Hope it works out for you. Haven you considered contacting Rivet? Both
Indy and Diablo are narrower than B/C-17, and Debra charges $25 for a demo
loaner.
On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 10:48:47 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
Thanks for your reply. The C-17 seems a little narrower. I have
I would say the 42T chainring is for cruising, and the 30T chainring is for
climbing and off-pavement riding. My normal cruising is 70 or 75 gears,
though I may start up as low as a 50-inch gear.
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 12:06:27 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:
Where are you supposed to
I have a Shimano FD built to the same design, and it seems to have
identical lever arm lengths for the top- and bottom-pull configurations, so
the amount of cable pull required *should* be the same. Can you be more
specific about the trouble you're having? I took that one off my Sam
Hillborne
Braze-ons is what I meant. VR software is contextual, usually it gets it
right. I should proof-read before hitting the post button.
I do like that Roadeo. Showed to my son. We're about to start a bike
project. He's got an early 80s Trek 613 that's about to get a same-period
Shimano 600 group,
I have a 46/30x36/12 setup. I don't think about it. I use whatever feels
comfortable wherever I might be?
Marc
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:06:27 AM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:
Where are you supposed to cruise on your front rings and rear cassette if
you have a cc? In the big ring while in
Would anyone with a 56cm Atlantis be willing to grab a tape measure and
determine the overall wheelbase? I've spent a very limited amount of time
riding the old 1992 Rockhopper I'm working on as a project but I had so
much fun on it that I'm committed to a long-term 26 high quality bike.
Finally got around to weighing my 60cm Sam.
36 pounds
Build
Sugino 26/40/bashguard crank
Sneaker pedals
Mark's front rack
Wald medium basket with bungee net and a spare irish strap
Longboard fenders
Brooks B17
Nitto seatpost
Nitto stem (pearl?) 11cm
Albas
CR18 rims with 36 spokes
Novatech cheapie
I'm using 44/30 chainrings and a 12-27 10-speed cassette on my 650B bike,
giving me a 96 gear-inch high and a 29 gear-inch low. I spend most of the
time in the 44 ring (cruising while in the middle of the cassette gets me
around 70 gear-inches), while the smaller ring is used for climbing. This
My 56 Atlantis has a wheelbase of 104cm according to my tape. However, this
measurement was taken after only one cup of coffee.
Erl
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Thanks!! That sounds about right and is in the ballpark of what I am used
to and what I was hoping for.
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:57:41 AM UTC-5, WETH wrote:
My 56 Atlantis has a wheelbase of 104cm according to my tape. However,
this measurement was taken after only one cup of
My early model 56cm Atlantis wheelbase measures just shy of 103cm, but that
was measured after two big mugs of coffee so maybe I'm a little shaky :-)
I've heard that the newer Atlantis has longer chainstays so that might
account for the difference from WETH's number.
My 2006 model 56cm LHT
A rodeo with bars like this is a town bike.
Maybe for some. Certainly not for all. While more common overseas than in
the U.S., there are many people more than happy doing their long distance
pleasure riding with flat bars.
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Oh, and they wouldn't need zero interest loans if they weren't the only
federal agency required to fully fund an employee's pension when they are
hired. Find me a company that can operate in the black
under that condition.
Plus Congress continues to require the USPS to deliver first class
Two excellent reasons why government has no business being in business.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:17:48 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:
Oh, and they wouldn't need zero interest loans if they weren't the only
federal agency required to fully fund an employee's pension
Absolutely. It's analogous to so many RBWers use Alba bars for off-roading.
I think a lot of people would pigeonhole the Albas as for town bike or
porteur. To each their own!
KJ
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:14:20 AM UTC-4, Matthew J wrote:
A rodeo with bars like this is a town bike.
Well, there is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_Clause
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Two excellent reasons why government has no business being in business.
With
Seems like a good time to note that in 19,500 miles I have worn out three
Schwalbe Marathons (not three sets, three tires -- the fourth tire is still
in service). And it's not that the tires weren't still riding fine, I just
got a little nervous when the undertread started peaking through. If I
I'm a bit confused. Are you routing the fd cable along the top tube and then
down the seat tube? That is the way a top pull fd is designed to work. Pictures
look like you have standard down tube cable route for your fd.
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What Marc Irwin said.
I'm using 46/30 with 11/28 (8s) and I find I spend a lot of time now in the
middle gears. I tend to front shift at stop lights now: I shift 46-30 in
one of 2 or 3 middle gears, then shift 30-46 once I start to roll.
This is a relatively new system for me (I
Interesting. I thought the Atlantis chainstays had always been 44cm
(current spec according to Riv website). From 1995 to pretty much 2012, I
rode bikes with 43cm chainstays and about a 1030mm wheelbase so that's what
I'm used to. I've got a couple of longer bikes now and they are smooth
Oh that pesky Constitution!
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:46:05 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, there is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_Clause
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Deacon Patrick
Which provides the power and authority but not a mandate. History provides
the precedent. That neither makes it right or wrong.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:46:05 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, there is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_Clause
I always avoid big-big/small-small combos with all cranksets, but don't
worry about any other variation on a double crank. It's the triples that
serve up more severe chain angles if you, say, use the big ring with the 3
biggest rear cogs. If you sight down the bike at the relationship of
Granted, most of us don't use snail mail much anymore. But the nice thing
about the USPS is that *nearly *everyone has a physical address, and
sending stuff to them via the USPS is not expensive. Imagine we abolishe
or privatize the USPS. Can you imagine what the per-letter rate to, oh, I
The flipside to government involvement is reasonableness.
Long ago, I swore off UPS and FedEx when bringing items into Canada from
the US, in favour of USPS/Canada Post. UPS and FedEx each charge wild
surcharges, on top of already wild shipping fees upfront, in the form of
brokerage fees,
Can't shift into granny, can't shift into big ring. The derailer does not
seem to move to the limits that i set with the screws. I took the chain
off to double check the limit screws and the settings looked fine.
On Aug 14, 2014 4:33 AM, John Stowe stowe.j...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a Shimano
Trying now not to hijack, but what you're describing Andrew fits my
half-steps-plus-escape Cyclotouriste triple to a tee. I can leave the rear
on 16T cog and my 46/42/26T chainrings gives me 76, 70 and 54. Start
off on the tiny ring, and cruise rolling hills on the half steps.
On Thursday,
Hey Jim,
What's the stand-over height on your bike? How about your saddle height?
KJ
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 12:56:50 AM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:
Well Grant would probably not approve of the amount of seat post showing,
but, it seems to work pretty good for me, and I am comfortable
That’s a beautiful bike!
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Looking for a 61 cm Atlantis
I have been toying with the idea of
Don't neglect the influence of tire size. Chubby 700c tires can be +/-28
in dia, and skinny 26 actually less than 26.
You mention a 9 speed cassette with an 11 smallest cog. If it's the
popular 11-34, your choice of 30/42 chainrings is sound. For general
purpose riding unloaded, having a
Appropriate, then, that I'm using a Cyclotourist-style crank (Sugino PX)
and TA Rings!
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 11:45:55 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
Trying now not to hijack, but what you're describing Andrew fits my
half-steps-plus-escape Cyclotouriste triple to a tee. I can leave the rear
Leaving that Marathon Supreme on the front was out of character. Normally
when the rear wears out, I put a new tire on the front and move the old
front to the rear. Rough guess is that rears wear twice as fast as fronts,
so normally the front is in better shape. Rear flats, while a nuisance,
My wife I toured in central Europe last fall for a month. The only drop
bars we saw were on racing bikes, ridden by people in full racing outfits,
carrying nothing. Flat bars with bar end extensions were most common,
followed by trekking bars (usually on a touring bike with chubby tires
It can be done.
http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/?o=Shpage_id=74673v=dL
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On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 9:14:01 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
I don't know about sea water or Atlantis across her intestines but now she
wants to tour!
Any Ultra spaced 7 speed freewheels?
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I'm very fond of a Wide-Low arrangement and run a 40-26 chainring with a
12-27. I have also experimented with 13-28 and 11-25 and have found the
12-27 is a good fit for me (over 40 crowd), the terrain I ride (rolling
gravel roads of the Midwest) and the people I ride with (non racers). I'm
This thread might be more accurately titled with something along the lines
of for those who like to get big mileage out of their tires
I and other Randonneurs/Randonneuses ride big mileage on our Rivendells,
but I personally am an adherent of the Jan Heine school of thought when it
comes to tires
Moustache bars are spoken for.
Noodles and stem are still available.
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The rude paraphrase to that Jan Heine sentiment would be something like:
Those tires may be miserable to ride on, but at least they last a really
long time, so the misery is extended.
The far end of the stout tire spectrum is solid rubber tires. Solid
rubber tires may last for 30,000 miles or
Standover is roughly 33.75 with Loup Loup tires, measured just forward of
the bottom bracket.
Saddle height from BB spindle is roughly 34 measured along ST axis. From
the floor about 43.
I added some photos to the album in the original post with the Soma side by
side with my Rivendell. Clearly
I agree that tires are personal to each rider, I was just trying to point
out that not all people who ride a lot of miles like to ride tires like the
Marathon.
In my case for my uses, the Pari-Motos are too fragile, the Compass tires
are about right, and the Marathons are too heavy. But to each
Totally. I have uberstout Force Field Fatty Rumpkins on my touring bike,
and paper thin ubersupple Pari-Motos on the brevet bike, and lots of things
in-between on the rest of the fleet.
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:59:32 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
I agree that tires are personal to
Measure your chainline. You probably have a roadish chainline, which may
explain why your mountain front der can't drop you to the granny. That's
problem #1
If you can't pull up to the big ring either, even with the limits all the
way out, then that indicates your shifters don't pull enough
Was at CPBikes today and saw a big sized blue Ram on the repair stand! Rivish
build with beaus aged honey saddle. Was it yours?
This was my first time seeing a real Ram outside of pics.
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On 08/14/2014 01:48 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
The rude paraphrase to that Jan Heine sentiment would be something like:
Those tires may be miserable to ride on, but at least they last a
really long time, so the misery is extended.
The far end of the stout tire spectrum is solid rubber tires.
The last sentence of Steve p's post leaves me on what I like to think of as
joke overload...
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Or, Bill, you could sell all those superseded tires (the grass is always
greener) to people who don’t share your compulsive search for the perfect tire.
;-) But I won’t be a buyer – I’m on the same quest.
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Forgot to say that the Topeak is as new.
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
1. Green Longflap, drawstring model, moderate signs of use, the dowel is a
replacement; $85 shipped Priority CONUS. (Will ship elsewhere for actual
shipping cost.)
2. Large
I always set up my drivetrains so that the cruising cruising cogs are as
much as possible lined up with the cruising ring. Since I also like close
steps in the cruising range, I sometimes give up high and low gears to
achieve this, but that's fine with me. When my cruising gear was the outer
46 of
I think Patrick nailed it - good chainline is good for a lot of reasons -
one of them is just peace and quiet.
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:26:01 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
I always set up my drivetrains so that the cruising cruising cogs are as
much as possible lined up with the
Agreed on USPS - I love them. I especially love walking my dog there in the
middle of the night to do my post office errands.
The crazy pension funding stipulation seems designed expressly to undermine
the Post Office in order to privatize it. It's is a federal branch,
established in the
On 08/14/2014 03:46 PM, Philip Williamson wrote:
Agreed on USPS - I love them. I especially love walking my dog there
in the middle of the night to do my post office errands.
The crazy pension funding stipulation seems designed expressly to
undermine the Post Office in order to privatize it.
;-) I got hooked on that as well, and even one better - collecting
handlebars while touring in Europe!!!
I think it was in Hungary (or the Netherlands???) where I first
stumbled into a bike-coop years ago, and noticed that the bucket o'
bars was just a bit juicier than what we have domestically.
Look! microshift makes a few 9 and 8 speed silver front derailers:
http://www.microshift.com.tw/road_fd.html
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They even make some that are self-reproducing! Obviously, trible is a
misspelling of tribbel.
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 4:55:45 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:
Look! microshift makes a few 9 and 8 speed silver front derailers:
http://www.microshift.com.tw/road_fd.html
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...including some for Trible chainrings. That's nice.
I gotta get me one of those green ones. That's HOT
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 1:55:45 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
Look! microshift makes a few 9 and 8 speed silver front derailers:
http://www.microshift.com.tw/road_fd.html
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Well my Basil (Construction Pumpkin with a cat head ...I'm exagerrating a
little) would seriously compromise my bikes' handling:) Anyway, she's a
little beauty
On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 5:07:47 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
she actually did when she was a kitten - in fact, we took her
Ha! We posted at the same time. Maybe they meant Tribal
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:00:34 PM UTC-7, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
wrote:
They even make some that are self-reproducing! Obviously, trible is a
misspelling of tribbel.
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 4:55:45 PM UTC-4, lungimsam
I and other Randonneurs/Randonneuses ride big mileage on our Rivendells,
but I personally am an adherent of the Jan Heine school of thought when it
comes to tires and I don't think I would like to ride a Schwalbe Marathon.
I've used Paselas, JB greens blues, T-serves, Marathon Supremes
Oh my do I love this thread. The beginning was painful bit the ending is
insane. You all are good community. Reason number 247 I love riding Rivendells.
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dougP, what's that black strap attached to the dog's neck?
I'd think it was a collar, but it is pulled up so tight around the head.
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On 08/14/2014 05:02 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
...including some for Trible chainrings. That's nice.
You mean these guys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHTs7zzharg
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I didn't lose any fillings due to their lack of subtleness. Subtle tires
are okay and certainly have their place but there's not a deal breaker for
a good time randonneuring (pun intended).
--mike
Oops. Bad typo there. Replace subtleness and subtle with suppleness and
supple
The custom one is my favourite.Think I might have asked you a long time ago
what colours yours is, and I think you told me yellow. My 2001 Riv Road is
Harvest Gold. In certain light it looks like a dark yellow,other light more
of a greeny mustardy colour like curry powder . One day I'll weigh
I think your derailleur should work without issue, but if it's not shifting
at all then there must be some issue with the set up. I did notice a couple
things...
I see your downtube cable guides are mounted backwards/upside down. The
little bullet adjusters hang down from the stops. They just
I haven't been following this list too closely over the past year so
forgive me if this topic is redundant. I'm thinking of giving the
Albastache bars a try on my LHT. I have plenty of steerer tube so there's
no issue with getting the bars high enough. What I am curious about is stem
length. I
On one bike I am playing with 46/28 and the Riv-spec'd 8 speed IRD 12-34.
According to Sheldon that gives a range of 99.7 - 35.2 on the big ring. I
am treating the small ring as a bailout - which comes in handy in Marin for
the over 50 crowd. No issues on either ring across the cassette. Which is
The Albastache sweeps forward less and back more than the moustache. I
would recommend the same stem you are using now and see how it feels and go
from there.
-Dave
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 5:50:00 PM UTC-4, Mike wrote:
I haven't been following this list too closely over the past year
Congratulations!
On Aug 14, 2014 11:52 AM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote:
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No clue. The picture is from the crazyguy website.
dougP
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:13:46 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
dougP, what's that black strap attached to the dog's neck?
I'd think it was a collar, but it is pulled up so tight around the head.
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Liesl might have started a thread for posts and post fragments that you
only see here. I submit this fragment:
they seem to ride lighter than the avoirdupois would suggest
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Agreedit's aging beautifully. My early 70's Peugeot PX-10 (V3.0) bought
in 1981 is still a favourite bike. Not as practical as yours; it's a
single-speed. Frame,paint (some scrapes and scratches), seatpost and
Ideale 90 saddle is original. Other stuff is a Japanese/Italian mix of
parts -
I road 35 miles on my new Brooks C17. I had to make a few adjustments,
saddle tilt and raised the bars a little. I think I like it. It reminds me
of my B-17s before they developed the excessive humps. I still need to move
the saddle a little forward. I have some Rivets and they're comfortable,
The fastest rider in my group (by a good margin) rides a flat-bar Trek road
bike. He rides fairly far and fairly fast, setting Strava KOMs in Sonoma
County, if that's a measure. I said, Maybe you'd shave a few seconds with
drop bars, and he said, My back won't allow that.
Philip
That FD prolly needs a wider chain line.
On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 9:56:53 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
Well Grant would probably not approve of the amount of seat post showing,
but, it seems to work pretty good for me, and I am comfortable riding it.
Maybe would like a tad more
yes, no rust anywhere and I'm sure the bike will outlive me.
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 5:48:57 PM UTC-5, Ryan wrote:
Agreedit's aging beautifully. My early 70's Peugeot PX-10 (V3.0)
bought in 1981 is still a favourite bike. Not as practical as yours; it's a
single-speed.
Mmm. Braised Roadeo.
-Justin, Hungry in Oakland.
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As per the cable stops:
The Riv has the barrel adjusters below the mounting bolt,
The GR has them above.
Yes?
David
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Bump with new prices see below:
Contact me for a shipping quote.
$25 - Selle Marino Superleggero Touriste M saddle. Vintage saddle. Saddle
is in great shape no tears or blemishes other than the silver script is
worn off a little.the leather was partially re-glued underneath the saddle
but
No, they are both above the mounting bolt.
Heck, on my Paul Taylor that has head tube mounted cable stops, it would be
impossible to put them on below the stops.
On Thursday, August 14, 2014, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote:
As per the cable stops:
The Riv has the barrel adjusters below
Ditto. I run a 44/30 with an 11-28. This allows me to run a modern
(rd6700) along with the Campy Triple FD. The combination, in9 spd gives
me a super shifting pattern, and easy shifting on my Ram. I love it.
Michael
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:56:22 AM UTC-4, Bob E wrote:
I'm using
Ha!
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On 08/14/2014 03:46 PM, Philip Williamson wrote:
Agreed on USPS - I love them. I especially love walking my dog there in
the middle of the
Mike, for me Albas were fine with either an extension 10mm more than the
one I used on drops drops. When they REALLY shined is when I got them up
significantly higher though.
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Dave Johnston
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:43:25 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:
No, they are both above the mounting bolt.
I think the confusion might be my backwards description. The actual
adjuster barrel obviously has to face the front of the bike to accept the
cable housing. But it is designed to be
But it is designed to be mounted hanging toward the bottom of the
downtube.
Yup, that's what I meant by above/below, which also could be confusing,
because it's relative to a specific point.
In reality, I doubt it would be the source of your shifting woes. I have a
bike with Suntour Symmetrics
It's a GoPro.
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:16 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
No clue. The picture is from the crazyguy website.
dougP
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:13:46 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
dougP, what's
Yep, I have one in blue!
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J
thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:
That's a beautiful bike!
*From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
my Bleriot FD is a mid 90's Shimano Deore. It moved over from the previous
bike, is silver, and has never given me a bit of trouble, ever.
The custom Sweetpea (same crankset) has a Shimano Tiagra, which I do not like,
although it is currently behaving. There is the aforementioned IRD FD
Ok sorry, I see what you mean now. I'll pull the cables back when I get
home from vacation and swap the cable stops. I'll stick to riding the
Rivendell for now.
On Aug 14, 2014 7:13 PM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
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On Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:43:25
Maybe this really a foodie forum with a bicycling bent? I seem to recall
lots of ride reports that include details of the food beverage
component of the ride.
dougP
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 5:29:00 PM UTC-7, justin...@gmail.com wrote:
Mmm. Braised Roadeo.
-Justin, Hungry in
You got me thinking about the dog. Here's the answer:
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On Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:13:46 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
dougP, what's that black strap attached to the dog's neck?
I'd think it was a collar, but it is pulled up so tight
Microshift stuff seems to be hard to find except for a few models. No
telling whether any individual model will be available on the Internet or
not.
I was interested in the RD-R51M as it's a road rear derailer rated to
handle 34t cassettes, but I couldn't find anyone selling it. The plain
jane
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:12:02 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Mike, for me Albas were fine with either an extension 10mm more than the
one I used on drops drops.
David, you're talking about Albatross bars, not Albastache, right?
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Cheers,
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it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:12:02 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Mike, for me Albas were fine with either an extension 10mm more than the
I just swapped drops for albastaches on my SO and I kept the same stem but
moved it up a tad I think. Nice thing about a quill stem.
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So sounds like its doable if I wanna play with it one day.
But costly, as I'll need new derailers and cranks, maybe bb and custom toothed
rings. Maybe something to prepare as the wallet allows for future try out.
Compass cycles Rene Herse cranks would be cool because you can change the rings
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