[RBW] Re: quote of the day

2015-03-07 Thread Reid
Um... What's an MCFRB?

Reid

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[RBW] Re: Ms. Clementine

2015-03-07 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Yes, THAT is exactly the style in which I intend to build up my Lady 
Clementine...  Like a Henderson (but with gears and hand brakes!) thanks for 
the photo.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: New White Industries ring design!

2015-03-07 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Yep.  That's the math of it. 

- J

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 6:07:15 AM UTC-8, Roger wrote:



 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:56:58 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 ... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wide+narrow+chainringl=1You can't run 
 wide/narrow rings with multiple chainrings because if you shifted from one 
 to the other and didn't hit the right kind of tooth, the chain would skate 
 on the top, or fall off, or get a narrow gap wedged onto a wide tooth...


 I've been trying to picture one thing: do the number of teeth of the 
 chainring plus the cog need to add up to an even number so that the pattern 
 of thick/thin teeth meeting the thick/thin chain doesn't reverse to 
 thick/thin meeting the thin/thick every other time around? 


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[RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread lungimsam

1. Ride quality: Keep the exhilirating, fast ride that flys down the road and 
pedals with ease. Jettison the bikes that feel slow and draggy and are hard to 
push down the road.

Or:

2. Function: Is one of the bikes best suited for the type of riding you do? Do 
you mostly ride off road? Mostly Tour? Want an all-rounder? Fast road bike? 
Upright city bike? Step through?, etc.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New White Industries ring design!

2015-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
Your wide narrow chainring has an even number of teeth.  You run whatever cog 
size you like, odd or even, still works

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Re: [RBW] Re: mafac raid brake

2015-03-07 Thread Aaron Young
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:19 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:

 It's a bit lost in the mists of time, but I think I bought the aero levers
 to replace older non aero levers, and that they seemed the same (except for
 being aero). Do you know when levers started having more mechanical
 advantage? Was that a Mafac versus others differentiator?


My understanding is that the more modern aero levers have more mechanical
advantage than the older non-aero style due to the position of the pivot in
the handle and direction of cable pull.  I've used both types and when set
up correctly had no complaints about braking, so maybe the
mechanical-advantage advantage isn't the biggest issue.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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[RBW] Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
Rene

Best wishes on your process, no matter how you proceed.

I recently picked up a 2005 Atlantis and went on my first forty miler 
yesterday.  It had me thinking: what do I need those other nine bikes for?

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[RBW] Re: Custom Riv on the Blug

2015-03-07 Thread Garth
It's my understanding that when the bike is simply labeled as a Rivendell 
it's a custom .   So while it may have some visual and/or unseen qualities 
similar to production models, it is it's own unique very custom make ! 

LoL .. shoulda used a better cable hanger for the front !   

In this case for some-one in India !  



On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 10:47:10 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Custom Bombadil? Appaloosa, maybe? Love the colors..this may be the most 
 beautiful Rivendell I've ever seen.

 http://rivbike.tumblr.com/


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Re: [RBW] Re: mafac raid brake

2015-03-07 Thread Joe Broach
At risk of veering off topic, I wish some clever producer would figure out
a Speedial variable leverage setup for road levers. There's so much
variation in brake MA, hand strength, and just personal preference, I think
it'd be a killer product. Even moreso now with road discs that could
generally use more lever pull. I've ridden all sorts of road setups, and
almost all of them had too much MA for my liking.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:19 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote:

 It's a bit lost in the mists of time, but I think I bought the aero
 levers to replace older non aero levers, and that they seemed the same
 (except for being aero). Do you know when levers started having more
 mechanical advantage? Was that a Mafac versus others differentiator?


 My understanding is that the more modern aero levers have more mechanical
 advantage than the older non-aero style due to the position of the pivot in
 the handle and direction of cable pull.  I've used both types and when set
 up correctly had no complaints about braking, so maybe the
 mechanical-advantage advantage isn't the biggest issue.

 Aaron Young
 The Dalles, OR

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[RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Definitely tough choices... it looks like each either had or still has 
special meaning that led you to have them in the first place but I get 
wanting to keep it at 2.  Seems like you've already gotten to the 
conclusion that the Atlantis is the #1 keeper, and Will's point about the 
two forks is a great one.  I still pine a bit for the 64cm Atlantis that 
was way to big for me... they do have some 'magic'.   

If it were me, and I was making the decision right now... I'd probably put 
all three others up for sale and see what the response is with a slight 
preference towards keeping the Foy as it is a clearly different bike and 
could be a longterm keeper (and isn't available anymore).  The Hilsen 
should fetch a good price and the Hunq w/ a low trail fork would intrigue 
alot of people.  Your can then cherry pick the best racks and accesories 
from the two that sell to make sure your Atlantis can be converted into any 
of its infinite incarnations.

On an unrelated note I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Pocket Lama in 
comparison to your full size bikes. I travel a bit for work and have been 
back and forth on whether a BF is a worthy investment. Feel free to hit me 
up off list if you want to keep this discussion on track.  Good luck!

Tony

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[RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread Garth
#4 a keeper for sure Rene.  The heart loves what the heart loves , and 
thankfully there is no existence of logic' in love ;-)

Is there anything greater than being footloose and fancy free ?





On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 9:16:10 PM UTC-5, René wrote:

 Hi all,

 For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of 
 bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional 
 challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious 
 to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating 
 which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. 

 Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within 
 this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list 
 the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking 
 price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel 
 free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I 
 also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating 
 whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with 
 my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride 
 alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. 
 Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv 
 bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I 
 travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want 
 to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs.

 Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present 
 configurations on my Flickr site: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/

 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the 
 Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that 
 would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 
 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc.

 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the 
 Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork 
 only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides.

 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom 
 since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just 
 fall in love with all over again.

 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders 
 that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it 
 immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I 
 envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of 
 my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it 
 myself, I couldn't let them trash it.

 Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel 
 like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both 
 the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still 
 have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. 

 There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to 
 build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree 
 of interest in any of them.

 Thank you,

 René 


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[RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread Surlyprof
René,

I'm sorry to hear of your situation.  Unfortunately, I don't ride your size 
so I can't make a sincere offer (both bummed and relieved about that).  I 
have to agree with the group, your Atlantis, although well-loved, is the 
one in the middle.  The Hunq could fill in for your Santa Cruz if you set 
it up for trails.  Seems like you have enough standover for that.  It would 
also provide study tour and s240 ability when you wanted it.  Besides, that 
custom silver/gray paint job is unique and stunning!  As for the Homer or 
the Betty, that would be a dilemma.  I've always loved the Hilson and would 
set one up for go fast-ish road riding.  But, if fast-ish road riding is of 
no interest, then hang on to the Betty.  It is unique and irreplaceable.  

Best of luck with such a tough decision.  I hope you do well with the ones 
you decide to sell and continue to love and enjoy the ones you decide to 
keep.

John
(For reference, I get my cycling range from a Soma MTB and a Hillborne with 
two sets of wheels.  One to cover tour/trail/country and the other for road 
riding)


On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 6:16:10 PM UTC-8, René wrote:

 Hi all,

 For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of 
 bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional 
 challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious 
 to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating 
 which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. 

 Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within 
 this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list 
 the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking 
 price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel 
 free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I 
 also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating 
 whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with 
 my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride 
 alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. 
 Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv 
 bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I 
 travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want 
 to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs.

 Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present 
 configurations on my Flickr site: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/

 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the 
 Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that 
 would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 
 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc.

 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the 
 Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork 
 only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides.

 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom 
 since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just 
 fall in love with all over again.

 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders 
 that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it 
 immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I 
 envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of 
 my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it 
 myself, I couldn't let them trash it.

 Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel 
 like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both 
 the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still 
 have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. 

 There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to 
 build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree 
 of interest in any of them.

 Thank you,

 René 


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[RBW] Re: Woolpower sizing?

2015-03-07 Thread Batwing
All,

I can't speak to the Half Zip but I have a pair of Large Long Underwear 
Botttoms (here we call them LJs) and they fit true to my 34in inseam and my 
34inch waist. I have zero negative things to add about the performance.  
They have been a blessing this winter, I wear them under knickers with wool 
socks and that's all I have needed all winter in Wisconsin. They breathe 
better than any other Merino I have previously owned.  A+ from this guy. 

http://www.eastdane.com/long-johns-200-woolpower/vp/v=1/1509194666.htm?folderID=33146colorId=10192

I am sure all of you are glad to now hear about it since Spring is around 
for most of you.   

Ryan in Madison, WI.

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 2:26:58 PM UTC-6, Zack wrote:

 how do the woolpower half zips fit?  

 particularly interested in the experience of any of you who are also 
 larger gentlemen.

 do you get the size you normally get in riv stuff?  or nope?  




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[RBW] Re: Ahearne/MAP All rounder Bars

2015-03-07 Thread Richard L.
I swapped from a 100mm/+17 degrees to a 110mm/+17 degrees stem when I went 
from Mark's drop bars to the Map/Ahearne bars, and did not change the 
spacer height (20mm).  I like the bars a lot, and with my increasing lack 
of flexibility am much more comfortable with the upright position.   
Suggest you get the wider MAP/Ahearne bars if you mount shifters and brakes 
on the bars.

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[RBW] Help identifying Nitto Albatross Material

2015-03-07 Thread Kevin Abbott
I have a Nitto Albatross Handlebar that I purchased quite a few years ago 
and I can't seem to remember if I bought the cromo or alu model. 

The only marking says NITTO I-Z.  I measured the width at 23 which is 
58cm. Is there any way they are NOT the alu version? I plan to sell them 
and I do not want to list them incorrectly.

thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: New White Industries ring design!

2015-03-07 Thread Roger


On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 3:56:58 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 ... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wide+narrow+chainringl=1You can't run 
 wide/narrow rings with multiple chainrings because if you shifted from one 
 to the other and didn't hit the right kind of tooth, the chain would skate 
 on the top, or fall off, or get a narrow gap wedged onto a wide tooth...


I've been trying to picture one thing: do the number of teeth of the 
chainring plus the cog need to add up to an even number so that the pattern 
of thick/thin teeth meeting the thick/thin chain doesn't reverse to 
thick/thin meeting the thin/thick every other time around? 

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Re: [RBW] Help identifying Nitto Albatross Material

2015-03-07 Thread cyclotourist
Put a magnet on it to find out.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Kevin Abbott kwillabb...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a Nitto Albatross Handlebar that I purchased quite a few years ago
 and I can't seem to remember if I bought the cromo or alu model.

 The only marking says NITTO I-Z.  I measured the width at 23 which is
 58cm. Is there any way they are NOT the alu version? I plan to sell them
 and I do not want to list them incorrectly.

 thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread Will
I say keep the Atlantis and the Hilsen. 

The Atlantis has two forks, so you've already created extra versitility. 
Plus there's Atlantis magic which is special. 

The Hilsen is so nicely set up I can't believe you'd let that go. Yes, I 
like the Foy, but the Hilsen is a true classic, a real heirloom bike. 

Between the Foy and the Hilsen, I'd be inclined to put upright bars on the 
Hilsen and give it a couple of months before choosing between the two. 

Will 


On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:16:10 PM UTC-6, René wrote:

 Hi all,

 For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of 
 bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional 
 challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious 
 to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating 
 which bikes to let go and which ones to keep. 

 Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within 
 this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list 
 the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking 
 price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel 
 free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I 
 also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating 
 whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with 
 my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride 
 alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. 
 Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv 
 bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I 
 travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want 
 to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs.

 Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present 
 configurations on my Flickr site: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/

 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the 
 Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that 
 would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 
 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc.

 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the 
 Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork 
 only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides.

 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom 
 since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just 
 fall in love with all over again.

 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders 
 that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it 
 immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I 
 envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of 
 my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it 
 myself, I couldn't let them trash it.

 Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel 
 like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both 
 the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still 
 have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. 

 There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to 
 build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree 
 of interest in any of them.

 Thank you,

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[RBW] Woolpower sizing?

2015-03-07 Thread M D Smith
I am a huge fan of the Woolpower half zips.  They are truly mithril-like:  
light as a feather and warm beyond their delicate-ness.

I find they fit true to size.  I am a larger fella and wear an XL.  You will 
find that you'll wear them every day and they do start to stretch out after a 
few weeks but washing them tightens them right back up. 

-Mike, slowly starting to thaw out in Htfd, CT

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Re: [RBW] Re: New White Industries ring design!

2015-03-07 Thread Matthew J
And especially nifty coming from White as most wide/narrow on the market 
are black and work with a limited number of cranks.  Now White crank fans 
can join the party.

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 7:11:43 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:

 Well. That's pretty nifty. Thanks, gentlemen! 

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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried the Yokozuna Reaction cables?

2015-03-07 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Where do you get those? LBS? They're not on the Riv site.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried the Yokozuna Reaction cables?

2015-03-07 Thread Ron Mc
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instantion=1espv=2ie=UTF-8#q=yokozuna+reactiontbm=shop

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:07:54 AM UTC-6, Tim wrote:

 Where do you get those? LBS? They're not on the Riv site.

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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried the Yokozuna Reaction cables?

2015-03-07 Thread Michael Hechmer
Changing the cables regularly is a better investment.  I broke a cable 
once, very far from home.  After that, on any bike I put a lot of miles 
started each season with new cables, a new chain and usually new tape and 
new tires.  Biking is better with peace of mind.

Michael 

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 12:54:04 PM UTC-5, John wrote:

 Hi, 

I was planning on putting Paul's canti's on my Hunq this weekend, and 
 was wondering it would be worth upgrading the cables.

 Has anyone tried the Yokozuna Reaction cables for brakes and/or shifters? 

 Any thoughts on using them with Alba bars?

 Are they worth the pocket change? Would you recommend different cables?

 Thanks,

 John 


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[RBW] Re: Anyone tried the Yokozuna Reaction cables?

2015-03-07 Thread Ron Mc
this is all about the housings - lower friction than any other made.  You 
can use any cables and cables Almost always break at the derailleur boss

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 6:01:29 AM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 Changing the cables regularly is a better investment.  I broke a cable 
 once, very far from home.  After that, on any bike I put a lot of miles 
 started each season with new cables, a new chain and usually new tape and 
 new tires.  Biking is better with peace of mind.

 Michael 

 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 12:54:04 PM UTC-5, John wrote:

 Hi, 

I was planning on putting Paul's canti's on my Hunq this weekend, and 
 was wondering it would be worth upgrading the cables.

 Has anyone tried the Yokozuna Reaction cables for brakes and/or shifters? 

 Any thoughts on using them with Alba bars?

 Are they worth the pocket change? Would you recommend different cables?

 Thanks,

 John 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread René Sterental
Thanks John, that's a very logical summary. And indeed, the Hunqapillar can
be turned into a trail bike. I guess one way to get started would be to
downsize to Hunqapillar, Homer  Betty and then continue from there.
Although when I look at what I'm likely to do in the next 5 years with
myself, keeping the Atlantis and the Betty (or the Hunqapillar and the
Betty) also looks quite sensible.

René

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Surlyprof jmcclu...@gmail.com wrote:

 René,

 I'm sorry to hear of your situation.  Unfortunately, I don't ride your
 size so I can't make a sincere offer (both bummed and relieved about
 that).  I have to agree with the group, your Atlantis, although well-loved,
 is the one in the middle.  The Hunq could fill in for your Santa Cruz if
 you set it up for trails.  Seems like you have enough standover for that.
 It would also provide study tour and s240 ability when you wanted it.
 Besides, that custom silver/gray paint job is unique and stunning!  As for
 the Homer or the Betty, that would be a dilemma.  I've always loved the
 Hilson and would set one up for go fast-ish road riding.  But, if fast-ish
 road riding is of no interest, then hang on to the Betty.  It is unique
 and irreplaceable.

 Best of luck with such a tough decision.  I hope you do well with the ones
 you decide to sell and continue to love and enjoy the ones you decide to
 keep.

 John
 (For reference, I get my cycling range from a Soma MTB and a Hillborne
 with two sets of wheels.  One to cover tour/trail/country and the other for
 road riding)


 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 6:16:10 PM UTC-8, René wrote:

 Hi all,

 For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of
 bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional
 challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious
 to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating
 which bikes to let go and which ones to keep.

 Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within
 this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list
 the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking
 price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel
 free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I
 also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating
 whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with
 my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride
 alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now.
 Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv
 bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I
 travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want
 to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs.

 Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present
 configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/
 photos/orthie251/sets/

 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep
 the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars
 that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel
 Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc.

 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the
 Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork
 only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides.

 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom
 since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just
 fall in love with all over again.

 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders
 that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it
 immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I
 envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of
 my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it
 myself, I couldn't let them trash it.

 Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I
 feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since
 both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I
 still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep.

 There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to
 build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree
 of interest in any of them.

 Thank you,

 René

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[RBW] Re: Woolpower sizing?

2015-03-07 Thread Matthew J
I'm a little under 6 foot and weigh ~160 lbs.  Medium fits fine.  Maybe a 
little long in the waist, but the arms are just right.

On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 2:26:58 PM UTC-6, Zack wrote:

 how do the woolpower half zips fit?  

 particularly interested in the experience of any of you who are also 
 larger gentlemen.

 do you get the size you normally get in riv stuff?  or nope?  




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Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread René Sterental
Nicely worded.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:

 #4 a keeper for sure Rene.  The heart loves what the heart loves , and
 thankfully there is no existence of logic' in love ;-)

 Is there anything greater than being footloose and fancy free ?






 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 9:16:10 PM UTC-5, René wrote:

 Hi all,

 For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of
 bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional
 challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious
 to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating
 which bikes to let go and which ones to keep.

 Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within
 this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list
 the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking
 price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel
 free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I
 also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating
 whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with
 my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride
 alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now.
 Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv
 bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I
 travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want
 to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs.

 Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present
 configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/
 photos/orthie251/sets/

 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep
 the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars
 that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel
 Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc.

 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the
 Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork
 only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides.

 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom
 since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just
 fall in love with all over again.

 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders
 that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it
 immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I
 envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of
 my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it
 myself, I couldn't let them trash it.

 Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I
 feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since
 both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I
 still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep.

 There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to
 build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree
 of interest in any of them.

 Thank you,

 René

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[RBW] Re: Street Clothes, Spandex or Other Bike Specific Clothing

2015-03-07 Thread 'Mark Etze' via RBW Owners Bunch

Ever since I switched to a Brooks saddle on longer rides I usually wear 
mountain bike shorts and a tee shirt. Anything less than 20 miles a I don't 
bother changing from my regular clothes.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread Evan E.
Hi René, 

How about Homer and Betty, then?

Evan E.
SF, CA

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 1:06:28 PM UTC-8, René wrote:

 When I ride the Hilsen, I feel like it should be my only bike. I can't 
 quite see myself with only the Betty, but as long as I don't do any 
 overnights, can see myself without the Atlantis or the Hunqapillar. But not 
 without both of them. OTOH, as someone else put it, the Atlantis and Homer 
 are very close to each other...




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Re: [RBW] Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread René Sterental
Thanks for the feedback!

My son's Tallboy is the aluminum regular travel and mine is the carbon LT.
They are so much fun to ride and I just love how they handle. But he isn't
riding it and in the past, would only ride with me if I insisted. He'd then
have a lot of fun, but never in his 16 year old life has he ever come to
ask for us to go on a ride. I thought that getting him a great bike would
increase the fun factor, which it did, but so far it's just not his thing.
What can i do? As long as I keep both, there's always the chance that he
might want to go mountain biking, but since I haven't mountain biked in
about a year and a half, the odds are pretty slim. It's just that as long
as I keep the bikes, there's hope. If I sell his, I might as well sell
mine, although I could eventually find a group to mountain bike with, I
guess. In two years he'll be going to college, so...

René

On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:32 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tough spot to be in, René. But trust me, I/we feel your pain... I think
 every couple months how I should sell a bike or two. So far, hasn't
 happened!

 As to your situation, I think your biggest overlap is with the Homer 
 'Lantis. Especially as you can only fit a 40mm tire on the latter. I would
 say let go of the Atlantis, keeping the Homer, Hunqapillar, and Betty. If
 you end up not using the Homer, that would be the next one to let go. Looks
 like Betty is getting used? I love step-throughs, so think it's great that
 you have one _if you use it_.

 The alternative is to substitute the Atlantis for the Homer in the above
 calculus.

 Tallboy regular or LT? I have a thing for Santa Cruz bikes, even though
 they're not MUSA.

 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:15 PM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of
 bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional
 challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious
 to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating
 which bikes to let go and which ones to keep.

 Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within
 this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list
 the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking
 price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel
 free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I
 also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating
 whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with
 my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride
 alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now.
 Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv
 bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I
 travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want
 to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs.

 Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present
 configurations on my Flickr site:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/

 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep
 the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars
 that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel
 Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc.

 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the
 Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork
 only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides.

 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom
 since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just
 fall in love with all over again.

 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders
 that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it
 immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I
 envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of
 my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it
 myself, I couldn't let them trash it.

 Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I
 feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since
 both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I
 still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep.

 There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to
 build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree
 of interest in any of them.

 Thank you,

 René

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Re: [RBW] Help identifying Nitto Albatross Material

2015-03-07 Thread Justin August
If you like it then you shoulda put a magnet on it.
-J-yonce

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 7:17:43 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Put a magnet on it to find out.

 On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Kevin Abbott kwill...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 I have a Nitto Albatross Handlebar that I purchased quite a few years ago 
 and I can't seem to remember if I bought the cromo or alu model. 

 The only marking says NITTO I-Z.  I measured the width at 23 which is 
 58cm. Is there any way they are NOT the alu version? I plan to sell them 
 and I do not want to list them incorrectly.

 thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread René Sterental
When I ride the Hilsen, I feel like it should be my only bike. I can't
quite see myself with only the Betty, but as long as I don't do any
overnights, can see myself without the Atlantis or the Hunqapillar. But not
without both of them. OTOH, as someone else put it, the Atlantis and Homer
are very close to each other...

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote:

 I say keep the Atlantis and the Hilsen.

 The Atlantis has two forks, so you've already created extra versitility.
 Plus there's Atlantis magic which is special.

 The Hilsen is so nicely set up I can't believe you'd let that go. Yes, I
 like the Foy, but the Hilsen is a true classic, a real heirloom bike.

 Between the Foy and the Hilsen, I'd be inclined to put upright bars on the
 Hilsen and give it a couple of months before choosing between the two.

 Will


 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:16:10 PM UTC-6, René wrote:

 Hi all,

 For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of
 bikes that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional
 challenge that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious
 to proceed, my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating
 which bikes to let go and which ones to keep.

 Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within
 this group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list
 the bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking
 price yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel
 free to do so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I
 also have two Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating
 whether to keep or sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with
 my son, but he's not that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride
 alone or find a group, which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now.
 Whether one or both stays has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv
 bikes down to two. Last, I also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I
 travel for a week on business, which isn't that often now, but which I want
 to keep for it's flexible use and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs.

 Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present
 configurations on my Flickr site: https://www.flickr.com/
 photos/orthie251/sets/

 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep
 the Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars
 that would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel
 Berthoud 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc.

 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the
 Atlantis, I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork
 only allows for a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides.

 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom
 since I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just
 fall in love with all over again.

 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders
 that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it
 immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I
 envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of
 my daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it
 myself, I couldn't let them trash it.

 Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I
 feel like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since
 both the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I
 still have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep.

 There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to
 build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree
 of interest in any of them.

 Thank you,

 René

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Re: [RBW] Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread René Sterental
I feel like that every time I ride one of them...

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rene

 Best wishes on your process, no matter how you proceed.

 I recently picked up a 2005 Atlantis and went on my first forty miler
 yesterday.  It had me thinking: what do I need those other nine bikes for?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread James Warren
If you go down to 2, Hunq and AHH.

If you go down to 3, Hunq and AHH and Betty.

The Atlantis is the perfect bike to have if you to settle on just one to do 
everything.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2015, at 1:06 PM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:

 When I ride the Hilsen, I feel like it should be my only bike. I can't quite 
 see myself with only the Betty, but as long as I don't do any overnights, can 
 see myself without the Atlantis or the Hunqapillar. But not without both of 
 them. OTOH, as someone else put it, the Atlantis and Homer are very close to 
 each other...
 
 On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote:
 I say keep the Atlantis and the Hilsen. 
 
 The Atlantis has two forks, so you've already created extra versitility. Plus 
 there's Atlantis magic which is special. 
 
 The Hilsen is so nicely set up I can't believe you'd let that go. Yes, I like 
 the Foy, but the Hilsen is a true classic, a real heirloom bike. 
 
 Between the Foy and the Hilsen, I'd be inclined to put upright bars on the 
 Hilsen and give it a couple of months before choosing between the two. 
 
 Will 
 
 
 On Friday, March 6, 2015 at 8:16:10 PM UTC-6, René wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 For almost a year, I've been facing the need to downsize the number of bikes 
 that I have for a number of personal reasons. It's an emotional challenge 
 that has me paralyzed, because while my rational mind is anxious to proceed, 
 my emotions get the best of me every time I start debating which bikes to let 
 go and which ones to keep. 
 
 Therefore, in the hopes of finding out what the interest would be within this 
 group before I post anything on Ebay or Craig's List, I want to list the 
 bikes I have and see who's interested in what. I have no idea of asking price 
 yet, but if you are interested and feel like making an offer, feel free to do 
 so. My goal is to go down from four Riv bikes to just two. I also have two 
 Santa Cruz Tallboy FS mountain bikes that I'm debating whether to keep or 
 sell, mainly because they only made sense to ride with my son, but he's not 
 that interested and if I sell his, I'd have to ride alone or find a group, 
 which doesn't seem to be a high priority right now. Whether one or both stays 
 has nothing to do with bringing the number of Riv bikes down to two. Last, I 
 also have a Bike Friday Lama that I use when I travel for a week on business, 
 which isn't that often now, but which I want to keep for it's flexible use 
 and because it's as fun to ride as the Rivs.
 
 Here are my four Riv bikes; you can see images of past and present 
 configurations on my Flickr site: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/
 
 1) Hunqapillar 58 with low trail fork and front/rear racks. I may keep the 
 Bosco Bullmoose handlebar currently on it, but have regular Bosco bars that 
 would likely go with it, or the regular Bullmoose handlebar. Steel Berthoud 
 60mm fenders, brand new custom paint job, etc.
 
 2) Atlantis 61 with low trail fork. Between the Hunqapillar and the Atlantis, 
 I think I'm leaning to keep the Atlantis. It's low trail fork only allows for 
 a maximum tire width of 40mm, and I love how it rides.
 
 3) Homer Hilsen 61, my very first Riv purchase and a bike I ride seldom since 
 I'm losing the weight loss battle for now, but when I ride it, I just fall in 
 love with all over again.
 
 4) Betty Foy 58 with 42mm 650B red Hetre tires and steel Berthoud fenders 
 that were an odyssey to install. I just love how this bike rides, it 
 immediately connects me to being a child and riding, and it's the bike I 
 envision I'd ride when I'm very old. I bought it with the idea that one of my 
 daughters would ride it, but they didn't care to and after I tried it myself, 
 I couldn't let them trash it.
 
 Sometimes I feel like keeping the Homer and the Atlantis, sometimes I feel 
 like keeping the Atlantis and the Betty. Sometimes I think that since both 
 the Atlantis and the Hunqapillar have the custom low trail forks (I still 
 have the original ones), those are the ones I should keep. 
 
 There you have it; apologies for the long post. I'm doing this mostly to 
 build my courage to post two of them for sale and get a feel for the degree 
 of interest in any of them.
 
 Thank you,
 
 René 
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[RBW] Coffee Outside Ride.

2015-03-07 Thread David Banzer
Inspired by the March challenge and some warmer weather here in Chicago, I 
got out for a nice indoor farmers market ride and made some coffee outside. 
It's been nice getting inspired to get out and ride everyday.
Rode my 650b converted Shogun setup as a porteur. The Bruce Gordon Rock n 
Road tires ride great and fit in the conversion, but are overkill as my 
daily riding rarely goes off pavement (I'm selling the RnR 650b tires if 
anyone is interested). 

Photos here: 
http://s821.photobucket.com/user/dabanzer/library/Coffee?sort=2page=1

Riv content: used a Trangia stove to get my water boiling.
David
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Coffee Outside Ride.

2015-03-07 Thread David Banzer
Tires I alluded to in this post are spoken for.
Thanks,
David

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 6:12:55 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:

 Inspired by the March challenge and some warmer weather here in Chicago, I 
 got out for a nice indoor farmers market ride and made some coffee outside. 
 It's been nice getting inspired to get out and ride everyday.
 Rode my 650b converted Shogun setup as a porteur. The Bruce Gordon Rock n 
 Road tires ride great and fit in the conversion, but are overkill as my 
 daily riding rarely goes off pavement (I'm selling the RnR 650b tires if 
 anyone is interested). 

 Photos here: 
 http://s821.photobucket.com/user/dabanzer/library/Coffee?sort=2page=1

 Riv content: used a Trangia stove to get my water boiling.
 David
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[RBW] Re: quote of the day

2015-03-07 Thread Deacon Patrick
Beautiful!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Help identifying Nitto Albatross Material

2015-03-07 Thread 'frank_a' via RBW Owners Bunch
 The aluminum model has a red circular sticker near the clamp area that 
reads heat treated, although perhaps that is missing from yours. The 
aluminum model is rather light and has a brighter finish than the chromoly 
which has more of a soft, satin finish.
 I concur with Joe B, the aluminum bar has hash marks at the clamping area, 
although they seem to disappear quickly if you change out the bars a few 
times.
 All of the Nitto/Rivendell albatross bars I have owned have a model number 
and a width designation at the end or ends of the bar. 

 - Frank

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 10:12:29 AM UTC-5, Kevin Abbott wrote:

 I have a Nitto Albatross Handlebar that I purchased quite a few years ago 
 and I can't seem to remember if I bought the cromo or alu model. 

 The only marking says NITTO I-Z.  I measured the width at 23 which is 
 58cm. Is there any way they are NOT the alu version? I plan to sell them 
 and I do not want to list them incorrectly.

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Re: [RBW] Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread René Sterental
Ha ha ha ha!!! Just when I thought I had settled on selling the Atlantis
first... and keeping the Hunqapillar. I would agree that if going down to
one bike that could do it all, the Atlantis would probably be it.

So far, I think that the options that make the most sense are:
- If keeping two, then Hunqapillar + Homer or Betty
- If keeping one, then the Atlantis makes sense.

I will still keep my Bike Friday Pocket Lama, steel (not lugged) and a lot
of fun to ride. It could easily replace the Betty, I think, which would
leave me with Hunqa + Homer + BF if I decide to go that route. Obviously,
Atlantis + BF would also work very well.

More thinking to do... and thanks for all your feedback and suggestions.
They have helped me put things in perspective.

I guess I will have to try riding the Atlantis with the Bosco bars before I
make that final call... Have ridden it with all other bars except for those.

René

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Justin August justin.aug...@icloud.com
wrote:

 I have to say - the Atlantis is like the Quickbeam. No one has ever said
 I'm so glad I sold either of them. You only hear of regret.

 Just my two cents. I say Atlantis + Foy

 -J

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[RBW] quote of the day

2015-03-07 Thread Pondero
Great story, well told.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: quote of the day

2015-03-07 Thread dougP
Don't you just love it when someone compliments you on your choice of an 
appropriate bicycle?  

dougP

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 6:43:08 PM UTC-8, ted wrote:

 yea, but that bike goes anywhere.

 So about 8 of us are standing at the bottom of welch creek (sf east bay 
 area) after regrouping. All but one with MCFRBs, me with my AHH.
 Somebody suggests going up welch creek before continuing out calaveras. I 
 say something like, yea go up and come down through the park (sunol ohlone 
 wilderness). The strong guy in the group protests that, no people just hike 
 there. I insist that sure you can ride down through the park, and that I 
 have done it before.
 To which he replies ...


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Re: [RBW] Re: Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread sameness
What he said. Atlantis whittled down to one, Hilsen and Hunq to split the 
difference, and dark horse Betty as the only bike you can't replace 
tomorrow with a phone call and a credit card.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 4:13:46 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:

 If you go down to 2, Hunq and AHH.

 If you go down to 3, Hunq and AHH and Betty.

 The Atlantis is the perfect bike to have if you to settle on just one to 
 do everything.


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[RBW] Re: WTB CB-0

2015-03-07 Thread Joe Bernard
I miss mine (which then became yours), too, Jason. There was a white one 
listed in the Sacramento area (Roseville?) for a while, but it seems to 
have dropped off Craigslist now. I* really* like the white CB-Zip. 

On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 2:38:10 PM UTC-8, Jason Leach wrote:

 Anyone have an old CB-0 laying around?  It is the one that got away 
 (twice actually) from me.  56cm.  

 longshot 

 Email me offlist.

 Thanks
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom Riv on the Blug

2015-03-07 Thread Patrick Moore
I doubt it. Customs start at $3,500 the last I heard, and that in Indian
terms is almost RS/- 2.2 lakhs, or almost 220K Rupees. That's frame, fork,
and headset. When I perused the all-India cycling discussion list, whose
name I now forget after having lost all my bookmarks, many of the posters
were asking what they could buy for, say, RS/-25K ... $400.

OTOH, there are so many more Indians nowadays who are cross-cultural,
pan-geographic, and whose finances are Western, and who import the latest
Carbon Fiber, so ... Still, those who can afford to  buy bikes expensive by
American standards are few indeed.

But here's a shot of a typical Indian with a double top tube!

[image: Inline image 1]

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 8:03 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wonder if there are lots of Indians who ride Rivendells...

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Re: [RBW] Re: mafac raid brake

2015-03-07 Thread ted
Minor update.
This morning I took a little time and got the toe in down to something 
approaching the amount I typically find works well on other brakes I have 
set up.
Rode up hill and down dale after that. The raid worked just fine. Lever 
travel is about what I like. No squealing (except one or two modest very 
low speed chirps). Braking power seemed fine to me. Controlled speed and 
stopped the bike just fine.
One caveat, I don't think I am a particularly demanding brake user. I've 
got no complaints about how the CR720s and R559s I have used perform. I 
gather some find those under powered and can't stand em, so as usual YMMV.

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 7:53:45 AM UTC-8, A. L Young wrote:


 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:19 PM, ted ted@comcast.net javascript: 
 wrote:

 It's a bit lost in the mists of time, but I think I bought the aero 
 levers to replace older non aero levers, and that they seemed the same 
 (except for being aero). Do you know when levers started having more 
 mechanical advantage? Was that a Mafac versus others differentiator?


 My understanding is that the more modern aero levers have more mechanical 
 advantage than the older non-aero style due to the position of the pivot in 
 the handle and direction of cable pull.  I've used both types and when set 
 up correctly had no complaints about braking, so maybe the 
 mechanical-advantage advantage isn't the biggest issue.  

 Aaron Young
 The Dalles, OR   


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[RBW] Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread murphyjrfk
Rene, tough choice and bummer. Your bikes are stunners-guess the best thing 
about that is however you proceed you still have two really awesome bikes.  

I will say I've bought and sold many a bikes-like a lot of us have- and the 
only two I have ever regretted selling were an Atlantis and a Surly Troll. I 
hopefully will buy another troll soon. But the Atlantis is out of the budget 
for now. But-man-is that a special bike.

However you go- best of luck to you. And I hope you enjoy the ride.

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[RBW] Downsizing and emotionally paralyzed...

2015-03-07 Thread Justin August
I have to say - the Atlantis is like the Quickbeam. No one has ever said I'm 
so glad I sold either of them. You only hear of regret. 

Just my two cents. I say Atlantis + Foy

-J

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[RBW] quote of the day

2015-03-07 Thread ted
yea, but that bike goes anywhere.

So about 8 of us are standing at the bottom of welch creek (sf east bay 
area) after regrouping. All but one with MCFRBs, me with my AHH.
Somebody suggests going up welch creek before continuing out calaveras. I 
say something like, yea go up and come down through the park (sunol ohlone 
wilderness). The strong guy in the group protests that, no people just hike 
there. I insist that sure you can ride down through the park, and that I 
have done it before.
To which he replies ...

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[RBW] Re: Help identifying Nitto Albatross Material

2015-03-07 Thread Joe Bernard
Are there black hash marks in the clamping area? My vague recollection is 
the alu version has them, the steel does not.

On Saturday, March 7, 2015 at 7:12:29 AM UTC-8, Kevin Abbott wrote:

 I have a Nitto Albatross Handlebar that I purchased quite a few years ago 
 and I can't seem to remember if I bought the cromo or alu model. 

 The only marking says NITTO I-Z.  I measured the width at 23 which is 
 58cm. Is there any way they are NOT the alu version? I plan to sell them 
 and I do not want to list them incorrectly.

 thanks!


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[RBW] Re: Custom Riv on the Blug

2015-03-07 Thread lungimsam
I wonder if there are lots of Indians who ride Rivendells...

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[RBW] FS 1990 Trek 520, 19 in

2015-03-07 Thread drew beckmeyer
so i was working on this bike as an introductory touringish bike for my 
girlfriend... then the complete Clem prototypes went on sale and now she 
has a little green protovelo, and is in love. (photos of that coming soon)
anyway, im looking to sell the 1990 trek 520 i was working on.  USA made, 
lugged, pearl white, true temper cr-mo frame/fork/stays. braze ons 
everywhere. 
it has:

albatross bars
vintage deore thumb shifters
vintage big dia compe levers
cork grips and shellacked bar tape

deore dx derailleurs

nos sugino lt triple crank
new pasela tour guard tires
new bottom bracket
new chain
new cables and housing
new leather (gyes) saddle
kickstand

the weird thing is the wheels, which are 27 inch. not stock. i guess at 
some point somebody swapped them out for the original 700c. i didnt notice 
until i tried to put tires on (bought it as a 
frame/fork/wheels/derailleurs). anyway, the brakes work fine with 27in or 
700c. clearances for 40mm tires or slightly bigger if 700c. rear spacing is 
132 for road or mtb hubs.
it has been cleaned, frame savered, lubed, greased etc. no dings or dents, 
but a moderate amount of beausage to the paint. ready to ride, but i put 
this together myself, so fine tuning by a more skilled hand would be 
beneficial. currently set up for the smallest person possible with a short 
stem and slammed seatpost. even then it was always gonna be slightly too 
big for my 5'3 girlfriend (76 pbh). i think this is more ideal for the 
78-84 pbh range. here is the trek info 1990 trek catalogue 
http://www.vintage-trek.com/TrekBrochure1990.htm#520

im about 500$ into it and i'd like to get that out of it. gonna go to ebay 
and craigslist, but i thought i'd see if anyone here was interested first. 
i have more pictures, if interested. located in Los angeles, but would be 
willing to have it shipped.

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[RBW] Re: quote of the day

2015-03-07 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Big smile! Nice.

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