[RBW] FS: Rivendell Atlantis 56cm

2014-10-22 Thread Ryan
I'm selling a used Rivendell Atlantis.  56cm.  26 Wheels.  Serial No. 
AT0055 (or 6). 

I'm asking $1,400.

Pic: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/4726050683.html

Bought new in 2000.  Used as a commuter and tourer:  paint shows it (nicks, 
chain rub, dirt, etc).  Never crashed, rides great. 

I'm in Fairfax, CA.  Would prefer to sell locally.

You can email with any questions.

Thanks,
Ryan
 
Components:
Front Wheel: XT Hub / Mavic 517 Rim / 32 holes
Rear Wheel: Ritchey Hub / Ritchey OCR Rim / 32 holes
Handler bar: Nitto B115 44cm
Stem: Nitto Techtonic
Tektro Levers
Sugino Triple (170)
Deore XT Brakes
SKS Plastic Fenders
Shimano Bar End Shifters
Tange Falcon Headset
Ritchey Seat Post
Shimano RSX Front Derailler
Shimano Deore Rear Derailler
AR-2 Pedals
Brooks B17 Saddle
Continental Travel Contact Tires


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[RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
Good Lord! $350 for an 11 speed cassette! 
If you scroll down, the price of the 10 speed cassette drops to a merely 
expensive $170. 
The 9 speed cassette drops non-linearly to $40.
Following this ratio further, they should pay me to take their 8 speed 
cassettes.
And I could retire if they gave me a 7 speed!

On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:17:13 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:

 http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-XTR-M9000/Shimano-XTR-CS-M9000-Cassette 

 11-40! 

 May have to more seriously consider that 1x11 setup.  Well ok maybe 
 when they release a normal price version of this, that is. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Atlantis 56cm

2014-10-22 Thread Michael Williams
Damn!!Thats a steal

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Ryan ryanl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm selling a used Rivendell Atlantis.  56cm.  26 Wheels.  Serial No.
 AT0055 (or 6).

 I'm asking $1,400.

 Pic: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/4726050683.html

 Bought new in 2000.  Used as a commuter and tourer:  paint shows it
 (nicks, chain rub, dirt, etc).  Never crashed, rides great.

 I'm in Fairfax, CA.  Would prefer to sell locally.

 You can email with any questions.

 Thanks,
 Ryan

 Components:
 Front Wheel: XT Hub / Mavic 517 Rim / 32 holes
 Rear Wheel: Ritchey Hub / Ritchey OCR Rim / 32 holes
 Handler bar: Nitto B115 44cm
 Stem: Nitto Techtonic
 Tektro Levers
 Sugino Triple (170)
 Deore XT Brakes
 SKS Plastic Fenders
 Shimano Bar End Shifters
 Tange Falcon Headset
 Ritchey Seat Post
 Shimano RSX Front Derailler
 Shimano Deore Rear Derailler
 AR-2 Pedals
 Brooks B17 Saddle
 Continental Travel Contact Tires


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[RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Joe Bernard
Carbon, ti, aluminum and steel all in one bike part. It's almost a self 
parody!

On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 10:17:13 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:

 http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-XTR-M9000/Shimano-XTR-CS-M9000-Cassette 

 11-40! 

 May have to more seriously consider that 1x11 setup.  Well ok maybe 
 when they release a normal price version of this, that is. 

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[RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
I think I'd just buy a Rholoff that will almost last forever rather than a 
$350 cassette that might need to be replaced every year or two.  



On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:17:13 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

 http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-XTR-M9000/Shimano-XTR-CS-M9000-Cassette 

 11-40! 

 May have to more seriously consider that 1x11 setup.  Well ok maybe 
 when they release a normal price version of this, that is. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 10/22/2014 02:54 AM, Joe Bernard wrote:
Carbon, ti, aluminum and steel all in one bike part. It's almost a 
self parody!


Looks like a pretty decent wide-range cassette.  Swap out the 11 and 13, 
replace with a 1st position 13 and a 14, mate it up with a 36x48 double 
and it would be a killer touring setup, wouldn't it?  No need for a 
granny with this setup!  36x40 gives you a 24 low.






On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 10:17:13 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:

http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-XTR-M9000/Shimano-XTR-CS-M9000-Cassette
http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-XTR-M9000/Shimano-XTR-CS-M9000-Cassette


11-40!

May have to more seriously consider that 1x11 setup.  Well ok maybe
when they release a normal price version of this, that is.



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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread cyclotourist
I missed the memo. Why are multiple chainrings bad again?

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-XTR-M9000/Shimano-XTR-CS-M9000-Cassette

 11-40!

 May have to more seriously consider that 1x11 setup.  Well ok maybe
 when they release a normal price version of this, that is.

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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 10/22/2014 09:34 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

I missed the memo. Why are multiple chainrings bad again?



There's an article in the current BQ that explains when/why they are good.


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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread cyclotourist
But why the move to get rid of triples and even doubles?

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On 10/22/2014 09:34 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

 I missed the memo. Why are multiple chainrings bad again?


 There's an article in the current BQ that explains when/why they are good.



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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Matthew J
 But why the move to get rid of triples and even doubles?

Simplicity and fewer moving parts.  

These concerns of course have to be weighed against where the rider lives 
and rides.  Arguments in favor of a 1x set up here in the upper Midwest 
would likely not carry well in much of California or Vermont.

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Jim Bronson
No argument here about the outrageous price, Rivendell sells 9 speed
11-32's for $40 as well.  I'd never pay $350 for a cassette, even if I
suddenly became a multimillionaire.  I'm not sure the OEMs should be
encouraged to think any sort of market exists for $350 cassettes.

I just think it would be neat if something like an 11-40 were
available in a 'normal' price cassette.  I would define that as $55 or
under.

Of course, at that price, it would probably weigh 500 grams, but hey a
1x drivetrain up front would save weight, right?

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:06 AM, 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
 Good Lord! $350 for an 11 speed cassette!
 If you scroll down, the price of the 10 speed cassette drops to a merely
 expensive $170.
 The 9 speed cassette drops non-linearly to $40.
 Following this ratio further, they should pay me to take their 8 speed
 cassettes.
 And I could retire if they gave me a 7 speed!


 On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:17:13 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:

 http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-XTR-M9000/Shimano-XTR-CS-M9000-Cassette

 11-40!

 May have to more seriously consider that 1x11 setup.  Well ok maybe
 when they release a normal price version of this, that is.

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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 10/22/2014 09:37 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

But why the move to get rid of triples and even doubles?



As I understand it, the issues are roughly these:

- triples don't play well with brifters

- wide range cassettes can replicate the gear range of road triples

- for cyclocross, deciding when/where to shift the front and then 
double-shift the rear and then executing it on steep short hills and in 
the hurry and stress of competition can be challenging and difficult, 
compared to shifting the rear alone.


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[RBW] Re: Platform/Spiked pedals question (gripsters, grip kings, etc.)

2014-10-22 Thread Kevin M
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this above, but you can dial in the 
grippyness of these types of pedals by simply removing a couple of pins. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I'm fine with front shifting. But if you're into these 1X+huge-range 
cassettes, take a look at Wolf Tooth's GC42. You will end up with 11-42 
10-speed cassette. 

It looks like a fairly straightforward conversion of a 10-speed cassette. 
(Remove the existing 17T, and add the 42T.) Sure beats the 11-speed price. 
I'd bet the 42T lasts a long time.
http://www.wolftoothcycling.com/collections/cassette-cogs

With any of these kits, YMMV. (I do like the idea of Wolf Tooth and others 
narrow/wide chain rings. Too bad they're designed for 10-sp chains.)

Here's a non-sponsored 
review: 
http://vikapproved.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/wolftooth-42t-cog-shimano-zee-derailleur/



On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:55:57 AM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:

 No argument here about the outrageous price, Rivendell sells 9 speed 
 11-32's for $40 as well.  I'd never pay $350 for a cassette, even if I 
 suddenly became a multimillionaire.  I'm not sure the OEMs should be 
 encouraged to think any sort of market exists for $350 cassettes. 

 I just think it would be neat if something like an 11-40 were 
 available in a 'normal' price cassette.  I would define that as $55 or 
 under. 

 Of course, at that price, it would probably weigh 500 grams, but hey a 
 1x drivetrain up front would save weight, right? 

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:06 AM, 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote: 
  Good Lord! $350 for an 11 speed cassette! 
  If you scroll down, the price of the 10 speed cassette drops to a merely 
  expensive $170. 
  The 9 speed cassette drops non-linearly to $40. 
  Following this ratio further, they should pay me to take their 8 speed 
  cassettes. 
  And I could retire if they gave me a 7 speed! 
  
  
  On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:17:13 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: 
  
  
 http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-XTR-M9000/Shimano-XTR-CS-M9000-Cassette 
  
  11-40! 
  
  May have to more seriously consider that 1x11 setup.  Well ok maybe 
  when they release a normal price version of this, that is. 
  
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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Eric Platt
With the recent phenomenon of much wider tires, 3 plus it can get
difficult for multiple chainrings to play nice with fat tires and maintain
a reasonable Q factor. And related to that, front deraileurs are tougher to
design and mount on these bikes. 1x or 2x is one solution.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Oct 22, 2014 9:22 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On 10/22/2014 09:37 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

 But why the move to get rid of triples and even doubles?


 As I understand it, the issues are roughly these:

 - triples don't play well with brifters

 - wide range cassettes can replicate the gear range of road triples

 - for cyclocross, deciding when/where to shift the front and then
 double-shift the rear and then executing it on steep short hills and in the
 hurry and stress of competition can be challenging and difficult, compared
 to shifting the rear alone.

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Re: [RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 10/22/2014 10:38 AM, Shoji Takahashi wrote:


It looks like a fairly straightforward conversion of a 10-speed 
cassette. (Remove the existing 17T, and add the 42T.) Sure beats the 
11-speed price. I'd bet the 42T lasts a long time.


I was under the impression that 10 speed cassettes cannot be customized 
that way, that the design precludes adding a sprocket behind the 
existing largest.  Quoting from Sheldon's site: /10-speed cassettes 
have a recess built into the back of the big spider module, allowing 
them to fit farther onto the Freehub body than older cassettes. This 
limits the possiblities of customizing the ratios, *because you can't 
install a flat sprocket behind the spider module*...you run out of 
clearance at the other end if you try.



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Re: [RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Patrick Moore
The marketing copy is self parody!

What sort of rd handles a 40 to cog?

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
 Carbon, ti, aluminum and steel all in one bike part. It's almost a self
 parody!



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[RBW] Re: FIRST RIDE ON MY B-17 standard

2014-10-22 Thread Ty Graham
I switched from my Professional to an old broken in B-17 for my 900 mile 
California trip. Crazy to change a major component at the last minute, but 
I decided I needed the comfort.

I'm really glad I made the swap. I had no issues, just 900 miles of 
comfort. My legs gave out way before I had any seat issues. Really amazing 
considering how little training I did before the California ride: 200 miles.

I'm going to leave this B-17 on the Atlantis.

Saddle slightly above bars. I mostly ride just behind the brake hoods. I 
slide off the back, getting flat for any kind of descent (and there were a 
lot of those).

Ty Graham (seattle)


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Re: [RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 10/22/2014 10:48 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:

The marketing copy is self parody!

What sort of rd handles a 40 to cog?


You might find this http://www.wolftoothcycling.com/pages/giant-cog 
regarding the Wolf Tooth 42T sprocket interesting.  One of the FAQs is 
what derailleurs work with a 42T sprocket.



And in answer to a question I raised earlier in this thread, quoting 
Sheldon re: flat sprockets  and why customizing 10 speed cassettes 
isn't possible, the Wolf Tooth isn't a flat sprocket. It's got 
protrusions that fit into the back of the cassette spider.



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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Jim Bronson
Triple has never worked well with my Rivendell.  I even had a fairly
lengthy thread on the topic here on this list.  44/28 Double with a
11-34 wide range in the back has worked a lot better.  But I wouldn't
mind having even wider.  That's why the 11-40 is attractive to me, may
be even able to go with a standard compact double up front if I had 40
in the back.  I'll have to calculate some gear inches and see how far
apart 28x34 is from 34x40.

If it's not everyone's cup of tea, that's understandable.  To each his own.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:55 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Shout it loudly, totally agree. Three rings with LOW 24 give me much joy and
 no problems.


 On Oct 22, 2014, at 6:37 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

 But why the move to get rid of triples and even doubles?

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On 10/22/2014 09:34 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

 I missed the memo. Why are multiple chainrings bad again?


 There's an article in the current BQ that explains when/why they are good.



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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 10/22/2014 11:02 AM, Jim Bronson wrote:

Triple has never worked well with my Rivendell.  I even had a fairly
lengthy thread on the topic here on this list.  44/28 Double with a
11-34 wide range in the back has worked a lot better.  But I wouldn't
mind having even wider.  That's why the 11-40 is attractive to me, may
be even able to go with a standard compact double up front if I had 40
in the back.  I'll have to calculate some gear inches and see how far
apart 28x34 is from 34x40.


28x34 is 22.2 and 34x40 is 23.0 for the same nominal 27 wheel. So, 
pretty close, but not quite as low.



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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread James Warren

To each his own as long as front derailleurs don't go extinct or even get hard 
to find. I don't want to use a stick.


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Subject: Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

Triple has never worked well with my Rivendell.  I even had a fairly
lengthy thread on the topic here on this list.  44/28 Double with a
11-34 wide range in the back has worked a lot better.  But I wouldn't
mind having even wider.  That's why the 11-40 is attractive to me, may
be even able to go with a standard compact double up front if I had 40
in the back.  I'll have to calculate some gear inches and see how far
apart 28x34 is from 34x40.

If it's not everyone's cup of tea, that's understandable.  To each his own.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:55 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Shout it loudly, totally agree. Three rings with LOW 24 give me much joy and
 no problems.


 On Oct 22, 2014, at 6:37 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

 But why the move to get rid of triples and even doubles?

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:36 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:

 On 10/22/2014 09:34 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

 I missed the memo. Why are multiple chainrings bad again?


 There's an article in the current BQ that explains when/why they are good.



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[RBW] Re: when ones winter studs are too big for fenders

2014-10-22 Thread gabe mcgann
Thanks for the input!  I am hoping that they don't stretch!  As I did just 
invest $100 into these two tires my budget is tapped for getting a 
different pair (the A10's)  unless anybody wants to buy them from me? !

Thanks again,
Gabriel

On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:33:09 AM UTC-4, Johan Larsson wrote:

 On Monday, October 20, 2014 2:47:13 PM UTC+2, gabe mcgann wrote:

 So I just installed a 54-584 suomi speed hakkapeliitta on my sam and 
 can no longer fit my fenders between the fork and these rather tall and fat 
 studded snow tires.  Any suggestion on how to stay dryish this winter?  I 
 have about 1mm between the top of the tire and the fork crown!


 The Sam H. isn't made to fit such tires unfortunately. 1 mm sounds really 
 tight, and possibly the tires will stretch in time so the studs will start 
 to touch eventually, so even if you get fenders to work, you can get other 
 problems. It's not absolutely sure they will stretch, but many tires do. 
 Those Finnish tires are really good though, and hopefully their new more 
 environment friendly rubber mixture are as good as the old one. I have a 
 pair more than fifteen years old that still work really well, with soft 
 rubber even though it has lots of cracks.

 Johan Larsson,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Road Standard vs. Rambouillet?

2014-10-22 Thread Bruce Herbitter
500 is a great price for a Waterford built bike. What year is yours? 54 is
probably not the catalog size, depending on your year, and of course the
measure is c-t-t.  I should point out that the Road standard has a slightly
sloped TT and extended HT which the  earlier Road like mine does not have.
Also the lugs decals and dropouts are different between early and later
models. All are good though.

On Tuesday, October 21, 2014, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a road standard frameset for sale if someone wants to test this
 theory for themselves. 54cm (53x55 ctc). $500 plus shipping.

 Jason
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 I have both bikes. The Road is a much quicker steering bike than the Ram,
 which tracks like it's on rails. The Road is made from Reynolds 753 with
 531 forks which gives it a noticeably livlier ride than than the Ram, which
 is very smooth and comfortable. I love them both, but these days put more
 time on the Road saddle than the Ram's. Both have the same Selle Anatomica
 saddle model, btw, as does the Saluki which gets less time than either.



 On Friday, October 10, 2014 10:36:38 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:

 Bumping this hoping for some additional input...


 On Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:03:15 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:

 Compared to my 60cm Rambouillet, a 61cm Road Standard has 1.5cm longer
 top tube, 1cm shorter chain stays, .5 degree steeper head tube and probably
 will only take a 32 tire.  Numbers are nice, but I'm curious if anyone has
 first hand experience with both?  Is the ride similar?  Is one sportier,
 stiffer, or more compliant, etc. than the other?


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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Matthew J
To each his own as long as front derailleurs don't go extinct or even get 
hard to find. I don't want to use a stick. 

Not likely this would happen.  Ebay is full of high quality NOS Shimano, 
Campy, and even Suntour friction front ders.  

Lot of indexed out there as well.  Of course depending on your bike shop it 
may be hard to get perfectly good but outdated index if their tied vendors 
are making them return in order to get the latest.  But then those returned 
stuff wind up with Ebay sellers as well.  You can usually find what you 
want.

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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 10/22/2014 11:28 AM, Matthew J wrote:
To each his own as long as front derailleurs don't go extinct or even 
get hard to find. I don't want to use a stick.


Not likely this would happen.  Ebay is full of high quality NOS 
Shimano, Campy, and even Suntour friction front ders.


Lot of indexed out there as well.  Of course depending on your bike 
shop it may be hard to get perfectly good but outdated index if their 
tied vendors are making them return in order to get the latest.  But 
then those returned stuff wind up with Ebay sellers as well.  You can 
usually find what you want.





AFAIK the push for single chain rings is primarily related to MTB and 
CX, so it really shouldn't have a major impact on road equipment.



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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Joe Bernard
I think triples are swell for street riding in hilly areas, but I imagine a 
wide-range-rear single-front-ring setup is the bee's knees for dirt racers 
and people who ride like them. Which is the market a stupid-expensive XTR 
part is aimed at. They'll sell a ton of them.

On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:28:31 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

 To each his own as long as front derailleurs don't go extinct or even get 
 hard to find. I don't want to use a stick. 

 Not likely this would happen.  Ebay is full of high quality NOS Shimano, 
 Campy, and even Suntour friction front ders.  

 Lot of indexed out there as well.  Of course depending on your bike shop 
 it may be hard to get perfectly good but outdated index if their tied 
 vendors are making them return in order to get the latest.  But then those 
 returned stuff wind up with Ebay sellers as well.  You can usually find 
 what you want.


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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Tim Gavin
Fat bikes are also pushing for single chain rings due to tire clearance
issues.  Few fat bikes ship with triples because they'd require a very wide
crank to clear the fat rear tire.  Surly's MWOD is an offset double
(basically uses the two outer rings of a triple) to ameliorate clerance
problems.

I just bought a fatbike (Specialized Fatboy) and am very happy with the
2x10 setup.  36/22 rings with 11-36 cassette. 1 x 11 would be OK, but I'm a
large mammal and will appreciate the granny ring this winter and for
technical stuff.

I love triples; my Riv has a Campy Racing Triple crank, my Schwinn KOM has
the original XT M730 Biopace triple, and my 26 MTB has a triple crank
too.  For me, triples shift best with friction (Campy Ergos are friction
for the front and easier to trim than Shimano STI).

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think triples are swell for street riding in hilly areas, but I imagine
 a wide-range-rear single-front-ring setup is the bee's knees for dirt
 racers and people who ride like them. Which is the market
 a stupid-expensive XTR part is aimed at. They'll sell a ton of them.


 On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 8:28:31 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

 To each his own as long as front derailleurs don't go extinct or even get
 hard to find. I don't want to use a stick.

 Not likely this would happen.  Ebay is full of high quality NOS Shimano,
 Campy, and even Suntour friction front ders.

 Lot of indexed out there as well.  Of course depending on your bike shop
 it may be hard to get perfectly good but outdated index if their tied
 vendors are making them return in order to get the latest.  But then those
 returned stuff wind up with Ebay sellers as well.  You can usually find
 what you want.

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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Patrick Moore
The cog progression on the 11-40 is actually not bad, though of course
it assumes a very small (~32 tooth) ring and though the gearing is
clearly meant for singletrack. But the same principle applies to other
terrain and other types of riding. I myself like the single ring setup
for all my riding, saving my inner for exceptional hills and choosing
my rear cogs for sufficient range for most of my riding with close
ratio cruising gears in the middle; both my road bike -- Ram and off
road (= sandy flats, mostly) bike -- Fargo are set up like this.

But gearing is always a compromise, even with 11 in the back, and even
with a 3X11: for this last you give up friction shifting (I imagine)
and mixing and matching components, not to mention low price and chain
line, in case this matters to you. Perhaps the Rohloff is the least
compromised system for off road and touring, all taken together,
though even that compromises with cost and weight.


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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 10/22/2014 12:18 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:

The cog progression on the 11-40 is actually not bad, though of course
it assumes a very small (~32 tooth) ring and though the gearing is
clearly meant for singletrack. But the same principle applies to other
terrain and other types of riding. I myself like the single ring setup
for all my riding, saving my inner for exceptional hills


If you have an /*inner ring*/ you are saving you do not have a single 
ring setup.



and choosing
my rear cogs for sufficient range for most of my riding with close
ratio cruising gears in the middle; both my road bike -- Ram and off
road (= sandy flats, mostly) bike -- Fargo are set up like this.


standard best practice for choosing gearing



But gearing is always a compromise, even with 11 in the back, and even
with a 3X11: for this last you give up friction shifting (I imagine)
and mixing and matching components, not to mention low price and chain
line, in case this matters to you. Perhaps the Rohloff is the least
compromised system for off road and touring, all taken together,
though even that compromises with cost and weight.



From what I've read, the roadies using 11 speed like it and say it 
shifts even better than 9 or 10.  There's no difference in chain line 11 
vs 9 or 10.  The compromise, if there is such, comes in when you 
consider cost, longevity and sensitivity to misadjustment. Although I 
have no personal experience with anything  9, from what I read there's 
no huge fall-off in longevity for 11 compared to 10.  Bottom line: 
forgetting friction shifting (which in my opinion stops at 7) you're 
talking about state of the art derailleur drive trains here.


Now as for Rohloff: again, no personal experience, but from what I've 
read in the way of test articles, you have all the bad features of IGH 
-- weight, cost, gears in the middle of the range that provide no 
meaningful change due to internal friction losses.   I might accept 
Best of a bad lot as a description, but certainly not least compromised.




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Re: [RBW] Photos from a Sunday Ride in Oregon

2014-10-22 Thread Shawn Granton
Yeah, nice photos! You lucked out with this past weekend, today it's going 
to be dumping rain in Portland.
Do you have a link to the route map?
-Shawn

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 I just got back, and I miss it, too. 

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 Looks like a beautiful day!

 I miss Oregon *sniff*

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 javascript: wrote:

 I rode a 100K permanent on Sunday into the countryside east and south of
 Portland. Photos here:

 https://flic.kr/s/aHsk5xsfWE

 Wasn’t able to bring a Riv, but I did ride with fenders, on leather, and
 with a Riv saddle bag … even wore wool!

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[RBW] BUMP AND PRICE REDUCTION: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

2014-10-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Some nibbles but no takers - price for frame/fork/headset/BB reduced to $1100 
shipped to lower 48.   These were $2200 new, new version is now around $3000!  
Frame pic:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/10492202654/in/set-72157637736975573

OR (if you want a ripping good deal on frame/fork/headset/BB and fabulous 
brakes) $1225 shipped with full set of basically new Bruce Gordon high polish 
cantilever brakes, installed.  Here's a pic of these wonderful brakes on this 
frame:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/13174642374/in/set-72157637736975573

And a closeup of the same brakes (different set, obviously) on a SimpleOne:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6906527983/in/set-72157629391118347

The Bruce Gordon cantis are $300 new for a full bike's worth.  
http://brucegordoncycles.bigcartel.com/product/bgc-cantilever-brakes  These 
have been ridden for 15 miles since installation.

Bombadil frames are incredibly versatile - I've built one up as a road bike 
with drops  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4249456177/in/set-72157624552118742 
, a Rohloff-equipped loaded touring bike 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8566366471/in/set-72157624552118742
and the current single speed setup on this frame.  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/13174275065/in/set-72157637736975573/
 .

Please don't make me put this up on the 'Bay!

From: Allingham II, Thomas J (WIL)
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 4:07 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: FS -- 56cm Bombadil

Hi, folks!  My medium blue 56cm Bombadil is for sale.  This is the first of 
what will likely be several Rivs (Bleriot, Atlantis?) of similar size that I'll 
probably put up for sale here as I try to fund a new project.

I'd be happy to sell it as a frame/fork/headset/BB, or as a complete bike.

Frame/fork/headset/BB, asking $1200 shipped.  There are some chips and rubs, no 
dents.  If I kept it I would probably have had it repainted, but I'm a bit 
fastidious about such things.  It's a great frameset.  Here's a pic:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/10492202654/in/set-72157637736975573

As a complete bike, you'd be buying a truly unique build - a single speed Bomba 
built around a beautiful wheelset using Ghisallo wooden rims, complemented by 
parts selected throughout for beauty, comfort and functionality.  Full build 
list attached, includes high-polish Bruce Gordon cantis with Paul levers, Peter 
Weigle-modified Campy front hub, White Industries ENO Eccentric rear, 
Stronglight crank with custom Bespoke Chainrings single ring, Phil Wood pedals, 
Nitto Bullmoose bars, Nitto Lugged seatpost, Berthoud rack/saddlebag combo.  It 
rides like a Riv, with plenty of Hetre comfort.  Here's a pic:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/13174275065/in/set-72157637736975573/

There are lots of other pics in my Flickr stream.  About $4500 invested.  I 
know this bike is not for everyone, but if you're interested you won't find 
another bike like it anywhere.  I don't have a clue what a bike like this is 
worth, so if you're the right buyer, make an offer for the full bike or some 
combination of frame and parts you're interested in.

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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Matthew J
 AFAIK the push for single chain rings is primarily related to MTB and 
 CX, so it really shouldn't have a major impact on road equipment. 

Probably.  But that just gives the 2x and 3x an excuse to search the bay 
for some lovely NOS Campy euclid and Shimano Deore.

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[RBW] BUMP AND PRICE REDUCTION: 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb

2014-10-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Bump and price reduction:  61cm Bleriot frame/fork/headset/BB now $650 shipped 
to lower 48.  Description and pics below.  Give this beautiful frameset a good 
home!

From: Allingham II, Thomas J (WIL)
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:16 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: FS -- 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb

OK - here's another opp'ty:  a nearly pristine 61 cm Bleriot.  There a couple 
of very small chips and scratches, but the frame/fork looks nearly NOS.  I 
bought this in 2010 from a list member but never completely built it up (though 
I mocked it up briefly as a 650B single speed, see pic below).  Paid $675, plus 
shipping.  Asking $675, shipped, for f/f/hs/bb.  (Headset and bb are as new, as 
far as I can tell.)  You can fit (I have been assured, on this list) Hetres and 
fenders in this frame; you can easily fit the new (and wonderful) Compass Loup 
Loup Pass 38mm with fenders, for sure.  If you haven't seen a Bleriot in 
person, be assured it's a beautiful frameset - the subtly iridescent blue is 
gorgeous, and the graphics/decals/headbadge are as pretty as Grant et al. have 
ever produced, IMHO.

Here's a pic of the frame/fork/hs/bb, with some other random parts:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/15333253329/in/set-72157626790331746

And for fun, here's the mockup:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6505250287/in/set-72157626790331746

Plenty of other pics here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157626790331746/

Also willing to include any of the parts you see in the two pics, as follows:

Lauterwasser bars, alloy -- $40
Brooks Slender grips -- $45
Tektro levers -- $25
Kalloy seatpost -- $15

All prices shipped.




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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Patrick Moore
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
 On 10/22/2014 12:18 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:

 The cog progression on the 11-40 is actually not bad, though of course
 it assumes a very small (~32 tooth) ring and though the gearing is
 clearly meant for singletrack. But the same principle applies to other
 terrain and other types of riding. I myself like the single ring setup
 for all my riding, saving my inner for exceptional hills


 If you have an inner ring you are saving you do not have a single ring
 setup.

Read it again.

 and choosing
 my rear cogs for sufficient range for most of my riding with close
 ratio cruising gears in the middle; both my road bike -- Ram and off
 road (= sandy flats, mostly) bike -- Fargo are set up like this.


 standard best practice for choosing gearing


 But gearing is always a compromise, even with 11 in the back, and even
 with a 3X11: for this last you give up friction shifting (I imagine)
 and mixing and matching components, not to mention low price and chain
 line, in case this matters to you. Perhaps the Rohloff is the least
 compromised system for off road and touring, all taken together,
 though even that compromises with cost and weight.


 From what I've read, the roadies using 11 speed like it and say it shifts
 even better than 9 or 10.  There's no difference in chain line 11 vs 9 or
 10.  The compromise, if there is such, comes in when you consider cost,
 longevity and sensitivity to misadjustment.  Although I have no personal
 experience with anything  9, from what I read there's no huge fall-off in
 longevity for 11 compared to 10.  Bottom line: forgetting friction shifting
 (which in my opinion stops at 7) you're talking about state of the art
 derailleur drive trains here.

Read it again.


 Now as for Rohloff: again, no personal experience, but from what I've read
 in the way of test articles, you have all the bad features of IGH -- weight,
 cost, gears in the middle of the range that provide no meaningful change due
 to internal friction losses.   I might accept Best of a bad lot as a
 description, but certainly not least compromised.


Jan's review of the Rohloff is not the only review of the Rohloff.



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Re: [RBW] Photos from a Sunday Ride in Oregon

2014-10-22 Thread Eric Norris
Cue sheet for the ride is here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArwJtSEX402hdDJWREFRWmg4RVdjQnYzUHhabUlqQ3c#gid=0
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArwJtSEX402hdDJWREFRWmg4RVdjQnYzUHhabUlqQ3c#gid=0
 

GPS route (which in my experience was sometimes different from the cue sheet 
but still very helpful): http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1289951 
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1289951 

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 On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Shawn Granton urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yeah, nice photos! You lucked out with this past weekend, today it's going to 
 be dumping rain in Portland.
 Do you have a link to the route map?
 -Shawn
 
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 I just got back, and I miss it, too. 
 
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 On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:
 
 Looks like a beautiful day!
 
 I miss Oregon *sniff*
 
 On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Eric Norris campyo...@me.com 
 javascript: wrote:
 I rode a 100K permanent on Sunday into the countryside east and south of
 Portland. Photos here:
 
 https://flic.kr/s/aHsk5xsfWE https://flic.kr/s/aHsk5xsfWE
 
 Wasn’t able to bring a Riv, but I did ride with fenders, on leather, and
 with a Riv saddle bag … even wore wool!
 
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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Scott Henry
​To put it in perspective, $350 is the MSRP of the standard Dura-Ace
cassette.
Not my cup-o-tea, but the $350 for a usable 1x11 doesn't seen so bad.

Scott​

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 http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-XTR-M9000/Shimano-XTR-CS-M9000-Cassette

 11-40!

 May have to more seriously consider that 1x11 setup.  Well ok maybe
 when they release a normal price version of this, that is.

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Re: [RBW] These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Does anyone know the markup? If you can buy a 9 speed cassette for
under $50, the cost to manufacture + associated costs should be no
more than $40 or so; I wonder what it costs to mfr this 11, and to
amortize all the related overhead and marketing costs? I realize that
there will be variables, but $300 worth?

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 To put it in perspective, $350 is the MSRP of the standard Dura-Ace
 cassette.
 Not my cup-o-tea, but the $350 for a usable 1x11 doesn't seen so bad.

 Scott

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 http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-XTR-M9000/Shimano-XTR-CS-M9000-Cassette

 11-40!

 May have to more seriously consider that 1x11 setup.  Well ok maybe
 when they release a normal price version of this, that is.

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[RBW] Re: Splats question

2014-10-22 Thread EGNolan
About as low tech as you can get, but would a rubber band work? Just wrap 
the rubber band over the top of the splats and below your shoe.Not elegant, 
not permanent, but may give you some extended life...
 
I got rid of my splats a while back because they didn't play nice w/ my 
flat soled shoes either. In Indiana I get slightly less rain than you, 
though...
 
 
Best,
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[RBW] Re: Splats question

2014-10-22 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Maybe some Shoe Goo or similar over the strap or other parts that are 
starting to wear?



On Monday, October 20, 2014 8:33:57 PM UTC-4, Beth H wrote:

 I boug a pair of Splats when they first came out almost three years ago. I 
 wear shoes without a raised heel -- usually Chrome Kursks because they-so 
 comfortable.
 I have noticed that, even though I'm careful to remove the splats at my 
 destination, I still am wearing out the strap that goes underneath my foot.
 Has anyone else experienced this?  Is there a good fix that will keep me 
 from having to buy another pair right away? I don't own an industrial 
 sewing machine so lower-ech solutions are sought. I LOVE these and want to 
 keep them going before buying replacements.
 Beth in pdx, where the rain has returned for the season

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[RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil

2014-10-22 Thread Nanga Parbat
Hello,
Does anyone know the seatpost size for the double horizontal top tube 
Bombadil? 26.8?
Cheers,
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RE: [RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil

2014-10-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I believe that’s correct.

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil

Hello,
Does anyone know the seatpost size for the double horizontal top tube Bombadil? 
26.8?
Cheers,
Scott
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[RBW] Re: Splats question

2014-10-22 Thread Deacon Patrick
I wear minimalist shoes (no heel, among other things). I had my gators made 
so the strap goes under my heel inside my shoes. No wear. I run and bike in 
them (they have a splat-like tongue on them). Anyway, if you attach this 
strap or a new strap (with elastic as part of it ideally) an inch or so up 
from the bottom lip of the spat on either side, then the splat hangs over 
the side of your shoe and the strap is inside your shoe. Trickier on and 
off though.

These photos show them pretty well:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/13331394154/in/photolist-mj1U9r-mj3T2m-mJ5mV1-n5m5eH
and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/13331007705/in/photolist-mj1U9r-mj3T2m-mJ5mV1-n5m5eH/
and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/13603278994/in/photolist-mj1U9r-mj3T2m-mJ5mV1-n5m5eH/

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, October 20, 2014 6:33:57 PM UTC-6, Beth H wrote:

 I boug a pair of Splats when they first came out almost three years ago. I 
 wear shoes without a raised heel -- usually Chrome Kursks because they-so 
 comfortable.
 I have noticed that, even though I'm careful to remove the splats at my 
 destination, I still am wearing out the strap that goes underneath my foot.
 Has anyone else experienced this?  Is there a good fix that will keep me 
 from having to buy another pair right away? I don't own an industrial 
 sewing machine so lower-ech solutions are sought. I LOVE these and want to 
 keep them going before buying replacements.
 Beth in pdx, where the rain has returned for the season

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[RBW] A. Saluki Hilsen

2014-10-22 Thread Chris Chen
Almost 2 months after the crash, we're back with a slightly different
bike...

58cm Toyo, 130mm Rear Spacing!?, Edelux + Toplight, and 584-38 Lierres to
start.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157646463549633/

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RE: [RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil

2014-10-22 Thread Goshen Peter
Hmmm, this is my old bike and a lugged nitto 27.2 worked fine. I don't
think they all needed a smaller seatpost.
On Oct 22, 2014 2:33 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:

  I believe that’s correct.



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 Hello,

 Does anyone know the seatpost size for the double horizontal top tube
 Bombadil? 26.8?

 Cheers,

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Re: [RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil

2014-10-22 Thread Dan McNamara
Mine is 26.8. Double horizontal with clear powder coat.

Dan



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 Hmmm, this is my old bike and a lugged nitto 27.2 worked fine. I don't
 think they all needed a smaller seatpost.
 On Oct 22, 2014 2:33 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
 thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:

  I believe that’s correct.



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 Hello,

 Does anyone know the seatpost size for the double horizontal top tube
 Bombadil? 26.8?

 Cheers,

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Re: [RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil

2014-10-22 Thread Goshen Peter
Yeah, mine came like that too before the re-paint but the 27.2 was fine,
never had to like jam it in or anything. I bought it off the original
owner Michael
Gillespie, maybe he knows for sure about this particular bike?

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mine is 26.8. Double horizontal with clear powder coat.

 Dan



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 Hmmm, this is my old bike and a lugged nitto 27.2 worked fine. I don't
 think they all needed a smaller seatpost.
 On Oct 22, 2014 2:33 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
 thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:

  I believe that’s correct.



 *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Nanga Parbat
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 *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil



 Hello,

 Does anyone know the seatpost size for the double horizontal top tube
 Bombadil? 26.8?

 Cheers,

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Re: [RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil

2014-10-22 Thread David Sprunger
Scott,
I have a 64m Bombadil from the first batch. The original online description
said the new frame would take a 26.8 post, but mine takes a 27.2. The frame
was built by Waterford in case that makes a difference.
David Sprunger
Fargo, ND

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 Hello,
 Does anyone know the seatpost size for the double horizontal top tube
 Bombadil? 26.8?
 Cheers,
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[RBW] Re: double horizontal toptube Bombadil

2014-10-22 Thread Leslie
It varies:  initially they came with the 26.8, but were later w/ the 27.2, 
then had to switch back to the 26.8 when it went diagonal (they were 
actually drilling out the tubes, had to under-drill them w/ the smaller 
size to ensure enough meat in the tube); were slated to get more tubes 
ordered in to get back to 27.2.   I had to order the 26.8 seatpost w/ it 
(RBW is the easiest place to find the Nitto 26.8 posts anyway).   

If you have a 27.2 to try, and it goes in w/o effort, I'd go w/ the 27.2 
instead   




On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:33:04 PM UTC-4, Nanga Parbat wrote:

 Hello,
 Does anyone know the seatpost size for the double horizontal top tube 
 Bombadil? 26.8?
 Cheers,
 Scott


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[RBW] Re: BUMP AND PRICE REDUCTION: 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb

2014-10-22 Thread Leslie
Dude, you're killin' me! I have no reason to want or need this bike 
given that I 650b'd my Ram, yet I still find myself trying to justify 
it...

Somebody, please rush in and buy this bike, remove my temptation;  I don't 
want to give the wife yet another bicycle-reason to kill me






On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:03:16 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:

  Bump and price reduction:  61cm Bleriot frame/fork/headset/BB now $650 
 shipped to lower 48.  Description and pics below.  Give this beautiful 
 frameset a good home!

  
  
 *From:* Allingham II, Thomas J (WIL) 
 *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 12:16 AM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* FS -- 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb
  
  

 OK – here’s another opp’ty:  a nearly pristine 61 cm Bleriot.  There a 
 couple of very small chips and scratches, but the frame/fork looks nearly 
 NOS.  I bought this in 2010 from a list member but never completely built 
 it up (though I mocked it up briefly as a 650B single speed, see pic 
 below).  Paid $675, plus shipping.  Asking $675, shipped, for f/f/hs/bb.  
 (Headset and bb are as new, as far as I can tell.)  You can fit (I have 
 been assured, on this list) Hetres and fenders in this frame; you can 
 easily fit the new (and wonderful) Compass Loup Loup Pass 38mm with 
 fenders, for sure.  If you haven’t seen a Bleriot in person, be assured 
 it’s a beautiful frameset – the subtly iridescent blue is gorgeous, and the 
 graphics/decals/headbadge are as pretty as Grant et al. have ever produced, 
 IMHO.

  

 Here’s a pic of the frame/fork/hs/bb, with some other random parts:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/15333253329/in/set-72157626790331746

  

 And for fun, here’s the mockup:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6505250287/in/set-72157626790331746

  

 Plenty of other pics here:

  

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157626790331746/

  

 Also willing to include any of the parts you see in the two pics, as 
 follows:

  

 Lauterwasser bars, alloy -- $40

 Brooks Slender grips -- $45

 Tektro levers -- $25

 Kalloy seatpost -- $15

  

 All prices shipped.  

  

  

  
  
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RE: [RBW] Re: BUMP AND PRICE REDUCTION: 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb

2014-10-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Time to re-700C the Ram, and slide those 650B parts on over to this tasty frame!

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Leslie
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:15 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: BUMP AND PRICE REDUCTION: 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb

Dude, you're killin' me! I have no reason to want or need this bike given 
that I 650b'd my Ram, yet I still find myself trying to justify it...

Somebody, please rush in and buy this bike, remove my temptation;  I don't want 
to give the wife yet another bicycle-reason to kill me






On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:03:16 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
Bump and price reduction:  61cm Bleriot frame/fork/headset/BB now $650 shipped 
to lower 48.  Description and pics below.  Give this beautiful frameset a good 
home!

From: Allingham II, Thomas J (WIL)
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:16 AM
To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:
Subject: FS -- 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb

OK – here’s another opp’ty:  a nearly pristine 61 cm Bleriot.  There a couple 
of very small chips and scratches, but the frame/fork looks nearly NOS.  I 
bought this in 2010 from a list member but never completely built it up (though 
I mocked it up briefly as a 650B single speed, see pic below).  Paid $675, plus 
shipping.  Asking $675, shipped, for f/f/hs/bb.  (Headset and bb are as new, as 
far as I can tell.)  You can fit (I have been assured, on this list) Hetres and 
fenders in this frame; you can easily fit the new (and wonderful) Compass Loup 
Loup Pass 38mm with fenders, for sure.  If you haven’t seen a Bleriot in 
person, be assured it’s a beautiful frameset – the subtly iridescent blue is 
gorgeous, and the graphics/decals/headbadge are as pretty as Grant et al. have 
ever produced, IMHO.

Here’s a pic of the frame/fork/hs/bb, with some other random parts:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/15333253329/in/set-72157626790331746

And for fun, here’s the mockup:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6505250287/in/set-72157626790331746

Plenty of other pics here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157626790331746/

Also willing to include any of the parts you see in the two pics, as follows:

Lauterwasser bars, alloy -- $40
Brooks Slender grips -- $45
Tektro levers -- $25
Kalloy seatpost -- $15

All prices shipped.




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[RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Garth
It is what it is .  I don't find it out of line in price or function at 
all. XTR has always been the top of the line, cutting edge Shimano . 6 
Titanium cogs and 4 carbon fiber carriers.  It's never been inexpensive in 
any way , nor should it be .   For those that simply want it, they're glad 
it's there , price is irrelevant . 

6 Titanium cogs and 4 carbon fiber carriers, great !  

I'm happy using 6 and 7 speed FW's and doubles and triples myself .  FD's 
are great , as are 3 rings and Sun Tour Thumb shifters , but I'm sure 1x? 
are fine for certain bikes and places .


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Re: [RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil

2014-10-22 Thread qwerty
On 10/22/14, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, mine came like that too before the re-paint but the 27.2 was fine,
 never had to like jam it in or anything. I bought it off the original
 owner Michael
 Gillespie, maybe he knows for sure about this particular bike?


Right Peter.  I used a 27.2 mm post as well.  Congratualtions to the new owner!

Mike

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[RBW] Re: A. Saluki Hilsen

2014-10-22 Thread Ron Mc
I love this photo 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/15433328435/in/set-72157646463549633

On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:43:44 PM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Almost 2 months after the crash, we're back with a slightly different 
 bike...

 58cm Toyo, 130mm Rear Spacing!?, Edelux + Toplight, and 584-38 Lierres to 
 start.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157646463549633/

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Re: [RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil

2014-10-22 Thread Nanga Parbat
27.2 it is. Thank you for the input. 
Cheers
Scott

On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:35:04 PM UTC-7, Mike Gillespie wrote:

 On 10/22/14, Goshen Peter uscpet...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: 
  Yeah, mine came like that too before the re-paint but the 27.2 was fine, 
  never had to like jam it in or anything. I bought it off the original 
  owner Michael 
  Gillespie, maybe he knows for sure about this particular bike? 


 Right Peter.  I used a 27.2 mm post as well.  Congratualtions to the new 
 owner! 

 Mike 


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Re: [RBW] Re: BUMP AND PRICE REDUCTION: 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb

2014-10-22 Thread Leslie
But my 700c bits are on the Rom!  (Hence another part of the reason why I 
shouldn't be looking!)lol.





On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:16:21 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:

  Time to re-700C the Ram, and slide those 650B parts on over to this 
 tasty frame!

  

 *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Leslie
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:15 PM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* [RBW] Re: BUMP AND PRICE REDUCTION: 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb

  
  
 Dude, you're killin' me! I have no reason to want or need this bike 
 given that I 650b'd my Ram, yet I still find myself trying to justify 
 it...

 Somebody, please rush in and buy this bike, remove my temptation;  I don't 
 want to give the wife yet another bicycle-reason to kill me






 On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:03:16 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
  
 Bump and price reduction:  61cm Bleriot frame/fork/headset/BB now $650 
 shipped to lower 48.  Description and pics below.  Give this beautiful 
 frameset a good home!

  
  
 *From:* Allingham II, Thomas J (WIL) 
 *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 12:16 AM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* FS -- 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb
  
  

 OK – here’s another opp’ty:  a nearly pristine 61 cm Bleriot.  There a 
 couple of very small chips and scratches, but the frame/fork looks nearly 
 NOS.  I bought this in 2010 from a list member but never completely built 
 it up (though I mocked it up briefly as a 650B single speed, see pic 
 below).  Paid $675, plus shipping.  Asking $675, shipped, for f/f/hs/bb.  
 (Headset and bb are as new, as far as I can tell.)  You can fit (I have 
 been assured, on this list) Hetres and fenders in this frame; you can 
 easily fit the new (and wonderful) Compass Loup Loup Pass 38mm with 
 fenders, for sure.  If you haven’t seen a Bleriot in person, be assured 
 it’s a beautiful frameset – the subtly iridescent blue is gorgeous, and the 
 graphics/decals/headbadge are as pretty as Grant et al. have ever produced, 
 IMHO.

  

 Here’s a pic of the frame/fork/hs/bb, with some other random parts:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/15333253329/in/set-72157626790331746

  

 And for fun, here’s the mockup:

  


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6505250287/in/set-72157626790331746

  

 Plenty of other pics here:

  

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157626790331746/

  

 Also willing to include any of the parts you see in the two pics, as 
 follows:

  

 Lauterwasser bars, alloy -- $40

 Brooks Slender grips -- $45

 Tektro levers -- $25

 Kalloy seatpost -- $15

  

 All prices shipped.  

  

  

  
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Patrick Moore
I'd buy it if it had 6 carbon fiber cogs and 4 titanium carriers.

Patrick Moore, who did indeed drop into his 38 t granny* on today's
grocery Store ride, which included some 3 miles of steep and longish
and wholly gratuitous hills in Rio Rancho, NM.

*52/38 compact gearing with 16-26 cassette, no carbon fiber, aluminum,
or titanium at all!

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:
 It is what it is .  I don't find it out of line in price or function at all.
 XTR has always been the top of the line, cutting edge Shimano . 6 Titanium
 cogs and 4 carbon fiber carriers.  It's never been inexpensive in any way ,
 nor should it be .   For those that simply want it, they're glad it's there
 , price is irrelevant .

 6 Titanium cogs and 4 carbon fiber carriers, great !

 I'm happy using 6 and 7 speed FW's and doubles and triples myself .  FD's
 are great , as are 3 rings and Sun Tour Thumb shifters , but I'm sure 1x?
 are fine for certain bikes and places .


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RE: [RBW] Re: BUMP AND PRICE REDUCTION: 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb

2014-10-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
RAM!  ROM!  LOOIE!

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Leslie
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:51 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: BUMP AND PRICE REDUCTION: 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb

But my 700c bits are on the Rom!  (Hence another part of the reason why I 
shouldn't be looking!)lol.





On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:16:21 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
Time to re-700C the Ram, and slide those 650B parts on over to this tasty frame!

From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: 
[mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:] On Behalf Of Leslie
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:15 PM
To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:
Subject: [RBW] Re: BUMP AND PRICE REDUCTION: 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb

Dude, you're killin' me! I have no reason to want or need this bike given 
that I 650b'd my Ram, yet I still find myself trying to justify it...

Somebody, please rush in and buy this bike, remove my temptation;  I don't want 
to give the wife yet another bicycle-reason to kill me






On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:03:16 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
Bump and price reduction:  61cm Bleriot frame/fork/headset/BB now $650 shipped 
to lower 48.  Description and pics below.  Give this beautiful frameset a good 
home!

From: Allingham II, Thomas J (WIL)
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:16 AM
To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
Subject: FS -- 61 cm Bleriot f/f/hs/bb

OK – here’s another opp’ty:  a nearly pristine 61 cm Bleriot.  There a couple 
of very small chips and scratches, but the frame/fork looks nearly NOS.  I 
bought this in 2010 from a list member but never completely built it up (though 
I mocked it up briefly as a 650B single speed, see pic below).  Paid $675, plus 
shipping.  Asking $675, shipped, for f/f/hs/bb.  (Headset and bb are as new, as 
far as I can tell.)  You can fit (I have been assured, on this list) Hetres and 
fenders in this frame; you can easily fit the new (and wonderful) Compass Loup 
Loup Pass 38mm with fenders, for sure.  If you haven’t seen a Bleriot in 
person, be assured it’s a beautiful frameset – the subtly iridescent blue is 
gorgeous, and the graphics/decals/headbadge are as pretty as Grant et al. have 
ever produced, IMHO.

Here’s a pic of the frame/fork/hs/bb, with some other random parts:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/15333253329/in/set-72157626790331746

And for fun, here’s the mockup:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/6505250287/in/set-72157626790331746

Plenty of other pics here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/sets/72157626790331746/

Also willing to include any of the parts you see in the two pics, as follows:

Lauterwasser bars, alloy -- $40
Brooks Slender grips -- $45
Tektro levers -- $25
Kalloy seatpost -- $15

All prices shipped.




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[RBW] fs: 700c Rich built - LX/Synergy 36h wheels + Soma Highway One handlebars

2014-10-22 Thread Eric
For sale...I'd prefer someone to pick them up in Chicago but if you'd like 
to have them shipped to you that can be arranged.

1) Soma Highway One bars - black. 44cm wide / 26.0 clamp. Mounted but never 
ridden. $25

2) Rich built 700c wheels. 36h LX hubs, Synergy rims. Great shape! $200

http://s13.postimg.org/ptwtcn20n/soma1.jpg
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[RBW] Re: fs: 700c Rich built - LX/Synergy 36h wheels + Soma Highway One handlebars

2014-10-22 Thread Eric
Oh and skewers will be included with wheels. 

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RE: [RBW] Re: fs: 700c Rich built - LX/Synergy 36h wheels + Soma Highway One handlebars

2014-10-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
With skewers!

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RE: [RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil

2014-10-22 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I was recalling what Riv said when these bikes were announced.  But I just 
checked both of my Bombas, and they’re 27.2.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:50 PM
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Subject: RE: [RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil


Hmmm, this is my old bike and a lugged nitto 27.2 worked fine. I don't think 
they all needed a smaller seatpost.
On Oct 22, 2014 2:33 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J 
thomas.alling...@skadden.commailto:thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote:
I believe that’s correct.

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Hello,
Does anyone know the seatpost size for the double horizontal top tube Bombadil? 
26.8?
Cheers,
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[RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Matthew J
 but I'm sure 1x? are fine for certain bikes and places .

Riding mainly in Illinois/Wisconsin/Iowa I have been happy with 1x5 fw and 
now am using a 1x6 modified Shimano cassette.

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[RBW] Re: These ones go to 11, again

2014-10-22 Thread Joe Bernard
I think it's safe to say this group is not the demo for a $350 11-speed 
cassette. Does it friction? ;)

On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:24:25 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:

 It is what it is .  I don't find it out of line in price or function at 
 all. XTR has always been the top of the line, cutting edge Shimano . 6 
 Titanium cogs and 4 carbon fiber carriers.  It's never been inexpensive in 
 any way , nor should it be .   For those that simply want it, they're glad 
 it's there , price is irrelevant . 

 6 Titanium cogs and 4 carbon fiber carriers, great !  

 I'm happy using 6 and 7 speed FW's and doubles and triples myself .  FD's 
 are great , as are 3 rings and Sun Tour Thumb shifters , but I'm sure 1x? 
 are fine for certain bikes and places .




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[RBW] RBW has 60cm Simpleone FS.

2014-10-22 Thread lungimsam
Get while you can.

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/wsf-110.htm

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[RBW] Re: A. Saluki Hilsen

2014-10-22 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Excellent!  You are a month or two ahead of me... I'm expecting a new fork for 
my 60cm Saluki from Riv in early November then it's off to Groody Bros for a 
full frame recoat. So I'm hoping for a 'new-to-me' Saluki post around Christmas.

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[RBW] Re: A. Saluki Hilsen

2014-10-22 Thread Cecily Walker
This - 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/15433328435/in/set-72157646463549633 


Made me so happy. 



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 58cm Toyo, 130mm Rear Spacing!?, Edelux + Toplight, and 584-38 Lierres to 
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[RBW] Re: A. Saluki Hilsen

2014-10-22 Thread WETH
From the photos, you are already enjoying the bike.  Great pictures!

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Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-22 Thread Cecily Walker
Surly used to use cockroaches on their website as part of their branding. 
It was an instant turn-off for me. Horses for courses!


On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:26:19 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 I find that the Surly/Riv overlap is pretty small. It seems like only 3 
 Surly models have a comparable Riv analog. Much of Surly's line is more or 
 less unique to Surly, or was unique when first introduced. That said, the 
 two brands share a lot of similar ideas about versatility, tire clearance, 
 etc. And I never thought I'd see Surly do 650B, but now they are coming out 
 with a 650B Straggler (down to 38 cm frames!!!). 

 I see a lot here and elsewhere about Surly's marketing rubbing people the 
 wrong way. I don't read many magazines or read many bike blogs that include 
 ads, so I'm missing most of their formal marketing. Somebody told me awhile 
 back that Riv appeals to the misfits of cycling, and I think that's right 
 (and not in an insulting way). Much of GP's past writing, which reflects 
 many Riv owners' attitudes in my experience, is about feeling alienated by 
 modern cycling trends, and about digging in to resist dumb things that are 
 done in the name of innovation or the perception of improved performance. 
 Surly also appeals to alienated misfits, but in a different way. The Surly 
 image seems to be more about having, um, unorthodox cycling needs (that are 
 somehow related to drinking beer under bridges and having lots of tattoos) 
 and designing a whole new category around it. While Riv frequently gets 
 criticized for being stuck in the past, Surly frequently gets criticized 
 for pushing products on us before we knew that we needed them. In the end, 
 Surly and Riv, in their own ways, pull the broader bike industry in a 
 better direction.

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[RBW] Re: A. Saluki Hilsen

2014-10-22 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic! Always good to hop back on the 'orce!

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-22 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 10/22/2014 06:35 PM, Cecily Walker wrote:
Surly used to use cockroaches on their website as part of their 
branding. It was an instant turn-off for me.


The font they use for the name on the downtube is an instant turn-off 
for me.



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[RBW] Re: A. Saluki Hilsen

2014-10-22 Thread lungimsam
What was damaged and how did they fix it? 

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Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-22 Thread Rod Holland
I've got two. Dandy steel bikes, 10,000 happy miles on one of them. No roaches 
on mine.

rod

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[RBW] Re: October Overnighter

2014-10-22 Thread hsmitham
Robert,

Nice write up and picture's. Always enjoy the images of the PNW.

Hugh
Los Angeles 


On Monday, October 20, 2014 12:22:20 PM UTC-7, SpiralCage wrote:
 In between the rainy weather we had some nice weather this past weekend. I 
 took advantage of this break for an overnighter at a remarkably close by 
 campground on Bainbridge Island. Check out my report of this autumn camping 
 excursion here:
 
 http://www.spiralcage.com/rootless/?p=4208
 
 or just head straight for the pics:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/35237104136@N01/sets/72157648886861795
 
 cheers,
 Robert

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Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-22 Thread cyclotourist
Surly has an actual headbadge, that should mitigate their font choice some.

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 I've got two. Dandy steel bikes, 10,000 happy miles on one of them. No
 roaches on mine.

 rod

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Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv

2014-10-22 Thread cyclotourist
Still waiting for Waterford and Gunnar to have proper headbadges...

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 Surly has an actual headbadge, that should mitigate their font choice some.

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 wrote:

 I've got two. Dandy steel bikes, 10,000 happy miles on one of them. No
 roaches on mine.

 rod

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[RBW] Re: FS: Leather Fender Washers.

2014-10-22 Thread David Banzer
   
 9:38 PM (less than a minute ago) 
   Thanks to all who placed orders for these. The remainder will be sent 
out tomorrow.
I have enough for 10 more packs at this price: 
http://treetop.bigcartel.com/product/leather-washers-lot-of-50
I'll continue to offer these as 10-per pack and 25-per pack in my 
storefront, at slightly higher prices per washer, simply because I don't 
have enough time (nor energy) to cut more of these in a large quantity.
So... 10 more available at this price/quantity.
Thanks,
David
Chicago

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[RBW] fs: Shimano Tiagra levers (two pairs!)

2014-10-22 Thread Eric
fs: Shimano Tiagra levers. Used but excellent shape. Purchased from 
Rivendell. 

I have two pairs available. Pretty much the same condition for each pair.

$20 shipped, fees covered.

PayPal sent as Pay For Goods  Services  shipped to confirmed address. 

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[RBW] Re: Road Standard vs. Rambouillet?

2014-10-22 Thread rw1911
Thanks!  That's exactly what I was hoping for - something a little more 
sporty and lively.

Question regarding your 2nd post:  Do you know more about the specific 
differences between the earlier Road and the later Road Standard?  
Cyclofiend has info on the Road Standard, but haven't been able to find 
anything on the earlier Road. The bike I'm looking at is 753/531 with 
Sachs(?) lugs, but it does not have an extended head tube leading me to 
believe it's an earlier Road.


On Monday, October 20, 2014 8:06:13 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:

 I have both bikes. The Road is a much quicker steering bike than the Ram, 
 which tracks like it's on rails. The Road is made from Reynolds 753 with 
 531 forks which gives it a noticeably livlier ride than than the Ram, which 
 is very smooth and comfortable. I love them both, but these days put more 
 time on the Road saddle than the Ram's. Both have the same Selle Anatomica 
 saddle model, btw, as does the Saluki which gets less time than either.



 On Friday, October 10, 2014 10:36:38 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:

 Bumping this hoping for some additional input...  


 On Saturday, September 20, 2014 9:03:15 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote:

 Compared to my 60cm Rambouillet, a 61cm Road Standard has 1.5cm longer 
 top tube, 1cm shorter chain stays, .5 degree steeper head tube and probably 
 will only take a 32 tire.  Numbers are nice, but I'm curious if anyone has 
 first hand experience with both?  Is the ride similar?  Is one sportier, 
 stiffer, or more compliant, etc. than the other?




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[RBW] Re: A. Saluki Hilsen

2014-10-22 Thread Manuel Acosta
Hoodlum. Pretty sure he cheated someone out of that new bike and he snagged a 
free dinner with that bike too. Maybe even a free basket. Pretty sure thats 
what happen. Until Chris confirms thats the story.

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RE: [RBW] double horizontal toptube Bombadil

2014-10-22 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I saw a reference to 52mm tires being max for these original bombadil's... What 
are some of the larger tires you have successfully run on these frames?

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Re: [RBW] Re: A. Saluki Hilsen

2014-10-22 Thread Chris Chen
That's actually what happened. Manny thought he could work off community
service by buying me a bike, AND Brazillian tri tip, but I bought that
basket net fair and square.

Thx Manny ur the best

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 Hoodlum. Pretty sure he cheated someone out of that new bike and he
 snagged a free dinner with that bike too. Maybe even a free basket. Pretty
 sure thats what happen. Until Chris confirms thats the story.

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