Re: [RBW] Riv bikes packed for an adventure

2013-01-18 Thread cyclotourist
A very good sight to see. Happy new bike owners, and happy income for Rivendell. Win-win! On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I stopped by RBW to take advantage of the Jack Brown sale and saw these lovelies waiting for a ride to their new homes. This sight

[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread Matt Beebe
That is a great video.Lots of honesty and interesting details, especially for us Rivendell geeks, but also genuinely intriguing for anyone remotely aware of nature and potential hazards of small business. Glad to see the Appaloosa bike is going to happen, and the new IRD 8-speed 12-34

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread IanA
I think the fistful of seatpost is more a general measure of a good frame size, rather than a measurement for saddle height. I'd suggest only adjusting one parameter at a time until you get dialed in. Just try the bars at a different height for now and see how that feels. On Friday,

Re: [RBW] Re: wtb: 59cm A. Homer Hilsen

2013-01-18 Thread Bruce Herbitter
Every time I get on my Ram, I think to myself this is the best bike I've ever ridden. Then of course, when I take out the Saluki, it's This bike is the most comfortable bike I've owned. So why is it that I was so eager to get back on the Road last Saturday having not been on it for a few weeks?

[RBW] Re: Riv bikes packed for an adventure

2013-01-18 Thread Ron Mc
I like the tall boxes On Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:00:18 PM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote: I stopped by RBW to take advantage of the Jack Brown sale and saw these lovelies waiting for a ride to their new homes. This sight always cheers me up, thinking about happy new Riv riders. One of these is

[RBW] Re: Good Deal on Ibex XL and XXL Knickers

2013-01-18 Thread Ron Mc
I found another good deal at sierratradingpost http://www.sierratradingpost.com/smartwool-nts-base-layer-boot-top-bottoms-merino-wool-3and4-length-midweight-for-men~p~4972t/?colorFamily=01 smartwool knicker base layer to wear under your Rivbike MUSA knickers On Thursday, January 17, 2013

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread Kelly
I'm not claiming this is the cause of your back pain, rather I am relating to a time on a new bike where I had lower back pain. What I slammed the saddle all the way back set the height and figured I was good. All three contact points lined up except for seat in relation to the crank.

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread Ron Mc
agree on the one at a time adjustment process. The last thing I tried to adjust was angle on the bar, and found at the end of a painful 20-mi ride (the pain didn't show up until the end) that it was better where I started. On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:36:36 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: My

[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread eflayer
I would like to see a nicely edited tasteful video of Mark doing a full bike build. Not long and boring, but more his philosophy and let's say 20 of the finer points he pays attention to when doing a build ie the Zen And The Art of Building a Rivendell. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:54:42 PM

Re: [RBW] Ritchey RBW video captures a life lesson...

2013-01-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
You are lucky indeed if you can earn a sufficient living by doing what you love. Most of us have to indulge our personal loves in our spare time. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Now 44, I have, through the years learned that one must do what they love for

RE: [RBW] Ritchey RBW video captures a life lesson...

2013-01-18 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
True. Which, for me, makes this video even more inspirational. Thanks to Jay, to the in-house musicmakers, and all of the subjects for sharing. It was great. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Friday, January

[RBW] Re: Ritchey RBW video captures a life lesson...

2013-01-18 Thread Ron Mc
I think the job part is a misconception. If you do what you love, you own the business. On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:24:58 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: If I was 20 years old again, I'd fly to California and try to get a job at RBW, the Lord willing. Rivendell Bike Works looks like a great

[RBW] Re: Ritchey RBW video captures a life lesson...

2013-01-18 Thread Michael
I would love to be a pro bassist for some established contemporary Christian group and I wouldn't be the owner in that case. I guess every job has its ups and downs. But doing what one loves would be a start. I think I would be more serious about pursuing that if I had to do it all

Re: [RBW] New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread Joe Bernard
That Hunqapillar story irritates me. Getting something crossed up in a wheel is a hazard of riding a bicycle. If something gets in there and you keep pedaling, either the wheel is going to stop spinning, or something's going to snap. If I did that to my Saluki, I would expect to pay for the

[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread soapscum
Really enjoyed the short film. I had a good feeling about that Rivendell crew; now I know why. The music was perfect. Shawn On Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:54:42 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ Extensive post with new video about RBW staff. Great stuff by Jay, as

[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread Dave
loved that video. nice job jay! I didn't know how compelling a 30 minute video could be, but man that thing just flies right by. Makes me like the company even more, and really makes me want to get out on an S24O soon. Dave On Friday, January 18, 2013 9:12:20 AM UTC-8, shawn m. wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread William
From the evidence that Grant provided, you can't validly make that conclusion. Allow me to make a humble retraction. I can only validly lay 100% of the fault at the feet of the rider, not one scintilla more. 200% was unfair of me. Mea culpa. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:25:47 PM

Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread Mike
I really really liked that video. Entertaining and informative. Some folks will watch it and chuckle, thinking it's like something out of Portlandia but others will probably be drawn in by it. My favorite parts were Grant talking at the beginning and the footage of Rich bombing down

Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread robert zeidler
try bars -1cm below saddle height On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using

[RBW] Brief (largely OT) question

2013-01-18 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
This group is such a resource - I hope Jim (and others) will tolerate a very brief and targeted (but admittedly OT) question. Perhaps any replies could be off-line? I'm building up a 1970s Raleigh Competition, recently refitted and beautifully restored as a rando bike. I'll be using Huret

Re: [RBW] WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???

2013-01-18 Thread Steven Frederick
FWIW, early Herons (made by Waterford of Reynolds 531) are as much Rivendells as the Rambouillet. Good luck with your search! Steve On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Christopher Kopp koppchristop...@gmail.com wrote: Hello RBW Owners! I bought a beautiful blue 52cm Rambouillet with 26 wheels

[RBW] Sam on craigslist in Boulder,CO

2013-01-18 Thread Bruce Baker
Looks like a pretty good deal on a Sam Hillborne http://boulder.craigslist.org/bik/3539151183.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread Steven Frederick
Having the seat too far back was the source of my lower backpain FWIW... Steve On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle).

Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Not on the basis of the evidence, you can't. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Allow me to make a humble retraction. I can only validly lay 100% of the fault at the feet of the rider, not one scintilla more. 200% was unfair of me. Mea culpa. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread William
Oh, I thought you were joking around since I said 200%. Care to share your theory? I'm apparently not smart enough to conceive a way that this could possibly be a defective frame. On Friday, January 18, 2013 12:08:21 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Not on the basis of the evidence, you

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread pb
How can shove the saddle all the way back and fist full of post be helpful fitting guides for a given individual on a given bike? Fist full of post is a frame sizing guide, not a saddle adjustment tool, and shove the saddle all the way back can't be more than a starting point for a

Re: [RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread Peter Morgano
I think that some of us are princess and the pea type riders and some of us arent. I can also tell 2-3mm in seatpost difference, so much that I use a nice permanent marker to mark out where i left it and what date so I can go back and see how it feels (I use a pencil for the stem), some of us are

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread EGNolan
Another variable may be saddle tilt. As my bars have gotten higher and I have become more upright, a little more nose up on the saddle has helped to relieve some lower back pain. -Eric INDPLS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-18 Thread EGNolan
Just don't poke fun at the $15 shifter Skenry, that was me... On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:53:02 PM UTC-5, Skenry wrote: Its nice to sell stuff here (or on the BoB list) because its easy. But really its not that hard to sell on eBay. I posted about 9 things last week and am in

[RBW] Re: Ritchey RBW video captures a life lesson...

2013-01-18 Thread wrickster
Michael, I totally agree. I came from a long line of brewers. I worked for Anheuser Busch, same as my Dad. However, I hated my job. I stayed until retirement, but I wish I had all those years back. -Ricky On Friday, January 18, 2013 2:24:58 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: If I was 20 years old

[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Saluki 650b and Phil touring wheelset w. Red Hertres

2013-01-18 Thread hsmitham
Hi Hobie, Can I get some pic's of the wheelset? Regards, Hugh Los Angeles On Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:22:33 AM UTC-8, hobie wrote: Hello. I wanted to sell my wonderful hi end complete Saluki as a whole but no takers, so I'm parting out the bike. First off I'll be listing the

[RBW] Re: Bay Area bike tour write-up and photos

2013-01-18 Thread hsmitham
Thanks for the inspiration. One of these day:) On Sunday, January 6, 2013 5:44:40 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Part 1 http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2013/01/san-francisco-area-bike-adventure.html?m=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread wrickster
My 2 cents = Saddle slammed back Riv style - Although your hands love it, your back hates it. As we all know it's a balancing act - I would try to find a balance between hands and back with saddle fore/aft adjustment. -Ricky On Friday, January 18, 2013 2:36:36 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: My

Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread René Sterental
I can feel less than 2mm on seat post height, but what I've found has the most effect on my lower back hurting or not, on any given setup, is the tilt do the saddle. We're talking ANAL here; a quarter turn on one of the seat post screws is sometimes too much. I'd suggest you try that first if

Re: [RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing

2013-01-18 Thread Scott Henry
No poking fun, that one still works and everything. and it was shipped to you Priority this morning. Scott On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM, EGNolan egno...@gmail.com wrote: Just don't poke fun at the $15 shifter Skenry, that was me... On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:53:02 PM UTC-5,

Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread Anne Paulson
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:17 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, I thought you were joking around since I said 200%. Care to share your theory? I'm apparently not smart enough to conceive a way that this could possibly be a defective frame. It *could* be defectively brittle metal,

Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Dropouts are generally cast parts, so it is possible it was defective. But, it's also clear that we have no real business deciding anything about the person who sent it in, and whether it's a valid claim. It's a Rivendell decision and they chose to act in an amazingly upright manner.

Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread William
I'll drop it. It's probably my ex-retail guilt complex wanting to give Rivendell the benefit of the doubt. If Rivendell wants to give the rider the benefit of the doubt, I've got no reason to be upset about it. They've been kind to me before, too. I shouldn't be bummed at them being kind to

[RBW] Re: Sam on craigslist in Boulder,CO

2013-01-18 Thread jinxed
Wow! Right size, right color, good price, AND local. But I need it like a hole in the head. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

[RBW] Re: Brief (largely OT) question

2013-01-18 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Tom: Good on ya for sticking with the Jubilees... NICE TOUCH!!! I believe the original crank had a 42/52 combo. I would think you'd simply need to mount the front derailleur slightly lower on the seat tube (and position it to accommodate the wider distance/range created by the 46/32 combo).

[RBW] Re: Brief (largely OT) question

2013-01-18 Thread ted
On some older front derailleurs the inner side of the cage does not come down as far as they do now days. If it doesn't reach low enough that might impact how well it upshifts across the larger (14 vs 10 tooth) change in ring size. Going the other way, I found that a new fd didn't work the way I

[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm AHH F/F/HS/BB and 63cm Backroads Chimayo

2013-01-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
Michael, I would like to see some photos. On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:03:47 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote: Hey Group, Up for sale is a used 61cm AHH F/F/HS/BB. Its Toyo built, if that means anything. Repainted Butterscotch. Its 'creamier' in life than in the photos.

Re: [RBW] WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???

2013-01-18 Thread Steven Frederick
The Herons were Rivendell's first stock models. They were blue collar, frames 90-some percent of the original Rivs (road standard, longlow, all'rounder) but without custom options and therefore available at a lower price. They weren't designed for another company--they were designed by Grant,

Re: [RBW] WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???

2013-01-18 Thread Jim Mather
Here's the Riv Reader page introducing the Heron (RR #11): http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/8392733385/in/photostream On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: The Herons were Rivendell's first stock models. They were blue collar, frames 90-some

[RBW] Re: WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???

2013-01-18 Thread Michael
That is such a pretty Rambouillet. If I was a 52, I'd try to just buy it from the OP. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

Re: [RBW] WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???

2013-01-18 Thread Dan McNamara
Via the internet wayback machine from the Heron site: -What is the history of Heron Bicycles? Heron Bicycles was started in 1997 as a joint venture between Waterford Precision Cycles, Rivendell Bicycle Works, and Rona Components. Waterford manufactured the frames in its Wisconsin factory while

Re: [RBW] WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???

2013-01-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
The first Rivendell models circa 1994 were the Road and the All Rounder. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: The Herons were Rivendell's first stock models. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes,

Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
You know, after looking more closely at what Grant said, and at the photos, I have to agree that the evidence points to more than a brittle or defective dropout. I neglected to consider the damage to the wheel, which points to a stick. So I withdraw my earlier comment. What drew my fire was what

Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
[Now that we've taken care of *that*, let's talk about Lance as talked about by Grant.] On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:08 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: You know, after looking more closely at what Grant said, and at the photos, I have to agree that the evidence points to more than a

[RBW] Re: Brief (largely OT) question

2013-01-18 Thread Ron Mc
I think BB has it right - the vertical right cage clearance over the bare large ring is clear a penny all the way around, but usually just the front end of the derailleur will be the close end, since the cage arc will have a larger radius than the chainring. On Friday, January 18, 2013

[RBW] Renovelo

2013-01-18 Thread Peter M
A chance to own a truely one of a kind frame. Wonder if they have a spare headbadge laying around? http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-0055.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Good Deal on Ibex XL and XXL Knickers

2013-01-18 Thread cyclotourist
Tree Fort Bikes has size large in stock and will match that price if anyone is looking for that size. I just ordered a pair! On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: If you are a larger person Sierra Trading Post has a good deal on Ibex El Fito wool

[RBW] riv sighting.

2013-01-18 Thread JL
Who owns the dark blue A Homer Hilson with one DT shifter (front) and one bar end shifter? I saw that bike on the bart this evening. Looks to be a medium sized frame but with a double top tube. Great bike! JL San Francisco -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet

2013-01-18 Thread rw1911
Still ISO an owner of a 62cm Ram who wishes it was just a bit smaller. F/F or complete, color unimportant. FWIW, mine is blue. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8sSi0TE7eow/UJ2O6SelHHI/Cc0/fLIj4LCYALk/s912/ram1.jpg On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 2:49:17 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote: I

Re: [RBW] Good Deal on Ibex XL and XXL Knickers

2013-01-18 Thread Robert Barr
I like Ibex products, and the make, function, and price of these knickers looks good, but I dislike the old style cycling pads and it looks like these knickers have one built in. I can't tell from the pictures at Ibex if it is easy to snip out. If you have a pair in hand would you please let me

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet

2013-01-18 Thread Peter Morgano
64cm Renovelo too big? On Jan 18, 2013 10:33 PM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: Still ISO an owner of a 62cm Ram who wishes it was just a bit smaller. F/F or complete, color unimportant. FWIW, mine is blue.

[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread Michael
@JimThill: a pic of the cranks or the whole bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MycCGcGb1isJ. To post to this group, send

Re: [RBW] Good Deal on Ibex XL and XXL Knickers

2013-01-18 Thread Brian Hanson
Not easy to remove those liners... Brian Seattle, WA On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Robert Barr rcba...@gmail.com wrote: I like Ibex products, and the make, function, and price of these knickers looks good, but I dislike the old style cycling pads and it looks like these knickers have one

Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-18 Thread rw1911
This is counter-intuitive to the assumption that higher bars equal a better more comfortable position. I kept raising my bars in search of comfort. I usually ride on the brake hoods and after many miles found the drops more comfortable so I lowered the bars to 1-2cm below the saddle and

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet

2013-01-18 Thread rw1911
Thanks Peter, I saw the Renovelo. That might be a bit tall for my 89 PBH. (and I just can't get on board with DTTs) On Friday, January 18, 2013 10:51:16 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: 64cm Renovelo too big? On Jan 18, 2013 10:33 PM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Still ISO an owner

[RBW] Re: Good Deal on Ibex XL and XXL Knickers

2013-01-18 Thread Mike Schiller
I have not done it on mine but I know of a few people who have using a steam ripper. Not sure how it looks after but it has been done. read here.. http://oceanaircycles.com/2013/01/07/unstable-weather/ ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet

2013-01-18 Thread Ryan Ray
How do you keep your skinwalls so CLEAN? Seriously, I might switch from paselas just to get nice black sidewalls. - Ryan On Friday, January 18, 2013 7:33:07 PM UTC-8, rw1911 wrote: Still ISO an owner of a 62cm Ram who wishes it was just a bit smaller. F/F or complete, color unimportant.

[RBW] Hunqaparallel

2013-01-18 Thread James Warren
This was a fun assembly, and I'm very lucky I happened to look at the Riv site right when this prototype Hunqapillar went for sale. I'm riding it daily, and I love it, especially with nicely indexing stem shifters. I can't wait to get some 700x55's on it, probably Big Bens. This is a fun bike.