[RBW] Re: Favorite grips for bar end shifters?

2019-02-02 Thread eddietheflay
Jones sells bars at 660 and 710 mm. Ergons are just fine on the 660 bars when you put separate levers and shifters in front of the grips. But I think you're correct in the case of the longer bars. On Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 8:20:44 PM UTC-7, Eric Myers wrote: > > Went for a 30 mile ride

Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Joe Appaloosa

2019-02-02 Thread Derek Atkins
I pulled the Joe off eBay. Having second thoughts on keeping it instead of the 59 Clem H I have. In the end, a couple hundred difference in what I might make between the two has me leaning more toward keeping the beautiful Joe and selling the Clem at a good price to someone who wants it. If

[RBW] Re: PSA Rivendell Atlantis Frame

2019-02-02 Thread William!
Thank you to whoever bought this! I already own a 61cm Atlantis but this was such a tempting deal I was considering buying another to have on reserve. Or something. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread ian m
I think I misread the original intent. You want to ride fixed on a vertical dropout utilizing a dingle cog. I stand by what I originally said, using the White Ind dingle chainring would make the most elegant and easy to use setup in conjunction with the Eccentric hub to accommodate for the

Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
But you could do the same with a Sugino crank and the right rings, correct? The OP said that this arrangement would work well, and simply that it didn't require a WI chainring. I'm tempted to do this myself (oh Gawd no, not another project ...) I need (*need, it tell you!*) a winter snow bike

Re: [RBW] Why not bigger clearances?

2019-02-02 Thread Eric Daume
I think in the current Riv design philosophy, as they increase tire clearance, they increase the frame toughness. So don't hold your breath for a Roadini with 2" tire clearance. Eric On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:12 PM Drw wrote: > I mean this as a legitimate question. I would guess that there is

Re: [RBW] Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks, all. I, obviously in asking the question, suspected as much and hoped for more. It looks more and more like I shall embrace delighted contentment with the Hunqabeam for my riding, including the underbiking bits when they come. Considering it handles with aplumb 95% of my milage, it’s an

[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread ian m
I highly recommend using the ENO in dinglespeed form, if possible. Does a fixed dingle cog exist?. I had this set up on a bike some years ago, 16/18 freewheel in back and 38/35 double chainring. You need White Ind cranks too, but those are definitely worth it. This system was super easy to

[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Surly makes the Dingle cog... I have a 17/19 dingle paired with a white ind dos eno 17/19 on a flip/flop hub. Surly may have since discontinued the dingle fixed cogs but they went up to 17/21 I think. You also don’t necessarily need the WI crank... any double crank could achieve the same

[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Brian is correct. Surly stopped making the dinglecog. I ride a 1x2 on my Quickbeam, and on my Hunqabeam a 2x2 (via fix/fix flip flop), yielding a high, med, low. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

2019-02-02 Thread Adam in Indiana
I don't know, I personally would lean toward the second idea, a somewhat special ongoing model. I don't like the idea of a Rivendell collector's frame. On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 5:42:48 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: > Grant mentioned this as a possibility on the latest Blahg, and I'm

[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-02-02 Thread Kieran J
Aftermath of a wet Ram ride a few weeks back. Love this bike. [image: IMG_5731.JPG] KJ On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 11:29:13 AM UTC-8, Adam Leibow wrote: > > hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of your > rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

2019-02-02 Thread Drw
Are there any visual examples of the laterally ovalized tubes grant is talking about on a bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Joe Appaloosa

2019-02-02 Thread Justin Wyne
I was the guy messaging you to work with me off ebay but you didn't want to. Sounds like you are open to it after all On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 8:04:34 AM UTC-8, Derek Atkins wrote: > > I pulled the Joe off eBay. Having second thoughts on keeping it instead of > the 59 Clem H I have. In

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

2019-02-02 Thread Sky Coulter
I like patrick’s notion of an atlantis special model, but as Joe mentioned, it sounds like Grant has a particular idea in mind, but while it sounds like it’ll look cool from the side, i think would be too redundant w my clementine for me. Not that a special model atlantis wouldn’t be redundant

[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-02-02 Thread Kieran J
Aftermath of a wet Ram ride a few weeks back. Love this bike. KJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
That I know. The premise is a dingle and a double chainring where you have 2 combinations adding up to the same number of teeth. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 6:35 PM Eric Daume wrote: > If you make a dinglesoeed with the same teeth count, an ENO will be fine. > However, it still may require tension

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
All Rivendells are collectors' models! For a 25th anniversary model, I'd vote for a Rivendell track bike (with that signature Rivendell handling). If I weren't being facetious, I'd have to say that the Atlantis is probably a very good candidate for a special production model, no, as being the

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

2019-02-02 Thread Joe Bernard
I very much support the idea of a "collectible" 25th model, even if Grant has reservations. I think of it as a gift to ourselves for those of us who've been on the road with them all these years. And I think the 'limited model' status will sell it out. I'm all for Rivs that sell. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

2019-02-02 Thread Ray Varella
I suspect something like a Legolas that takes 50mm 650 tires would attract a fair amount of attention. A bit pared down in stoutness from the current allrounders. A refresh of the original allrounder/XO-1 I’m pretty sure I’d buy one. Ray -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread lconley
The Eno basically has four positions, two for each chain length or cog size. For the short chain or large cog, the Eno is positioned forward and can be either up or down to adjust chain tension. For the long chain or small cog, the Eno is positioned rearward and again, can be positioned up or

Re: [RBW] Re: Why not bigger clearances?

2019-02-02 Thread Addisonwilhite
What size is your AR Craig? I have a 98 model and have been curious about trying a 650 wheel on it. Various widths of 26 inch tires have truly worked well. Addison Reno Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 2, 2019, at 5:38 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > > I see an opening

[RBW] Why not bigger clearances?

2019-02-02 Thread tc
Bigger clearances are certainly becoming the norm. Between the Atlantis and the Bubbe- mountain Mixte, I think those two bikes cover what most folks needs are, esp. if you swap out wheel sets. I like this article on the former, original Atlantis design, and how versatile it is. Smaller

[RBW] Re: pics of a BoscoMoose on a Saluki/AHH/similar head angled bike?

2019-02-02 Thread Justin, Oakland
Jonathan - I believe I just learned about these bad angle Boscos from your Instagram! Glad to hear it. I'm expecting a trip to Riv next week it seems then... -J On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 12:52:20 PM UTC-8, Jonathan K. wrote: > > Justin, > > Your bike won't look like that Cheviot because

Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
I've set up several single speed and fixed gear drivetrains with ENOS on vertical dropout frames using non-White-Industry cranks and have always managed to get very good chainlines by simply choosing the right bb spindle length. Sure, I've used only a single ring and single cog, but with 2 rings

[RBW] Re: Dynamo Hub Frozen?

2019-02-02 Thread lambbo
This is embarrassing but I think it was that the wheel bolt was not tight enough. It hadn't been effecting the dynamo until ice got in, that's what pushed it over the edge and got it stuck. Thanks guys for the advice! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle back and Pro 5 Vis front, say. No need as far as I can see for a White Industries. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m wrote: > Sure, you could run a

Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread ian m
If you don't care about chain line, then sure. The White Ind double chainring gives perfect chain line across two separate gears. I don't think that would be possible with a standard double crankset. Here's a not great photo of the set up [image: CAM00162_zpsa88332ab.JPG] Hard to see but

[RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread ian m
Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up slack, if you were so inclined. The White Industries solution just happens to be not only incredibly practical but also elegant. Keeps your chain length the same, keeps your chain line straight, gives you two gears that

[RBW] Re: pics of a BoscoMoose on a Saluki/AHH/similar head angled bike?

2019-02-02 Thread Jonathan K.
Justin, You're bike won't look like that Cheviot because those are different bars than the regular Boscomoose. There was an early run of the bars that were not built to the correct specs and these were referred to as "bad angle" Boscos. I know because I started a thread about it here, and

[RBW] Re: pics of a BoscoMoose on a Saluki/AHH/similar head angled bike?

2019-02-02 Thread Jonathan K.
Justin, Your bike won't look like that Cheviot because those are different bars than the regular Boscomoose. There was an early run of the bars that were not built to the correct specs and these were referred to as "bad angle" Boscos. I know because I started a thread about it here, and then

[RBW] Re: pics of a BoscoMoose on a Saluki/AHH/similar head angled bike?

2019-02-02 Thread Joe Bernard
Unless you're riding a too-big Saluki with almost no post showing, I don't think it'll work. Saluki/AHH is a dropbar-ish frame, Boscos reach wayyy back and need a long toptube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
Or a chain tensioner. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 4:42 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > No need as far as I can see for a White Industries. > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 1:42 PM ian m wrote: > >> Sure, you could run a triple crank up front and use a derailer to take up >> slack, if you were so inclined.

Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Patrick, that sounds like the perfect use of the ENO eccentric hub and 2x2 set up. Brilliant! With abandon, Patrick, of the Highlands, not the Moor(e). Grin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [RBW] Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Eric Daume
If you make a dinglesoeed with the same teeth count, an ENO will be fine. However, it still may require tension adjustment when you change gears (though the gear teeth add up to the same number, the actual chain length still changes slightly). But if you’re trying to accommodate different teeth

[RBW] Re: PSA Rivendell Atlantis Frame

2019-02-02 Thread dougP
Always good to have spares, just in case. I've had my Atlantis for 16 years & I'll post here first if it ever wears out. dougP On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 9:00:30 AM UTC-8, William! wrote: > > Thank you to whoever bought this! I already own a 61cm Atlantis but this > was such a tempting

Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
Dammit, I'm going to do this myself. Brother has a nice old Bianchi MTB for cheap; vertical drops. Will get ENO; have Dingle; scavenge crankset and buy appropriate rings. In fact, I might just try this with "magic combinations". This will be a very cheap, very occasional use snow bike, and I don't

[RBW] pics of a BoscoMoose on a Saluki/AHH/similar head angled bike?

2019-02-02 Thread Justin, Oakland
Hey folks- Looking for a pic of the BoscoMoose (58cm) on a Saluki/AHH/similarly geometried bike. I have almost talked myself into it for my Saluki to mount my baby seat on. But if it looks like the Cheviot on the product page then that's a No for Me, Dawg. Thanks ahead of time! -J -- You

Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Joe Appaloosa

2019-02-02 Thread Reid Echols
I just made almost the same decision, Justin. Going to see how wide the Joe can go! It was great with 2.1 Thunder Burts. Reid in Austin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Eric Daume
Except I think Deacon is looking at this for a GBW, which has vertical dropouts. On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 6:43 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back and a, say, 42/39 in front, on a > Sugino or Pro 5 Vis or old Suntour XC Pro or what have you; ENO + Dingle > back and Pro 5

Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Joe Appaloosa

2019-02-02 Thread Jonathan D.
I was going to sell mine as well and took off all the racks and made it lighter. I forgot how amazing the bike is. I know the new Atlantis gets all the attention, and it is a great bike, but the Joe is pretty much the same bike. It’s an amazing ride. -- You received this message because you

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-02-02 Thread John M
*"Where in NM?*" I'm in Silver City (where Rivs are more common than you might think). john On Saturday, February 2, 2019 at 5:02:48 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Where in NM? > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 4:19 PM John M > > wrote: > >> >> Hunqapillar from this morning's ride in sunny

Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread Patrick Moore
That's the point! ENO, Dingle in rear, XD2 NN/NN-2 in front! On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 5:22 PM Eric Daume wrote: > Except I think Deacon is looking at this for a GBW, which has vertical > dropouts. > > On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 6:43 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > >> No, I mean run, say a 17/20 in back

Re: [RBW] Re: Eccentric ENO Hub and Fixed Gear Bikepacking

2019-02-02 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
Ian, I’ve ridden the Dos ENO free wheel and now the Surly Dingle Cog with Sugino double. Both work fine. Chainline is a greater issue on paper and in the mind than on the bike. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] FS: Rambouillet - 54cm - $1,300 + shipping CONUS

2019-02-02 Thread Mike K.
Evening all, Putting the Ram back on the market. It's 54cm. Pics are here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/fJcLeXudQ5gKt4Ad9 $1,300 + shipping via bikeflights And here's the build: Seat tube: 54cm Top tube: 55cm Ultegra 6503 triple crank, 172.5mm, 52-42-30 Ultegra 6503 front derailleur Deore M591 9sp