[RBW] Latest Roscoe Bubbe

Interestingly enough from a "design evolution " standpoint the new Bubbes are very similar to the vision of Cleland cycles, an early proponent of off road cycling in the UK. He liked very steep seat and head angles though. Always like seeing things come full circle -- You received this

[RBW] Cheviot (or Sam)

I love my cheviot! Great for carrying lots of stuff and enjoy being upright while cruising in traffic. Get over the girl bike thing. I even commute up 1800 ft elevation on it, not the best for uphill but is a blast rolling down steep hills and enjoying view of Golden Gate Bridge. Have also done

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

If I recall Bob Brown makes some very nice bikes ...could try posting the bike here or internet-bob, I would think On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:58:02 AM UTC-5, SeanMac wrote: > > Wow - what a bunch of enablers you folks are! In all seriousness, I > really do appreciate all of your

[RBW] Re: Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

Those black sams. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

Sorryas you can see by the link, classic lugged steel bikes available http://www.bobbrowncycles.com/ >From Minnesota On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 12:31:34 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 12:07:56 PM UTC-5, Ryan

[RBW] Clipless or Clips?

Some time ago I swapped the Shimano M324 pedals on the Hon Solo for MKS GR9s, complete with Christophes, toe strap buckle pads, and strap buttons. The GR9 is a cheap pedal, not nearly as nice as the MKS Urban, which I also tried briefly, but the flip tab on the -9 is simply the best, IMO. At any

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

I just recently gave up looking for a used 50cm cheviot for my wife. She has a Clem and it would be stupid financially anyway. They just don't pop up for sale nearly as often as other riv models. I think I've seen 1 chev in the last year, and he was selling it for about the same price as a new

[RBW] Re: Clipless or Clips?

I have a size 11 1/2 foot. I used the SOMA Oppy toe clips (copies of the old Weinmann design) MKS Touring pedals with a flip tab installed. Always worked great. I did not tighten the straps and did not use cleated shoes. That said, l recently got a knee issue solved and have been using

[RBW] Just Ride

The writer doesn't use fenders, but .. http://redkiteprayer.com/2016/07/friday-group-ride-322/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Clipless or Clips?

Thanks Patrick, That was probably my post about the shoes - I put the report on CR added them to a shoe topic on iBoB. I really like them - they do the job I bought them for, they're lightweight, cool, plenty stiff, easy in and out of the toe straps - and look better than I need. Honestly,

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s?

Ha! This is the thread from six years ago where I started trying to fun the numbers on the serial number breaks between colors, trying to figure out how many of each color was made, what ended up on cyclofiend.com's Ram page. My green Ram is RB1207, and has the mid-fork braze-ons; your number

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

Still more comments about how nice the Cheviot is to ride. As far as I can tell, the only criticism seems to be that it only have one bottle mount. For around town riding, this seems not a big deal, and, as the poster commented, extra bottles can be stashed in bags if going on an extended

Re: [RBW] Re: Clipless or Clips?

Those are beautiful shoes; they came up recently on either the boblist or the CR list. I also came across Hasus shoes (Taiwan) who have "retro" models, and of course Dromarti. Y'know, I always change back to clipless in the end, and what I will probably do is simply get a pair of RX-1s or old

[RBW] Re: Clipless or Clips?

I was never happy with clips and straps -- some of which came from pulling my foot out while racing -- so I switched to Look in 1984 and never looked back. I used SPD and Ritchey, and have settled on Time ATAC for the last decade or so. All of my bikes except one have Time; the only exception

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB (or trade) MKS Touring pedals

no problem, I'm switching to big platform pedals and find the MKS a bit small. Good luck!! On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 4:50:26 PM UTC-5, John Bokman wrote: > > Jim, thanks of the offer. I’m thinking about using some power grips with > the MKS pedals, but first I’m trying out the VP Vice

[RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)

As requested, here is a link to a few photos of my Bob Brown Cycles road frame. It was built for me by Bob Brown in 2007. It was my main bike for many years, but rarely hits the road any more. The geometry is pretty straight forward: Size - to top of seat tube - 56.2 cm Top tube

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

I have owned a Cheviot for a year and ride regularly. I'm 6'3" and weigh 220-230 depending on how many hot dogs I've eaten; there is not much frame flex and I can get this baby moving. Great bike, maybe the greatest get around town bike ever created, or least for myself. -- You received

[RBW] Re: Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

I'm looking forward to the bikes n coffee this weekend! My wife and I can't ride yet with the 7 week old in tow but I'll bring her Clementine and either my Saluki or Bombadil to show... Hope to see plenty of folks out there! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] FS- 58cm NOS Betty Foy and 50cm Used 94 RB-T

Bump Open to offers on either. Pictures available through private messages. All funds generated will be reinvested @ Rivendell World Headquarters. Sincerely, Ryan Hankinson Muskegon, MI 49445 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

I'm not in a position to compare the two, but I would very much like to TRY a Cheviot, because I know from experience that my wife and I can easily pedal the Clem L-stype hard enough to cause problematic frame flex. The Cheviot should be stiffer, and I think that would help a lot. /Jeremy On

Re: [RBW] Clipless or Clips?

Another vote against clips and straps. I don't see any benefit: they don't have the freedom and ease of use of flats, and they also don't have the security and locked in feeling of clipless. No thanks for me. Eric Daume Plain City, OH six bikes, 4 clipless, 2 flats On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 3:51

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s?

Oh, somewhere along the line, there's a typo: my number really is an RB number, not RM... that's a typo... On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:14:05 PM UTC-4, Leslie wrote: > > Ha! This is the thread from six years ago where I started trying to fun > the numbers on the serial number breaks

Re: [RBW] Thinking of a Riv

Next update... I got a call from Roman today with a couple of issues on my AHH build. They have not yet received the polished Paul's brakes. Evidently, something happened to a machine that is holding up manufacturing. They will investigate to provide me some more information. It also seems the

Re: [RBW] Clipless or Clips?

I started using clips and clipless as my very nice Marinoni built bike had lots of toe overlap -- and heel strike on panniers too. Then again I am biggish - 6'5 with size 12 US shoes. For longer bikes like my Fargo, no problem Eric Floden Vancouver BC On 9 August 2016 at 18:11, Eric Daume

[RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)

Sean, That is a beautiful custom lugged frame. Although others have cited the issues of customs not holding value. The good news is your only need to find one person who shares you vision and size. As you started your build is pretty standard. Another option is to sell frame set separate

[RBW] Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

I'm in the process of building up a Sam almost exactly like this! Beautiful! Ian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: FS Bags, Racks, etc.

The Nitto R-10/Revelate Jerrycan package has sold. All that remains is the VO Rackaleur and the Lesyne XL. A hardy thank-you to everyone who has looked and especially to those who've made purchases! On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 7:47:14 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote: > > Hello, I'm offering for

[RBW] Re: CSJ: Non-moose Boscos

The actual order page makes no mention of it, but this page notes the 2016 batch is non-moose: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-clemsmith.htm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Clipless or Clips?

MKS sylvans and clips or halfs only. Used looks ca. 1989-2004 (and used to proclaim 'the only real development in cycles since the derailleur'!) then decided I didn't need to be that tightly attached to bike anymore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: CSJ: Non-moose Boscos

Well there ya go. This might be good for some buyers, those wayback-and-wide Boscos are an acquired taste. It'll be cheaper to try a new bar this way. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)

Congratulations Reed! That bike was really meant for you! René On Tuesday, August 9, 2016, Joe Bernard wrote: > Wow, that sure is purty. I recommend getting a measurement on the seattube > at the top of the toptube. I think you measured to the tip of the seat lug, > which

Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)

As Reed states half price is a good starting point on a used custom bike. That said, I have no clue what a Bob Brown frame goes for new. I also picked up one custom used and received a screaming deal. Yet I would quickly pay $1500 for a used 68cm Custom Rivendell frame set. Or up to $2500 for

[RBW] FS- 58cm NOS Betty Foy and 50cm Used 94 RB-T

Re Betty Foy, are you offering frame and fork only, or the full bike? Pricing? --Dave in Kansas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)

Indeed, that is a gorgeous frame! I love the deep rich red. It's like the color of a candy apple in a dream, just a little more red than is possible in the real world. I'll also contribute a short happy story about buying a used custom bike because, well, I just bought one. After reading through

[RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)

Wow, that sure is purty. I recommend getting a measurement on the seattube at the top of the toptube. I think you measured to the tip of the seat lug, which isn't a standard sizing location. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] FS- 58cm NOS Betty Foy and 50cm Used 94 RB-T

Good question Dave. I should have made it clearer. Betty Foy price is $1100 shipped anywhere CUSA. Of New Old Stock Frame Set in original box including cat art. Rivendell Betty Frame Set includes inserted headset and bottom bracket. A non-inserted seatpost also included. Frame buyer will have

Re: [RBW] Bob Brown Cycles Road Frame (as referenced in Cheviot thread)

Beautiful M.A.P. --> APPROVE Three photos from the non-drive side --> DISAPPROVE  Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [RBW] Re: Olympic Bike Racing, Cobbles, and tire width

When picking tires for that course, I wonder how many considered the moisture? That section where the Dutch rider went down looked moist, like from condensing moisture. Back when special compound tires were just landing in stores and folks buying them were finding out themselves that their

[RBW] Re: Swiss Army Bicycle (literally)

they're about the same price new at *Sportsman's Guide*

[RBW] Re: Olympic Bike Racing, Cobbles, and tire width

Thanks for the clarity Mark ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Latest Roscoe Bubbe

Isn't if funny how we search for the right word to describe color ! I say the color is what it is , in whom it is. The color speaks for itself . Nice ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: Olympic Bike Racing, Cobbles, and tire width

Conventional wisdom in the racing crowd says that saving weight at the rim / tire is even more benificial than just saving weight in general. Not everyone holds with the notion that this is significant though. I believe the topic has been debated here in the past. -- You received this message

[RBW] Betty Foy Sighting Seattle

Monday evening 8/8, you turned right off of 23rd between Cafe Lago and Mountlake Bicycle and cranked up the hill heading West. Gave a shout out but you were engaged. Great looking Blue Betty build for utility. A nice evening for a ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed

[RBW] Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

If you live in the DC area, come on out to Gravel & Grind Sunday the 14th for our Rivendell and Bridgestone Owners Bunch coffee ride and social. Details at http://gravelandgrind.com/rivendell-bridgestone-coffee/ It looks like a good turn so far but

[RBW] Re: Olympic Bike Racing, Cobbles, and tire width

In addition to the aerodynamic advantages of skinny tires, tubulars, etc. in this discussion, I've always understood that *weight* out at the rim was a big factor as well. IOW, the lighter the rim, tire, etc. the easier it is to maintain a high momentum (cadence), hence the use of these

[RBW] Cheviot (or Sam)

Hi folks, I had the opportunity to spend a few hours at Riv HQ a few Saturday's ago. I had a wonderful time - I rode four bikes (Clem, Cheviot, Sam and Hubbuhubbah), and walked away with a medium saddlesack bag. Still smile when I think about the fun I had. Most of my riding (about an hour)

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

Hi Sean: I have a green Cheviot and gave up my Sam to get it. It's set up also with Rock and Roads, front (with a basket) and rear rack, and I ride it

[RBW] Re: Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

such awesome builds On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 9:55:29 AM UTC-4, Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes wrote: > > If you live in the DC area, come on out to Gravel & Grind > Sunday the 14th for our > Rivendell and Bridgestone Owners Bunch coffee ride and

[RBW] Cheviot (or Sam)

I have 3 other amazing bicycles, but the Cheviot is what I ride the most. Not that I would do a fast 200k on it or take it mountainbiking (I rides single track well enough though) but for most rides it is an amazing bike. Tends to put you in a different frame of mind. A very practical bike! I

[RBW] Re: WTT: Olive SaddleSack Large for Grey, black or Tan

Clayton, Thanks for reminding me of your bag for sale. I would rather trade but buying/selling is always an option. I'll ponder. Thanks, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Cheviot (or Sam)

Hi Sean, I have a Cheviot and have owned a Sam in the past. The Chev is set up with Albastache bars and a short stem. The Cheviot does ride differently that the Sam probably due to the longer chain stays. The Chev is a 55 so 650B which might contributed of the difference as well. Both bikes

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

A few years ago I bought a Motobecane Super Mirage Mixte (google it) from a woman up the street. It was $15, had been her daily commuter for years, and she'd had Suntour Command shifters installed. I bought it for the shifters figuring I'd never find a pair for $15. At the time I was riding a

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

Hey Sean, I've owned both the Chev & Sam, before switching to the Hunq which fit more of my fat tire needs, and the ability to shoulder my bike up and down my apartment stairs. If you don't have to carry the bike up and down any stairs and don't need room for more than 45mm tires, I think

[RBW] Cheviot (or Sam)

I still have some residual issues with mixtes being perceived as "girl bikes", but I don't see it in the Cheviot. The toptube has more of a downslope-like-a-mountain-bike look than a true mixte. If it rides anything like my Appaloosa - which I think it's comparable to - then you should get one.

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

Wow - what a bunch of enablers you folks are! In all seriousness, I really do appreciate all of your comments. I really did enjoy riding the Cheviot when I was in Walnut Creek a few weeks ago. I remember being surprised by how quick the bike felt. I have a Tubus rear rack and a "Mark's

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

My wife has a Cheviot and I have a Sam. Both are setup almost identically and ride wonderfully. The Chev is a bit plusher ride and extremely comfortable. If I were to choose one for city and errand riding, it would be the Cheviot. The longer chain stays make large panniers for groceries easy,

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

Tires= I LOVE the Rock and Roads. Use both on and off road. They wear great. I believe they're the maximum width the Cheviot can take. On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at

[RBW] Latest Roscoe Bubbe

You know I've been thinking that although the Rosoes are sort of "one offs" I can't help but think some elements of these bike will reappear in the near future! The funka tube (or whatever it's called), really helps to support the radically sloping top tube, which in turn invites a much

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

The last run of Cheviots? Say it ain't so! I can't speak to the Cheviot, but I have the Chev's forerunner, the Betty Foy and it's a lovely bike. It's also my only bike, and it will remain so because it is One Bike to Rule Them All. I am putting Bosco Bullmoose bars on it, and then I promise it

Re: [RBW] Re: 10-30 minute rides

That's GENIUS. -- Beth H in PDX Sent from my iPad On Aug 8, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Speaking of short rides. We have an annual campout with some old friends > that visit every August from Wisconsin. Every year we'd go for a weekend of > car-camping at

[RBW] FS: EWR "Yazoo" Wool SS Jersey $35

Nice short-sleeved jersey by Earth, Wind, and Rider with the Yazoo (microbrew) logo. I’ve worn it a few times, but it’s in like new condition. Logo on the front is knitted into the fabric; rear is embroidered. Size XXL is 22” across the armpits, 28” top to bottom at the back. Short zipper in

Re: [RBW] FS: EWR "Yazoo" Wool SS Jersey $35

Sale pending on the jersey. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com > On Aug 9, 2016, at 12:59 PM, Eric Norris wrote: > > Nice short-sleeved jersey by Earth, Wind, and Rider with the Yazoo > (microbrew) logo. I’ve worn it a few times,

Re: [RBW] Re: RBW / BQ inspired steel lugged custom

Thanks Jack! The rear hub is a White Industries T11; the skewer is Paul's: https://paulcomp.com/shop/components/quick-release-skewers/ I like them and they look good, don't they? You can get them in silver, black or Rasta as well. René On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Jack K

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s?

My blue 54 Rambouillet is RB 1222. Hilsen lugs and two sets of braze-ons on the seatstays. None on forks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

Actually they are Shimano shifters mates to IRD levers. I think Shimano makes the best friction shifter out there but you can use any shifters on these and they come in silver which genevalles don't. We keep plenty in stock in case anyone wants a pair. -- You received this message because

[RBW] Re: Clipless or Clips?

never tried clipless and simply have never wanted to. I ride two bikes with spiked flat platform pedals. My go-fast I ride MKS Neuvo Wide pedals with Ale clips and Binda straps. Just bought some Mamnick Hibbell touring shoes for my birthday treat and like them, too. -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

as usual good point and I bet your buyer was thrilled to get such a deal On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 2:04:51 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > The problems with selling a used custom steel bike are two-fold. First is > that you have to come to grips with the fact that a custom frame is >

[RBW] Latest Roscoe Bubbe

Well, I need to have a name for a color when describing a color. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: FS Bags, Racks, etc.

Bump! I'd sell the Nitto R-10, extra 23cm stays, and the Revelate Jerrycan as a package for $100.00 Shipped CONUS. On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 9:02:54 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote: > > The Nitto F-16 has sold. Items 2, 4, 6, and 7 are still available. As a > reminder, the extras stays

[RBW] CSJ: Non-moose Boscos

Just noticed that the 2016 Clems (one of which is my anxiously awaited/still awaiting 52c green pre-order) are shipping with normal, non-bullmoose Boscos. I suppose it's silly to be disappointed, but I have always liked the integrated look of the various bullmoose variants, and also thought

[RBW] Re: Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

My guess would be Gevenall (http://gevenalle.com/product-category/shifters/). Really cool options they've come up with. I like the thought of using one of the Shimano Dyna-Sys derailleurs with a super wide 1 X 10/11. Not that I have any plans to set one up, but. Kurt Henry Lancaster, PA

[RBW] Re: RBW / BQ inspired steel lugged custom

Rene', Definitely a thoughtfully designed and well proportioned machine. Very nice indeed! What is the rear hub and rear skewer? The skewer in particular I don't recognize. Cheers and safe riding! -Jack Raleigh, NC On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 9:03:54 PM UTC-4, René wrote: > > Thanks Ryan.

[RBW] Re: 30k Riv Romulus report

Hi, Joe, That's a nice anecdote. I keep my mileage, and tried to record when I change tires and wheels, but there is so much movement/rotation of parts it's hard to keep track. Incidentally, I got my first Romulus in 2004 (and second one in 2007) but didn't keep either beyond 2009. Now all my

[RBW] Re: A question for Soma San Marcos Owners (V2 in Tiburon blue)

I have a 47cm 2nd generation with 650b X 38 Soma New Express tires. I have the velo orange hammered 650b fenders on it. It works out 90% of the time. The other 10% of the time I am digging out pine needles between the fender and the tire after I just took it through the woods. I take this

[RBW] Wool Shirts/Jerseys

I'm looking to buy (on list or off) a wool T shirt/Jersey/Other to use in conjunction with another wool t shirt that I already have on a 10 day tour. Anyone have any favorites? I like the idea of the pockets in a Jersey, but they're expensive and I don't like the idea of wearing a "jersey" ;-)

[RBW] Hunquapillar for Sale - 58cm Complete

Hi Everyone, I have a 58cm Hunquapillar for sale. Why am I selling it? I don't want to, but I realize that I'm probably not going to bike camp or tour any time soon, and if I do I'll use my AHH for an S24O. At any rate, I need room for some other bike stuff I have going and I figured I'll

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

I'd also be interested to hear from those who are in a position to compare the Cheviot to the Clem L-Style. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 12:07:56 PM UTC-5, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > If I recall Bob Brown makes some very nice bikes ...could try posting the > bike here or internet-bob, I would think > > On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 10:58:02 AM UTC-5, SeanMac wrote: >> >> Wow - what a bunch of enablers

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

The problems with selling a used custom steel bike are two-fold. First is that you have to come to grips with the fact that a custom frame is valuable because it is custom. The freedom to change things until they are perfect for you is valuable. That value is completely spent once the bike

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

These posts make me happy I ordered a Cheviot. I have never ridden one. I tried to talk my wife into a 55cm so she could ride along with me on my Sam. She said no. So I ordered a 60cm for myself. Snooze she loses. I'm excited to see the difference between the Sam and Cheviot. The Cheviot

[RBW] Re: Clipless or Clips?

clips and straps for me with Sidi Touring shoes that Rivendell used to sell...just breaking in the 2nd of 2 pairs I bought in 2000 or 2001; Pedals - MKS Royal Nuevo / Sylvan Track/Stream and Campagnolo Track pedals. No cleats. The Stream pedals don't have a flip tab...sometimes the tab can be

Re: [RBW] Latest Roscoe Bubbe

Normally this would be the cue to say "A picture is worth 1,000 words" but when it comes to color, pictures can be so horribly misleading. On 08/09/2016 03:24 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: Well, I need to have a name for a color when describing a color. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Clipless or Clips?

I have roughly a dozen bikes and have clipless pedals on only one - a custom Mercian built with modern Campy components. One bike has regular old 2-sided city pedals with no clips or straps - I use it for shopping and getting around in the city. All the rest have old school toe clip & strap

Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

On 08/09/2016 03:04 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: The problems with selling a used custom steel bike are two-fold. First is that you have to come to grips with the fact that a custom frame is valuable because it is custom. The freedom to change things until they are perfect for you is valuable.

[RBW] Clipless or Clips?

I cannot stand clips and straps and find them hugely annoying...but that is just me. My stable goes like this...One mountain bike is using thin gripsters, the other mountain bike is using xt clipless. The carbon road bike is using Look Keo Classic pedals with Sidi shoes. The Touring bike is

[RBW] Re: GF looking for riv bike size 50

We have 47/50cm Saluki/Hilsens, 46cm Appaloosas, 45/51cm Clems & Clementines & 51cm Sams IN STOCK. 50cm Cheviots on the way Dave Schonenberg http://www.rivbike.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: CSJ: Non-moose Boscos

How have you determined that Clem-completes are now shipping with non-bullmoose bars? All of the Clem Completes in the "ready to ride" section of rivbike.com have bullmooses. The catalog sure says it's bullmooses. Is it possible that you might be looking at photos of bikes posted by people

[RBW] Re: Cheviot (or Sam)

Let's see the Bob Brown! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Olympic Bike Racing, Cobbles, and tire width

Sure looked to me like she slipped when she hit the center stripe. On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 6:20:50 AM UTC-4, ascpgh wrote: > > When picking tires for that course, I wonder how many considered the > moisture? That section where the Dutch rider went down looked moist, like > from

[RBW] Re: Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

are seriously classy with those nice WI hubs (M15 I'm guessing) , crank and Paul racer brakes. I wonder who makes those brake levers? ..neat to see how they integrate the braking with barend shifters. On Tuesday, August 9, 2016 at 12:27:11 PM UTC-5, drew wrote: > > Those black sams. --