Re: [RBW] Riv bikes packed for an adventure
A very good sight to see. Happy new bike owners, and happy income for Rivendell. Win-win! On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: I stopped by RBW to take advantage of the Jack Brown sale and saw these lovelies waiting for a ride to their new homes. This sight always cheers me up, thinking about happy new Riv riders. One of these is going to Australia; I didn't notice where the others are headed. Is one of them yours? jim m wc ca https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7hbaBQNF99E/UPjWUmsiGII/Akw/WyuVq6lFTAs/s1600/IMG-20130111-00062.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/X_QDrXsSJNgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
That is a great video.Lots of honesty and interesting details, especially for us Rivendell geeks, but also genuinely intriguing for anyone remotely aware of nature and potential hazards of small business. Glad to see the Appaloosa bike is going to happen, and the new IRD 8-speed 12-34 cassettes sound good. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:54:42 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ Extensive post with new video about RBW staff. Great stuff by Jay, as usual; it's nice to see his video work again. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6Jiz5UxgWTAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell
I think the fistful of seatpost is more a general measure of a good frame size, rather than a measurement for saddle height. I'd suggest only adjusting one parameter at a time until you get dialed in. Just try the bars at a different height for now and see how that feels. On Friday, January 18, 2013 12:36:36 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yx8CJcjZ450J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: wtb: 59cm A. Homer Hilsen
Every time I get on my Ram, I think to myself this is the best bike I've ever ridden. Then of course, when I take out the Saluki, it's This bike is the most comfortable bike I've owned. So why is it that I was so eager to get back on the Road last Saturday having not been on it for a few weeks? :) On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Don Compton dpco...@gmail.com wrote: Pondero, I had the same experience selling my Ram frameset. A year later I bought a Roadeo. Riv's have a certain feel in terms of handling and it just doesn't to exist in other makes. Don C. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv bikes packed for an adventure
I like the tall boxes On Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:00:18 PM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote: I stopped by RBW to take advantage of the Jack Brown sale and saw these lovelies waiting for a ride to their new homes. This sight always cheers me up, thinking about happy new Riv riders. One of these is going to Australia; I didn't notice where the others are headed. Is one of them yours? jim m wc ca https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7hbaBQNF99E/UPjWUmsiGII/Akw/WyuVq6lFTAs/s1600/IMG-20130111-00062.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/INFeGp25EZoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good Deal on Ibex XL and XXL Knickers
I found another good deal at sierratradingpost http://www.sierratradingpost.com/smartwool-nts-base-layer-boot-top-bottoms-merino-wool-3and4-length-midweight-for-men~p~4972t/?colorFamily=01 smartwool knicker base layer to wear under your Rivbike MUSA knickers On Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:02:08 PM UTC-6, Mike Schiller wrote: If you are a larger person Sierra Trading Post has a good deal on Ibex El Fito wool knickers right now. I just got a pair of XL's and they fit me great ( 5'11 and 190lbs). These things are the Bee's Knees for cold weather riding. http://www.sierratradingpost.com/ibex-el-fito-three-quarter-cycling-knickers-merino-wool-for-men~p~5211r/?filterString=s~el-fito%2FcolorFamily=01 ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gpFywx69sPUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell
I'm not claiming this is the cause of your back pain, rather I am relating to a time on a new bike where I had lower back pain. What I slammed the saddle all the way back set the height and figured I was good. All three contact points lined up except for seat in relation to the crank.Seems It was further back. So I slid the saddle forward on the rails to where it was the same as on other bikes... and the back pain went away. It may be something to check. Kelly On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:36:36 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mAn8-sWha2QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell
agree on the one at a time adjustment process. The last thing I tried to adjust was angle on the bar, and found at the end of a painful 20-mi ride (the pain didn't show up until the end) that it was better where I started. On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:36:36 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JuNsQ5-wcgkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
I would like to see a nicely edited tasteful video of Mark doing a full bike build. Not long and boring, but more his philosophy and let's say 20 of the finer points he pays attention to when doing a build ie the Zen And The Art of Building a Rivendell. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:54:42 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ Extensive post with new video about RBW staff. Great stuff by Jay, as usual; it's nice to see his video work again. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6C96f893uXAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Ritchey RBW video captures a life lesson...
You are lucky indeed if you can earn a sufficient living by doing what you love. Most of us have to indulge our personal loves in our spare time. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Now 44, I have, through the years learned that one must do what they love for a living if one wants to optimize chances for happiness in life. That's music and bikes for me. What about you? -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Ritchey RBW video captures a life lesson...
True. Which, for me, makes this video even more inspirational. Thanks to Jay, to the in-house musicmakers, and all of the subjects for sharing. It was great. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 10:57 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Ritchey RBW video captures a life lesson... You are lucky indeed if you can earn a sufficient living by doing what you love. Most of us have to indulge our personal loves in our spare time. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:24 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.commailto:john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Now 44, I have, through the years learned that one must do what they love for a living if one wants to optimize chances for happiness in life. That's music and bikes for me. What about you? -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ritchey RBW video captures a life lesson...
I think the job part is a misconception. If you do what you love, you own the business. On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:24:58 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: If I was 20 years old again, I'd fly to California and try to get a job at RBW, the Lord willing. Rivendell Bike Works looks like a great place to just be yourself, and love the folks around you while doing a job you love. I am impressed by hearing over and over again how RBW wants to treat others how they would like to be treated. Grant has written it in the readers, and put his money where his mouth is on that several times from what I have heard/read. Mark said it in the video about his mechanics work. Jenny showed it in her nice letter about her raise to Grant. Robert shows it in the packing he does. That their packing is the best in the world, and its because of him, as Grant says, shows an employee who has raised their job to art and sounds like a very realized person in their job. I only got partway through the video. I will finish it later. It is 2:20 am here in Maryland. Gotta get some sleep. I hope the weather will be good tomorrow so I can ride my Rivendell. Now 44, I have, through the years learned that one must do what they love for a living if one wants to optimize chances for happiness in life. That's music and bikes for me. What about you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZmLmGQpm1JIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ritchey RBW video captures a life lesson...
I would love to be a pro bassist for some established contemporary Christian group and I wouldn't be the owner in that case. I guess every job has its ups and downs. But doing what one loves would be a start. I think I would be more serious about pursuing that if I had to do it all over again (I can hear our older RBWOwnersBunch group-friends saying Its not too late! now). Like Patrick said, doing what one loves and being able to make a living at it don't go hand in hand always. So I play bass in my spare time. And I love playing at church. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/isJAmYHpQG8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
That Hunqapillar story irritates me. Getting something crossed up in a wheel is a hazard of riding a bicycle. If something gets in there and you keep pedaling, either the wheel is going to stop spinning, or something's going to snap. If I did that to my Saluki, I would expect to pay for the repair, not express disappointment in the frame. This is ridiculous. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:45:23 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: We had a customer a few years ago break a Sam. Long story short: the fellow was abusive to the bike, and the cracked frame didn't surprise me. In the course of this fiasco, the guy became extremely upset with me and with Riv. It started to become clear that no reasonable solution was going to make him into a happy customer (and I wasn't going to be bullied into an unreasonable solution). I actually didn't feel a full replacement was warranted. I told all of this to Riv. Nonetheless, Grant sent me a new frame for the guy. And new Silver sidepulls, since the broken frame was the earlier canti version. There was little or nothing to gain from this gesture, nor was it a slam-dunk that Riv was obligated in any way...but Grant gave the guy the extreme benefit of the doubt. I always admired that turn the other cheek approach to customer service. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uIuBviGPn4QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
Really enjoyed the short film. I had a good feeling about that Rivendell crew; now I know why. The music was perfect. Shawn On Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:54:42 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ Extensive post with new video about RBW staff. Great stuff by Jay, as usual; it's nice to see his video work again. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RdSUr_hMLY8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
loved that video. nice job jay! I didn't know how compelling a 30 minute video could be, but man that thing just flies right by. Makes me like the company even more, and really makes me want to get out on an S24O soon. Dave On Friday, January 18, 2013 9:12:20 AM UTC-8, shawn m. wrote: Really enjoyed the short film. I had a good feeling about that Rivendell crew; now I know why. The music was perfect. Shawn On Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:54:42 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ Extensive post with new video about RBW staff. Great stuff by Jay, as usual; it's nice to see his video work again. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/beQy0DYKVsgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
From the evidence that Grant provided, you can't validly make that conclusion. Allow me to make a humble retraction. I can only validly lay 100% of the fault at the feet of the rider, not one scintilla more. 200% was unfair of me. Mea culpa. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:25:47 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: From the evidence that Grant provided, you can't validly make that conclusion. Me, I worked in sales, too -- insurance -- and dealt with idiot and knavish clients, so nothing would surprise me; and indeed, JRA would be very odd here. But the evidence as given does not allow of more than a suspicion, even if a good and well informed one. Logic: what *do* they teach them in these schools? On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 6:55 PM, William tape...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Some aspects of retail are really horrible, and I really do not miss from my past life. That broken Hunqa, 200% the rider's fault, and Riv is eating a frameset over it, and the customer is still disappointed. That steams me more than a little. On Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:54:42 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ Extensive post with new video about RBW staff. Great stuff by Jay, as usual; it's nice to see his video work again. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-WUWaqvpMlsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5IFiXunaC9sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
I really really liked that video. Entertaining and informative. Some folks will watch it and chuckle, thinking it's like something out of Portlandia but others will probably be drawn in by it. My favorite parts were Grant talking at the beginning and the footage of Rich bombing down O'Shaughnessy on his Xtracycle loaded with wheels. As a Riv enthusiast, I'd love to see videos for each model, like the Hunqapillar video but I doubt that will happen. I've found the how-to videos that they've posted quite helpful. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uVlSkIoE2T8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
try bars -1cm below saddle height On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2Hz41h_jNXcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Brief (largely OT) question
This group is such a resource - I hope Jim (and others) will tolerate a very brief and targeted (but admittedly OT) question. Perhaps any replies could be off-line? I'm building up a 1970s Raleigh Competition, recently refitted and beautifully restored as a rando bike. I'll be using Huret Jubilee derailleurs. Am I correct that I can safely choose a 14 tooth gap in the front - like, say, a 46-32? Probably a new Herse crankset, maybe a TA Cyclotouriste. Thanks all. Tom -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???
FWIW, early Herons (made by Waterford of Reynolds 531) are as much Rivendells as the Rambouillet. Good luck with your search! Steve On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Christopher Kopp koppchristop...@gmail.com wrote: Hello RBW Owners! I bought a beautiful blue 52cm Rambouillet with 26 wheels for my lady, who was less excited than I was about it. Its been gathering dust and Ive* *been trying to sell it locally, but today I stole its crosstop levers for another project and realized this needs to get out before I start cannibalizing anything else. I would really like to trade this for another Rivendell in my size, my PBH is 85.7 so I guess that puts me around a 58-60 Rivendell, I normally ride a 56. I am not looking for a double top tube or mixte. Rivendell only please, no Bridgestone, Heron etc. The Rambouillet is 52cm, and uses 26 (559) wheels. Parts rundown on request, mix of 105/Ultegra/Nitto/Sugino. It can be made ready to ride or go out as-is. As-is things being: brakes not hooked up (I stole the crosstop levers...), cables are frayed, natural cork bar tape wasn't shellacked so looks a little meh (but theres twine!), tires are functional but very worn (Paselas). Frame is an 8.5 out of 10, just a couple small beausage scratches and chips, no chain suck damage or dents. I'd prefer to trade straight across, but cash (yours or mine) plus trades would be considered for the right deal. Straight up cash considered, but I'm holding out for a little while unless you make me an offer I cant refuse. Bonus point all around if you are in the Seattle/Tacoma area. Yours can be a frameset or a complete, or somewhere in between. No damage like crashes, bends and dents, but I'm OK with less than perfect paint. I would especially like an olive Saluki... Cheers, Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MuqEy4Al3uQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sam on craigslist in Boulder,CO
Looks like a pretty good deal on a Sam Hillborne http://boulder.craigslist.org/bik/3539151183.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
Having the seat too far back was the source of my lower backpain FWIW... Steve On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2Hz41h_jNXcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
Not on the basis of the evidence, you can't. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Allow me to make a humble retraction. I can only validly lay 100% of the fault at the feet of the rider, not one scintilla more. 200% was unfair of me. Mea culpa. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
Oh, I thought you were joking around since I said 200%. Care to share your theory? I'm apparently not smart enough to conceive a way that this could possibly be a defective frame. On Friday, January 18, 2013 12:08:21 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Not on the basis of the evidence, you can't. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM, William tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Allow me to make a humble retraction. I can only validly lay 100% of the fault at the feet of the rider, not one scintilla more. 200% was unfair of me. Mea culpa. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EFPeycGuq_YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell
How can shove the saddle all the way back and fist full of post be helpful fitting guides for a given individual on a given bike? Fist full of post is a frame sizing guide, not a saddle adjustment tool, and shove the saddle all the way back can't be more than a starting point for a personalized fit, just as the evil and maligned KOPS is nothing but a generalized starting point for a personalized fit. Sounds to me like you've gotta get some knowledgeable help getting your saddle height and fore-aft set up -- for you. Then you can work on the bars. As an aside -- I have stems of four or five different lengths lying around, and every so often I'll change out a stem to try to make a little tweak to an established set-up. When I'm in lousy shape, I ride with my 7-degree stem flipped up; when I'm fitter, it gets turned over for less bar height. I'll also tweak saddle position pretty regularly - I carry tools with me to do that. But I'm down to saddle adjustments of 2-3 mm at a time. Yes, I can feel those changes. pb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tAvvRE5HVTYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell
I think that some of us are princess and the pea type riders and some of us arent. I can also tell 2-3mm in seatpost difference, so much that I use a nice permanent marker to mark out where i left it and what date so I can go back and see how it feels (I use a pencil for the stem), some of us are that anal. If you are one of those people go to the bike shop and have a fitting done, only you have to also be one of those forceful people who wont let them cram you into some uncomfortable position while telling you how comfortable it will get. Remember you are paying for a service so just keep tweaking it until you get it right. Winter is a good time for this stuff since most shops are pretty slow and would welcome some side business. I use my fluid trainer and block at home to do adjustments, while my wife looks puzzlingly as I move the seat and stem around incrementally. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:29 PM, pb pbridge...@aol.com wrote: How can shove the saddle all the way back and fist full of post be helpful fitting guides for a given individual on a given bike? Fist full of post is a frame sizing guide, not a saddle adjustment tool, and shove the saddle all the way back can't be more than a starting point for a personalized fit, just as the evil and maligned KOPS is nothing but a generalized starting point for a personalized fit. Sounds to me like you've gotta get some knowledgeable help getting your saddle height and fore-aft set up -- for you. Then you can work on the bars. As an aside -- I have stems of four or five different lengths lying around, and every so often I'll change out a stem to try to make a little tweak to an established set-up. When I'm in lousy shape, I ride with my 7-degree stem flipped up; when I'm fitter, it gets turned over for less bar height. I'll also tweak saddle position pretty regularly - I carry tools with me to do that. But I'm down to saddle adjustments of 2-3 mm at a time. Yes, I can feel those changes. pb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tAvvRE5HVTYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell
Another variable may be saddle tilt. As my bars have gotten higher and I have become more upright, a little more nose up on the saddle has helped to relieve some lower back pain. -Eric INDPLS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/w1RBQ9a3Ml8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing
Just don't poke fun at the $15 shifter Skenry, that was me... On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:53:02 PM UTC-5, Skenry wrote: Its nice to sell stuff here (or on the BoB list) because its easy. But really its not that hard to sell on eBay. I posted about 9 things last week and am in process of having about a $500 day from stuff in my garage. I'm sure I could have listed and sold here, and I did post an auction link, but eBay lets the market drive the price up. Due to the nature of an auction, I'm getting many times what I would have offered via an email here. Example: $26 for a broken rear deraileur and $62 for some obsolete pedals God Bless the Free Market!!! Scott On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Michael john1...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I bought my Bleriot online from a really nice guy either from here, the BOG, or a general cycling forum. I don't know which. He was very helpful and patient to answer all my pre-purchase questions and even questions I had during assembly. He was very kind, and although he was going to ask for more on ebay, he sold the bike to me for a very nice price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cllN2a_F48cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AaagHu4vwmsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Ritchey RBW video captures a life lesson...
Michael, I totally agree. I came from a long line of brewers. I worked for Anheuser Busch, same as my Dad. However, I hated my job. I stayed until retirement, but I wish I had all those years back. -Ricky On Friday, January 18, 2013 2:24:58 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: If I was 20 years old again, I'd fly to California and try to get a job at RBW, the Lord willing. Rivendell Bike Works looks like a great place to just be yourself, and love the folks around you while doing a job you love. I am impressed by hearing over and over again how RBW wants to treat others how they would like to be treated. Grant has written it in the readers, and put his money where his mouth is on that several times from what I have heard/read. Mark said it in the video about his mechanics work. Jenny showed it in her nice letter about her raise to Grant. Robert shows it in the packing he does. That their packing is the best in the world, and its because of him, as Grant says, shows an employee who has raised their job to art and sounds like a very realized person in their job. I only got partway through the video. I will finish it later. It is 2:20 am here in Maryland. Gotta get some sleep. I hope the weather will be good tomorrow so I can ride my Rivendell. Now 44, I have, through the years learned that one must do what they love for a living if one wants to optimize chances for happiness in life. That's music and bikes for me. What about you? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Y6ezY2FYPucJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 58cm Saluki 650b and Phil touring wheelset w. Red Hertres
Hi Hobie, Can I get some pic's of the wheelset? Regards, Hugh Los Angeles On Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:22:33 AM UTC-8, hobie wrote: Hello. I wanted to sell my wonderful hi end complete Saluki as a whole but no takers, so I'm parting out the bike. First off I'll be listing the Framset and Wheelset. The details are as follows: 1- 58cm Rivendell Saluki 650b frameset in a color called Pea Sage Green. I purchased the frame new over 2 years ago from the Country bike shop in Ohio. The frame is in very good condition although it has a number of scratches and paint chips located in the usual spots. It also has a dent/ding around 4-5mm on the top tube. All scratches and ding have been covered w. clear nail polish. It has 3 water bottle bosses, rack attachments front and rear. Brakes are for centerpull or sidepull. This is the same frame as a Hilsen. Fewer made as a Saluki. With the new Riv price increase on a Hilsen save over $1,100. I personally like my bike to be named after a fast dog!!! $1,100.00 shipped 2- Phil Wood cassette Touring wheelset 32 hole front and rear laced to Velocity Synergy rims silver w. Grand Bois Red Hetres 650bx42 tires and tubes. Purchased the wheelset new from Cambria Outfitters a few years back. The tires are still in excellent condition. These wheels roll,roll,roll,roll.. excellent. $600.00 shipped. Thanks for looking and a belated Happy New Year to all. Hobie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Z9JMGhqADE0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bay Area bike tour write-up and photos
Thanks for the inspiration. One of these day:) On Sunday, January 6, 2013 5:44:40 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Part 1 http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2013/01/san-francisco-area-bike-adventure.html?m=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/exvrq0bd_90J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell
My 2 cents = Saddle slammed back Riv style - Although your hands love it, your back hates it. As we all know it's a balancing act - I would try to find a balance between hands and back with saddle fore/aft adjustment. -Ricky On Friday, January 18, 2013 2:36:36 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HdEcGwbOzEwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
I can feel less than 2mm on seat post height, but what I've found has the most effect on my lower back hurting or not, on any given setup, is the tilt do the saddle. We're talking ANAL here; a quarter turn on one of the seat post screws is sometimes too much. I'd suggest you try that first if you're otherwise comfortable. It'll change the weight distribution on your back. René -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Supply and Demand is a weird thing
No poking fun, that one still works and everything. and it was shipped to you Priority this morning. Scott On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:43 PM, EGNolan egno...@gmail.com wrote: Just don't poke fun at the $15 shifter Skenry, that was me... On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:53:02 PM UTC-5, Skenry wrote: Its nice to sell stuff here (or on the BoB list) because its easy. But really its not that hard to sell on eBay. I posted about 9 things last week and am in process of having about a $500 day from stuff in my garage. I'm sure I could have listed and sold here, and I did post an auction link, but eBay lets the market drive the price up. Due to the nature of an auction, I'm getting many times what I would have offered via an email here. Example: $26 for a broken rear deraileur and $62 for some obsolete pedals God Bless the Free Market!!! Scott On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Michael john1...@gmail.com wrote: I bought my Bleriot online from a really nice guy either from here, the BOG, or a general cycling forum. I don't know which. He was very helpful and patient to answer all my pre-purchase questions and even questions I had during assembly. He was very kind, and although he was going to ask for more on ebay, he sold the bike to me for a very nice price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cllN2a_**F48cJhttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cllN2a_F48cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AaagHu4vwmsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:17 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, I thought you were joking around since I said 200%. Care to share your theory? I'm apparently not smart enough to conceive a way that this could possibly be a defective frame. It *could* be defectively brittle metal, such that it snapped under a teeny tiny insult that you'd barely notice. I'd say that was vanishingly unlikely, but I can conceive it. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
Dropouts are generally cast parts, so it is possible it was defective. But, it's also clear that we have no real business deciding anything about the person who sent it in, and whether it's a valid claim. It's a Rivendell decision and they chose to act in an amazingly upright manner. Having worked in the trenches of retail for a good chunk of my life, I will say that people can come up with an amazing set of rationalizations and requests. It's part of running your own business to determine how you handle each request. - Jim / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/alFyUiau6agJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
I'll drop it. It's probably my ex-retail guilt complex wanting to give Rivendell the benefit of the doubt. If Rivendell wants to give the rider the benefit of the doubt, I've got no reason to be upset about it. They've been kind to me before, too. I shouldn't be bummed at them being kind to someone else. On Friday, January 18, 2013 12:50:16 PM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:17 PM, William tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Oh, I thought you were joking around since I said 200%. Care to share your theory? I'm apparently not smart enough to conceive a way that this could possibly be a defective frame. It *could* be defectively brittle metal, such that it snapped under a teeny tiny insult that you'd barely notice. I'd say that was vanishingly unlikely, but I can conceive it. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6UdqUb1lakAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam on craigslist in Boulder,CO
Wow! Right size, right color, good price, AND local. But I need it like a hole in the head. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cX82nS6-F1EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Brief (largely OT) question
Tom: Good on ya for sticking with the Jubilees... NICE TOUCH!!! I believe the original crank had a 42/52 combo. I would think you'd simply need to mount the front derailleur slightly lower on the seat tube (and position it to accommodate the wider distance/range created by the 46/32 combo). Would there be any reason the derailleur cage couldn't handle this extra distance? Can't wait to see this baby... BB On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:24:28 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: This group is such a resource – I hope Jim (and others) will tolerate a very brief and targeted (but admittedly OT) question. Perhaps any replies could be off-line? I’m building up a 1970s Raleigh Competition, recently refitted and beautifully restored as a rando bike. I’ll be using Huret Jubilee derailleurs. Am I correct that I can safely choose a 14 tooth gap in the front – like, say, a 46-32? Probably a new Herse crankset, maybe a TA Cyclotouriste. Thanks all. Tom -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Hgsb8CHKoU4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Brief (largely OT) question
On some older front derailleurs the inner side of the cage does not come down as far as they do now days. If it doesn't reach low enough that might impact how well it upshifts across the larger (14 vs 10 tooth) change in ring size. Going the other way, I found that a new fd didn't work the way I wanted with a 42/45 setup because with the outer plate set close to the big ring the inner plate ran into the small ring. On Jan 18, 1:51 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Tom: Good on ya for sticking with the Jubilees... NICE TOUCH!!! I believe the original crank had a 42/52 combo. I would think you'd simply need to mount the front derailleur slightly lower on the seat tube (and position it to accommodate the wider distance/range created by the 46/32 combo). Would there be any reason the derailleur cage couldn't handle this extra distance? Can't wait to see this baby... BB On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:24:28 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: This group is such a resource – I hope Jim (and others) will tolerate a very brief and targeted (but admittedly OT) question. Perhaps any replies could be off-line? I’m building up a 1970s Raleigh Competition, recently refitted and beautifully restored as a rando bike. I’ll be using Huret Jubilee derailleurs. Am I correct that I can safely choose a 14 tooth gap in the front – like, say, a 46-32? Probably a new Herse crankset, maybe a TA Cyclotouriste. Thanks all. Tom --- --- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. === === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm AHH F/F/HS/BB and 63cm Backroads Chimayo
Michael, I would like to see some photos. On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:03:47 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote: Hey Group, Up for sale is a used 61cm AHH F/F/HS/BB. Its Toyo built, if that means anything. Repainted Butterscotch. Its 'creamier' in life than in the photos. definitely used, never abused. It has some paint chips here an there that i covered with nail polish. Some chainsuck chips and a little wear on the inside left chainstay from tire rub I guess. I sometimes squeezed 42s, so that is my only guess. There is also some shellac residue on the headtube and a little on the DT and TT. Headset is FSA almost brand new, oldish BB but still is smooth.Asking $1100+ shipping.Would like to sell in the Bay Area if possible. Also have a 63cm backroads Chimayo. All Tange double butted Tubing. replaced the fork with a new one. I still have the old one, but the newer allowed way better clearance. Rides really great Same deal. F/F/HS/BB asking $300 -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QaGUX9Q0vvUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???
The Herons were Rivendell's first stock models. They were blue collar, frames 90-some percent of the original Rivs (road standard, longlow, all'rounder) but without custom options and therefore available at a lower price. They weren't designed for another company--they were designed by Grant, built by Waterford and sold by Rivendell and Rivendell dealers like Harris cyclery.. After a couple of frame runs, Waterford wanted to raise the price of them to the point where Grant didn't think they were a value-priced alternative to the original Riv lineup so he discontinued them. (and replaced them with the Toyo built Rambouillet and Atlantis) They would've just disappeared, but Todd Kumza(sp?) struck a deal to use the name and design, and carried on with the Herons as their own brand name. As best as I can recall. But I'm sure of 99% of that. Steve On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:26:52 PM UTC-5, stevef wrote: FWIW, early Herons (made by Waterford of Reynolds 531) are as much Rivendells as the Rambouillet. Is that really true? I mean, I understand your point, that originally, the Atlantis and the Rambouillet were their 'own' 'brand' of a bike, was what Grant said his intent was. At one point, he even said he used to cringe a little when people referred to them as 'a Rivendell'... but I think that perspective mellowed a bit, that G said he's okay w/ that now. Thing about the Heron: yeah, it was designed by Grant, but, for another company... I can see equating the Soma San Marcos with a Heron. For that matter, I suppose it'd be accurate to say the same about the Bleriot. But the Atlantis, AHH, and Roadeo, the Foy and Hillborne, Bomba and the Hunq... those weren't 'for' another company... and while they're not 'customs', they are the 'models' at Rivendell Maybe I'm offbut that's my take on it anyway -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_MAZUZNbhosJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???
Here's the Riv Reader page introducing the Heron (RR #11): http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/8392733385/in/photostream On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: The Herons were Rivendell's first stock models. They were blue collar, frames 90-some percent of the original Rivs (road standard, longlow, all'rounder) but without custom options and therefore available at a lower price. They weren't designed for another company--they were designed by Grant, built by Waterford and sold by Rivendell and Rivendell dealers like Harris cyclery.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???
That is such a pretty Rambouillet. If I was a 52, I'd try to just buy it from the OP. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-sAkuLoaZGUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???
Via the internet wayback machine from the Heron site: -What is the history of Heron Bicycles? Heron Bicycles was started in 1997 as a joint venture between Waterford Precision Cycles, Rivendell Bicycle Works, and Rona Components. Waterford manufactured the frames in its Wisconsin factory while Rivendell sold them through its mail order operation. Eventually Ted Durant, owner of Rona Components, bought out the other joint venture partners and became sole owner. Waterford continued to manufacture the frames for Ted on a contract basis while Rivendell became an official Heron dealer along with several bike shops. In early 2001, Ted decided to halt production of the Heron frames to focus on other matters. Todd Kuzma, owner of Tullio’s Big Dog Cyclery – a Heron dealer, began discussions with Ted to purchase the company and resume production. Heron Bicycles was sold to Todd Kuzma in January 2002, and production at the Waterford plant began soon thereafter. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: The Herons were Rivendell's first stock models. They were blue collar, frames 90-some percent of the original Rivs (road standard, longlow, all'rounder) but without custom options and therefore available at a lower price. They weren't designed for another company--they were designed by Grant, built by Waterford and sold by Rivendell and Rivendell dealers like Harris cyclery.. After a couple of frame runs, Waterford wanted to raise the price of them to the point where Grant didn't think they were a value-priced alternative to the original Riv lineup so he discontinued them. (and replaced them with the Toyo built Rambouillet and Atlantis) They would've just disappeared, but Todd Kumza(sp?) struck a deal to use the name and design, and carried on with the Herons as their own brand name. As best as I can recall. But I'm sure of 99% of that. Steve On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:26:52 PM UTC-5, stevef wrote: FWIW, early Herons (made by Waterford of Reynolds 531) are as much Rivendells as the Rambouillet. Is that really true? I mean, I understand your point, that originally, the Atlantis and the Rambouillet were their 'own' 'brand' of a bike, was what Grant said his intent was. At one point, he even said he used to cringe a little when people referred to them as 'a Rivendell'... but I think that perspective mellowed a bit, that G said he's okay w/ that now. Thing about the Heron: yeah, it was designed by Grant, but, for another company... I can see equating the Soma San Marcos with a Heron. For that matter, I suppose it'd be accurate to say the same about the Bleriot. But the Atlantis, AHH, and Roadeo, the Foy and Hillborne, Bomba and the Hunq... those weren't 'for' another company... and while they're not 'customs', they are the 'models' at Rivendell Maybe I'm offbut that's my take on it anyway -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_MAZUZNbhosJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???
The first Rivendell models circa 1994 were the Road and the All Rounder. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: The Herons were Rivendell's first stock models. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
You know, after looking more closely at what Grant said, and at the photos, I have to agree that the evidence points to more than a brittle or defective dropout. I neglected to consider the damage to the wheel, which points to a stick. So I withdraw my earlier comment. What drew my fire was what I perceived as excessive defensiveness on behalf of Riv and against the customer. I still think we ought to withhold judgment about hiserher motives, but for the record it looks very much like something that ordinarily would not merit a free frame replacement. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:52 PM, tapebubba tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick I didn't take it as aggressive. Like I said, I thought you were joking around about 200%. Then, I thought maybe you were still joking around about my use of the word fault. Like if a stick got into his rear wheel, that wasn't the rider's fault; it was the stick's fault. My next post was going to see if just assigning 100% of the responsibility to the rider instead of 100% of the fault was what you were after. I simply consider the absence of a plausible theory as sufficient. If there is a plausible theory on how it was a defective frame I was interested in hearing it, that's all. I'm not claiming there is no such thing as a Rivendell defect. What I am saying is I can come up with a dozen plausible scenarios that it is the rider's responsibility and I can't think of any plausible scenarios for that particular incident being caused by a Rivendell. Bill On 1/18/2013 12:25 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Bill -- taking this off list: I've learned the hard way to never assume anything. The judicial maxim is audiatur et altera pars -- Hear the other side also. I think one could safely say, I can validly lay 75% of the fault etc, meaning I am 75% sure it was rider caused, but none of us (perhaps even Grant) knows that the dropout wasn't defective. My second custom Riv came with a defective fork -- the brake hole was drilled too high for the normal reach brake specified. So errors do happen even at the top end of things. Anyway, I don't mean to be agressive; sorry if I was. But I do think that barring more evidence, the question to some degree still remains moot. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, I thought you were joking around since I said 200%. Care to share your theory? I'm apparently not smart enough to conceive a way that this could possibly be a defective frame. On Friday, January 18, 2013 12:08:21 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Not on the basis of the evidence, you can't. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote: Allow me to make a humble retraction. I can only validly lay 100% of the fault at the feet of the rider, not one scintilla more. 200% was unfair of me. Mea culpa. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EFPeycGuq_YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video
[Now that we've taken care of *that*, let's talk about Lance as talked about by Grant.] On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 5:08 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: You know, after looking more closely at what Grant said, and at the photos, I have to agree that the evidence points to more than a brittle or defective dropout. I neglected to consider the damage to the wheel, which points to a stick. So I withdraw my earlier comment. What drew my fire was what I perceived as excessive defensiveness on behalf of Riv and against the customer. I still think we ought to withhold judgment about hiserher motives, but for the record it looks very much like something that ordinarily would not merit a free frame replacement. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:52 PM, tapebubba tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick I didn't take it as aggressive. Like I said, I thought you were joking around about 200%. Then, I thought maybe you were still joking around about my use of the word fault. Like if a stick got into his rear wheel, that wasn't the rider's fault; it was the stick's fault. My next post was going to see if just assigning 100% of the responsibility to the rider instead of 100% of the fault was what you were after. I simply consider the absence of a plausible theory as sufficient. If there is a plausible theory on how it was a defective frame I was interested in hearing it, that's all. I'm not claiming there is no such thing as a Rivendell defect. What I am saying is I can come up with a dozen plausible scenarios that it is the rider's responsibility and I can't think of any plausible scenarios for that particular incident being caused by a Rivendell. Bill On 1/18/2013 12:25 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Bill -- taking this off list: I've learned the hard way to never assume anything. The judicial maxim is audiatur et altera pars -- Hear the other side also. I think one could safely say, I can validly lay 75% of the fault etc, meaning I am 75% sure it was rider caused, but none of us (perhaps even Grant) knows that the dropout wasn't defective. My second custom Riv came with a defective fork -- the brake hole was drilled too high for the normal reach brake specified. So errors do happen even at the top end of things. Anyway, I don't mean to be agressive; sorry if I was. But I do think that barring more evidence, the question to some degree still remains moot. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, I thought you were joking around since I said 200%. Care to share your theory? I'm apparently not smart enough to conceive a way that this could possibly be a defective frame. On Friday, January 18, 2013 12:08:21 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Not on the basis of the evidence, you can't. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM, William tape...@gmail.com wrote: Allow me to make a humble retraction. I can only validly lay 100% of the fault at the feet of the rider, not one scintilla more. 200% was unfair of me. Mea culpa. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EFPeycGuq_YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Brief (largely OT) question
I think BB has it right - the vertical right cage clearance over the bare large ring is clear a penny all the way around, but usually just the front end of the derailleur will be the close end, since the cage arc will have a larger radius than the chainring. On Friday, January 18, 2013 3:51:12 PM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Tom: Good on ya for sticking with the Jubilees... NICE TOUCH!!! I believe the original crank had a 42/52 combo. I would think you'd simply need to mount the front derailleur slightly lower on the seat tube (and position it to accommodate the wider distance/range created by the 46/32 combo). Would there be any reason the derailleur cage couldn't handle this extra distance? Can't wait to see this baby... BB On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:24:28 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: This group is such a resource – I hope Jim (and others) will tolerate a very brief and targeted (but admittedly OT) question. Perhaps any replies could be off-line? I’m building up a 1970s Raleigh Competition, recently refitted and beautifully restored as a rando bike. I’ll be using Huret Jubilee derailleurs. Am I correct that I can safely choose a 14 tooth gap in the front – like, say, a 46-32? Probably a new Herse crankset, maybe a TA Cyclotouriste. Thanks all. Tom -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FEnT3cB_XdUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Renovelo
A chance to own a truely one of a kind frame. Wonder if they have a spare headbadge laying around? http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-0055.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Good Deal on Ibex XL and XXL Knickers
Tree Fort Bikes has size large in stock and will match that price if anyone is looking for that size. I just ordered a pair! On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: If you are a larger person Sierra Trading Post has a good deal on Ibex El Fito wool knickers right now. I just got a pair of XL's and they fit me great ( 5'11 and 190lbs). These things are the Bee's Knees for cold weather riding. http://www.sierratradingpost.com/ibex-el-fito-three-quarter-cycling-knickers-merino-wool-for-men~p~5211r/?filterString=s~el-fito%2FcolorFamily=01 ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/K4bL40hJ50IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] riv sighting.
Who owns the dark blue A Homer Hilson with one DT shifter (front) and one bar end shifter? I saw that bike on the bart this evening. Looks to be a medium sized frame but with a double top tube. Great bike! JL San Francisco -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Z9JEOqiv70cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet
Still ISO an owner of a 62cm Ram who wishes it was just a bit smaller. F/F or complete, color unimportant. FWIW, mine is blue. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8sSi0TE7eow/UJ2O6SelHHI/Cc0/fLIj4LCYALk/s912/ram1.jpg On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 2:49:17 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote: I love my 60cm, but think it might be a tad small. If you have (or know of) a 62cm for sale, please drop me a line. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WlPTO6EsMDUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Good Deal on Ibex XL and XXL Knickers
I like Ibex products, and the make, function, and price of these knickers looks good, but I dislike the old style cycling pads and it looks like these knickers have one built in. I can't tell from the pictures at Ibex if it is easy to snip out. If you have a pair in hand would you please let me know your thoughts on how simple it would be to remove the liner? Bob (Indianapolis) On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:18 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Tree Fort Bikes has size large in stock and will match that price if anyone is looking for that size. I just ordered a pair! On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: If you are a larger person Sierra Trading Post has a good deal on Ibex El Fito wool knickers right now. I just got a pair of XL's and they fit me great ( 5'11 and 190lbs). These things are the Bee's Knees for cold weather riding. http://www.sierratradingpost.com/ibex-el-fito-three-quarter-cycling-knickers-merino-wool-for-men~p~5211r/?filterString=s~el-fito%2FcolorFamily=01 ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/K4bL40hJ50IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet
64cm Renovelo too big? On Jan 18, 2013 10:33 PM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: Still ISO an owner of a 62cm Ram who wishes it was just a bit smaller. F/F or complete, color unimportant. FWIW, mine is blue. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8sSi0TE7eow/UJ2O6SelHHI/Cc0/fLIj4LCYALk/s912/ram1.jpg On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 2:49:17 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote: I love my 60cm, but think it might be a tad small. If you have (or know of) a 62cm for sale, please drop me a line. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WlPTO6EsMDUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell
@JimThill: a pic of the cranks or the whole bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MycCGcGb1isJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Good Deal on Ibex XL and XXL Knickers
Not easy to remove those liners... Brian Seattle, WA On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Robert Barr rcba...@gmail.com wrote: I like Ibex products, and the make, function, and price of these knickers looks good, but I dislike the old style cycling pads and it looks like these knickers have one built in. I can't tell from the pictures at Ibex if it is easy to snip out. If you have a pair in hand would you please let me know your thoughts on how simple it would be to remove the liner? Bob (Indianapolis) On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:18 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Tree Fort Bikes has size large in stock and will match that price if anyone is looking for that size. I just ordered a pair! On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: If you are a larger person Sierra Trading Post has a good deal on Ibex El Fito wool knickers right now. I just got a pair of XL's and they fit me great ( 5'11 and 190lbs). These things are the Bee's Knees for cold weather riding. http://www.sierratradingpost.com/ibex-el-fito-three-quarter-cycling-knickers-merino-wool-for-men~p~5211r/?filterString=s~el-fito%2FcolorFamily=01 ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/K4bL40hJ50IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell
This is counter-intuitive to the assumption that higher bars equal a better more comfortable position. I kept raising my bars in search of comfort. I usually ride on the brake hoods and after many miles found the drops more comfortable so I lowered the bars to 1-2cm below the saddle and haven't looked back. I don't have an explanation other than if your saddle is in the right pace, I think it relates to torso/arm/top tube length and the angle in which your arms meet the bars in your preferred position. (Which also affects the shoulders, neck and back) Each person has different proportions and individual preferences. If going up isn't working, try going down. On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:14:56 PM UTC-5, z-man wrote: try bars -1cm below saddle height On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Michael john1...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding. I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The view is great though. I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the bars as high as one likes method. I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not on my hands. Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go again. I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons. It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2Hz41h_jNXcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oRxtVi1wFDcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet
Thanks Peter, I saw the Renovelo. That might be a bit tall for my 89 PBH. (and I just can't get on board with DTTs) On Friday, January 18, 2013 10:51:16 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: 64cm Renovelo too big? On Jan 18, 2013 10:33 PM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Still ISO an owner of a 62cm Ram who wishes it was just a bit smaller. F/F or complete, color unimportant. FWIW, mine is blue. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8sSi0TE7eow/UJ2O6SelHHI/Cc0/fLIj4LCYALk/s912/ram1.jpg On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 2:49:17 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote: I love my 60cm, but think it might be a tad small. If you have (or know of) a 62cm for sale, please drop me a line. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WlPTO6EsMDUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NoF-swLPYOwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Good Deal on Ibex XL and XXL Knickers
I have not done it on mine but I know of a few people who have using a steam ripper. Not sure how it looks after but it has been done. read here.. http://oceanaircycles.com/2013/01/07/unstable-weather/ ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4X5YFK130B0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet
How do you keep your skinwalls so CLEAN? Seriously, I might switch from paselas just to get nice black sidewalls. - Ryan On Friday, January 18, 2013 7:33:07 PM UTC-8, rw1911 wrote: Still ISO an owner of a 62cm Ram who wishes it was just a bit smaller. F/F or complete, color unimportant. FWIW, mine is blue. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8sSi0TE7eow/UJ2O6SelHHI/Cc0/fLIj4LCYALk/s912/ram1.jpg On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 2:49:17 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote: I love my 60cm, but think it might be a tad small. If you have (or know of) a 62cm for sale, please drop me a line. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bOJoOFgeJOgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Hunqaparallel
This was a fun assembly, and I'm very lucky I happened to look at the Riv site right when this prototype Hunqapillar went for sale. I'm riding it daily, and I love it, especially with nicely indexing stem shifters. I can't wait to get some 700x55's on it, probably Big Bens. This is a fun bike. http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157632554382351/ -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
