be awesome for this application. Let the distributor worry about the on-line low-balling. Just have that Rivendell touch in the design and components. Something similar to the idea of the LHT or Casserole. The non Trek or Specialized branded shops could sell it pretty well I'm guess (knowing nothing of the bike biz). On-line sites (Air Bomb, Jenson, etc) could sell bunches of them. And I think a lot of us would buy one just have it as a back-up/borrower bike. Or a snow slush bike. Would be great! On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 9:08 AM, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: Grant's new post intrigued some thoughts within my weary brain. Found on the Rivendell site. Now almost every bike abovet $300 has a shock fork and almost no bike below a Surly is steel. Fuji has one. Raleigh has eleven. Raleigh's slogan in the ancient days, way before mom and dad met, was The All- Steel Bicycle, and I think Raleigh now is trying to recapture the spirit, maybe. It would be so easy to tig-weld a cheap bike that was Affordable Yet Fully Wholeheartedly Endorseable, but we're locked in to lugs, and it's staying that way. Over the years we've talked a little about making a Super Cheap with lugs, but the lower limit isn't all that low, because the labor is so much more intensive. It makes some sense, though. Everybody needs a beater and too many people are afraid to make their Rivbike into the bike they can lock outside the movie theater or bookstore for a few hours. I'm thinking of a way to do it, and it's not looking likely, but it's not been ruled out yet, either, and it's not a front-burner project. I will get to it if at all in many moons. I for one love my bleriot. The ride and the functionally has far surpassed my expectations. I make it my bike to do anything with, short of fast road rides( more because I'm not strong enough and I'm too stubborn to leave the carradice bag at home). Over the course of a half of year after owning my bleriot this bike has turned into some what a beater in a sense that I don't mind leaving it outside out at a farmers market locked with an irish strap. My nicks and scratches have far pass the point of beasuage and the low model campy components aren't holding up well because of the abused/misuse. But I don't feel bad for that I'm using the bike for it's purposes despite being a covet Rivendell Bike. Just curious of how others treat their rivendells? Are they really used to their full potential? Or locked away shameless in the garage because of their face value? -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
Re-packing hubs is one of my favorite bike maintenance things to do. Just a good feeling of satisfaction after completing it. On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 5:40 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: My Sam Hillborne has a Phil f/w rear hub. It's very nice. Very little dish and strong. Since building the wheel earlier this year, have yet to touch it with a spoke wrench. Another bike has Shimano XT hubs and I repacked the rear hub bearings after about 1,000 miles. That said - the repack was easy with the right tools and, again with the right tools, is quite easy to take a cassette off. Not necessarily the case with a freewheel. Purchased the Phil hub because I really wanted a Phil hub. Had lusted after them since the early 1980's. Finally decided to take the plunge. Plus my LBS gave me a price I could not refuse. (Thanks again to Jim at Hiawatha for that and for teaching me how to build a wheel.) If you really want a Phil, go for it. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 17, 4:05 pm, hobie moho1...@yahoo.com wrote: I have always considered Phil Hubs but never took the plunge.My first Riv was a Saluki w. 650b budget wheelset.I have since took the plunge on Phil wheels and B.B..One wheelset is a cassette for my touring Saluki,pricey though.The other is a Phil rear freewheel not to pricey.They are both excellent. I would go for the freewheel,it doesn't cost a fortune and your getting Phil quality that just rools and rolls and rolls.If your concerned w. the avalability of freewheels in the future buy 2 IRD's.Store one for the future.If you get the Phil you have piece of mind that you have the best.If you get the budget set you'll always be thinking how you should have gotten the Phil.They will last you a lifetime. On Jul 16, 5:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Thoughts on assorted recent threads
4 of us went 80 miles today (Montgomery to Tuskeegee and then around the countryside on our way back) and covered roads which ranged from new asphalt to dirt. In between, we had rough roads that would knock your dental fillings out. Morning temps were mid 70s with near 100% humidity and by afternoon, the Sun was broiling and it was 93F. I rode a '95 Riv Road. My son pointed out to me the paint dings, and I beat the tar out of it. I also left it unlocked at breakfast in Tuskeegee. So it's a great beater bike. :) It was also a big attention getter when the kit crowd of Auburn Flyers out for their morning 50 miles came up to the same gas Station in Notasulga on Cervelos, Colnagos, BMC and the like. Is that a RIVENDELL!?! :) Other notes: Despite the disparagement for it's Sartorial Excellence for Cyclists advertising, the Rapha cap I got (used, Ebay, England) this week and wore for the first time on a ride today was flat out wonderful at handling sweat, maintaining it's shape and looking great when soaking wet. Wool is great no matter what the climate. Soaking wet (humidity caused) microfiber jerseys abrade my nipples raw. No such issue with wool. It dried quickly once the Sun came out as well. Pascenti Pari Motos handled every surface today with aplomb. Very comfortable as well. No flats yet either. Surefooted in gravel as well. A few pictures (no captions yet) at Picasa. One shows a bit of the oogly road surface in rural Macon County. http://picasaweb.google.com/Bruce.Herbitter/20100717# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 50cm Rambouillet FS at PedalRev/SF
jim, thanks for the tip. i went up to sanfo this noon and got it. the components are no cheapo. i just asked that the saddle be swapped to b17. i will ride it for a while to see if it needs fenders or not. it looks bare though without them. here's a photolink: http://tinyurl.com/25q24vs -- rene On Jul 15, 7:36 am, cyclofiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey all - Just caught this on the Pedal Revolution blog (was from 7/12). If anyone was looking for a 50 cm Rambouillet in blue, they seem to have one, all built up with priest bars for around $1500 - http://pedalrevolutionblog.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/july-update/ Not mine, no connection to seller. - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Thoughts on assorted recent threads
Looked like a nice bike over at Ben's Bargains... do you know if they ship? On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: 4 of us went 80 miles today (Montgomery to Tuskeegee and then around the countryside on our way back) and covered roads which ranged from new asphalt to dirt. In between, we had rough roads that would knock your dental fillings out. Morning temps were mid 70s with near 100% humidity and by afternoon, the Sun was broiling and it was 93F. I rode a '95 Riv Road. My son pointed out to me the paint dings, and I beat the tar out of it. I also left it unlocked at breakfast in Tuskeegee. So it's a great beater bike. :) It was also a big attention getter when the kit crowd of Auburn Flyers out for their morning 50 miles came up to the same gas Station in Notasulga on Cervelos, Colnagos, BMC and the like. Is that a RIVENDELL!?! :) Other notes: Despite the disparagement for it's Sartorial Excellence for Cyclists advertising, the Rapha cap I got (used, Ebay, England) this week and wore for the first time on a ride today was flat out wonderful at handling sweat, maintaining it's shape and looking great when soaking wet. Wool is great no matter what the climate. Soaking wet (humidity caused) microfiber jerseys abrade my nipples raw. No such issue with wool. It dried quickly once the Sun came out as well. Pascenti Pari Motos handled every surface today with aplomb. Very comfortable as well. No flats yet either. Surefooted in gravel as well. A few pictures (no captions yet) at Picasa. One shows a bit of the oogly road surface in rural Macon County. http://picasaweb.google.com/Bruce.Herbitter/20100717# -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
Tell us more about your build. We'll gladly spend your money. On Jul 17, 11:44 am, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: Thanks for all the replies. The PW 'Rivy' hubs probably would not break the bank while the PW cassette hubs would. But I was a little unsure about the freewheel but it sounds like maybe that should not be so much of a concern. Anything else you would recommend upgrading?? On Jul 17, 8:30 am, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: I love mine, five or 6 speeds in the rear is all I seem to need. I think with the Foy you can get a dishless 7 speed wheel build that will be very strong and last a very long time as others have stated. If you are heavy or plan to load the rear the benifits of added strength and even spoke length are enough to sway the decision for me. Yes there are other makers of nice hubs, but the Phil freewheels hit a sweet spot for me. Plus they look really cool Rob On Jul 16, 2:02 pm, Powderpiggy ke...@mid-columbia-coho.net wrote: I plan to purchase a Betty FoyI have been oggling the Betty Foy's online since as long as they have been around, and the Glorius before her. This would be my first Riv (and probably only as I don't have huge expendable income). This is a major purchase form me so I am thinking it would be worth it to make sure I don't just go cheap, but get it built up to something that I will love for years and years and not wish I had spent a little more to get an upgrated X or Y. I plan to use the Betty Foy for short tours (7-10 days likely the longest), bike commuting, tootling around town, and perhaps centuries or longer (I have a very lightweight road bike that has served this purpose but is not suited for touring, commuting, tootling, etc). Smy thought is that the wheelset would be the most important thing to upgrade (beyond the 'budget' wheelset. Are the Phil Wood hubs really worth the money? What would you do? I am hugely intimdated by the cost but am intreged with the 'Riv' Phil Wood hubs that work with a freewheel. I have no experience in this area as my only bike has a cassette. What would you upgrade and why? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Comparing Mark's bar with the Noodle.
I just replaced a Noodle with a Mark's bar on my Rivendell Longlow. I like the Mark's bar a lot. Because of the relatively shallow drop and shorter reach I can more easily ride in the drops. I am very pleased with the change. On Jul 17, 5:53 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I have a 46 cm Noodle on the Sam Hill and find the reach a bit much. The Mark's is 113 mm shorter per the Riv description, but then, too, the Noodle bends back. Can anyone tell me the overall difference in reach between Mark's and Noodle? I did correct much of the problem of too far away with the Noodle by finding that I had slammed my Turbo some 4 1/2 behind the bb, instead of my usual 3 1/2, so putting the saddle correctly in place made the reach considerable more comfortable. But I do find that the slope of the ramps on the 185 (which Mark copied) is more comfortable for the hoods when the bars are a bit lower relative to the saddle. Thanks, PAM -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newbie here: Are Phil Wood hubs worth it.
I have bikes with PW (Freewheel), SunTour (FW), and Shimano hubs (Cassette). I agree with all I've seen here. For me, the most practical difference has been the service after the sale. On two occasions I've had slight problems with PW gear and a quick phone call to PW HQ and the bearings or other parts are on their way, one time for free. Specifically, the issues were: *Car camped throughout southern Utah Red Rock, with my bike on the back of the car. Grit got into the BB bearings and killed it. PW replaced the BB. (for free!) *Needed to repurpose a hub for use on a 135 rear spacing 7 speed, to a 132.5 5 speed. On the phone, PW told me what I needed, and sent for a very small fee. UPGRADE IDEA for you: For touring, and general night riding, I can highly recommend the Schmidt Dynohub for the front wheel. I've ridden this hub at least 50 miles per week for the last 10 years, and it is like new. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell as a beater bike?
Holy cow they are just bicycles ! I don't think a cheaper bicycle would be any less likely to be stolen or damaged by use. Lets face it, you can't take this stuff with you when you die so enjoy it now. Quality things are nice to own and use and.if you can afford something expensive then use it (don't wreck it) but do use it. I wouldn't waste all my hard work on something that just sat in my garage never to be ridden except on a perfectly paved bike path, on a sunny day, when the pollen count and bugs are low and the planets are in perfect alignment. Ghee whizz ! I'm done being dramatic now ; ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
