[RBW] Re: Atlantis build - how retro should I go on the drive train?

2019-02-22 Thread Philip Williamson
All this yes. Nine speed is where I've been for a long time, and just jumped to 11sp on some bikes. Larger 11sp cassettes fit on 9sp (8/9/10) hubs, because the biggest cog is dished. You'll be fine for a long time. 10sp doesn't offer me anything, but 11sp cassettes are actually nice. I like

[RBW] FS: Grilver Roadini 57cm w/ Campy Parts

2019-02-22 Thread Doug Bloch
That sounds like a beautiful build. Hopefully you can post some pictures! Doug -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Atlantis build - how retro should I go on the drive train?

2019-02-22 Thread dougP
On the hub question, 8/9/10 speed cassettes all fit the same hubs. With the amount of 9 & 10 speed stuff around, those hubs will be useful for a long time. As to the number of cogs, based on your experience with 10 speed you may want to stick to 8 or 9. 6/7/8 all take the same chain, and 9

[RBW] Re: Indexing 10sp big cassette

2019-02-22 Thread Nick Payne
When Shimano went to 10-speed on road and MTB, they kept the pull ratio the same for road but changed it for MTB, so 10-speed road and MTB are not compatible. If you're using a 10-speed Shimano road shifter and a 10-speed Shimano MTB derailleur and 10-speed cassette, then to get indexed

[RBW] Re: Indexing 10sp big cassette

2019-02-22 Thread Ed Carolipio
I seem to recall - but can't find the reference - that Shimano cable pulls for road/MTB rear derailleurs/shifters were incompatible starting with the 10 speed groups, and continuing with 11sp and 12sp. Here's the Shimano cross compatibility chart (see pg 5 for MTB RDs and pp.15 and 16 for road

Re: [RBW] Indexing 10sp big cassette

2019-02-22 Thread Drw
Ok thanks for this everyone. At least I can now tell myself I wasn’t mechanically inadequate. It sounds like Tanpan is the way to go since I’m already 80% financially committed to this system. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: MicroShift’s New $125 drivetrain

2019-02-22 Thread Justin, Oakland
They make brifters for it. -J On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 5:08:55 PM UTC-8, Albert Steward wrote: > > It uses a proprietary cable pull ratio according to pinkbike - ties you > into their shifter and rules out comboing the rear derailleur with brifters > on a dropbar setup. > > Alas, Sunrace

[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

2019-02-22 Thread Bob Ehrenbeck
Hey Owen! Glad to hear you decided on a Clem and got one shipped to you -- and I'm glad to hear you're lovin' it! Bob E Cranford, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Atlantis build - how retro should I go on the drive train?

2019-02-22 Thread Justin, Oakland
You can even get 8sp 11-40 cassettes. Great for offroading, I think. I rarely want small gaps but prefer the bigger jumps with grunting up a hill. -J On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 7:14:32 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On 2/22/19 9:52 AM, Lefebeaver wrote: > > I'm hearing that it's

Re: [RBW] Indexing 10sp big cassette

2019-02-22 Thread Justin, Oakland
Definitely a case of shifter/derailleur mismatch. You need either the Microshift Thumbie in black, a 10 speed mountain shifter or a Tanpan shiftmate. Or - get a new derailleur. Or switch it to friction. Friction is simplest Tanpan is lowest barrier to indexing Microshift Thumbie is most

[RBW] Re: Ride Report, Brothers in CA

2019-02-22 Thread Friend
Great write up Lambbo. Makes me want check out Tomales! On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 10:40:02 PM UTC-5, lambbo wrote: > > For years now I've been ogling the photos shared here of rides in the SF > area, and thinking about how I could make my way out there with a Rivendell > to do some

Re: [RBW] NAHBS film photo challenge

2019-02-22 Thread Philip Williamson
Thanks for this! I ate it up. When my R09 is gone, I'll get some Diafine. Philip Santa Rosa, CA On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 3:09:13 PM UTC-8, David Bivins wrote: > > The CineStill color processing kit is very simple to use. For black > and white, I either use Diafine with Tri-X shot at

[RBW] Indexing 10sp big cassette

2019-02-22 Thread Dave Redmon
Over the years, I've had at least three cases of rear derailer misalignment that fouled up my shifting. Your LBS has the right tool to check for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Indexing 10sp big cassette

2019-02-22 Thread Drw
Interesting. That could be it. I bought the derailleur, unused, off this list or ibob as “xt long cage clutch” or something like that. Probably a mountain derailleur, So that would maybe make sense. Hmmm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Atlantis build - how retro should I go on the drive train?

2019-02-22 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 2/22/19 9:52 AM, Lefebeaver wrote: I'm hearing that it's getting harder and harder to get a quality 7- or 8-speed cassette and I worry they may go extinct too soon. Speaking only for one particular 8 speed cassette: Shimano discontinued the XTR M900 8 speed 12-32 cassette at least 10

Re: [RBW] Atlantis build - how retro should I go on the drive train?

2019-02-22 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
You could go really old school and go single speed. Grin. Surly cogs and https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/melvin-chain-tensioner/ and you’re good to go! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Atlantis build - how retro should I go on the drive train?

2019-02-22 Thread Joe Bernard
8/9/10 hubs are very common, and a lot of 11-speed hubs come with a spacer you slide on first, then an 8/9/10 cassette. So I'd say go ahead and get your wheels and 8-speed cassette, my guess is the it'll be many years before you have to abandon those gears. -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Indexing 10sp big cassette

2019-02-22 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 2/22/19 9:15 PM, Drw wrote: I’m not the best mechanic, but I’ve been able to set up 8 and 9 speed shifters in friction and index mode just fine. This thing is hurting me though. Setup: -1x10 -11x42 or something like that sunrace cassette -newer xt shadow derailleur with wolftooth roadlink

[RBW] Riv is again advertising the Rodeo on the frames page

2019-02-22 Thread Joe Bernard
All the frame listings have a pic of a bike again, too, instead of headbadges. Someone on the dreaded Paceline forum complained about the badges. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

2019-02-22 Thread hugh flynn
I have yet to find a detailer or brakes that outlast shimano's 7 speed Deore DX line. I certainly don't hesitate to pull them off thrift store bikes and pop 'em on my fancy bikes. They even work fine with my very modern shifters (caveat, I never got more modern than 8sp indexed downtube shifters,

Re: [RBW] Atlantis build - how retro should I go on the drive train?

2019-02-22 Thread John McBurney
I’ve got a fairly large stable of high-ish end bikes with a variety of drive trains ranging from 6 speed to 10 speed shimano but honestly only partially shimano because my all weather commuter is a belt drive internal gear bike and my 87 paramount, Dahon P9 Folder and Salsa Cassaroll low trail

[RBW] Re: Bosco bars grip suggestions

2019-02-22 Thread Tim O. (Portland, OR)
Thanks! Moving the thing shifters down by the curves is still really convenient shifting and it means I can use all three hand positions (grips, top of the bend and flats). I really dig it. Got the inspiration from a blug post or something. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Indexing 10sp big cassette

2019-02-22 Thread Drw
I’m not the best mechanic, but I’ve been able to set up 8 and 9 speed shifters in friction and index mode just fine. This thing is hurting me though. Setup: -1x10 -11x42 or something like that sunrace cassette -newer xt shadow derailleur with wolftooth roadlink -dura ace 10 speed shifter on Paul

[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-02-22 Thread Adam Leibow
clementine approves of the changes i just made to my sam. kind of hated the way it rode with 37s and fenders from my OP to be honest. i'll put the rack & basket back on again soon too. [image: 47181491461_f09d1f40aa_z.jpg] On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 11:29:13 AM UTC-8, Adam Leibow

[RBW] FS: Grilver Roadini 57cm w/ Campy Parts

2019-02-22 Thread Phoom Chira
Hello, I am putting my Roadini up for sale: - 57cm frame in Grilver - Campagnolo Centaur group set - Nitto Tallux stem - Nitto M151F drop handlebar - DT Swiss A23 wheels (custom black spokes and nipples) - Shimano R650 brakes - Jack Brown green tires - Newbaums handlebar tape Pedals and water

[RBW] Riv is again advertising the Rodeo on the frames page

2019-02-22 Thread tc
I just reloaded the page to make sure my eyes weren't foolin' me...check it out: https://www.rivbike.com/collections/framesets/products/roadeo?variant=23335434369 Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Atlantis build - how retro should I go on the drive train?

2019-02-22 Thread Lefebeaver
I bought myself an Atlantis frame last fall and am building it up slowly over winter. I've been riding a Novara gravel bike for the past 3 years, my first exposure to a 21st century bike with discs, 10-spd index shifting, yada yada. Except I'm not real impressed with any of it - the harsh ride,

[RBW] Re: MicroShift’s New $125 drivetrain

2019-02-22 Thread 'Albert Steward' via RBW Owners Bunch
It uses a proprietary cable pull ratio according to pinkbike - ties you into their shifter and rules out comboing the rear derailleur with brifters on a dropbar setup. Alas, Sunrace have got a clutch-equipped 9sp rear derailleur in the pipeline too (RDM900.MD). It'll use conventional 8/9sp

Re: [RBW] Re: FS-Riv Road Custom frame/fork 54cm

2019-02-22 Thread Jim Ammirato
As stated in the original post, it measures 56cm CENTER TO TOP of the seat lug. 54cm c-c. I’m stating what I measured. I don’t have the specifics of the geometry but it’s going to be different than a stock Ram. On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 5:07 PM George Schick wrote: > Yeah, something about these

Re: [RBW] Re: MicroShift’s New $125 drivetrain

2019-02-22 Thread Robert Blunt
This always my concern with the 1X drive trains, it seems that when I try to find one in silver, there isn't one. If I am wrong about this, I would love to be shown which system might better match the Rivendell aesthetic. --Rob Blunt On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 10:10 AM William! wrote: > *whispers*

[RBW] WTB Shimano 9 speed STI shifters

2019-02-22 Thread dylan alverson
Looking to try out integrated shifting on my Saluki. Anyone out there have a pair in good shape Ultegra preferably but not terribly picky. Purchase or trade. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] My first Rivendell!

2019-02-22 Thread Todd Porter
Congrats. Thats exactly how i felt when i got my first Riv. Which was a Clem as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

2019-02-22 Thread brendonoid
Congrats on the purchase. I am a fellow Aussie (perth) riv owner and I'm warning you; you don't stop at just one. And yes, 'cheaper' components just usually means more durable/functional. Welcome to the club! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: MIT AHH reviews?

2019-02-22 Thread Todd Porter
Got the bike. Its been 40 degrees and raining everyday, and I'm sick to boot. Did get to ride it home from work and then a 20 mile ride a day later. So far so good. Rides lovely. Still dialing in the bar height and saddle position, but no complaints. Really comfortable and feels fast and

[RBW] Re: Ride Report, Brothers in CA

2019-02-22 Thread Benjamin L. Clark
As a new Sonoma County resident, thanks for the report! My family and I will try and tackle some of these sections. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

2019-02-22 Thread David Bivins
Such a cool shot - three bikes represented! On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 7:47 PM Gabriel Bruguier wrote: > > That is my Atlantis in the back. Just getting it back from the shop after > installing a King external bb and XTR crankset. > > > The wheelset in the back is for my Cheviot. Photos to come.

Re: [RBW] NAHBS film photo challenge

2019-02-22 Thread Philip Williamson
Eric, I had thought you were talking about editing hard, but I see you mean PRE-editing, and only shooting one roll. My acquaintance @cinedar uses the hashtag #thinkmoreshootless. He shoots 4x5 film, but he does have multi-sheet holders. And big lights and reflectors sometimes. You make a

Re: [RBW] Re: FS-Riv Road Custom frame/fork 54cm

2019-02-22 Thread Joe Bernard
George, I'm having the same problem. That's my favorite Riv color - I remember it in the custom frame foldout from a couple decades ago - but hoo boy do I not have room/cash for it right now. Oy! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: FS-Riv Road Custom frame/fork 54cm

2019-02-22 Thread George Schick
Well, I can say one thing for sure, I wouldn't mind owning it. And if it's actually a 55cm, so much the better - with either a straight or slightly sloping TT. One of my favorite colors, too. But I need another bike/frame like I need a hole in the head and my wife would never let me get by

Re: [RBW] Re: FS-Riv Road Custom frame/fork 54cm

2019-02-22 Thread Joe Bernard
Word from the grapevine is it's 55cm center-to-top-of-toptube. The 56 number - maybe Della Santa sized it that way - is to the actual top of the seattube, which is visibly a centimeter taller than the toptube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: FS-Riv Road Custom frame/fork 54cm

2019-02-22 Thread Doug Van Cleve
It has a "56" engraved/stamped in the BB shell, I suspect that is a C-T measurement and I'm also pretty sure the RRS had a slight upslope in the TT as well. Remember, this is a custom. GP wouldn't do anything too weird, but it could have a shorter TT than standard RBW geometry. I'm pretty sure

[RBW] FS: Saddles - Brooks and Selle Anatomica

2019-02-22 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
B17s and B17 ochre sold pending payment Thanks guys! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Saddles - Brooks and Selle Anatomica

2019-02-22 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Hi Friend. I’m sorry I did not get your message. My direct email is cbirkenmai. At. Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Saddles - Brooks and Selle Anatomica

2019-02-22 Thread Friend
PM Sent. Let me know if ya got it! On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 3:47:12 PM UTC-5, esoterica etc wrote: > > > Bingo! It’s working now! > > > > On Feb 22, 2019, at 15:03, Chris Birkenmaier > wrote: > > > > Hi Mark. You are right about that. I tried to put them in a batch and > then change

[RBW] Re: My first Rivendell!

2019-02-22 Thread REC (Roberta)
The Rivendell ride is amazing, isn't it. I didn't believe so until I got on one. WOW is right! Congratulations and happy riding. Roberta On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:32:20 PM UTC-5, OwenS wrote: > Well I've officially joined the club after purchasing Danny's (RDS member > here)

[RBW] Re: FS-Riv Road Custom frame/fork 54cm

2019-02-22 Thread George Schick
Yeah, something about these dimensions just doesn't "click" right. I have a 54cm Rambouillet and it measures 54cm from C (of the BB) to T (of the top tube). From the photo of this Riv custom, it looks like the length of the head tube is almost exactly the same as my Ram. BUT, the Ram has a 2

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Saddles - Brooks and Selle Anatomica

2019-02-22 Thread esoterica etc
Bingo! It’s working now! > On Feb 22, 2019, at 15:03, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: > > Hi Mark. You are right about that. I tried to put them in a batch and then > change permissions. I hope that does the trick > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Saddles - Brooks and Selle Anatomica

2019-02-22 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Hi Mark. You are right about that. I tried to put them in a batch and then change permissions. I hope that does the trick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Saddles - Brooks and Selle Anatomica

2019-02-22 Thread esoterica etc
+1 on the link being unable to open. It says you need to be signed in in order to see it. Chris, you’re probably able to see it because you’re already signed in when you click the link. It doesn’t seem to be working for those of us not signed in/not signed up for flickr. ~Mark > On Feb

Re: [RBW] NAHBS film photo challenge

2019-02-22 Thread David Bivins
You're welcome! I feel like Diafine is somewhat of a secret but once you start using it, it's a wonder! On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 2:25 PM Tony DeFilippo wrote: > David thanks for sharing your him blog, very thorough and interesting post > about diafine. I think my mind was blown by this

Re: [RBW] NAHBS film photo challenge

2019-02-22 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Great challenge, I'll enjoy the results though I won't be going to NAHBS. David thanks for sharing your him blog, very thorough and interesting post about diafine. I think my mind was blown by this content; "As long as you’re sticking to the film speed guidelines, you can mix and match films

[RBW] Re: FS: Saddles - Brooks and Selle Anatomica

2019-02-22 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Hi guys. My apologies as I'm not trying to bump up my posting but I just set up the Flickr account and am posting a link to the forum for the first time. So I may have messed up. The link works for me when I click on it. If anyone else is having problems in viewing the saddles could you

[RBW] Re: Commuter oriented bike shop in LA?

2019-02-22 Thread Matt
Second to both Coco's and GSC but the solidly commuter-oriented shop in LA is unfortunately a bit of a tall order. Flying Pigeon is long gone. Aika Trading was great and all about the Northern European approach (and where I got my Brompton) but they too have moved on. The Wheelhouse was in that

[RBW] Re: FS: Saddles - Brooks and Selle Anatomica

2019-02-22 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
https://www.flickr.com/photos/145404415@N02/sets/72157705430568311 On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 12:28:27 PM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: > > Selection of saddles all in very good condition as described. Shipping > to lower 48 states only. PayPal Friends and Family please. > > > >1.

[RBW] Re: FS: Saddles - Brooks and Selle Anatomica

2019-02-22 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Hey Matt, it worked when I clicked on the link so I thought it was ok. I'll try the link again but will send the photos to you. Thanks for letting me know. On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 1:27:22 PM UTC-5, Matt wrote: > Hi Chris—Would love to see the pics but it looks like there's an issue

[RBW] Re: FS: Saddles - Brooks and Selle Anatomica

2019-02-22 Thread Matt
Hi Chris—Would love to see the pics but it looks like there's an issue with the Flickr album, either the URL is wrong or it's not public? Thanks! On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 9:28:27 AM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: > > Selection of saddles all in very good condition as described. Shipping

[RBW] FS: Saddles - Brooks and Selle Anatomica

2019-02-22 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
Selection of saddles all in very good condition as described. Shipping to lower 48 states only. PayPal Friends and Family please. 1. Brooks B67 Black Beautiful practically unused condition Treated with proofhide top and bottom $85 includes shipping 2.

[RBW] Re: Bosco bars grip suggestions

2019-02-22 Thread Marc Irwin
[image: sam.JPG] I have them on my Sam and Hunq. I tried some bolt on leather grips but have since switched to Riv cork on both. VO leather wrap on the rest of the bar (The "city bike" grip is long enough). I've also used Dia Compe "stoker" knobs as a midpoint grip and interrupter levers

[RBW] Re: Bosco bars grip suggestions

2019-02-22 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado
I forgot..finished with a few coats of clear shellac. Jon On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 8:03:23 AM UTC-7, Jon Dukeman,central Colorado wrote: > > I used a layer of faux cork grip from a road bike wrap for a little > cushion and then a layer of Newbaums cloth tape finished with twine and a >

[RBW] Re: MicroShift’s New $125 drivetrain

2019-02-22 Thread William!
*whispers* But does it come in silver? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: Bosco bars grip suggestions

2019-02-22 Thread OwenS
Great photo! Do you fins the thumb shifters that far away annoying or just something you prefer? On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 3:33:19 PM UTC+11, Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote: > > Ergons backwards! Looks funny, but feels nice. Shifters by the curves open > up all the hand positions. > >

[RBW] Re: Bosco bars grip suggestions

2019-02-22 Thread OwenS
Great photo! Do you find the thumb shifters that far away annoying or just something you prefer? On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 3:33:19 PM UTC+11, Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote: > > Ergons backwards! Looks funny, but feels nice. Shifters by the curves open > up all the hand positions. > >