[RBW] Re: MIT Homer pre-order

[Drew Henson]

I (pre)ordered one the other day. I’ve been wanting an an AHH for a while now 
but the MUSA frames were just out of my budget, so I jumped at the MIT version. 
Admittedly I’d prefer the more horizontal top tube and shorter wheel base, but 
what can you do.  My only bike now is an elephant Nfe which is low trail and 
pretty “lively” and a lot of fun to ride, but I think the AHH will make an 
awesome partner for days I want something more stable and comfortable. That’s 
the plan anyway. 

Side note: I’ve seen a guy lately cruising around West Seattle and downtown 
Seattle on an Atlantis with double tt. Looks awesome.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: TdF pros are using oversize rear derailer pulleys. Should you? Or, trickle... up? Cycle technology

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

Reed, that’s my recollection too. However, Shimano did the large pulley thing 
to increase chain wrap and not to reduce friction. To be honest, this friction 
reason may be measurable, but inconsequential (much like extreme 
weight-weenieism). 1-odd Watts of savings? Pfft! My farts have more thrust that 
that!

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[RBW] Re: Do you have a ROHLOFF hub on your bike ?

[Jon BALER]

I have a Rohloff on my touring bike (Salsa Marrakesh).  I have had the Rohloff 
since late 2014, and very happy with it for touring.  I have done multi week 
tours with it every year, and occasionally use it for commuting too.

Being able to shift while stopped is a big advantage on a heavily loaded bike.  
I can also shift quickly to lower gears quickly while riding when needed.  I'm 
a big guy  (220+ lbs) and carry heavy loads, and the hub has been trouble free.

Jon
Ellicott City, MD

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Cheviot first impressions & pics

[Tim O. (Portland, OR)]

This looks soo good. Clean. 

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Cheviot first impressions & pics

[Gabriel Bruguier]

Thanks for the kind words everyone!

Virgil, my main concern was to have the brake cable secured in the cable 
stop somehow and to not just rub against the edge of the stop.  The link 
above to Joe's build shows that he used a part from a brake noodle to put 
in the stop.  But I also wanted to center the cable on the top of the 
downtime (the stop is off center) before I connected it to the cable 
hanger.  So, I ordered one of these clamp on cable stops 
, 
centered it an inch and a half down from the stop, and ran a bit of cable 
between them. Brake operation feels smooth and strong.  It adds an extra 
piece, which irritates my minimalist sensibilities, but oh well.

Jon, measuring at the outer knobs, the tire is between 50-51mm wide.  Yes, 
every ride I'm appreciating the bike's qualities more and more.  I can't 
wait to spend all day on it!

Jason, this video 

 
shows that Paul ran a 45mm fender & 32mm tire in the Racer Mediums.  The 
Racers are larger-- I read somewhere that there's 54mm between the pivots. 
 So maybe 50mm with 45s?  



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[RBW] Re: TdF pros are using oversize rear derailer pulleys. Should you? Or, trickle... up? Cycle technology

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 6:18:34 PM UTC-4, ian m wrote: Does this make 
the Altus like the best kept secret in racing tech of the century?

I don't know, but it makes my post the best-kept secret on RBW ;^)
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/qexOy5NTv1E


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[RBW] Roadeo, orange Sams and Roadinis

[Joe Bernard]

The Roadeo page is back, they're built to order with a deposit. 

New orange pics on the Sam and Roadini pages. Sparkly!

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[RBW] Re: Tubus Racks for sale

[Steve Butcher]

Both racks have sold.  Thanks!

Steve

On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 5:36:41 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
> As my touring goals have changed, I'm offering sale the following:  Tubus 
> Tara low rider front rack with mounting bolts and spacers and Tubus Cargo 
> Evo rear rack with B battery powered rear light.  I purchased the racks 
> from list members, mounted them on my bike, fitted then removed panniers, 
> and have not used them for any touring.  The racks are in excellent, 
> undamaged condition and have a few minor scuffs related to mounting and 
> pannier fitting.  They have always been stored indoors.  An on-line 
> supplier of Tubus racks lists a pair like this for approximately $210.00 
> plus shipping.  The B rear rack light lists for $45.00 from RBW.  I want 
> to sell the entire package for $160.00 plus shipping CONUS.  Paypal is 
> preferred payment mode.  Please PM me off list with questions.  I have also 
> listed this on i-BOB.  Thanks for looking.
>
> Steve Butcher
> Stockton, Missouri
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Huge pizza rack

[Joe Bernard]

SOLD

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell West and East Meet Up

[dougP]

Manny:

Sounds like a wonderful trip & esp. great first experience for Ashley 
overseas.  So many photos; you never put the camera down.  Amazing those 
light show things.  Yea, that makes Japan look like a must-see.  Hey, you 
take different photos than Jan Heine does.  Variety is good.

dougP

On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 at 2:19:38 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> This list has been a shinning light of my life. Meeting so many new people 
> from so many different parts of the world. Sharing a connection of a great 
> bike company and great ethos its great to have a connection with folks with 
> Rivendell because you always know you'll meet great people. 
>
> Thanks to everyone who gave suggestions and a very special thanks to 
> Takashi for taking the time to travel 4 hours come to Toyko to meet us! Not 
> only did he recommend the Hatagaya  Blue Lug store and the Lug Cafe he also 
> sent the lovely folks at Blug Lug an email that we were coming. 
>
> Having the time to hang out with Takashi for a short while was a huge 
> highlight of the trip so far. We shared stories of our experiences with 
> Rivendell and our connection to amazing quality and functional goods made 
> us gravitated towards Rivendell which is a common theme when I meet most 
> people connected with Rivendell.
>
> The folks at Blug Lug were gracious and helpful at both locations. I was 
> telling Takashi Blue Lug reminds me of Rivendell with more dangles and 
> slight touches that make it their own. When we first got there we met 
> Felipe who recognized me because of my Lucky Duck Cafe Shirt and mutual 
> friends from Oakland and his Clint from Velo Orange who were outside of 
> blue lug trying to put their bikes together. We ended up seeing each other 
> at the Lug Cafe and having a coffee and sharing our stories with Takashi. 
>
> Sadly Takashi had to leave early so we took one last photo together 
>  before parting ways. We went back the the 
> shop and was helped by Chuyan who I found out hanged out and stayed with 
> Will and Roman! He was super helpful and made Ashley and I so welcome. This 
> being my wife first international trip I was explaining to her that 
> traveling anywhere and opening yourself up to people around you can yield 
> experiences and friendships that can last a lifetime! Thanks again to 
> Takashi for the taking the time to share your day and you stories. You 
> always have a friend here in the states!
>
> Pictures proved that Rivendell brings people together
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskCyFWjV
>
> Manuel "ありがとうございます" Acosta
>

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[RBW] Re: (Belated) New (to me) Bike Day: Rambouillet!

['Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That is a great color green! What a good looking bike - not as adorable as 
I'm sure your new baby will be, but still...!

Eamon
Seattle

>
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell West and East Meet Up

[ian m]

Is that a restroom with 8 different varieties of TP for the discerning 
wiper? I've never wanted to visit Japan more than after seeing that

On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 at 5:19:38 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> This list has been a shinning light of my life. Meeting so many new people 
> from so many different parts of the world. Sharing a connection of a great 
> bike company and great ethos its great to have a connection with folks with 
> Rivendell because you always know you'll meet great people. 
>
> Thanks to everyone who gave suggestions and a very special thanks to 
> Takashi for taking the time to travel 4 hours come to Toyko to meet us! Not 
> only did he recommend the Hatagaya  Blue Lug store and the Lug Cafe he also 
> sent the lovely folks at Blug Lug an email that we were coming. 
>
> Having the time to hang out with Takashi for a short while was a huge 
> highlight of the trip so far. We shared stories of our experiences with 
> Rivendell and our connection to amazing quality and functional goods made 
> us gravitated towards Rivendell which is a common theme when I meet most 
> people connected with Rivendell.
>
> The folks at Blug Lug were gracious and helpful at both locations. I was 
> telling Takashi Blue Lug reminds me of Rivendell with more dangles and 
> slight touches that make it their own. When we first got there we met 
> Felipe who recognized me because of my Lucky Duck Cafe Shirt and mutual 
> friends from Oakland and his Clint from Velo Orange who were outside of 
> blue lug trying to put their bikes together. We ended up seeing each other 
> at the Lug Cafe and having a coffee and sharing our stories with Takashi. 
>
> Sadly Takashi had to leave early so we took one last photo together 
>  before parting ways. We went back the the 
> shop and was helped by Chuyan who I found out hanged out and stayed with 
> Will and Roman! He was super helpful and made Ashley and I so welcome. This 
> being my wife first international trip I was explaining to her that 
> traveling anywhere and opening yourself up to people around you can yield 
> experiences and friendships that can last a lifetime! Thanks again to 
> Takashi for the taking the time to share your day and you stories. You 
> always have a friend here in the states!
>
> Pictures proved that Rivendell brings people together
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskCyFWjV
>
> Manuel "ありがとうございます" Acosta
>

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[RBW] Rivendell West and East Meet Up

[Manuel Acosta]

This list has been a shinning light of my life. Meeting so many new people 
from so many different parts of the world. Sharing a connection of a great 
bike company and great ethos its great to have a connection with folks with 
Rivendell because you always know you'll meet great people. 

Thanks to everyone who gave suggestions and a very special thanks to 
Takashi for taking the time to travel 4 hours come to Toyko to meet us! Not 
only did he recommend the Hatagaya  Blue Lug store and the Lug Cafe he also 
sent the lovely folks at Blug Lug an email that we were coming. 

Having the time to hang out with Takashi for a short while was a huge 
highlight of the trip so far. We shared stories of our experiences with 
Rivendell and our connection to amazing quality and functional goods made 
us gravitated towards Rivendell which is a common theme when I meet most 
people connected with Rivendell.

The folks at Blug Lug were gracious and helpful at both locations. I was 
telling Takashi Blue Lug reminds me of Rivendell with more dangles and 
slight touches that make it their own. When we first got there we met 
Felipe who recognized me because of my Lucky Duck Cafe Shirt and mutual 
friends from Oakland and his Clint from Velo Orange who were outside of 
blue lug trying to put their bikes together. We ended up seeing each other 
at the Lug Cafe and having a coffee and sharing our stories with Takashi. 

Sadly Takashi had to leave early so we took one last photo together 
 before parting ways. We went back the the shop 
and was helped by Chuyan who I found out hanged out and stayed with Will 
and Roman! He was super helpful and made Ashley and I so welcome. This 
being my wife first international trip I was explaining to her that 
traveling anywhere and opening yourself up to people around you can yield 
experiences and friendships that can last a lifetime! Thanks again to 
Takashi for the taking the time to share your day and you stories. You 
always have a friend here in the states!

Pictures proved that Rivendell brings people together
https://flic.kr/s/aHskCyFWjV

Manuel "ありがとうございます" Acosta

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Re: [RBW] Re: Oh the humidity!

[Lum Gim Fong]

Should I say 90 when i rode in, 76 after the storm!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Oh the humidity!

[Lum Gim Fong]

90F 85% humidity in Laurel, MD now. Got to destination right before the 
downpour started. Hot hot hot!!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Oh the humidity!

[Rod Holland]

Had a nice 31-mile ride through Eastern Massachusetts, 96degF and 50% 
relative humidity (I think). Ride report 
at https://www.bikeforums.net/20492484-post7556.html. Similar conditions 
today, but I'm sitting it out; turns out to be the second day of an ozone 
alert; noticed the haze yesterday, and then found out that had a name. 
Drank a liter and a half of water, evaporative cooling worked like a charm: 
sweat is our friend, at least while the bike is moving. I grew up in South 
Georgia, so I'm used to worse.

rod

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[RBW] Re: Jack Brown green/Cypres/Compass 32/ impressions?

[S. Greco]

I like the Cypres the best, but enjoy the ride on the JBs and didn't notice 
too much of a difference. 
All of my Cypres tires stretched considerably over time - luckily I had 
enough room to accolade the embiggening.
I had a set of Stampede pass that were noticeably undersized which may have 
been intended to account for stretch over time.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville, Crust fork, Simworks, Zefal etc.

[Drw]

Here is what is left

*Sackville Saddlesack Medium-* Tan, very good with a few dusty areas at 
worst. Leather bottom version, which i think is the nicer one. *185$ 
shipped*

*Jetboil  flash-* new/never used. Some dust from sitting. Comes with 
everything you see. I never learned how to use these little propane 
things.60$ shipped.

*Jandd mini mountain panniers*- really love these, but they see very little 
use. Great small-medium size with expanding capabilities and decent looks. 
Great condition. Specs here-https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FMMP
 
80$ shipped

*Filson Mackinaw Cruiser*- musa. forest green. 24oz wool. amazing coat, but 
too warm for southern california. 38 long. basically a medium. very very 
good condition. 190$ shipped. photos upon request. 155$ shipped

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Re: [RBW] Jack Brown green/Cypres/Compass 32/ impressions?

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I've ridden all 3 tires on my Hilsen. I went from JBs to Cypres first and there 
was no noticeable difference. I mean no difference, plus I got more flats than 
the JBs. So I went back to JBs. Then Compass started their own line. I was 
hesitant but thought I'd give them a go. I installed 32mm Stampede Pass and the 
difference was amazing! I fell in love with Compass tires and I regret it all 
of the time. Why? Because they are a total pain in the... They wear super fast 
(I'm a heavy rider and only get around 1500 miles on a rear tire) and they cost 
a small fortune. I've tried to move away from them and I may yet but so far 
nothing compares to the pillow soft ride so when Trigger needs new shoes, he 
still gets Compass... 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne 52 Sage

[Paul Choi]

I can also sell the f/f/h/s for $950 plus shipping. 

On Friday, August 3, 2018 at 7:34:58 AM UTC-7, Paul Choi wrote:
>
> I'm sorry to let this one go but I need to make room for a Cheviot. I hope 
> this can go a good home. This frame was purchased in the fall of 2017 and 
> another list member (Benz) built it up for me. All the parts were new 
> except for the Velocity Synergy rims which came from this list. It has 
> around 150 miles on it. Excellent condition. $1800 plus shipping. I'm in 
> Santa Clara, CA. PM call text for more information. 4156094936
>
> Silver double cranks
> VP pedals
> Shimano V brakes
> Brooks B17 saddle
> Panaracer Gravelking 650b x42
> Shimano Altus rear deraileur
> Shimano Claris front deraileur
> ESI Extra Chunky grips wrapped
> Sunrace brake levers
> Microshift shifters
> King Iris cages
>

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[RBW] Re: (Belated) New (to me) Bike Day: Rambouillet!

[RichS]

Serendipity! Nicely done. Congratulations on your baby too!

Regards,
Rich in ATL

On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 8:51:41 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> I'd recently been finding myself pining after the aesthetic of many 
> mid-2000's Rivendells, looking longingly at pictures the Quickbeam I used 
> to have but sold to another list member (hey, Wally!), when a 64cm 
> Rambouillet popped up on a nearby craigslist. It seemed like just the 
> thing, with the usual spot-on Rivendell build and some really nice 
> finishing touches: Dura-Ace hubs, hammered Honjos, Gilles Berthoud bag, 
> titanium B.17.  I decided to move on a few other projects and spring for 
> this one.  Connecting with the buyer and seeing the bike was one of those 
> "it's meant to be" moments: he literally lived across the street from my 
> sister-in-law's apartment, and when I hopped on to test ride, the saddle 
> was already in the perfect position for me--no adjustments needed.  
>
> And that's kind of the point with this bike.  I usually like having 
> projects, building or re-building my bikes so they're a reflection of me.  
> But I have a baby on the way any minute now, and probably will have less 
> time and attention for projects moving forward.  The Rambouillet is done up 
> so nicely I don't feel the need to change anything on it just yet.  I 
> bought it thinking I'd put drop bars on it, but the Albatross build is 
> reminding me of when I had my Quickbeam and Long Haul Trucker set up 
> similarly and I'm really enjoying it, at least on the short rides I've done 
> so far.  The handling is great with a few pounds in the Berthoud bag.  
>
> Pictures here: 
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmqiuhka 
>
> Being red-green colorblind, I'm usually not one to really notice paint 
> jobs, but this one is really nice!  There is something about the 
> Rambouillets' paint, maybe it's the pearl coat that they used, that gives 
> it a real depth.  Ironically, the red-green colorblind guy has ended up 
> with two green Rivendells (my Clem is also green), but I'm really happy 
> about it. Looking forward to many great miles on it! 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Jack Brown green/Cypres/Compass 32/ impressions?

[Patrick Moore]

I've ridden only the Compass Elk Pass model, labeled 32 but more like 29.
Compared to the JB Greens on my Sam Hillborne, the EPs feel faster; they
are certainly thinner and more supple.

The JBGs were so to speak a mean between the non-TG 32 mm Paselas and the
Compasses. Good tires, but not as good as the EPs.

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> How do the Jack Browns (green) compare to the GB Cypres or Compass 32 you
> have ridden?
>
> Thanks for your thoughts.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Going out on the GAP Sunday and Monday

[R Shannon]

Looks like you had a fine trip. Thanks so much for all the pics. Your Ram
looks mighty fine too!

Regards,
Rich in ATL

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> So many great photos, and familiar views!  It brought back pleasant
> memories from my trip down.  Thanks for the fun, and am looking forward to
> any narrative you might share with us.
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[RBW] Jack Brown green/Cypres/Compass 32/ impressions?

[Lum Gim Fong]

How do the Jack Browns (green) compare to the GB Cypres or Compass 32 you 
have ridden?

Thanks for your thoughts.

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[RBW] FS: Summer cleaning: stems/ brakes/ seatposts/ misc. items

[Michael Williams]

Hello all,  just doing some summer bike parts cleaning.  Have some parts for 
sale,  all prices include shipping.
-Brooks C19 , slate gray.   $95
-Nitto Technomic Stem/ 10cm/ 25.4 clamp $32
-Velo Orange Quill Stem with removable faceplate( brand new/ nickel finish) 
9cm/ 31.8 clamp. $68
- 2 Velo Orange long setback seatposts. 27.2( one has been cut to 240mm length. 
  $40 for standard one, $35 for short one.
-Shimano CX70 brakes(pair) $80
-Shimano bar end shifter pods-2pair $15 each
- Shimano brake levers $12
- Toppeak frame pump- 51.5cm long from end to end $12
- Shimano XT rapid rise rear derailleur, long cage $15
- Shimano 105 front derailleur 28.6 clamp. $10

I have pictures but can’t seem to upload them.  Deals given for multiple items, 
 thanks!   -Mike

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[RBW] Re: Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[Jonathan D.]

Erik - your die report makes me think the complete Jones SWB might be a great 
option. I am hoping there will be a few ride reports and maybe a used one will 
pop up. 

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[RBW] Re: Do you have a ROHLOFF hub on your bike ?

[ian m]

Please do! A Rohlapillar is my dream build

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> I must get around to posting pictures of my bikes, half of which I bought 
> from people on this list.

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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for '84 Trek 720

[Jacob]

Not an answer to any of your questions: I have also used 130mm on a 126mm. 
The 2mm on either side makes almost no difference, like Paul and Sheldon 
said.  It's a bit tight, but single-handedly manageable.  Opens up more 
options.  The beauty of steel.

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[RBW] Re: Going out on the GAP Sunday and Monday

[Pondero]

So many great photos, and familiar views!  It brought back pleasant 
memories from my trip down.  Thanks for the fun, and am looking forward to 
any narrative you might share with us.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Long shot: Does anyone have a used pair of SimWorks fenders to sell?

[Patrick Moore]

https://sim.works/collections/fenders-simworks-by-honjo/products/flat-65-black?variant=5250539257885

I'm looking for a set to modify as shorty fenders for my Matthews, per the
earlier thread, but can't justify $151 + shipping (or, if I can justify it
eventually, our brief monsoon will have passed and it will all be too
late). Also, not sure that these will be a huge improvement over the
too-tightly-arched PB Cascadias, but willing to pay used price to try it
out.

The modifications mean cutting the rear to run from cs bridge to about 14"
aft of seatstay bridge; and cutting the front to ~10" forward of the crown
and ~14" aft of it, with stays running from either forward end or aft end
to top lowrider mounts; this shortening to avoid TCO.

Again, long shot, I know, but just in case 

 thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for '84 Trek 720

[Paul Clifton]

I have this wheelset on my 1984 Trek 720, and I'm really happy with it: H 
Plus Son TB14 rims and Shimano 105 hubs.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/H-plus-Son-TB14-Silver-Rims-Road-Bike-Wheelset-Shimano-105-5800-Hubs-8-11s-/331752995382?hash=item4d3e04fa36

I haven't loaded it up much, but I have ridden the wheels for several years 
now and haven't had any trouble from them.

I do have to spread the rear dropouts to get the hub in, but I did not 
respace the chainstays. Sheldon says 2 mm on each side won't matter. It 
does take a little bit of strength to get the wheel in. Once it's in, it's 
fine.

Everything works with a cassette just fine. Even with the 80s Shimano 
derailers (can't remember the model). I don't remember if I'm running 8, or 
9 speed. Probably 8 because I scavenged the cassette from an old Sora group.

The bike has the Shimano cantis (probably M732 like your friends). Aligning 
the pads is no problem.

Converting to 700c made it possible to fit a 38mm tire (with quite tight 
clearance). A supple 35 would be better probably.

Paul in ATL

On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 at 8:23:41 AM UTC-4, jandrews wrote:
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> Hi
>
> This question is for the *alta cockers*
>
> Asking for a good friend who has an early '80's Trek 720 touring bike.
>
> We have a mini tour planned later in the month.  Riv content is, I'll be 
> on my S.H. or Protovelo.
>
> He needs a new wheelset.  The specs are 126mm rear triangle. 700c.
> He's definitely on a budget and looking to keep the costs relatively 
> low...but would like to have a strong wheelset capable of putting on the 
> miles.
>
> I don't know enough about old hubs to advise him.
> Seems like his options are:
>
>1. Buy a used wheelset off of eBay or a list that we could just plug 
>and play
>2. Buy some NOS or lightly used front and rear hubs off of eBay or a 
>list and have a new set of wheels built that may be a little more robust 
>and modern than something we find used
>3. Buy a new Velo Orange PBP 100/126 wheelset at around $400
>4. Get the rear triangle re-spaced to 130mm and all of a sudden, a lot 
>more hubs/wheels are open to us at potentially a better cost.
>
> Also, we have a couple of questions related to the above...
>
>1. Is there a practical difference in usage between a 126mm freewheel 
>hub and a 126mm cassette hubs beyond just the type of cluster used?  in 
>other words, is there any reason to think that a frame designed for a 6 
>speed freewheel would have any issue with a 6 speed cassette?
>2. Similarly, am I correct in thinking that a 7 speed 
>freewheel/cassette would also fit on a hub originally designed for a 6 
>speed freewheel/cassette?
>
> Thank you
>
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[RBW] Re: Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[S. Greco]

I'm a huge fan of the Ahearnes. They are the only bars that knocked 
Albatrosses off some of my bikes and replaced Jitensha bars (my other 
faves) on the other rides. They have enough room to run thumbies and/or a 
bell and still have a few comfortable hand positions. I've had both the 
wide and normal widths and didn't notice a huge difference. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Clem L 52 or 59

[Justin, Oakland]

Frame ideally but would be open to complete depending on details. 

-J

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[RBW] TdF pros are using oversize rear derailer pulleys. Should you? Or, trickle... up? Cycle technology

[Bill Eberle in Columbus, Ohio]

I have Altus "big wheelers" on two of my bikes. When Shimano brings out the 
same in XTR I'll be first in line to buy.

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[RBW] FS: Sackville, Crust fork, Simworks, Zefal etc.

[Jacob]

PM sent on the pump

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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for '84 Trek 720

[jandrews]

Thanks Bob, 
It appears my friend already "converted" to 700c a couple years ago by 
installing Shimano M732 Canti brakes which allow 700c rims to be used on 
that frame.
Jason



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> Found 'em:
>
> https://www.harriscyclery.net/product/harris-cyclery-700c-sun-cr-18-rims-w-sealed-hubs-qr-wheelset-freewheel-3343.htm
>
> Note the warning at the bottom that does state heavier riders and/or those 
> touring with heavy loads may want to consider custom/purpose built wheels.  
> Not sure how mini your mini tour is but these have otherwise served me well 
> as a budget "general purpose" wheelset to keep some old frames in service.  
> I'm 6'5" and 215lbs but haven't loaded these up with big touring loads.
>
> On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 at 9:11:49 AM UTC-4, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>
>> I forget the cost but a few years ago I bought a 100/126 700c stock 
>> wheelset from Harris Cyclery with Sun CR-18 rims and Formula sealed bearing 
>> hubs for a similar kind of project (just not a tour) but it was at least 
>> less than the $400 VO wheelset.  I paid a small up charge to have them 
>> trued/tensioned before shipping since they were stock wheels and no issues 
>> thus far.  I’ve fit a 7 speed freewheel in 2 different 126 spaced frames 
>> with them. 
>>
>> Best, 
>> Brian Cole 
>> Lawrenceville NJ
>
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[RBW] Re: 60cm Cheviot first impressions & pics

[jandrews]

So great!
enjoy it
I really want one of those slimy green ones in a 60mm.
Any thoughts on how big the 700c tires can get with those brake AND take 
fenders?




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[RBW] Do you have a ROHLOFF hub on your bike ?

[CharlieG]

I’ve got one on my Hunqapillar. Love it. Built the wheel and installed it 
myself, which was easy except for putting the cables around the little bobbin 
in the external shifting mechanism. Have one of the torque arms mounted along 
the chainstay, which is good now that it’s double bolted in place - on my first 
install the torque arm twisted while in a low gear. Admittedly I weigh >120kg, 
which is like 1000lb...

I tow my 15 month old twins to daycare with the Hunqapillar three days a week. 
I must get around to posting pictures of my bikes, half of which I bought from 
people on this list.

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Cheviot first impressions & pics

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

Gabe that's a clean looking machine. You are going to enjoy many miles on 
what I think is the MOST COMFORTABLE  riding bike in my opinion.
I'm curious what the actual tire width is when installed.
Enjoy your new bike.
Jon


>>
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[RBW] Re: Going out on the GAP Sunday and Monday

[ascpgh]

Here's pics, ride report will follow. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ErSUHmvYvjnuks6J8

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh



On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 8:09:52 AM UTC-4, ascpgh wrote:
>
> I have to log my vacation choices more than a year ahead of time and this 
> week was one of my picks, it just didn't mesh well with my wife's work, so 
> I'm taking a solo jaunt south on the GAP to Cumberland.
>
> I will be on the trail at the South Side by about 9:15. Lunch in West 
> Newton, overnight in Ohiopyle.  Monday I'll ride to Cumberland, MD in time 
> to ride Amtrak back to Pittsburgh. I'll clip on my lights and ride home 
> from the station around midnight. 
>
> Seemed like a lot of fun, Just have to finish my breakfast and coffee, 
> print my reservations and head out. I'm on my orange Rambouillet, wave if 
> your out there. Hopefully some good pictures to follow.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Clem L 52 or 59

[lconley]

Frame or complete bike?

On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 10:59:10 PM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote:
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> Just hoping someone has an extra laying around on the cheap. 
>
> -J
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[RBW] Re: TdF pros are using oversize rear derailer pulleys. Should you? Or, trickle... up? Cycle technology

[ian m]

Anyway, I hope to see more options with larger pulley derailers. As much as 
I love the Altus it is definitely not made to last

On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 6:18:34 PM UTC-4, ian m wrote:
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>
> 
>
> Does this make the Altus like the best kept secret in racing tech of the 
> century?
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[RBW] Re: TdF pros are using oversize rear derailer pulleys. Should you? Or, trickle... up? Cycle technology

[ian m]

Unless I'm missing something that looks to be 12/11 tooth pulleys?



On Monday, August 6, 2018 at 5:05:21 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
>How low can we go ? ! ! !  
> http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Cyclo_Oppy_derailleur.html
>
>
>  
>
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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for '84 Trek 720

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Found 'em:
https://www.harriscyclery.net/product/harris-cyclery-700c-sun-cr-18-rims-w-sealed-hubs-qr-wheelset-freewheel-3343.htm

Note the warning at the bottom that does state heavier riders and/or those 
touring with heavy loads may want to consider custom/purpose built wheels.  
Not sure how mini your mini tour is but these have otherwise served me well 
as a budget "general purpose" wheelset to keep some old frames in service.  
I'm 6'5" and 215lbs but haven't loaded these up with big touring loads.

On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 at 9:11:49 AM UTC-4, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> I forget the cost but a few years ago I bought a 100/126 700c stock 
> wheelset from Harris Cyclery with Sun CR-18 rims and Formula sealed bearing 
> hubs for a similar kind of project (just not a tour) but it was at least 
> less than the $400 VO wheelset.  I paid a small up charge to have them 
> trued/tensioned before shipping since they were stock wheels and no issues 
> thus far.  I’ve fit a 7 speed freewheel in 2 different 126 spaced frames 
> with them. 
>
> Best, 
> Brian Cole 
> Lawrenceville NJ

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[RBW] WTB: Clem L 52 or 59

[Justin, Oakland]

Well duh. 
I’m on a tight budget my friend!
-J

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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for '84 Trek 720

[Bob Lovejoy]

I would verify that the existing wheels are 700c.  The early 80's Trek 
720's were, I believe, spec'ed with 27" wheels.  If it uses caliper brakes 
(which I have seen on some 728's), then it could be no problem.  If his 720 
has cantilevers, a conversion from 27" to 700c is possible but can make 
brake choice an issue.

Might be worth verifying what is on there now.  I do have some very nice, 
well built 36h, 126mm 700c wheels if you want more specifics.

Thanks,

Bob


On Tuesday, August 7, 2018 at 7:23:41 AM UTC-5, jandrews wrote:
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> Hi
>
> This question is for the *alta cockers*
>
> Asking for a good friend who has an early '80's Trek 720 touring bike.
>
> We have a mini tour planned later in the month.  Riv content is, I'll be 
> on my S.H. or Protovelo.
>
> He needs a new wheelset.  The specs are 126mm rear triangle. 700c.
> ...
>

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[RBW] FS: D2R2 Entries

[Tim Bantham]

Hello Riv Riders, I have two registrations available for the annual D2R2 
ride in Western Massachusetts taking place on Saturday 8/18. I purchased 
them both for $80 back in January. I am willing to let them go for $70 for 
one entry or $130 for both if you would like to take a friend. You can use 
the entry on any one of the route options. Transferring is easy. You pay me 
directly (I prefer PayPal)  and I Email the event director with all of the 
necessary contact info along with the route that you'd like to ride. DM me 
if interested. I will also cross post on iBob. 

See below for course and ride info:

http://www.franklinlandtrust.org/d2r2

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[RBW] Wheelset for '84 Trek 720

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

I forget the cost but a few years ago I bought a 100/126 700c stock wheelset 
from Harris Cyclery with Sun CR-18 rims and Formula sealed bearing hubs for a 
similar kind of project (just not a tour) but it was at least less than the 
$400 VO wheelset.  I paid a small up charge to have them trued/tensioned before 
shipping since they were stock wheels and no issues thus far.  I’ve fit a 7 
speed freewheel in 2 different 126 spaced frames with them.

Best,
Brian Cole
Lawrenceville NJ

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[RBW] Re: Lightning bugs taste sweet. Who knew?

[Virgil Staphbeard]

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:05:31 AM UTC-4, LeRoy wrote:
>
> ...Not so sweet that I felt a great need to increase the sample size...
>

Ha I about spit out my coffee. 

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[RBW] Wheelset for '84 Trek 720

[jandrews]

Hi

This question is for the *alta cockers*

Asking for a good friend who has an early '80's Trek 720 touring bike.

We have a mini tour planned later in the month.  Riv content is, I'll be on 
my S.H. or Protovelo.

He needs a new wheelset.  The specs are 126mm rear triangle. 700c.
He's definitely on a budget and looking to keep the costs relatively 
low...but would like to have a strong wheelset capable of putting on the 
miles.

I don't know enough about old hubs to advise him.
Seems like his options are:

   1. Buy a used wheelset off of eBay or a list that we could just plug and 
   play
   2. Buy some NOS or lightly used front and rear hubs off of eBay or a 
   list and have a new set of wheels built that may be a little more robust 
   and modern than something we find used
   3. Buy a new Velo Orange PBP 100/126 wheelset at around $400
   4. Get the rear triangle re-spaced to 130mm and all of a sudden, a lot 
   more hubs/wheels are open to us at potentially a better cost.

Also, we have a couple of questions related to the above...

   1. Is there a practical difference in usage between a 126mm freewheel 
   hub and a 126mm cassette hubs beyond just the type of cluster used?  in 
   other words, is there any reason to think that a frame designed for a 6 
   speed freewheel would have any issue with a 6 speed cassette?
   2. Similarly, am I correct in thinking that a 7 speed freewheel/cassette 
   would also fit on a hub originally designed for a 6 speed 
   freewheel/cassette?

Thank you

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[Eric Daume]

I really enjoyed a lot about my Jones Plus. It was an amazing technical
climber. It was one of the best descending bikes I’ve owned, rigid or
suspended. Super comfortable. But, I found the inertia of the big 29+ wheel
just too much for my relatively tight trails. I would steer for a sharp
turn, and there was a definite lag as the wheel reacted. I’ve been riding
B+ mtbs lately, and I find that wheel size a better balance of grip,
comfort, and maneuverability. I’m think a Jones SWB might be the bike for
me.

A few other nitpicks about the Jones: the bottom bracket was borderline too
low, even with the EBB in the up position. And the front through axle was a
PITA to use. The little end caps would pop off when inserting a wheel. I
think he uses a different through axle design now.

Eric

On Monday, August 6, 2018, Jonathan D.  wrote:

> Eric. Thanks for the ride reports. I really enjoyed the Clem right up and
> enjoy the blog. I would be curious to know why you sold the Jones. I am
> thinking of rounding out my bikes with a Jones. I currently have a Joe,
> Romulus and Monstercross, and I don’t think there would be much overlap
> with a Jones. This would mean selling a Rambouillet and Sam.
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[RBW] FS: More Nitto! Stems and seatposts

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Tallux and Dirt Drop #1 are spoken for.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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[RBW] Re: Tubus Racks for sale

[Steve Butcher]

The Cargo Evo rear rack has sold.  I'm waiting for a reply on the Tara.

Steve

On Sunday, August 5, 2018 at 5:36:41 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
> As my touring goals have changed, I'm offering sale the following:  Tubus 
> Tara low rider front rack with mounting bolts and spacers and Tubus Cargo 
> Evo rear rack with B battery powered rear light.  I purchased the racks 
> from list members, mounted them on my bike, fitted then removed panniers, 
> and have not used them for any touring.  The racks are in excellent, 
> undamaged condition and have a few minor scuffs related to mounting and 
> pannier fitting.  They have always been stored indoors.  An on-line 
> supplier of Tubus racks lists a pair like this for approximately $210.00 
> plus shipping.  The B rear rack light lists for $45.00 from RBW.  I want 
> to sell the entire package for $160.00 plus shipping CONUS.  Paypal is 
> preferred payment mode.  Please PM me off list with questions.  I have also 
> listed this on i-BOB.  Thanks for looking.
>
> Steve Butcher
> Stockton, Missouri
>
>
>

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[RBW] (Belated) New (to me) Bike Day: Rambouillet!

[Fullylugged]

Great news on bike and baby.  Very nice looking build on that bike.

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[RBW] WTB: Clem L 52 or 59

[Joe Bernard]

Call Riv!

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