[RBW] Re: Tire Wear and Tear
Yes, that is what I am speaking of when I referring to the failure mode: a bulge that eventually will not go under the brake bridge anymore. This has happened to all the rears that I have mounted. None have lasted longer than 1200 miles. The fronts don't last that much longer. This is mostly in brevet usage. I may be exceeding the weight rating of the tire, I weigh 240 and I ride a Rivendell with lots of gear along for the ride. The tire weight limit is 275. You do the math :-) I still love the tires and will continue to run them. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: On Apr 24, 12:32 pm, Chicken Sandwich brons2.li...@gmail.com wrote: Failure mode seems to be a large bulge in the tire that eventually contacts the brake bridge. yikes! what do you mean by failure? repeated flatting, blow-out, or what? to be clear, you're saying that a bulge develops (presumably near the end of the tire's life), then eventually gets so large that it's contacting the frame? that can't be very pleasant to ride on, even well before it hits the brake bridge! has this happened with more than one tire? i'm curious b/c i get considerably more mileage out of my GB cypres and have never encountered this issue. that's a bummer - especially considering the cost of these tires. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Quickbeams are here
Eric, Your fixed gear efforts have been noticed. I just finished assembling a fixed-fixed rear wheel for my Quickbeam yesteday evening. I used an 18 tooth cog to keep the gearing the same. I've never riden a fixie before...we'll see how this goes. Angus On Apr 25, 7:41 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: A few quick thoughts from a first-gen QB owner: --Love the fork crown --Nicer lug at the bottom of the head tube --Don't like the silver color (I'm still partial to green) --Don't like the text-only downtube decal --Seat tube decal looks like it was thrown together at the last minute. Really, an Arial-looking fonton a Rivendell? Really?? --They still haven't figured out that you can make the parts of the rear fork ends (dropouts, for you non-Sheldon-ites) that get brazed to the stays about 2mm smaller. The square ends poke out like a sore thumb. A custom builder would file them down ... can't Rivendell make them fit just a little better? And ... still no true fixed gear option, despite my best efforts to promote the use of the QB as a long-distance fixed gear machine (1,700 miles across the Sierras, Wasatch, and Rockies on the Big Fix; Paris- Brest 2007). You can spin a freewheel onto a fixed hub, but you can't put a lockring on a hub designed only for freewheels. Why force fixie riders to compromise when providing a true fixed option wouldn't affect free riders one bit? --Ericwww.wheelsnorth.orgwww.campyonly.com On Apr 25, 2009, at 5:15 PM, David Estes wrote: The fork crown is definitely fancier than mine, and I like the seat tube panel.. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:29 PM, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: I know I'm being the iconoclast here, but even the new pictures don't make me like the new colour scheme any better. The bike looks anemic and the decals look almost half finished. This on the back of that Betty Foy head badge makes me weep. On Apr 25, 5:48 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: In case folks hadn't checked, there are some new photos of the Quickbeam on the website. The photos are done against a darker (wood) background. Makes the colors stand out better, in my opinion. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Apr 25, 12:31 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Agreed--the blue is very pretty with the silver. If only the QB came in 650b a la AHH... On Apr 25, 6:41 am, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Everything goes with silver.its a very nice color and one that will always be pleasant to look at. On Apr 23, 3:50 pm, Dustin Sharp dsh...@runbox.com wrote: The Quickbeams will always be cool, but orange was definitely my favorite. From: cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:33:09 -0700 (PDT) To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Quickbeams are here Just noticed this on the site: Sneak peak can be found here. We are building and shipping them AQAP. http://www.rivbike.com/products/list/ bicycle_models#product=50-150 Cheers! cm- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Optimizing Atlantis Handling
Michael - How old is the headset? On Apr 25, 3:40 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Michael, FWIW. I ride a 64cm Atlantis, with a 5-10 lbs saddle bag, drop bars about 1 above the saddle but using 700x37 Panaracers. I do not experience (perceive?) a push to the outside of the turn on this bike. I also ride a 64cm Rambouillet using 700x32 Panaracers that does feel more responsive with a lighter touch to the bars in the corners. I have ridden bikes that didn't want to hold a line, they felt like they want to go straight all the time. Angus On Apr 24, 2:49 pm, whiskeyding whiskeyd...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey gang, I've found myself becoming increasingly irritated with my 61cm Atlantis' handling in the turns. At higher speeds (greater than about 15 mph), it feels fine, but at lower speeds I find it near impossible to hold a line in a turn. It feels like the bike is pushing me to the outside of the turn, and I have to wrestle with it to keep the turn tight. On my Ramboulliet, the turns are seemingly effortless, and the bike simply goes where I want it to go with a very light touch on the handlebars. I don't know if it's possible to duplicate this effect on the Atlantis; the geometries are different in many ways, but I'd like to try. I'm running 33mm Jack Brown tires, and I have a Hoss saddlebag on the back with between 5 and 10 pounds in it most days. I use drop bars roughly level with the saddle. I don't know if dropping the weight lower into panniers would help, or if I need more weight in the front end, or if I should try different (narrower?) tires. It could very well be my riding technique! Lot of things to try, but I thought I'd pick the collective brain before I start throwing money around. Any suggestions? Regards, Michael Kennedy Parker, CO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Will there be another run of the Legolas?
Ask Grant. On Apr 25, 11:07 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: In a recent post I was asking about a frame to build up in a more go- fast style and in looking on cyclofiend.com I saw the Legolas and realized it would be almost perfect, does anyone know if another run is in the works? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] custom color opinion wanted
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/ Hi there, I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned out. Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch), and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think? ~Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted
It's not a perfect match, but seems fine. More important question: How does it ride? On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Stephen recycle...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/ Hi there, I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned out. Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch), and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think? you've got to be kidding. That color is fantastic! Think of it in terms of matching up with various colors of cloth tape. The navy blue (if you're a UVA fan), the turquoise. - a nice silver would like great. You've got nothing to be ashamed of.. You're right, it's not butterscotch but it is a halloween/october color: think of the images from these two quotes - that's what your bike says to me: “And if it’s around October twentieth and everything smoky-smelling and the sky orange and ash gray at twilight, it seems Halloween will never come in a fall of broomsticks and a soft flap of bedsheets around corners.” - Something Wicked This Way Comes - Ray Bradbury “October was in the chair, so it was chilly that evening, and the leaves were red and orange and tumbled from the trees that circled the grove. The twelve of them sat around a campfire roasting huge sausages on sticks, which spat and crackled as the fat dripped onto the burning applewood, and drinking fresh apple cider, tangy and tart in their mouths.” - October in the Chair - Neil Gaiman keep it, love it. -sv -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted
you've got to be kidding. That color is fantastic! I vote yes on this color as well. But then again orange is my favorite color :-) Hate blue and can't understand RBW's seeming obsession with it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted
on 4/25/09 9:38 PM, Stephen at recycle...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/ Hi there, I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned out. Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch), and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think? I think that's really a stunningly unique and attractive color. I hope he saved the color code for that. Tawny Orange? Palomino Orange? I'd go for that in a second. But, you're the one who has to ride it. Can't make you like it if you don't. ;^) - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines Steel's what you want for a messenger bike. Weight. Big basket up front. Not cardboard with some crazy aramid shit wrapped around it, weighs about as much as a sandwich. -- William Gibson, Virtual Light --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Optimizing Atlantis Handling
I am going to second what Jim says. Michael, I saw your post on Friday and thought about moving some wheels from one bike to another to see how much of an effect on handling there was, I still may at some point. I do know this, bikes are going to feel a little different. During the last couple weeks, I have had the opportunity to ride all 3 of my Rivendell bikes and make some adjustments. I had been riding my 60cm custom All-Rounder with 700x35 Pasela TG tires. Since more permanently mounting a Schmidt dynamo hub and light, something caused the front end handling to be a bit off. At 10-15 mph I'd get a shimmy or wobble, no handed was not an option. I mounted some Jack Brown 700x33.3 tires and the handling issue was dramatically reduced. (Not entirely gone.) If I use a standard wheel the bike handles wonderfully. (Yes, the Schmidt wheel is true, dished, and tension balanced.) This is by far my favorite bicycle, the handling is well balanced in the true sense of what I think of as an All-Rounder! I put together a 61cm Atlantis and used the 700x35mm Pasela TG tires removed from my other bike. I've ridden a couple of hundred miles on this bike now. I would describe its handling as very stable. This is a bike that handles a load wonderfully. I made a grocery run to work with supplies on Monday. I was carrying a solid 35 pounds of supplies with me and the bike seemed to be asking for more. Cornering is a bit lazy compared to my custom. It's certainly NOT a sport bike. On Friday, I rode my 59cm custom road. It has 700x28mm Pasela TG tires. This is my fastest bike and one of the least versatile bikes that I own. After periods of not riding it, it's one that I would consider selling... Until I ride it. It seems to beg to go around corners, feels like an extension of me. It loves to go fast and floats around corners. It IS the sport bike compared to the All- Rounder and certainly WAY more-so compared to the Atlantis. Each of the bicycles are different. My position is VERY similar on them all, but it takes a couple of miles from the house and a few corners to re-familiarize with how they ride. Those minor differences are what makes the ownership so special. Celebrate the differences, I think throwing money around at trying to make the bikes ride the same will be futile and though your bike shop might be pleased, YOU would be disappointed. Good luck in your decision-making. On Apr 24, 10:55 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I'd suggest that the bikes are just different. If you ride either of them for awhile, then hop on the other, it's gonna seem strange at first. I rode my old Stumpjumper all winter, and thought it was great. Then I spent some time on my Atlantis on a trip out to California. When I got back on the Stump a few days later, I could barely ride the damned thing. After a mile or so, it was fine, but it certainly took some mild retraining of my cycling instincts to adapt to it. On Apr 24, 2:49 pm, whiskeyding whiskeyd...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey gang, I've found myself becoming increasingly irritated with my 61cm Atlantis' handling in the turns. At higher speeds (greater than about 15 mph), it feels fine, but at lower speeds I find it near impossible to hold a line in a turn. It feels like the bike is pushing me to the outside of the turn, and I have to wrestle with it to keep the turn tight. On my Ramboulliet, the turns are seemingly effortless, and the bike simply goes where I want it to go with a very light touch on the handlebars. I don't know if it's possible to duplicate this effect on the Atlantis; the geometries are different in many ways, but I'd like to try. I'm running 33mm Jack Brown tires, and I have a Hoss saddlebag on the back with between 5 and 10 pounds in it most days. I use drop bars roughly level with the saddle. I don't know if dropping the weight lower into panniers would help, or if I need more weight in the front end, or if I should try different (narrower?) tires. It could very well be my riding technique! Lot of things to try, but I thought I'd pick the collective brain before I start throwing money around. Any suggestions? Regards, Michael Kennedy Parker, CO --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted
I really like it too. Build it up, I bet it will grow on you. If not, lean it against cement walls and rusty fence posts and in a year ot two you will need a new paint job. By then you will have a new color in mind. On Apr 25, 10:38 pm, Stephen recycle...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/ Hi there, I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned out. Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch), and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think? ~Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted
The intensity is subdued compared to butterscotch but I really like that color a lot! It would receive a lot of complements, I'm sure. OTOH, I now feel like it's hopeless for me to find actual butterscotch touchup paint for my Saluki. :-/ -Darren. On Apr 26, 9:23 am, Joe Bartoe jbar...@hotmail.com wrote: Can't you ask the painter for some touch-up paint up front or was it a one-off? Does the painter maybe have some left? It's a great color, by the way. Joe Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:38:50 -0700 Subject: [RBW] custom color opinion wanted From: recycle...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/ Hi there, I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned out. Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch), and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think? ~Stephen _ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail.http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_more_042009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Optimizing Atlantis Handling
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, I rode my 59cm custom road. It has 700x28mm Pasela TG tires. This is my fastest bike and one of the least versatile bikes that I own. After periods of not riding it, it's one that I would consider selling... Until I ride it. It seems to beg to go around corners, feels like an extension of me. It loves to go fast and floats around corners. It IS the sport bike compared to the All- Rounder and certainly WAY more-so compared to the Atlantis. Each of the bicycles are different. My position is VERY similar on them all, but it takes a couple of miles from the house and a few corners to re-familiarize with how they ride. It's funny, but my two Rivendell Roads handle excellently both with and without heavy rear loads -- actually, I should include a distinguo here and add that I can carry loads only on the '03 Curt because the '99 Joe doesn't take a rack; but both bikes are almost identical apart from braze ons. Unladen, both have seamless straight line tracking, but lean into a turn and they obediently follow your mind without fail, hesitation, or over-eagerness; I take *those* qualities to be the hallmark of a Grant Designed road bike. Yet adding 30 lb to the rear of the '03, on a stiff rack, of course, the handling doesn't suffer: of course you can't throw it around as if unladen, but it does not lose much of its composure, either on the straight or in the curve. The Motobecane, which is my principal load carrying bike -- it's a '73 racing bike, Grand Record, with light and flexy 531 frame -- doesn't handle loads with such aplomb, nor does it handle as well unburdened. Still, it rides quite pleasantly well both with and without load -- this is the bike that I have more than once carried 45 lb on, in the rear. My point in all this blather is that I've found that a good road bike will handle well both empty and full, so to speak; rear loads; I can't speak about front loads, never having ridden a bike that handles them well. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Hi ho Rambouillet, Away!
Allez Allez! Looks like a great day for your ride. Its fun to be the Tortise, by choice, who catches those carbon hares ;-) Chapeau! On Apr 25, 5:39 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Nice story! Sounds like a perfect ride. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I was betwixt and between on which bike to ride in today's Tour Autauga (a cancer care/research fund raiser) which is the only supported ride in our little town of Prattville, AL. I had in mind the Saluki, but the darned cyclometer kept reading about twice the speed it should be. I couldn't ferret out the problem so I hung it up and pulled out the Rambouillet instead. 66 coarse country road, very hilly miles later, I am once again impressed with just how good this bike is. It drew many approving comments from riders of more popular brands, and several folks wanted the info on the click-stand I assuered one and all that my location at the back of the pack had nothing to do with steel frames or wool clothes. I just don't ride much more than 14 mph avg. I also walked up zero hills, thanks to a 26 / 27 granny ratio. At about mile 45, I started to reel in some tiring go fast types and passed some more as they walked up the last really tough hill and i could, if slowly, pedal. Back at the 35 mile point, I was still pretty far back though. A self styled sweep rider :) The race organizers apparently knew that I might need some encouragement, and I laughed to come around a corner out in the middle of nowhere and find some road sign painting. http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535...@n07/3474138595/ Tailwinds -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re:
Interesting, there are some cool steel, Lugged or at least Lugged Fork model single speeds out there that don't cost an arm and a leg. I knew a 3 speed IGH would work with them but I am not one to say no to two extra gears ;-) On Apr 25, 6:21 am, Forrest forrest-me...@mchsi.com wrote: Would the drop-bar-end twist grip shifter from HubBub Cycles work? They make a version for Rohlhof, and another to cover other brands. Not sure if they still have them in stock. $59 (I have no connection to HubBub). Here's description fromwww.hubbub.com/store/(search for shifter): HubBub designed and manufactured - This simple, lightweight adapter provides for the use of drop-style handlebars with Nexus, SRAM, or Rohloff's 14 speed twist shifter. Puts the adapter in an easy-to- operate position without clamping or welding extra parts to the bar. Adapter may be mounted for left or right-hand use. Easily installed with 6mm wrench. Order from QBP part #LD6087 On Apr 24, 8:22 pm, arthur strum rthrstrum...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 24, 8:25 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: You could do a 3sp QB without coldsetting. - Show quoted text - I just picked up a Sturmey AF hub, 3 close gears with a semi bail out low. AW hubs are available at the Goodwill for the cost of beach clunker. Then there is SBX hub coming from SunRace/Sturmey. Scott G. SRAM P5 (wide-range 5 speed) IGH's have only 122mm overlocknut dimension, so they would work as well. (I'm just about to install one in my Quickbeam). Unfortunately, no bar end shifter made for them, like the one JTEK makes for the Shimano 8sp. hubs. Art Tacoma- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted
Another wow, I really like that color vote. It'd look very nice with an aged honey Brooks or the antique brown. I've mellowed a bit in my color tastes for bikes. I fall more in the camp of ride the snot out of the bike for a couple of years, enjoy it, scratch it, get it dirty and then send it out for a repaint somewhere down the line. I think it's much easier in the bike world to define what you want based on the experience of knowing what you don't want. On Apr 25, 11:38 pm, Stephen recycle...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/ Hi there, I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned out. Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch), and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think? ~Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] old Italian bike?
This is my first year riding a road bike in decades; I've been participating in bike rallies in North Texas. I continue to be surprised at the number of folks who recognize a Rivendell. Every ride that I've been on, several folks have come up and said how nice the bike looks (particularly the lugs). In contrast, I'd be hard pressed to discern a Rivendell bike from 10 feet away. Yesterday, at the Germanfest rally in Muenster, however, someone sprang a new comment on me: It is great to see an ancient bike being ridden in this rally... Is it Italian? He was surprised when I told him the bike wasn't even a year old, and designed in California. Perhaps I should start dressing the part in knickers and a seer sucker shirt, with a leather hairnet. ;) robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted
That's a pretty nice color, not dull and not screaming. Unique. Keep it. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:39 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] custom color opinion wanted http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/ Hi there, I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned out. Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch), and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think? ~Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted
In general, I'm a butterscotch fan. My AHH is in a color called school bus yellow, so isn't butterscotch or your color exactly. Since it is a little lighter, maybe it will help you visualize the built-up version of yours, a little. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/oI0nRTVE7AjQrcW_ePTadw?feat=directlink This color is growing on me. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
In a message dated 4/26/2009 7:05:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, k5o...@gmail.com writes: Yesterday, at the Germanfest rally in Muenster, however, someone sprang a new comment on me: It is great to see an ancient bike being ridden in this rally... Is it Italian? He was surprised when I told him the bike wasn't even a year old, and designed in California. Robert, That's not all that unusual. You'll get used to it. When I first started riding the Rambouillet, a kid on a carbon bike told me the bike looked cool and asked me when it was built. He was expecting to hear 1948, 1939, etc. When I told him April he didn't say anything - I could see he was having difficulty processing April.' Bill **Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Will there be another run of the Legolas?
There are a couple of larger sizes avail on the site right now. On Apr 25, 11:07 pm, usuk2007 clive.stand...@umassmed.edu wrote: In a recent post I was asking about a frame to build up in a more go- fast style and in looking on cyclofiend.com I saw the Legolas and realized it would be almost perfect, does anyone know if another run is in the works? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
I recently had a similar experience regarding my Atlantis. Someone commented they hadn't seen one of those in decades. When I asked what he meant, he said something about how Atlantis was a famous bicycle from the good old days, didn't I know the history of what I was riding? So I had to tell him, yes, I do, because I'm the original owner and the bike was built in 2003. This guy had some difficulty processing that. When you get used to it, it's quite good fun, and for the most part harmless. dougP _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of bpus...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 4:32 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: old Italian bike? In a message dated 4/26/2009 7:05:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, k5o...@gmail.com writes: Yesterday, at the Germanfest rally in Muenster, however, someone sprang a new comment on me: It is great to see an ancient bike being ridden in this rally... Is it Italian? He was surprised when I told him the bike wasn't even a year old, and designed in California. Robert, That's not all that unusual. You'll get used to it. When I first started riding the Rambouillet, a kid on a carbon bike told me the bike looked cool and asked me when it was built. He was expecting to hear 1948, 1939, etc. When I told him April he didn't say anything - I could see he was having difficulty processing April.' Bill _ Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0003 the Radio Toolbar! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted
Looks much like the Eddy orange. Add some blue and love it. That is a sweet color. But only if you like it, eh? Paint is hard to get spot on w/o a mfg and their color code. Even then, on a bike frame it often doesn't look the same. Number of coats has an influence on it as well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
Yeah, I get that sometimes too, although mostly the approving comments about how great it looks and wistful, I bet it's comfortable on these rough roads too. The leather helmet was known as a hair net in the day, iirc. From: k5osx k5o...@gmail.com It is great to see an ancient bike being ridden in this rally... Is it Italian? Perhaps I should start dressing the part in knickers and a seer sucker shirt, with a leather hairnet. ;) robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
Seems like every Rivendell gets a nice old bike compliment at one point or another. I'm inclined to appreciate the the compliment no matter how awkwardly it is given. There is definitely an objective appreciable quality of remarkable craftsmanship in well made things of any sort. Uninformed compliments about our nice old bikes are the most genuine in my opinion. Maybe it helps people to reconsider the popular idea of how a great bike is defined. On Apr 26, 8:45 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, I get that sometimes too, although mostly the approving comments about how great it looks and wistful, I bet it's comfortable on these rough roads too. The leather helmet was known as a hair net in the day, iirc. From: k5osx k5o...@gmail.com It is great to see an ancient bike being ridden in this rally... Is it Italian? Perhaps I should start dressing the part in knickers and a seer sucker shirt, with a leather hairnet. ;) robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
I rode a century in the Fall. In the parking lot at the start I was pumping the tires on my Rambouillet and a teenager, 14-16, comes over and says that his father had sent him over to see what bikes looked like when he (the father) was a kid. My favorite line in this genre, however, was not about the Rambouillet but concerned my commuter bike, a tout terrain I got from Peter White. It is equipped with a Rohloff hub. Noting the lack of derailliers, several colleagues have asked why I can't afford a modern bike. I just don't have the energy to try to explain things to these guys so I mumble something about retro being in style and shift the conversation to the hurricane season. GeorgeS On Apr 26, 7:45 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, I get that sometimes too, although mostly the approving comments about how great it looks and wistful, I bet it's comfortable on these rough roads too. The leather helmet was known as a hair net in the day, iirc. From: k5osx k5o...@gmail.com It is great to see an ancient bike being ridden in this rally... Is it Italian? Perhaps I should start dressing the part in knickers and a seer sucker shirt, with a leather hairnet. ;) robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Tire Wear and Tear
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: It's a little surprising to me that any Riv would have a brake bridge so low that a bulging Cypress could even come close to it. I'd expect any 650b Riv would take at least a CdLV, if not a Fatty Rumpkin. Was this a conversion from a 559 bike? No - It is a custom that was intentionally built with short reach brakes. Not by me, I bought it used. It barely fits the 30mm Grand Bois, that's one of the reasons I stick with them, they're the fattest tire I can get in there. I used to post under a different email, I was just getting too much email at that address so I created a separate account for all my list serve email. I'm considering an AHH for my next attempt at PBP, but for now I am soldiering on as-is. cs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
When you look at a Rohloff and compare it to the Rube Goldberg of a derailer, it kinda makes you wonder at the modern part. If we weren't all used to looking at the exposed gearing, derailer systems would never be taken seriously if introduced today. Let's see, an Atlantis frame is $2K, and a Rohloff is$2K. Lot more little precision pieces whirling about in the latter. Put the two together and you've gotyikes! One expensive and quite elegant touring bike. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of GeorgeS Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:48 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: old Italian bike? I rode a century in the Fall. In the parking lot at the start I was pumping the tires on my Rambouillet and a teenager, 14-16, comes over and says that his father had sent him over to see what bikes looked like when he (the father) was a kid. My favorite line in this genre, however, was not about the Rambouillet but concerned my commuter bike, a tout terrain I got from Peter White. It is equipped with a Rohloff hub. Noting the lack of derailliers, several colleagues have asked why I can't afford a modern bike. I just don't have the energy to try to explain things to these guys so I mumble something about retro being in style and shift the conversation to the hurricane season. GeorgeS On Apr 26, 7:45 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, I get that sometimes too, although mostly the approving comments about how great it looks and wistful, I bet it's comfortable on these rough roads too. The leather helmet was known as a hair net in the day, iirc. From: k5osx k5o...@gmail.com It is great to see an ancient bike being ridden in this rally... Is it Italian? Perhaps I should start dressing the part in knickers and a seer sucker shirt, with a leather hairnet. ;) robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
the rohloff system is so heavy, it makes the frt' and r derailleurs systems look very efficient. if rohloff could bring the weight to somewhat, modern standards for a road bike, i would buy one in a new york minute. and by the way, i am not your sterio-typical weight weeny. i ride a blue ram. sincerely, don c. On Apr 26, 7:34 pm, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: When you look at a Rohloff and compare it to the Rube Goldberg of a derailer, it kinda makes you wonder at the modern part. If we weren't all used to looking at the exposed gearing, derailer systems would never be taken seriously if introduced today. Let's see, an Atlantis frame is $2K, and a Rohloff is$2K. Lot more little precision pieces whirling about in the latter. Put the two together and you've gotyikes! One expensive and quite elegant touring bike. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of GeorgeS Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:48 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: old Italian bike? I rode a century in the Fall. In the parking lot at the start I was pumping the tires on my Rambouillet and a teenager, 14-16, comes over and says that his father had sent him over to see what bikes looked like when he (the father) was a kid. My favorite line in this genre, however, was not about the Rambouillet but concerned my commuter bike, a tout terrain I got from Peter White. It is equipped with a Rohloff hub. Noting the lack of derailliers, several colleagues have asked why I can't afford a modern bike. I just don't have the energy to try to explain things to these guys so I mumble something about retro being in style and shift the conversation to the hurricane season. GeorgeS On Apr 26, 7:45 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, I get that sometimes too, although mostly the approving comments about how great it looks and wistful, I bet it's comfortable on these rough roads too. The leather helmet was known as a hair net in the day, iirc. From: k5osx k5o...@gmail.com It is great to see an ancient bike being ridden in this rally... Is it Italian? Perhaps I should start dressing the part in knickers and a seer sucker shirt, with a leather hairnet. ;) robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted
Make that 20-0 in favor. On Apr 26, 10:39 pm, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: To the OP: Opinions are running about 19-0 in favor of the color. If you still have any qualms, there's a ready market. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cm Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 7:28 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted I actually like it much better. It will be amazing when it is built up. Cheers, cm On Apr 26, 7:04 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Wow, that's a beaut. On Apr 26, 4:30 pm, cj.spinner cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: In general, I'm a butterscotch fan. My AHH is in a color called school bus yellow, so isn't butterscotch or your color exactly. Since it is a little lighter, maybe it will help you visualize the built-up version of yours, a little. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/oI0nRTVE7AjQrcW_ePTadw?feat=dire... This color is growing on me.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] QB specs so on
Silver's a nice color...it's never anybody's first pick..hardly ever, at least, but I always thought silver bikes looked nice, and the guys here think it's pretty striking. Some of us wanted to get one--being the last of them, and silver and all, but we aren't allowed to (and we all agree this is a good idea) steal bikes from customers. The seat tube decal is a bit short, but there's a long story to that, and I don' wanna tell it. It's neither fascinating nor boring. The purplish blue goes well with the silver, I'd say, but I WOULD say, wouldn't I? We'd planned to make this the last run of QBs, and it may be that. There are a few details that, while not upgrades, are certainly not downgrades. I wish people would focus on these, rather than the font (HELVETICA) in the panel. Good ol' Helvetica. Can't go wrong with it. The seat stays have a mid-stay barrel boss. The fork crown is fancy. The rake is pretty darn good. The new brakes are super dupe. The rear hub isn't a fixed-specific hub, and that might seem-2-some as a less than hardcore choice, but you CAN run a fixed cog on it, especially on a bike with brakes, and it'll never, ever come loose. Putting together a bike like this, or any bike, to a large extent, always going to be a can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself proposition. Critics (and I use this word kindly--and not defensively) tend to overlook the things they agree with, the things they'd've done themselves, and harp on what they'd have done differently. It's just the nature of things, and people. I/we DID consider Sheldon-style dropouts, DID consider a der tab (not that anybody complained about the lack of it), DID consider other rear spacing...but ultimately opted this way. The QB has always been a quite tweakable bike. It begs to be modified, but in its unmodified form, is capable of a whole lot. Two-speed, fenderable, great clearance, braze-ons.truly trail-worthy. Still...there's fun in the modifications, so go to town... We'd do it again if the ¥ would fall/the USD would climb. We might bring out a less-expensive version, from Taiwan. We have one on paper, but not in the oven just yet. Best, Grant --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
I don't think the Rohloff is much heavier than the DR system. You lose the front and rear DR's and two shifters with the Rohloff. I haven't looked it up recently, but suppose the Rohloff weighs a pound more. Cut out the pie and ice cream for a month and you've made up the difference. In the meantime, you have hassle-free shifting, skip all the adjusting, phantom shifts, etc. On Apr 26, 10:45 pm, dpco dcompton1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: the rohloff system is so heavy, it makes the frt' and r derailleurs systems look very efficient. if rohloff could bring the weight to somewhat, modern standards for a road bike, i would buy one in a new york minute. and by the way, i am not your sterio-typical weight weeny. i ride a blue ram. sincerely, don c. On Apr 26, 7:34 pm, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: When you look at a Rohloff and compare it to the Rube Goldberg of a derailer, it kinda makes you wonder at the modern part. If we weren't all used to looking at the exposed gearing, derailer systems would never be taken seriously if introduced today. Let's see, an Atlantis frame is $2K, and a Rohloff is$2K. Lot more little precision pieces whirling about in the latter. Put the two together and you've gotyikes! One expensive and quite elegant touring bike. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of GeorgeS Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:48 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: old Italian bike? I rode a century in the Fall. In the parking lot at the start I was pumping the tires on my Rambouillet and a teenager, 14-16, comes over and says that his father had sent him over to see what bikes looked like when he (the father) was a kid. My favorite line in this genre, however, was not about the Rambouillet but concerned my commuter bike, a tout terrain I got from Peter White. It is equipped with a Rohloff hub. Noting the lack of derailliers, several colleagues have asked why I can't afford a modern bike. I just don't have the energy to try to explain things to these guys so I mumble something about retro being in style and shift the conversation to the hurricane season. GeorgeS On Apr 26, 7:45 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, I get that sometimes too, although mostly the approving comments about how great it looks and wistful, I bet it's comfortable on these rough roads too. The leather helmet was known as a hair net in the day, iirc. From: k5osx k5o...@gmail.com It is great to see an ancient bike being ridden in this rally... Is it Italian? Perhaps I should start dressing the part in knickers and a seer sucker shirt, with a leather hairnet. ;) robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:03 PM, R Gonet richard.go...@earthlink.netwrote: I don't think the Rohloff is much heavier than the DR system. I cut out the fd and the rd, the cassette, the shifters, the rear brake, and all of that loosely slapping length of chain, but forgot to add the Rohloff. Back to the main thread: I've been asked complementarily how old my '03 custom commuter fixed is (Curt Customized it, Dave [Porter, of ABQ] converted it] and the H, let's see ... 2003 response did flummox the asker; but my commuter is dressed up, as no doubt many of y'alls are, with Honjos and Nittos and clips and straps and old style Flite and, at the time, an Adam and even a brass bell, and I am sure that the acoutrements added to the anachronistic impression. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM Professional Resumes. Contact resumespecialt...@gmail.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: old Italian bike?
I've mused about the weight difference for the two systems, taken as a total, but never bothered to go on-line and get all the weights of the bits and add them up. Heft a 12-32 8 speed steel cassette (the affordable kind). Think about multiple chainrings. Extra chain. Freehub. I wouldn't be surprised if the total system diff was less than a couple of pounds. Dunno, but it'd be a fun experiment. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of dpco Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 7:46 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: old Italian bike? the rohloff system is so heavy, it makes the frt' and r derailleurs systems look very efficient. if rohloff could bring the weight to somewhat, modern standards for a road bike, i would buy one in a new york minute. and by the way, i am not your sterio-typical weight weeny. i ride a blue ram. sincerely, don c. On Apr 26, 7:34 pm, Doug Peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: When you look at a Rohloff and compare it to the Rube Goldberg of a derailer, it kinda makes you wonder at the modern part. If we weren't all used to looking at the exposed gearing, derailer systems would never be taken seriously if introduced today. Let's see, an Atlantis frame is $2K, and a Rohloff is$2K. Lot more little precision pieces whirling about in the latter. Put the two together and you've gotyikes! One expensive and quite elegant touring bike. dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of GeorgeS Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:48 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: old Italian bike? I rode a century in the Fall. In the parking lot at the start I was pumping the tires on my Rambouillet and a teenager, 14-16, comes over and says that his father had sent him over to see what bikes looked like when he (the father) was a kid. My favorite line in this genre, however, was not about the Rambouillet but concerned my commuter bike, a tout terrain I got from Peter White. It is equipped with a Rohloff hub. Noting the lack of derailliers, several colleagues have asked why I can't afford a modern bike. I just don't have the energy to try to explain things to these guys so I mumble something about retro being in style and shift the conversation to the hurricane season. GeorgeS On Apr 26, 7:45 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah, I get that sometimes too, although mostly the approving comments about how great it looks and wistful, I bet it's comfortable on these rough roads too. The leather helmet was known as a hair net in the day, iirc. From: k5osx k5o...@gmail.com It is great to see an ancient bike being ridden in this rally... Is it Italian? Perhaps I should start dressing the part in knickers and a seer sucker shirt, with a leather hairnet. ;) robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Orange Rambouillet Fork
I have a 60cm Rambouillet(orange). I would like to have the fork if it is still available. How would you like to be paid! Jan Chromick Larry Powers wrote: I have a damaged fork from a 60cm orange Rambouillet. It fell over in my roof rack and damaged one of the fork ends. I received mixed messages as to whether of not the fork end could be straightened so I bought a replacement from Rivendell. I was saving it as a backup in case I ever damaged the fork again. I now own a 62cm Ramouillet so this fork is collecting dust. Here are some pictures of the fork: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/3478501480_dabee942ee_b.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3655/3477693439_2370742c22_b.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3636/3477694111_592b0a4bd1_b.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3559/3477694731_a59182fdac_b.jpg If you have a 60cm Rambouillet and would like to experiment with reraking or have a fork in even worse shape this is the fork for you. I am willing to sell it to who ever wants it for the actual cost of shipping. I think $15 would be a good guess but would verify when I have an actual shipping address. Thanks. Larry Powers just when you think that you've been gyped the bearded lady comes and does a double back flip - John Hiatt Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. Check it out. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: custom color opinion wanted
Wow, thanks for all the feedback. No one thinks its at all flat or drab? Without depth or interest? I know its just a color, not a personality... I admit my opinion is clouded with dissapointment, just cause ive lusted for a butterscotch Rivendell since i first saw one. Years later, i put in the order, wait a month, then get a call saying its been painted wrong, and it cant be done right. Im having a hard time seeing the frame in its own context, i suppose. All that, and Grant says he doesnt like it, which is hard to overcome. After hearing what yall have to say about it, i might just go for it... Though i never thought myself an Orange Bike Guy. Thanks again for the responses! ~Stephen On Apr 25, 11:38 pm, Stephen recycle...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37778...@n07/ Hi there, I ordered an AHH in Saluki Butterscotch, and this is how it turned out. Im not stuck with it, just that its going to be a headache choosing a new color (Grant said hes done attempting Butterscotch), and more waiting, and and and... I think I want to convince myself that i like this melon creamcicle color... What do you all think? ~Stephen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
