Re: [RBW] East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride Recap

2013-03-03 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Yup, it happened.

More proof: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEcTKp4

- David G in SF


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Manuel Acosta
wrote:

> Over the course of riding my bike, I have gotten to ride on a bunch of
> different terrain. Sometimes with the appropriate tires and gearing, most
> of the time not. On these adventures I was lucky enough to share it with a
> variety of different great people. It's always good to see those different
> people getting together and having a good time.
> Bill, Sean, Tom, Dav and I take it to the hills pass Sunol. At Sunol we
> say hi and give a good luck pat on Mayor Bosco. Sunol's actually mayor for
> a good number of years, now turn into beer tap. We met up with Ted who rode
> from Livermoore. Ted being the local took charge of taking us through the
> beautiful riding in near Sunol. We descend down from the ridge into the
> valley to climb back to the ridge to check out the abandon and haunted
> Rancho. We get back to Palomares road and we surprisingly met up with Adam
> and Adam other Rivendell posters on a ride for a picnic. They take the dirt
> road up to the Rancho as we rode down into the town for lunch. The ride
> plan was to Walnut Creek but it ended up being a bit too ambitious. Great
> time.
>
> Pictures proved that the ride was savage:
>  http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEcMF1g
>
>
> -Manny "It's pretty mellow after this..." Acosta
>
>

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[RBW] Re: East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride Recap

2013-03-03 Thread Adam
So glad we ran into you Manny. Hope to catch you for the ride next time.

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:40:32 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Over the course of riding my bike, I have gotten to ride on a bunch of 
> different terrain. Sometimes with the appropriate tires and gearing, most 
> of the time not. On these adventures I was lucky enough to share it with a 
> variety of different great people. It's always good to see those different 
> people getting together and having a good time. 
> Bill, Sean, Tom, Dav and I take it to the hills pass Sunol. At Sunol we 
> say hi and give a good luck pat on Mayor Bosco. Sunol's actually mayor for 
> a good number of years, now turn into beer tap. We met up with Ted who rode 
> from Livermoore. Ted being the local took charge of taking us through the 
> beautiful riding in near Sunol. We descend down from the ridge into the 
> valley to climb back to the ridge to check out the abandon and haunted 
> Rancho. We get back to Palomares road and we surprisingly met up with Adam 
> and Adam other Rivendell posters on a ride for a picnic. They take the dirt 
> road up to the Rancho as we rode down into the town for lunch. The ride 
> plan was to Walnut Creek but it ended up being a bit too ambitious. Great 
> time.
>
> Pictures proved that the ride was savage:
>  http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEcMF1g
>
>
> -Manny "It's pretty mellow after this..." Acosta
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB- Sugino XD2 Crank Triple (driveside)

2013-03-03 Thread Adam
Right. Found the length-170mm. Let me know if you have anything that might 
fit the bill.

Thank you!
Adam

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:09:27 PM UTC-8, Adam wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I've finally concluded that the incessant clicking on my pedal stoke has 
> to do with my damaged drivetrain crank arm. I've tried pedal washers and 
> tons of grease and still the clicking continues. For those that are 
> wondering I've done a full process of elimination with bottom bracket and 
> pedal possibilities.
>
> So...I need a new crank for my drive side. If anyone happens to have an 
> extra single crank arm I'd love to purchase it. Otherwise also interested 
> if anyone has a set. I have chainrings so am covered on that front. They 
> measure 6.5 inches on the inside and 8 inches on the outside. Is that 170mm?
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
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[RBW] Re: East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride 3/3 9:30ish

2013-03-03 Thread Mike Schiller
incredible scenery and fine looking trails.  I'm totally jealous.  

~mike



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Re: [RBW] Front Rack ideas

2013-03-03 Thread William
That Atlantis is sporting the old Nitto Highrider front rack.

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Re: [RBW] Re: wtb (if right size) silver salsa crossing guard

2013-03-03 Thread Seth Vidal
I'd seen the sugino one, of course - but I was never clear if I liked it or
not.

I took your advice and dremeled  down an older big ring. That took some
effort and it looks 'pretty good' but not great. I may try again. a friend
of mine has a bunch of old 110bcd large rings that are all shark-toothed
out. :)

Here's how the hilsen looks without the bashguard:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/8525822942/


I think the chain guard looks pretty good and it sure feels good.


I may have to shorten the chain up a little bit since I don't need it to
stretch for a 48x30 anymore - only a 40x30.

on the whole a productive weekend in the bike shed.
-sv




On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> I've seen them around - cyclocross.com has them, and I reckon there are
> some other options.  An evening dremeling down an old, wornout chainring
> will yield a similar result! ;^)
>
> http://www.cyclocross.com/product/salsa-crossing-guard?
>
> and there's this:
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/chrg.htm
>
> - J
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2013 7:41:52 PM UTC-8, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>
>> I am looking for one of them in good shape. I had one a long while back,
>> sold the bike it was on. Went to look for another one and discovered salsa
>> doesn't make them.
>>
>> If you have one in your shed looking for a home, let me know.
>>
>> thanks,
>> -sv
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[RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-03-03 Thread Manuel Acosta
Looks like same size buddy Hillbornes! 

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 8:08:40 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>
> Congrats! Glad you are enjoying the bike. What size frame?
>>
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Re: [RBW] East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride Recap

2013-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
Solid amount of work put in!


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Manuel Acosta
wrote:

> A solid 4 hours of good riding.
>
>
> On Sunday, March 3, 2013 7:28:44 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Looks like a blast was had! How long were you out for?
>>
>> That area reminds me a LOT of Chino Hills St. Park here in So Cal:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/sets/**
>> 72157623039822208/with/**4201960142/&
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/sets/**
>> 72157629911169108/with/**7276328736/
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:03 PM, William  wrote:
>>
>>> Did the good-luck pat on the head of a statue of a DOG have anything
>>> with me going D.O.G.?  (Down On Ground)
>>>
>>> Anyway, my ribs are a little sore, but it was a gorgeous ride
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Re: [RBW] Roadeo geometry specs

2013-03-03 Thread Don Compton
Your wife's fit.
Remember that Rivs have slack seat tube angles. Actually, they are short 
from the centerline of the spindel to the headtube.

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:47:19 PM UTC-8, Addison wrote:
>
> I wish!  :)  It's a gorgeous bike to be sure.
>
> My wife had a pro fit and it came back putting her in the 51cm ballpark 
> for the roadeo.  I wasn't sure what the TT was on that size.  Looks like it 
> could be a bit long (not surprising on a riv).  
>
> Thanks for the info!
> Addison
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:33 PM, cyclotourist 
> > wrote:
>
>> Got an itch that needs scratchin? :-)
>>
>> google docs spreadsheet: 
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Addison Wilhite 
>> 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Can folks point me to the geometry charts for the Roadeo?  I've looked 
>>> at the riv site and probably am staring right at them but not seeing them.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride Recap

2013-03-03 Thread Manuel Acosta
A solid 4 hours of good riding.

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 7:28:44 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Looks like a blast was had! How long were you out for?
>
> That area reminds me a LOT of Chino Hills St. Park here in So Cal: 
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157623039822208/with/4201960142/&;
>  
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157629911169108/with/7276328736/
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:03 PM, William  >wrote:
>
>> Did the good-luck pat on the head of a statue of a DOG have anything with 
>> me going D.O.G.?  (Down On Ground)
>>
>> Anyway, my ribs are a little sore, but it was a gorgeous ride
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[RBW] Re: Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread Philip Williamson
"Oh no you didn't!" ;^) 
That's a time trial bike. Its an F1 racing machine. The builder is one of the 
top engineers building bikes. He paints them. He races them to championships. 
He includes beautiful details, and machines the parts he designs. I think he 
made the brakes on that bike. 
I would put money down that the NAHBS winning bike is extremely rideable, but 
not for you. Or me. For someone with the power and desire to set a TT course 
record, I think that bike will do it. 

Respectfully,
Philip

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[RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-03-03 Thread Michael

>
> Congrats! Glad you are enjoying the bike. What size frame?
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[RBW] WTB- Sugino XD2 Crank Triple (driveside)

2013-03-03 Thread William
The length is measured center to center.  Center of bb spindle to center of 
pedal axle, and it also should be stamped on the inside edge of the arm itself, 
both of them.  

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Re: [RBW] East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride Recap

2013-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
Looks like a blast was had! How long were you out for?

That area reminds me a LOT of Chino Hills St. Park here in So Cal:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157623039822208/with/4201960142/&;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157629911169108/with/7276328736/


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:03 PM, William  wrote:

> Did the good-luck pat on the head of a statue of a DOG have anything with
> me going D.O.G.?  (Down On Ground)
>
> Anyway, my ribs are a little sore, but it was a gorgeous ride
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[RBW] Is there a spare 42T 110 BCD chainring in Berkeley/North Oakland?

2013-03-03 Thread BSWP
I'm downgrading the gearing on my LongLow, from a 50-46-28 to a 46-XX-24, 
and looking for XX = 42. 
These are on a Ritchey Logic crankset, 5-hole 110 BCD. I just searched my 
spares, and no 42 or 43. 
Some very old BioPace rings, though... yikes.

Ideally someone nearby has one sitting there, and would like to trade it 
for some cash.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Roadeo geometry specs

2013-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
My problem has always been my knee, so maybe it couldn't hurt. I have a
couple good referrals, but none local so it gets put off.

Thanks for the info and congrats on the forthcoming new ride!


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Addison Wilhite wrote:

> I have had one as well.  It is essentially the Serotta fit (my lbs is a
> dealer) but it's generally a good process/series of questions/conversation
> that brings in your own riding goals and style, flexibility, etc.  I found
> it to be a good baseline for seat tube and top tube but given that I still
> have different a slightly different setup for the handlebars including
> height for all of my bikes based on how they are ridden.  Even my gunnar
> crosshairs and sport are pretty different based on how they are ridden.
>  Plus there is the type of bar/shifter setup can make hand positions
> something to play with of course.
>
> I think it's a good idea to have it done but I never went in feeling like
> it was going to be "magic."  Although, I should also say I had my first fit
> for my custom Della Santa and it is still the most extraordinary riding
> bike I've ever been on.
>
> Regards,
> Addison
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:56 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>> How did the fit work out? I've considered one, but presumed they wouldn't
>> grok the Riv thing and try to fit my bars 8cm below seat on a 54cm Madonne.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Addison Wilhite > > wrote:
>>
>>> I wish!  :)  It's a gorgeous bike to be sure.
>>>
>>> My wife had a pro fit and it came back putting her in the 51cm ballpark
>>> for the roadeo.  I wasn't sure what the TT was on that size.  Looks like it
>>> could be a bit long (not surprising on a riv).
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info!
>>> Addison
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:33 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>>>
 Got an itch that needs scratchin? :-)

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 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0


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 addisonwilh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Can folks point me to the geometry charts for the Roadeo?  I've looked
> at the riv site and probably am staring right at them but not seeing them.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [RBW] Roadeo geometry specs

2013-03-03 Thread Addison Wilhite
I have had one as well.  It is essentially the Serotta fit (my lbs is a
dealer) but it's generally a good process/series of questions/conversation
that brings in your own riding goals and style, flexibility, etc.  I found
it to be a good baseline for seat tube and top tube but given that I still
have different a slightly different setup for the handlebars including
height for all of my bikes based on how they are ridden.  Even my gunnar
crosshairs and sport are pretty different based on how they are ridden.
 Plus there is the type of bar/shifter setup can make hand positions
something to play with of course.

I think it's a good idea to have it done but I never went in feeling like
it was going to be "magic."  Although, I should also say I had my first fit
for my custom Della Santa and it is still the most extraordinary riding
bike I've ever been on.

Regards,
Addison


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:56 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:

> How did the fit work out? I've considered one, but presumed they wouldn't
> grok the Riv thing and try to fit my bars 8cm below seat on a 54cm Madonne.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Addison Wilhite 
> wrote:
>
>> I wish!  :)  It's a gorgeous bike to be sure.
>>
>> My wife had a pro fit and it came back putting her in the 51cm ballpark
>> for the roadeo.  I wasn't sure what the TT was on that size.  Looks like it
>> could be a bit long (not surprising on a riv).
>>
>> Thanks for the info!
>> Addison
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:33 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>>
>>> Got an itch that needs scratchin? :-)
>>>
>>> google docs spreadsheet:
>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Addison Wilhite <
>>> addisonwilh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Can folks point me to the geometry charts for the Roadeo?  I've looked
 at the riv site and probably am staring right at them but not seeing them.

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[RBW] East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride Recap

2013-03-03 Thread William
Did the good-luck pat on the head of a statue of a DOG have anything with me 
going D.O.G.?  (Down On Ground)

Anyway, my ribs are a little sore, but it was a gorgeous ride

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Re: [RBW] Roadeo geometry specs

2013-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
How did the fit work out? I've considered one, but presumed they wouldn't
grok the Riv thing and try to fit my bars 8cm below seat on a 54cm Madonne.


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Addison Wilhite wrote:

> I wish!  :)  It's a gorgeous bike to be sure.
>
> My wife had a pro fit and it came back putting her in the 51cm ballpark
> for the roadeo.  I wasn't sure what the TT was on that size.  Looks like it
> could be a bit long (not surprising on a riv).
>
> Thanks for the info!
> Addison
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:33 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
>> Got an itch that needs scratchin? :-)
>>
>> google docs spreadsheet:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Addison Wilhite > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Can folks point me to the geometry charts for the Roadeo?  I've looked
>>> at the riv site and probably am staring right at them but not seeing them.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride Recap

2013-03-03 Thread Michael Williams
Manny!   looks like another great ride! wish I couldve been there.
The contrast of the greens/browns/blues are amzing.   Put a big smile on my
face looking at the pics.   -Mike

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Manuel Acosta
wrote:

> Over the course of riding my bike, I have gotten to ride on a bunch of
> different terrain. Sometimes with the appropriate tires and gearing, most
> of the time not. On these adventures I was lucky enough to share it with a
> variety of different great people. It's always good to see those different
> people getting together and having a good time.
> Bill, Sean, Tom, Dav and I take it to the hills pass Sunol. At Sunol we
> say hi and give a good luck pat on Mayor Bosco. Sunol's actually mayor for
> a good number of years, now turn into beer tap. We met up with Ted who rode
> from Livermoore. Ted being the local took charge of taking us through the
> beautiful riding in near Sunol. We descend down from the ridge into the
> valley to climb back to the ridge to check out the abandon and haunted
> Rancho. We get back to Palomares road and we surprisingly met up with Adam
> and Adam other Rivendell posters on a ride for a picnic. They take the dirt
> road up to the Rancho as we rode down into the town for lunch. The ride
> plan was to Walnut Creek but it ended up being a bit too ambitious. Great
> time.
>
> Pictures proved that the ride was savage:
>  http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEcMF1g
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Re: [RBW] Roadeo geometry specs

2013-03-03 Thread Addison Wilhite
I wish!  :)  It's a gorgeous bike to be sure.

My wife had a pro fit and it came back putting her in the 51cm ballpark for
the roadeo.  I wasn't sure what the TT was on that size.  Looks like it
could be a bit long (not surprising on a riv).

Thanks for the info!
Addison


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>
> google docs spreadsheet:
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>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Addison Wilhite 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Can folks point me to the geometry charts for the Roadeo?  I've looked at
>> the riv site and probably am staring right at them but not seeing them.
>>
>> Thanks!
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[RBW] East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride Recap

2013-03-03 Thread Manuel Acosta
Over the course of riding my bike, I have gotten to ride on a bunch of 
different terrain. Sometimes with the appropriate tires and gearing, most 
of the time not. On these adventures I was lucky enough to share it with a 
variety of different great people. It's always good to see those different 
people getting together and having a good time. 
Bill, Sean, Tom, Dav and I take it to the hills pass Sunol. At Sunol we say 
hi and give a good luck pat on Mayor Bosco. Sunol's actually mayor for a 
good number of years, now turn into beer tap. We met up with Ted who rode 
from Livermoore. Ted being the local took charge of taking us through the 
beautiful riding in near Sunol. We descend down from the ridge into the 
valley to climb back to the ridge to check out the abandon and haunted 
Rancho. We get back to Palomares road and we surprisingly met up with Adam 
and Adam other Rivendell posters on a ride for a picnic. They take the dirt 
road up to the Rancho as we rode down into the town for lunch. The ride 
plan was to Walnut Creek but it ended up being a bit too ambitious. Great 
time.

Pictures proved that the ride was savage:
 http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEcMF1g


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Re: [RBW] Roadeo geometry specs

2013-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
Got an itch that needs scratchin? :-)

google docs spreadsheet:
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> Hi all,
>
> Can folks point me to the geometry charts for the Roadeo?  I've looked at
> the riv site and probably am staring right at them but not seeing them.
>
> Thanks!
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[RBW] Roadeo geometry specs

2013-03-03 Thread Addison Wilhite
Hi all,

Can folks point me to the geometry charts for the Roadeo?  I've looked at
the riv site and probably am staring right at them but not seeing them.

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[RBW] WTB- Sugino XD2 Crank Triple (driveside)

2013-03-03 Thread Adam
Hey all,

I've finally concluded that the incessant clicking on my pedal stoke has to 
do with my damaged drivetrain crank arm. I've tried pedal washers and tons 
of grease and still the clicking continues. For those that are wondering 
I've done a full process of elimination with bottom bracket and pedal 
possibilities.

So...I need a new crank for my drive side. If anyone happens to have an 
extra single crank arm I'd love to purchase it. Otherwise also interested 
if anyone has a set. I have chainrings so am covered on that front. They 
measure 6.5 inches on the inside and 8 inches on the outside. Is that 170mm?

Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: Sugino crank question

2013-03-03 Thread dougP
On mine, the chain gets caught between the middle ring & chainstay.  When 
this happens, the chain is on the inner ring at the top but the section 
that's disengaging from middle to inner gets stuck between the stay & the 
middle.  Visually, there appears to be more space between the inner & 
middle rings than the middle & outer rings.

Mine is an XD with flat rings (no ramps or pins), with a 110 mm BB.  I'd 
thought that next time I need a BB I'd go up to a 113 to give the chain 
more clearance with the stay.  Agree that Sugino's "hidden bolt" is a PITA, 
and serves no useful purpose.  

dougP

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>
> The standard def. of chain suck is getting the chain stick between the 
> chain stay and granny ring. I've never experienced or heard of the chain 
> getting stuck between the middle and granny.  What width chain are you 
> using?  I normally use an 8 speed chain on my bikes with the Sugino crank.  
>
> ~mike
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: wtb (if right size) silver salsa crossing guard

2013-03-03 Thread Brian Campbell
BBG makes some nice ones as well.

http://bbgbashguard.com/Cyclocross.html

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 3:01:38 PM UTC-5, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
> I thought about doing the dremel on an old chainring - I just need to find 
> one of the right size.
>
> -sv
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Cyclofiend Jim 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> I've seen them around - cyclocross.com has them, and I reckon there are 
>> some other options.  An evening dremeling down an old, wornout chainring 
>> will yield a similar result! ;^)
>>
>> http://www.cyclocross.com/product/salsa-crossing-guard?
>>
>> and there's this:
>>
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/chrg.htm
>>
>> - J
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2013 7:41:52 PM UTC-8, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>>
>>> I am looking for one of them in good shape. I had one a long while back, 
>>> sold the bike it was on. Went to look for another one and discovered salsa 
>>> doesn't make them.
>>>
>>> If you have one in your shed looking for a home, let me know.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> -sv
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Re: [RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread Matthew J
Ok, I'm convinced.  Fenders in LA too.

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[RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-03-03 Thread hsmitham
Welcome to the group. That's a great looking Hillborne and great setup. 
Enjoy in good health.

Hugh
Sunland, CA

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Re: [RBW] Front Rack ideas

2013-03-03 Thread Minh
i don't think that's right, if you look at that atlantis pic here, 
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-atlantis.htm (first one), notice the 
front rack has a bar in the middle, and also notice the rod that goes from 
the midfork brazon to the rack, the rack has a corresponding tab to bolt 
the rod.

it's kind of like the mt campee rear, but again not an exact match, still 
not sure which rack that is!

btw the older big front racks will fit some bikes without the p-clams, it 
fits mine but i can't explain why. 
 http://flic.kr/p/dUxFk4
http://flic.kr/p/c2paNj

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> René, you are right - that is the current BRR on the front of the 
> photo-lantis.  So the BRR will be my BFR.  Nice. Thanks!
>
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[RBW] Re: OT - Family Biking

2013-03-03 Thread bwphoto


Thanks for posting this Smitty...I have enjoyed reading several family 
riding blogs each one taking me back to the early days of family riding as 
I am sure is the case with some of the other "old folks" here. We really 
didn't have much in the way of resources or products to carry our kids...just 
this.
 
I remember returning from SE Asia and feeling like I was in a diferent 
world when returned to KU for grad school...there were bikes everywhere, 
when just four years earlier there were only a small handful of us. When 
Cannondale came out with the 
Buggerin
 the earlier '70s things started to change, we bought one right away and 
soon had a small group of young families who loved to ride like us joining 
us on weekend bugger rides. We were all hopeful that some day moving around 
by bike would not be sen as an oddity but rather a normal and sensible way 
of travel.

Our kids had the same sense of excitement as we pulled them around behind 
us as I have read about other families with their long tails. All of you 
young families are doing more in your everyday kid and cargo carrying 
errands to demonstrate how to *Just Ride*, hopefully the momentum will 
continue to build, I'd really like to see the results in my life time.

Keep it up and remember it really boils down to Grant's fundamental thesis 
that riding is all about moving ourselves under our own power and enjoying 
it in the process. Thanks for indulging me in my memories it is heart 
warming to see how far we have come.  

On Saturday, March 2, 2013 7:07:36 PM UTC-6, Savvas wrote:
>
> Andy,
>
> Nice blog article and nice thread. If this family cycling business is a 
> possibke direction for Riv then I don't think the thread is OT. Here's a 
> link to a flikr set I have been accumulating of 'family cycling' far away 
> and long ago (for some anyway): 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/48163544@N02/8362805783/in/set-72157632477907968
>
> May be of some interest and perhaps inspiration...
>
> Looking back at these bikes they are rather 'Riv-ish' in their organic, 
> make-do approach! And the people depicted were living car-free back in the 
> '70s and '80s!
>
> Savvas
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2013 2:49:27 AM UTC+10:30, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> This is somewhat OT but the pics are full of stuff from Riv... Aussie 
>> Wool, Bosco Bars, Betty Foy, Cork Grips, and more. I wrote a guest post on 
>> a friends blog about family biking and going car-free. Thought it might be 
>> of interest to some folks on here. 
>>
>> Becoming A Biking 
>> Family
>>
>> --Smitty
>>
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[RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen lapel pin UPDATE

2013-03-03 Thread Rusty Click
I'm good for 3 pins, and 3 patches, if they come through!

Thanks for the work on this, now, where's my coffee?



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>
> OK I wanted to give an update on this project.
>
> A new batch of pins has been ordered and I was given a 4 week delivery 
> time. Both previous orders arrived faster, but plan on the full 4. I am 
> awaiting my invoice to determine pricing adjustments.
>
> I have also sent the artwork for getting a quote on patches. Luckily they 
> do not have to be ordered in high quantity. Pricing and availability TBD.
>
> After a bunch of research it looks like Bigcartel is the perfect solution 
> for handling the orders. THANK YOU Brian (Benedikt) for that suggestion!! 
> Free pin for you!
>
> I am in the process of setting up the storefront and when the product 
> arrives, I will add the inventory and post the link here. Simple add to 
> cart and pay. I'll add patches if/when they happen.
>
> Cheers!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
I love seeing a bike set up purposeful for the rider. Your Hillborne looks
just that!


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Rusty Click  wrote:

> Hi Kellie, and welcome.  That's a great looking bike.
>
> I received mine a little over a year ago (green), and love it.  I also
> like all the help and info here on the site.
>
> Rusty
>
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2013 7:39:17 PM UTC-5, Kellie Stapleton wrote:
>>
>> Just joined this group recently after picking up my new Hillborne from
>> RBW HQ the beginning of Feb. Love the atmosphere here, and my new bike.
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[RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-03-03 Thread Rusty Click
Hi Kellie, and welcome.  That's a great looking bike.  

I received mine a little over a year ago (green), and love it.  I also like 
all the help and info here on the site.

Rusty


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>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Touring Cantis - Silver

2013-03-03 Thread Marty
Sold, pending payment.

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Re: [RBW] Introduction

2013-03-03 Thread Dan McNamara
Great looking ride! Welcome!

Dan

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[RBW] Re: FS in Berkeley, CA: 56cm Sam Hillborne, Orange, Single TT, Canti, Waterford-Built

2013-03-03 Thread Daniel M
The bike is still available, but the Craigslist posting has expired.  Here 
is a link to the refreshed post:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3656403116.html

I hope I'm not violating any guideline or community etiquette by linking to 
my own craigslist post; I've never set up a Flickr or Picassa account 
before so this is the best way I know of to share photos.

Feel free to contact me with any questions; I'd be happy to share my phone 
number once I know you're not a robot!

Thanks again,

Daniel

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Re: [RBW] Introduction

2013-03-03 Thread Lyle Bogart
Welcome! I agree with Bob--that's a fine looking Hillborne!

Cheers!

lyle

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> Welcome! You'll find a wealth of information and plenty of support around
> here, I know I have.
>
> That's a sweet looking bike and I love the M-bars. I had them on my
> Quickbeam for years till I switched looks. They'll be going on another bike
> soon.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Bob
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[RBW] Re: Introduction

2013-03-03 Thread Deacon Patrick
Welcome, Kellie! Sweet ride! I've had my Hunqapillar for a year now and 
absolutely love it.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen lapel pin UPDATE

2013-03-03 Thread Dan McNamara
I am in for 2. 

Dan

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[RBW] FS: Paul Touring Cantis - Silver

2013-03-03 Thread Marty
Touring model. Enough for one bike. Front and rear. Silver. Little use. 
Comes with Cool Stop pads. $125 shipped.

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Re: [RBW] Introduction

2013-03-03 Thread Robert Harrison
Welcome! You'll find a wealth of information and plenty of support around here, 
I know I have. 

That's a sweet looking bike and I love the M-bars. I had them on my Quickbeam 
for years till I switched looks. They'll be going on another bike soon.  

Aloha,

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Re: [RBW] Re: wtb (if right size) silver salsa crossing guard

2013-03-03 Thread Seth Vidal
I thought about doing the dremel on an old chainring - I just need to find
one of the right size.

-sv



On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

> I've seen them around - cyclocross.com has them, and I reckon there are
> some other options.  An evening dremeling down an old, wornout chainring
> will yield a similar result! ;^)
>
> http://www.cyclocross.com/product/salsa-crossing-guard?
>
> and there's this:
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/chrg.htm
>
> - J
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2013 7:41:52 PM UTC-8, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>
>> I am looking for one of them in good shape. I had one a long while back,
>> sold the bike it was on. Went to look for another one and discovered salsa
>> doesn't make them.
>>
>> If you have one in your shed looking for a home, let me know.
>>
>> thanks,
>> -sv
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[RBW] Re: wtb (if right size) silver salsa crossing guard

2013-03-03 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
I've seen them around - cyclocross.com has them, and I reckon there are 
some other options.  An evening dremeling down an old, wornout chainring 
will yield a similar result! ;^)

http://www.cyclocross.com/product/salsa-crossing-guard?

and there's this:

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/chrg.htm

- J


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> I am looking for one of them in good shape. I had one a long while back, 
> sold the bike it was on. Went to look for another one and discovered salsa 
> doesn't make them.
>
> If you have one in your shed looking for a home, let me know.
>
> thanks,
> -sv
>
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[RBW] Re: yellow chris king headset

2013-03-03 Thread dean899
its sold thank you

On Mar 2, 8:26 am, dean899  wrote:
> the headset is 1-1/8
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 1, 2013 8:20:16 PM UTC-6, dean899 wrote:
>
> > hello I have a yellow king headset that has been on the bike for 3yrs
> > but I have changed the color of the bike so I need to sell $75
> > shipped. its a king so its still smooth and the finish is perfect.

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[RBW] Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen lapel pin UPDATE

2013-03-03 Thread Zoraster
I'm in for 2 or 3. I still have one from the first generation!

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[RBW] Re: 2 Top Tube Observations

2013-03-03 Thread samh
>To make a long story short we came home with Betty and Sam Hillborne 
frames that day.<

No!  That's too good of a story.  What an exciting day.


On Saturday, February 2, 2013 8:06:36 PM UTC-7, hangtownmatt wrote:
>
> Last January my wife and I happened to be in Berkeley and stopped by 
> Rivendell to take a look at the Betty Foy.  I wasn't interested in a new 
> bike, but needed something so I could go on a test ride with her.  At the 
> time I wouldn't even look at anything with 2TT's, so they set me up with a 
> 1TT 65cm Hilsen; hard to believe now there ever was such a thing.  We did 
> not have much time that day and left without a purchase.  The following 
> March we had another opportunity and set up an appointment for an extended 
> test ride.  I was right up front with Rivendell and told them that I, 
> personally, wasn't in the market, but wanted the opportunity to test ride 
> something; anything; their choice.  When we arrived I was given a 60cm 
> green 2TT Sam Hillborne.   We took off for an extensive 4 hour test ride.  
> I had never felt more comfortable on a bike.  The handling was superb.  I 
> felt as though I could do anything and/or ride anywhere on that bike.  To 
> make a long story short we came home with Betty and Sam Hillborne frames 
> that day.  I wasn't influenced by looks, price, the RMW Owners Bunch, 2TT's 
> or anything else.  I simply liked the fit and ride.  Since than I've put 
> almost 4,000 miles on the bike and have only ridden my former favorite 
> once.  I've also grown to appreciate the novelty of the 2TT.  Not sure what 
> it adds or detracts from, but I'm happy with the ride handling 
> characteristics and it is kinda clool having something a little different.
>
> Matt
>
>
>

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[RBW] WTT - Dura-Ace 9-speed DT shifters for bar end

2013-03-03 Thread Scott Loveless
Hi, folks.

I have a set of Dura-Ace 9-speed down tube shifters in good condition
that I'd like to trade for 9-speed bar end shifters.  Off list,
please.  Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Front Rack ideas

2013-03-03 Thread BenG
René, you are right - that is the current BRR on the front of the 
photo-lantis.  So the BRR will be my BFR.  Nice. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

2013-03-03 Thread Kellie Stapleton
Would like to have a pin too. Just keep following the thread?

On Friday, May 15, 2009 4:08:31 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
>
> Are you a member? 
>
> So here is the story...turning the "way-back" machine to about 1996, 
> some friends and I were sitting over coffee after a ride and started 
> to recount how many times we had done this. As it turned out, it was 
> apparent that not only had the vast majority of our rides (bike, 
> motorcycle, skateboard, snowboard...) started or ended over coffee, 
> but many of our good friends and riding partners were met at the cafes 
> we were frequenting. We had a pretty good network that spanned darn 
> near coast to coast. An "Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen" I 
> blurted out while simultaneously sketching out a logo on the 
> napkin 
>
> Fast forward to about 6 months ago, I was digging through some piles 
> of artwork looking for something, and stumbled on my original sketch. 
> All of the patches and hats we had originally done up were long 
> retired, lost, or given away...so I got in touch with some of the 
> original ACW's and told them I was going to mint some lapel 
> pins...everyone chipped in to beat the minimums. 
>
> Our whole thing was very tongue in cheek, but we wanted it to have an 
> "old money-secret society-unleash the hounds" type of feel to it. 
> Anyway after finding the iBob's / ROB's and meeting so many awesome 
> people and reading about the network that exists between the riders, I 
> thought it would be cool to expand the ACW. 
>
> It's all for fun and conversation, and really just a bit of decoration 
> for the bags, hats etc...but wanted to offer them up. I have @ 20-30 
> or so left of the lapel pins, but we can do more if interest is there. 
> We were also contemplating doing up some patches too? 
>
> $6/pc shipped to you. Trades for your "club" pins is good too. For 
> that matter no interesting trade would be turned down. Drop me line 
> hbc...@yahoo.com  or just paypal me there with your info! 
>
> Stay thirsty my friendsfor coffee. ;) 
>
> http://tinyurl.com/rx66y8

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[RBW] Re: FS:original wooly warm vest with single back pocket

2013-03-03 Thread dean899
its sold thank you

On Mar 2, 9:43 am, dean899  wrote:
> the original wooly warm vest with the single back pocket in excellent
> condition. no rips, no tear, all buttons are intact. 65 shipped.  size
> XL but fits more like a large.  Thanks

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread Edwin W
The ideal for me is what I am building my new (to me) Hillborne into:
Flat pedals so I can wear whatever shoes I am wearing. 
Fenders - longboard
Dyno: never going back. Lights always on front and back
Racks fore (Gamoh porteur (thanks for all the suggestions) with Wald 139 
basket) and aft (Public bikes rack with spring)
Alba bars (upright is all right)
8 speed on back 11-32
40x26 + chainguard with no front derailer- essentially a 1x8 with a bailout 
option. If I am using the 26 more than once a week (month? year?) I will 
consider a front derailer
38mm tires
Brooks saddle

So many of these are personal choices I know. But this is a customization 
group, isn't it??

Looking forward to finishing up in the next two weeks. 

Edwin in Nashville

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Re: [RBW] Front Rack ideas

2013-03-03 Thread BenG
I don't think it's a 2-strut.  Take a close look at the drop-bar Atlantis 
photo under Our Bikes at rivbike.com - that front rack is a pannier rack, 
with a triangulated deck; wide, closed frame on the sides; and a loop at 
the bottom.  And it's different from the rear one.

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[RBW] Re: Sugino crank question

2013-03-03 Thread Bill Lucas
Michael,

I had the chain suck with a number of RD2 cranksets.  I found that the 
index mark on the middle chainring needs to be at 1:00 when the arm is at 
12:00.  If the index is at 11:00, then shifting pins occasionally grab the 
chain.

Regards,
Bill Lucas


On Saturday, March 2, 2013 4:14:30 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I am in the process of rebuilding a RD2 crankset and discovered, actually 
> remembered, that it needs a shim between the middle ring and spider to 
> prevent chain suck when shifting to the inside ring.  I have had three of 
> these cranks over the years and all three had this problem.  Is this my bad 
> luck, or is this a widespread experience?  
>
> Michael
>

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[RBW] Re: OT - Family Biking

2013-03-03 Thread Savvas
Andy,

Nice blog article and nice thread. If this family cycling business is a 
possibke direction for Riv then I don't think the thread is OT. Here's a 
link to a flikr set I have been accumulating of 'family cycling' far away 
and long ago (for some anyway): 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/48163544@N02/8362805783/in/set-72157632477907968

May be of some interest and perhaps inspiration...

Looking back at these bikes they are rather 'Riv-ish' in their organic, 
make-do approach! And the people depicted were living car-free back in the 
'70s and '80s!

Savvas

On Saturday, March 2, 2013 2:49:27 AM UTC+10:30, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>
> This is somewhat OT but the pics are full of stuff from Riv... Aussie 
> Wool, Bosco Bars, Betty Foy, Cork Grips, and more. I wrote a guest post on 
> a friends blog about family biking and going car-free. Thought it might be 
> of interest to some folks on here. 
>
> Becoming A Biking 
> Family
>
> --Smitty
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Re: [RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread Joe Bernard
There's no way these old bones would hunch over that TT bike, but you gotta 
give the man credit for building such a wild steel bike, and winning races 
on it.
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 9:41:38 AM UTC-8, Dave Faller wrote:

> Good points, Jim. 
>
> I think it's just our nature to try to put things in little boxes. If we 
> want to define a "city bike", all we can really do is list features that 
> might best serve a particular individual in a particular city.  Would 
> you call a messenger's ratty old fixie NOT a city bike?  He probably 
> gets more use out of it than any commuter does on their sensible bike.   
> Is a bomb-proof, 26"-wheeled, fendered, fully-lit, racked, 5 speed bike 
> better?  Maybe, but for whom?  Personally, I don't need all that; 
> someone else may. 
>
> All of this, circling around to NAHBS, shows that we all like to dabble 
> in the "what if".  I went to NAHBS to two solid days last year; I saw a 
> huge variety of ideas.  Some of the stuff is artsy, look-what-I-can 
> build kind of stuff; other bikes were so well designed that it's hard to 
> believe anyone could ever come up with anything better. 
>
> When you come right down to it, who cares who wins what category at 
> NAHBS?  Everything that won something was exquisitely built, a lot of it 
> is innovative, and some of it was actually practical.  It's all 
> subjective, but I'm glad it's all being done.  The industry is blooming 
> with creativity! 
>
> Dave 
>
>
>
> On 3/3/2013 9:27 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: 
> > It's not clear (to me, anyway), what criteria are used by the judges at 
> NAHBS. That best-of-show time-trial bike isn't my cup of tea, but it seems 
> likely that its builder demonstrated considerable skill in building it. 
> There are a lot of skilled artisans exhibiting at NAHBS, and I imagine 
> picking a winner across a huge range of styles is difficult, not to mention 
> subjective. That said, there's no particular reason why a NAHBS-winning 
> bike has to have anything in common with a Rivendell. 
> > 
> > Attempts to categorize bikes drive me a little nuts. How can you define 
> a "city bike" by specifying particular wheel sizes or components or 
> accessories? My bikes have more to do with my tastes and preferences than 
> they do with the fact that I ride them in a city. Furthermore, I don't own 
> a bike that can't be ridden in any city. What you are really asking is 
> "what features characterize your stereotypical city bike?" Such stereotypes 
> reflect branding and marketing more than anything. 
> > 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Hunq and Hilsen on Ebay

2013-03-03 Thread James Warren
81 cm saddle height for me, 62 cm frame. I use the biggest tires it can take, 
55's. I love the ride. It does border on the biggest bike I should sensibly 
ride.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 3, 2013, at 3:41 AM, Eric Daume  wrote:

> OK, I have to say I'm tempted by the Hunq (extra diaga tube and all). But I'm 
> a little confused by Riv's sizing recommendations. I'm 6'3" with a 91cm 
> PBH/81 cm saddle height. I asked the seller, and he's almost my same size 
> (6'3", 92cm PBH). 
> 
> Riv says:
> 
> 58cm Hunqa: 87.5-93cm PBH (Saddle height 76-84cm, standover on biggest tire 
> is 87.5cm)
> 
> 62cm Hunqa: 91.5-100cm PBH (Saddle hight 82-90cm, standover on biggest tire 
> is 91.5cm) 
> 
> which would put me squarely on the 58. But then they go on to say:
> 
> 
> Basically, the Hunqapillar is easy to size.  Nine in ten riders can go by the 
> following:
> 
> Under 5' 6" : 48cm
> 5'6" to 5'8" : 51cm
> 5-9" to 5-11: 54cm
> Long-legged 5-10" to 6-1: 58cm
> Long legged 6ft to 6-4.4: 62cm
> 
> Which would put me on the 62. Any other data points out there?
> 
> I'm concerned about the standover on the 62cm. I have a concern on the 36" 
> standover with the 62cm. I mocked that up last night with my 62cm Crosscheck 
> resting on a few pieces of wood, and it was tight!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Eric Daume
> Dublin, OH
> 
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Mike Schiller  
> wrote:
> drats! both are too big for me  62 Hunq and 61 Hilsen  
> 
> Can't seem to find a used 59 Hilsen.
> 
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Hunqapillar-Frameset-62-cm-custom-color-with-Thomson-seat-post-/190806095965?pt=Mountain_Bikes&hash=item2c6cedf85d
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-/251238269825?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3a7ef7c381
> 
> 
> ~mike
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Re: [RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread Dave

Good points, Jim.

I think it's just our nature to try to put things in little boxes. If we 
want to define a "city bike", all we can really do is list features that 
might best serve a particular individual in a particular city.  Would 
you call a messenger's ratty old fixie NOT a city bike?  He probably 
gets more use out of it than any commuter does on their sensible bike.  
Is a bomb-proof, 26"-wheeled, fendered, fully-lit, racked, 5 speed bike 
better?  Maybe, but for whom?  Personally, I don't need all that; 
someone else may.


All of this, circling around to NAHBS, shows that we all like to dabble 
in the "what if".  I went to NAHBS to two solid days last year; I saw a 
huge variety of ideas.  Some of the stuff is artsy, look-what-I-can 
build kind of stuff; other bikes were so well designed that it's hard to 
believe anyone could ever come up with anything better.


When you come right down to it, who cares who wins what category at 
NAHBS?  Everything that won something was exquisitely built, a lot of it 
is innovative, and some of it was actually practical.  It's all 
subjective, but I'm glad it's all being done.  The industry is blooming 
with creativity!


Dave



On 3/3/2013 9:27 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:

It's not clear (to me, anyway), what criteria are used by the judges at NAHBS. 
That best-of-show time-trial bike isn't my cup of tea, but it seems likely that 
its builder demonstrated considerable skill in building it. There are a lot of 
skilled artisans exhibiting at NAHBS, and I imagine picking a winner across a 
huge range of styles is difficult, not to mention subjective. That said, 
there's no particular reason why a NAHBS-winning bike has to have anything in 
common with a Rivendell.

Attempts to categorize bikes drive me a little nuts. How can you define a "city bike" by 
specifying particular wheel sizes or components or accessories? My bikes have more to do with my 
tastes and preferences than they do with the fact that I ride them in a city. Furthermore, I don't 
own a bike that can't be ridden in any city. What you are really asking is "what features 
characterize your stereotypical city bike?" Such stereotypes reflect branding and marketing 
more than anything.



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Re: [RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
It's not clear (to me, anyway), what criteria are used by the judges at NAHBS. 
That best-of-show time-trial bike isn't my cup of tea, but it seems likely that 
its builder demonstrated considerable skill in building it. There are a lot of 
skilled artisans exhibiting at NAHBS, and I imagine picking a winner across a 
huge range of styles is difficult, not to mention subjective. That said, 
there's no particular reason why a NAHBS-winning bike has to have anything in 
common with a Rivendell.

Attempts to categorize bikes drive me a little nuts. How can you define a "city 
bike" by specifying particular wheel sizes or components or accessories? My 
bikes have more to do with my tastes and preferences than they do with the fact 
that I ride them in a city. Furthermore, I don't own a bike that can't be 
ridden in any city. What you are really asking is "what features characterize 
your stereotypical city bike?" Such stereotypes reflect branding and marketing 
more than anything.

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[RBW] Re: East Bay Mixed Terrain Ride 3/3 9:30ish

2013-03-03 Thread William
I'm pulling into Fremont BART now

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[RBW] Re: ISO spd-to-clip-and-strap pedal converters

2013-03-03 Thread Manuel Acosta

I've used these on my old college road bike.
They work okay. A tad hard to flip into. There isn't much of a tap for the 
foot to flip into the cage. The screws have a tendency of unscrewing if you 
don't lock tight them. I found myself using these more then my clip-in. So 
I ditched the whole system together and just went flat pedal. 

My two cents
-manny
On Saturday, March 2, 2013 10:07:38 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I am looking for something like these with clips. The Decksters would 
> be a second best alternative. 
>
> Anyone? 
>
> I am also at a loss for their proper name, which would aid better 
> Google searching. 
>
> Thanks. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
Tourist=David, Fiend=Jim

Trails are in Inland CA, mostly Redlands/Yucaipa/Loma Linda. I get out now
and then though.

Shoe pile photo, that's funny! Cleaning out closets from three growing
kids!!!


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:53 AM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Cyclotourist ("Jim"?): nice photo set (demand story behind the shoe pile).
>
> Where in CA are those dirt trails?
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:45 AM, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
> > Fenders in LA, too.
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3528587158/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Matthew J  wrote:
> >>
> >> 700c 32 to about 38' Lower trail with poteur style rack, Paul center
> pull
> >> or mini-v brakes, single speed or 1x at most 6' Jitensha or similar
> bars,
> >> dyno hub with headlight.  Unless I am in LA, fenders.
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[RBW] Re: Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread RJM
Wow, I just don't get it. I really don't. 
 
I guess to win stuff like this you have to produce something that looks 
different enough, flashy enough, and tourturous enough to win whatever 
"event" you are trying to win at.
 

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 10:22:36 AM UTC-6, Big Paulie wrote:

> I thought Grant's critiscm of the NAHB was a little harsh...then I saw 
> the "winning" bike! 
>
>
> http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/03/gallery/gallery-rob-englishs-tt-mk2_276499
>  
>
> May be the most unridable looking bike I've ever seen... 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO spd-to-clip-and-strap pedal converters

2013-03-03 Thread jim
I'm pretty sure the shop I work Saturdays at has some of these. I can check 
if you like.
(Budget Bicycles in Madison, WI)


On Saturday, March 2, 2013 5:33:44 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I remember this now; thanks for the reminder. Would still like to find 
> some of the old triathlete converters, but these look easy to make. 
> (And there is a newish bike shop nearby, focused on triathletes -- 
> must check with them.) 
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Jim Mather > 
> wrote: 
> > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:27 PM, PATRICK MOORE 
> > > 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Well, I use Keos on the gofast and on the (I'm working on it, I'm 
> >> working on it, OK?) still in process Ram. 
> >> 
> >> $35??? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you think that's too expensive, make your own like Phillip did: 
> > http://www.biketinker.com/skatedeck-pedals/ 
> > 
> > You can easily screw clips to them if you want. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread Robert F. Harrison
I agree that a Quickbeam is a great commuter. I have both a QB and a Hunqa
and the QB is my commuter of choice unless I'm actually hauling stuff
around in which case the Hunqa can't be topped. I'm glad not to have to
worry about shifting in traffic when I really should be paying attention to
something else. I don't have a lot of hills on my current commute which is
actually ridiculously short (though I add several miles to my return
journey just because), but I've never had any real trouble climbing with my
QB, it just takes a different approach than with a bike with lower
available gearing.

Aloha,

Bob


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:00 AM, ascpgh  wrote:

> I agree a Quickbeam is a fabulous commuter, in the right circumstance. I
> have to have some gears in my terrain, the varying weather, the seasonal
> ebb and flow of my riding stamina and the physical exhaustion of the day
> (or night) makes them a must. Not all of them get used by a long shot, but
> this is also the bike I ride on the roughest surfaces, going back to the
> rationalization of its purchase and selling off the hard tail MTB and
> permanently loaning my too-small XO-2 that I had been using before.
>
> My experience with the mech disk brakes is different than Jeremy's. For
> what I get in all-weather function, the wear issue is easily within
> expectations. Three sets of pads over seven years daily use. No more frozen
> rim brake pads when trying to stop the second time (anyone else had that
> thrill?). Maybe it's just my set up and use, but I have few complaints
> given that the bike was an experiment for disk brakes to start with.
>
> Last year at a local metric century which took every opportunity connect
> lowest to highest points in the three rivers, my friend and I were on the
> highest elevation facing a four mile downhill in absolutely pouring rain,
> he on his open wheel Richard Sachs CX with cantilevers, me on my fendered
> Rambouillet with Shimano double pivot side pulls. I was stunned by the
> comparison to my commuter's disks in such conditions. On a workday I have
> no choice if pouring such as that, I just go and never consider the higher
> weight of that bike as loaded or my expectation of the brakes will both
> modulate and stop. My calipers under those conditions were near
> uselessness, my friend wore through his front and back salmon pads in that
> one paved road descent despite no actual signs of useful friction either.
>
> An ideal commuting bike is very much a product of the conditions in which
> it will be used and the shape that I am in when I ride it, expected
> variances in both being anticipated. Unlikely that anyone could dictate the
> design of a commuter precisely to the expectation of everyone. If it is
> your daily driver then you have a lot of time while riding to be thinking
> about what would be better about it. Most product managers would shrink
> from any findings from a focus group of n=1. Beauty of this list is that
> number is a bit larger but still of some cohesiveness, and even this
> audience would not be impressive to the MBA-types that get involved in
> product development once the sums at stake are beyond those of the
> founders/craftsmen/zealot visionaries.
>
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[RBW] Re: Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread Big Paulie
I thought Grant's critiscm of the NAHB was a little harsh...then I saw
the "winning" bike!

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/03/gallery/gallery-rob-englishs-tt-mk2_276499

May be the most unridable looking bike I've ever seen...


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Re: [RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Cyclotourist ("Jim"?): nice photo set (demand story behind the shoe pile).

Where in CA are those dirt trails?

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:45 AM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Fenders in LA, too.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3528587158/
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Matthew J  wrote:
>>
>> 700c 32 to about 38' Lower trail with poteur style rack, Paul center pull
>> or mini-v brakes, single speed or 1x at most 6' Jitensha or similar bars,
>> dyno hub with headlight.  Unless I am in LA, fenders.
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Re: [RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This has become a very interesting thread. I'm surprised at how many
choose single speeds, fixies, or at least prefer simple drivetrains.
Me, I chose fixed simply because I love riding fixed -- I had the '03
Curt custom converted locally to a fixed drivetrain when I converted
it from 1X10 gofast to daily commuter.

Several said that choice depends on circumstances (as well as
preferences); true, too. The Novara Fusion that I bought for a friend
late last year is actually a very decent commuting bike (8 speed hub,
dyno hub + front and rear lights, disks, fenders, chain guard, rack,
bell, belted tires and thorn-proof tubes, all this included, but no
damned suspension or other unecessary gimmicks) but, even if one
prefered this genre, trying to schlep such a thing up several miles of
hill, or against a stiff headwind for several miles, would (IMO)
quickly drive one to despair. (I put ~12 miles on it myself, longest
ride 10 miles).

That said, for short, flat, slow cruising with a lot of stop and
start, I can see that a fully dressed Yves or Betty or Sam with
Albatrosses might be nice -- after all, there is no reason why even
short distance utility bikes can't be very nice ones. And I realize
that some on this list ride such bikes far longer distances than I do
mine.

Keep the opinions coming! We should start a photo library of Rivendell
commuters. (A few years ago on the Boblist I set up a library of
beaters if anyone wants to see it. Some interesting bikes and a huge
variety.)

Next question, class: what is the worst commuter that you've ridden?

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Matthew J  wrote:
> 700c 32 to about 38' Lower trail with poteur style rack, Paul center pull or 
> mini-v brakes, single speed or 1x at most 6' Jitensha or similar bars, dyno 
> hub with headlight.  Unless I am in LA, fenders.
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Re: [RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread cyclotourist
Fenders in LA, too.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3528587158/




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[RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread Matthew J
700c 32 to about 38' Lower trail with poteur style rack, Paul center pull or 
mini-v brakes, single speed or 1x at most 6' Jitensha or similar bars, dyno hub 
with headlight.  Unless I am in LA, fenders.

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Re: [RBW] Hunq and Hilsen on Ebay

2013-03-03 Thread Doug M
I'm 6-3 with a PBH of 92 and my 62 Hunq fits perfectly for my tastes. With 
standard Schwalbe Marathons the measured stand over is 90 cm.  I have at least 
an inch of stand over clearance wearing shoes.  Some riders want more 
clearance, and others who might want to use their Hunq as a rough stuff 
mountain/single track bike with knobby tires want a smaller frame as well. RBW 
typically advises to go with a larger frame if in doubt.  I haven't regretted 
that advice for a moment.  I'd totally go for the custom blue ebay Hunq if I 
didn't have one already.  Too bad that Hilsen wasn't a 65...

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Re: [RBW] Hunq and Hilsen on Ebay

2013-03-03 Thread Eric Daume
Not me.  I'm not too disappointed, honestly.  If it were a 58 in that color
and condition, I probably would have hesitated less
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Re: [RBW] Hunq and Hilsen on Ebay

2013-03-03 Thread Tom Harrop
Looks like it's sold, did you get it?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread ascpgh
I agree a Quickbeam is a fabulous commuter, in the right circumstance. I have 
to have some gears in my terrain, the varying weather, the seasonal ebb and 
flow of my riding stamina and the physical exhaustion of the day (or night) 
makes them a must. Not all of them get used by a long shot, but this is also 
the bike I ride on the roughest surfaces, going back to the rationalization of 
its purchase and selling off the hard tail MTB and permanently loaning my 
too-small XO-2 that I had been using before.
 
My experience with the mech disk brakes is different than Jeremy's. For what I 
get in all-weather function, the wear issue is easily within expectations. 
Three sets of pads over seven years daily use. No more frozen rim brake pads 
when trying to stop the second time (anyone else had that thrill?). Maybe it's 
just my set up and use, but I have few complaints given that the bike was an 
experiment for disk brakes to start with.
 
Last year at a local metric century which took every opportunity connect lowest 
to highest points in the three rivers, my friend and I were on the highest 
elevation facing a four mile downhill in absolutely pouring rain, he on his 
open wheel Richard Sachs CX with cantilevers, me on my fendered Rambouillet 
with Shimano double pivot side pulls. I was stunned by the comparison to my 
commuter's disks in such conditions. On a workday I have no choice if pouring 
such as that, I just go and never consider the higher weight of that bike as 
loaded or my expectation of the brakes will both modulate and stop. My calipers 
under those conditions were near uselessness, my friend wore through his front 
and back salmon pads in that one paved road descent despite no actual signs of 
useful friction either. 

An ideal commuting bike is very much a product of the conditions in which it 
will be used and the shape that I am in when I ride it, expected variances in 
both being anticipated. Unlikely that anyone could dictate the design of a 
commuter precisely to the expectation of everyone. If it is your daily driver 
then you have a lot of time while riding to be thinking about what would be 
better about it. Most product managers would shrink from any findings from a 
focus group of n=1. Beauty of this list is that number is a bit larger but 
still of some cohesiveness, and even this audience would not be impressive to 
the MBA-types that get involved in product development once the sums at stake 
are beyond those of the founders/craftsmen/zealot visionaries. 

Andy Cheatham
Pttsburgh

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Re: [RBW] Hunq and Hilsen on Ebay

2013-03-03 Thread Tom Harrop
I guess it depends on what you want to do with it. Maybe the lack of 
standover isn't an issue, e.g. if you want it for touring. I have a 68 cm 
Bombadil with barely any clearance and it doesn't matter in the slightest 
for touring, commuting etc., but I've been ogling that 62 cm Hunq as a 
dedicated MTB with loads of standover (PBH 101 cm). Having said that, I 
think you'd better buy it to keep me on the straight and narrow...

What do people think of the asking price ($1400)? I thought maybe it was a 
little high.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest BLUG post (2/28)

2013-03-03 Thread Eric Platt
While I haven't used hydraulics, will agree with Jim they seem the most
maintenance free and probably the bestest choice for winter riding in
places like Minnesota.  Tried cable pull discs one winter and it was not a
good thing.  Snow/slush gummed up the caliper right quick. (Might have been
bad luck on my part.  Others have had no problems.)

My city bike has cantilevers.  Never had a problem of adjustment in
winter.  Abrading through a rim, yes.  Diving under, no.  Pauls are extra
nice due to the sealed springs.

For other city biking likes - flat bars, but not as swept back as the
Albatross or Bosco.  Want some weight on the front wheel for control on ice
and snow.  Fenders, yes. Aluminum for extra width, but think plastic might
survive longer being banged around.  Dyno hub, but willing to forego with
the newest recharables.  Tires - 38 to 40 are fine. Gears -  my city bike
is a 1x9.  Definitely rear rack (my preference in handling and setup) and
at least one Blackburn bottle cage that can hold a coffee thermos.

All that said, my SimpleOne was used a lot last year as a city bike and it
has drop bars, no dynohub, no full size rear rack (swap saddlebags with the
Nitto grip) and only one gear.   Great bike, but don't end up carrying as
much on it and usually avoid the steepest climbs in St. Paul.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery <
thill@gmail.com> wrote:

> I disagree with the person who said that maintenance of hydraulic brakes
> is expensive and/or difficult. I have three bikes that have Avid hydraulic
> disc brakes, from the cheapest to upper-midrange models. In several years
> of all-conditions riding and intermittent storage, I've not had to bleed
> any of them. They are the closest thing to a no-maintenance brake that I've
> ever used.
>
> I have bled hydraulic brakes for others. It only takes a few minutes.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sugino crank question

2013-03-03 Thread Michael Hechmer
Back from the bike shop, where I purchased a set of 0.6mm shims ( 75 cents 
a piece!).  My past experience has been that this prevents the chain from 
being sucked down between the middle and inner rings.  My favorite mechanic 
suggested a trick that should help with the gymnastics of holding all the 
parts together during assembly.  Put a bit of greese on the spacer to hold 
it in place.

I run a 9 speed chain with a 9 speed cassette.  I have never seen this 
crank listed as 8 speed only.

Michael


On Saturday, March 2, 2013 12:53:26 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Hah! Is chainsuck a design problem then? I've suffered it in spades on 
> the Fargo with its XD2 and, after the last episode where it jammed so 
> hard it permanently twisted the chain and bent the outer ring 30*, I 
> had one of those catch-chain devices installed. I've not had this 
> problem, to this extent,with any other double or triple. (The XD2 has 
> a 38 in middle and the 24 granny.) 
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:23 AM, dougP > 
> wrote: 
> > Michael: 
> > 
> > I can't answer your question but it does raise one on my part.  I have 
> the 
> > Rivendell standard issue triple crank (XD2?) and have often been 
> bothered by 
> > chain suck on the middle-to-granny shift.  Careful, well planned shifts 
> work 
> > fine.  It's the panicky, sloppy ones where I don't ease up enough on the 
> > pedals that create the problem. 
> > 
> > Does simply adding some shims at the middle ring solve this?  If so, 
> what 
> > thickness?  My crank did not come with shims so I never thought about 
> them. 
> > 
> > dougP 
> > 
> > On Saturday, March 2, 2013 4:14:30 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I am in the process of rebuilding a RD2 crankset and discovered, 
> actually 
> >> remembered, that it needs a shim between the middle ring and spider to 
> >> prevent chain suck when shifting to the inside ring.  I have had three 
> of 
> >> these cranks over the years and all three had this problem.  Is this my 
> bad 
> >> luck, or is this a widespread experience? 
> >> 
> >> Michael 
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Re: [RBW] Hunq and Hilsen on Ebay

2013-03-03 Thread Eric Daume
OK, I have to say, I just remeasured my PBH using the "pull it up until you
see stars method" (and a framing square), and came out to 93cm.

Eric

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Eric Daume  wrote:

> OK, I have to say I'm tempted by the Hunq (extra diaga tube and all). But
> I'm a little confused by Riv's sizing recommendations. I'm 6'3" with a 91cm
> PBH/81 cm saddle height. I asked the seller, and he's almost my same size
> (6'3", 92cm PBH).
>
> Riv says:
>
> *58cm Hunqa: 87.5-93cm PBH (Saddle height 76-84cm, standover on biggest
> tire is 87.5cm)
>
> **62cm Hunqa: 91.5-100cm PBH (Saddle hight 82-90cm, standover on biggest
> tire is 91.5cm)
>
> *which would put me squarely on the 58. But then they go on to say:
>
>
> *Basically, the Hunqapillar is easy to size.  Nine in ten riders can go
> by the following:*
>
> *Under 5' 6" : 48cm
> **5'6" to 5'8" : 51cm**
> 5-9" to 5-11: 54cm
> Long-legged 5-10" to 6-1: 58cm
> **Long legged 6ft to 6-4.4: 62cm
> *
> Which would put me on the 62. Any other data points out there?
>
> I'm concerned about the standover on the 62cm. I have a concern on the 36"
> standover with the 62cm. I mocked that up last night with my 62cm
> Crosscheck resting on a few pieces of wood, and it was tight!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric Daume
> Dublin, OH
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Mike Schiller 
> wrote:
>
>> drats! both are too big for me  62 Hunq and 61 Hilsen
>>
>> Can't seem to find a used 59 Hilsen.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Hunqapillar-Frameset-62-cm-custom-color-with-Thomson-seat-post-/190806095965?pt=Mountain_Bikes&hash=item2c6cedf85d
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-/251238269825?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3a7ef7c381
>> *
>> *
>> *
>> *
>> *~mike*
>>  *
>> *
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Re: [RBW] Hunq and Hilsen on Ebay

2013-03-03 Thread Eric Daume
OK, I have to say I'm tempted by the Hunq (extra diaga tube and all). But
I'm a little confused by Riv's sizing recommendations. I'm 6'3" with a 91cm
PBH/81 cm saddle height. I asked the seller, and he's almost my same size
(6'3", 92cm PBH).

Riv says:

*58cm Hunqa: 87.5-93cm PBH (Saddle height 76-84cm, standover on biggest
tire is 87.5cm)

**62cm Hunqa: 91.5-100cm PBH (Saddle hight 82-90cm, standover on biggest
tire is 91.5cm)

*which would put me squarely on the 58. But then they go on to say:


*Basically, the Hunqapillar is easy to size.  Nine in ten riders can go by
the following:*

*Under 5' 6" : 48cm
**5'6" to 5'8" : 51cm**
5-9" to 5-11: 54cm
Long-legged 5-10" to 6-1: 58cm
**Long legged 6ft to 6-4.4: 62cm
*
Which would put me on the 62. Any other data points out there?

I'm concerned about the standover on the 62cm. I have a concern on the 36"
standover with the 62cm. I mocked that up last night with my 62cm
Crosscheck resting on a few pieces of wood, and it was tight!

Thanks,

Eric Daume
Dublin, OH

On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 6:44 PM, Mike Schiller wrote:

> drats! both are too big for me  62 Hunq and 61 Hilsen
>
> Can't seem to find a used 59 Hilsen.
>
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Hunqapillar-Frameset-62-cm-custom-color-with-Thomson-seat-post-/190806095965?pt=Mountain_Bikes&hash=item2c6cedf85d
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-/251238269825?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3a7ef7c381
> *
> *
> *
> *
> *~mike*
> *
> *
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