[RBW] Re: Crank arm length on Bleriot

2009-07-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 21:37 -0700, colin p. cummings wrote: Bleriot Riders, I'm riding a 59 with sneaker pedals and am growing irritated with pedal strike. This happened just today on a mild turn. Sure my riding ability's not fantastic, but I'm wondering if I should switch to a 165 crank

[RBW] Re: Yet Another Dumb Gravel Question

2009-07-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Tue, 2009-07-07 at 19:30 -0700, GeorgeS wrote: I should preface this question by saying that most of my bike riding has been in pretty flat and/or rolling hill sort of country. I have little experience on steep, long climbs. In Vermont I'm seeing quite a few challenging (for me) hills.

[RBW] Re: Yet Another Dumb Gravel Question

2009-07-08 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:30 PM, GeorgeS wrote: I should preface this question by saying that most of my bike riding has been in pretty flat and/or rolling hill sort of country. I have little experience on steep, long climbs. In Vermont I'm seeing quite a few challenging (for me) hills. On

[RBW] Re: Crank arm length on Bleriot

2009-07-08 Thread Christopher Paul
Most Bleriot Owners have experienced pedal strike at one time or another. It last happened to me about 3 years ago while pedaling through a turn. Obviously, I don't lean and pedal on this bike. I also use 170 crank arms, however I use Shimano spd pedals. I don't even think about it anymore.

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Christopher Paul
Ditto, I love my Ramboiullet too! I use this for all rides, including fast club rides, centuries and touring (so far a week at a time). The Ram is not too heavy nor is it too light. I think Grant got it right with this one. I was surprised when it was taken out of the line up. I imagine the

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Mike
I hope with this new road bike that it'll be a traditional frame like the Rambouillet or Romulus and not expanded. I think the expanded frame totally has a place but so do traditional frames. I wonder how they'll do the threadless/threaded fork. Does that mean they'll have two frames made, a

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread CycloFiend
on 7/8/09 8:09 AM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I hope with this new road bike that it'll be a traditional frame like the Rambouillet or Romulus and not expanded. I think the expanded frame totally has a place but so do traditional frames. I wonder how they'll do the

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Bill Connell
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:25 AM, CycloFiendcyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 7/8/09 8:09 AM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: I hope with this new road bike that it'll be a traditional frame like the Rambouillet or Romulus and not expanded. I think the expanded frame totally has a place  

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread JL
When I saw this news on the Riv website I was quite pleased. One of my Rivs is a road standard and I find myself riding it more and more often these days. My only complaint (if i could even call it that) is that the clearance is limited - 28mm Paselas with no room for fenders (I don't really

[RBW] Re: vegan bags????

2009-07-08 Thread JL
I am waiting for that tandem too. HA I went be riv HQ a couple weeks back to check out some new things and get a look at these vegan bags (I am also excited about leatherless bits) I don't know how the final bags will look but the three prototypes where clever simple designs that won me over.

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Jeremy Till
Even if it's dead 1 threadless is pretty easy to do- most 1 1/8 stems come with a shim for 1 and then all you need is spacers and a headset, which i'm sure Riv could source easily (i think Ritchey makes one?). Definitely easier than trying to make a threaded setup work with a 1 1/8 headtube. I

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Esteban
The clearances on the Ram/Rom were about perfect for a road bike - 23mm if you like, 27/28mm as road default, but the ability to fit a 35 (or 37) in there if need be. This makes your road bike expand- able (not *that* kind of expanded) into a great trail bike or even cyclocross (if you don't

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Esteban
Didn't mean to move too far in to Hilsen terrain, there - road geometry, please. I just like the clearances on the Ram/Rom - and those Paul prototypes sound pretty darn cool. On Jul 8, 10:01 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: The clearances on the Ram/Rom were about perfect for a road bike

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Forrest
Call it Roadio Flyer. Wonder what the lawyers would do with that? -- Forrest (Iowa City) On Jul 6, 6:15 pm, ericda...@gmail.com wrote: This sounds pretty nice (from the keyhole section of the Riv site): We're working on sort-of-a-Ramboiullet replacement, but more of a   club-riding bike, so

[RBW] First solo S24O

2009-07-08 Thread Mike
I've been wanting to do S24Os for quite a while and finally have the gear to do it so on Monday I headed out to Indian Henry Campground on the Clackamas river to enjoy a night in the woods and see how my Hilsen handles with a load. Since this was a shake-down ride for an upcoming tour I took a

[RBW] Re: First solo S24O

2009-07-08 Thread Solomander
Nice ride and nice pix. Joel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email

[RBW] Re: Crank arm length on Bleriot

2009-07-08 Thread Darren Stone
I ride a 58 cm Saluki with SPDs, relatively wide-Q triple, 170 mm cranks, and I have a very occasional strike. It's typically when I'm hammering like a goofball and not thinking. So I haven't sweated it; Completely avoidable when I'm riding mindfully. As for how much more lean you'll get out

[RBW] Re: S24O on Hillborne

2009-07-08 Thread RoadieRyan
Gorgeous shots -oh and the scenery looks nice too ;-) On Jul 6, 4:09 pm, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Great pics, Eric!  I remember going to that park as a young-un.  Always liked that part of the state.  The St. Croix is a good river.  I've had my Hilsen for just about the same

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Bruce
How about the Roadie - 1. Then you can abbv it RD-1 instead of the Bstone RB-1... From: Forrest ftme...@me.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 12:09:33 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Dustin Sharp
I think the things that would really make this a road bike to me are: --steeper angles up front, shorter chainstays out back, and a lighter tubeset. IF you make the tubeset as light as it should be, the bike will ride like poop with a rack and moderate load. So limiting things to fender mounts

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread BPustow
Whatever it's named - it's exciting news. Can't wait to see it. Bill Louisville, Ky In a message dated 7/8/2009 1:56:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fullylug...@yahoo.com writes: How about the Roadie - 1. Then you can abbv it RD-1 instead of the Bstone RB-1...

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Mike
I like that. Or even RBW-R. Some variation on the RB-1 name would be good. On Jul 8, 10:48 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: How about  the Roadie - 1.  Then you can abbv it RD-1 instead of the Bstone RB-1... From: Forrest ftme...@me.com To: RBW

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Gino Zahnd
I have a reliable source* that tells me it'll be 1 for both. And a shim + 1 1/8th stem for the threadless version. There are several sources for shims, etc. I have a lot of interest in this bike due to its fragile tubing (I weigh 135lbs), and there seem to still be a good number of 1 threadless

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Gino Zahndginoza...@gmail.com wrote: I have a reliable source* that tells me it'll be 1 for both.  And a shim + 1 1/8th stem for the threadless version. There are several sources for shims, etc.  I have a lot of interest in this bike due to its fragile tubing

[RBW] Bike name idea (was new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another)

2009-07-08 Thread James Warren
In the spirit of a bike that will be welcoming on FRIENDLY and athletic club rides, I would like to recommend the name Compadre. -James --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: Crank arm length on Bleriot

2009-07-08 Thread Joan Oppel
Here's my experience: 53cm Bleriot, triple Sugino chainring set on 170 cranks - never have had a pedal strike.Heading out now on the Bleriot to do some errands,JoanJul 8, 2009 01:47:21 PM, rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:I ride a 58 cm Saluki with SPDs, relatively wide-Q triple, 170

[RBW] Re: Crank arm length on Bleriot

2009-07-08 Thread Rick
I'm on a 58 w/ 170s and a triple, and I have had occassional pedal strike of the MKS touring. Like some of the other responders, heavy lean and pedaling in the corner, so I guess I'm usually coasting in the tight ones these days, inner pedal in the high position, because it hasn't happened in

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread d2mini
I like this idea, too! I'm building up a weekend roadie bike now and had a HECK of a time finding a road frame that would take 28mm tires! It was pretty much impossible. I finally settled on a Tommasini Sintesi, ordered direct from their factory in Italy. They recommend 25's, but i found that I

[RBW] Re: First solo S24O

2009-07-08 Thread EricP
Really nice description and pictures. It makes me jealous. And I just got back from my S24O. Looks like a beautiful area for riding. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 8, 12:30�pm, Solomander soloman...@aol.com wrote: Nice ride and nice pix. Joel

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Dan Abelson
I think the frame is a great idea. The one thing that I would like to see on such a frame is stops for downtube shifters. Some of Rivendell recent offerings have been trending away from this but I think on a go fast bike for riers who are not using STI they are an essential option. Dan Abelson

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Mike
Agreed. DT shifter mounts are essential. On Jul 8, 4:06 pm, Dan Abelson abelson@gmail.com wrote: I think the frame is a great idea.  The one thing that I would like to see on such a frame is stops for downtube shifters.  Some of Rivendell recent offerings have been trending away from this

[RBW] FS: NS Country Bag, the proper canvas model

2009-07-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Pretty much as new, though new includes a slight. 1 long cosmetic defect in the leather trim binding the upper lip of the bag -- the trim/binding stops about an inch short of where it should at the terminal seam. This lip is covered by the flap. $165 shipped. Paypal, please. -- Patrick Moore

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread Bruce
This isn't EXACTLY the list to suggest this, but you can fit 37s in a true crit design steel race frame, IF you do a 650B conversion. I know, I'm running them now. Generally, when I go from 700 to 650B, I run 32s (Maxy Fasty or Cypres). From: d2mini

[RBW] Re: Bike name idea (was new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another)

2009-07-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
It's too bad that the LORT names are no longer available, but I'd suggest something like Glamdring: or Orcrist -- it's really not the thing to be too obviously nice, you know. Nice, yes, obvious, no. And serious, yes. There is that rightfully deprecatory term, the unco guid -- see Bobby Burns. I

[RBW] Re: Bike name idea (was new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another)

2009-07-08 Thread Dustin Sharp
Too bad Quickbeam is already taken. This really will be the hasty Ent of the Riv lineup. Dustin From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:35:24 -0600 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Bike name

[RBW] Re: 1-1.25 tubes in 1.5 Tires?

2009-07-08 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I've used 1 tubes in 2 tires, in a pinch. Not ideal, but no problems. On 7/7/09, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote: The tires came, tubes were installed and all is well. By the way, the Marathon Racers after a short ride around the neighborhood. They don't seem noticeably slower than the

[RBW] Re: Bike name idea (was new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another)

2009-07-08 Thread James Warren
Using Middle Earth names, they could go with Haldir. Or Glorfindel. He wasn't in the movie. (Haldir was.) On Jul 8, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Dustin Sharp wrote: Too bad Quickbeam is already taken. This really will be the hasty Ent of the Riv lineup. Dustin From: PATRICK MOORE

[RBW] Re: 1-1.25 tubes in 1.5 Tires?

2009-07-08 Thread tarik saleh
Thats what I used to think, then PJW visited upon me a plague of misfortunes. Read about it here: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com/2008/12/and-then-he-did-me-smitely-didely.html Tarik On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:47 PM, PATRICK MOOREbertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've used 1 tubes in 2 tires, in a

[RBW] Re: Crank arm length on Bleriot

2009-07-08 Thread Dave G
Hi Colin, You didn't say how long you have had your Bleriot or if you have experience with any other Riv bikes. I assume the Bleriot is fairly new and your first experience with low bottom brackets. My past (and brief) experience with bikes in my adult life was with high BB mountain or hybrid

[RBW] Re: Crank arm length on Bleriot

2009-07-08 Thread Timothy Whalen
My experience is almost the same as Dave's. I too have a 59 Bleriot with 175 Sugino, wide Shimano BMX pedals and 113 BB. I've been riding it for about a year or more and the only pedal strike I recall was the other day when I scraped a pedal. I couldn't even tell you why so obviously not

[RBW] Re: Crank arm length on Bleriot

2009-07-08 Thread David Estes
My 61cm Bleriot was the only bike I've had pedal strike problems with. That was with XD2 cranks, 175 I think. Very annoying as I had to change my pedaling style and be quite conscious of how I was pedaling.I would say find a narrower Q pedalset (SRAM Rival if it's a double is pretty narrow),

[RBW] Re: Bike name idea (was new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another)

2009-07-08 Thread Christopher Paul
Assuming that this bike is worthy of stealing hearts, how about a classy French name, like Rogue ? On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:28 PM, James Warrenjimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: In the spirit of a bike that will be welcoming on FRIENDLY and athletic club rides, I would like to recommend the

[RBW] Re: new Riv road bike, and my unwanted input for another

2009-07-08 Thread TJ Ramb
what was wrong with the rambi- it did all the new frame is offering and more! sure take the weight down a bit - outsource it - but try to keep the versatility and neutral handling, or at least let it take at at least 32c with fenders. and make it a really bright metallic blue --LOL On Jul