Re: [RBW] No free electronic version of RR #44?

2016-02-05 Thread Daniel D.
well if they mention they're going to be free... :p On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 6:13:20 AM UTC-8, Doug Williams wrote: > > We can't expect to get them for free > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Shutter Precision PV-8 Dynamo (SP dyno) Hub 36h questions

2016-02-05 Thread Jim Bronson
What air pressure system? The SONDeluxe is sealed. I know of the old oil-can style hubs, in case of a sudden change in temperatures, could develop a pressure gradient and suck in moisture, but that was fixed in production many years ago. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Lungimsam

[RBW] Re: Rivs in the UK

2016-02-05 Thread Stuart Mackinnon

[RBW] Hello from Riv Owner Wales, UK

2016-02-05 Thread Stuart Mackinnon
Just wanted to say hi . Im stuart from swansea, Wales UK. I ride a sam hillborne which i love. Some pics attached for ya :0) Regards

[RBW] Re: Rivs in the UK

2016-02-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och, Stu! That western isle seascape always tugs my bones. (My ancestors are Welsh on my father's side, Argyle Peninsula on my mother's). Beautiful! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Shutter Precision PV-8 Dynamo (SP dyno) Hub 36h questions

2016-02-05 Thread Lungimsam
1. How ling 'til it has to be serviced? 2. Who can service it? Any LBS or have to mail to them? 3. Does it have that air pressure system like the SON deluxe hubs do? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

Re: [RBW] Re: "My first Roadeo" and chainline/BB question

2016-02-05 Thread Jim Bronson
I went on a 200K last month and unfortunately found out all the tubes I had taken with me that were new in the box were bad - the seams were not sealed. I run 650Bx38. Desperate to get down the road, someone loaned me a 700c tube. It's still in there several hundred miles later. Definitely not

Re: [RBW] No free electronic version of RR #44?

2016-02-05 Thread Joe Bernard
Doug, I'll dig around this weekend to see what paper copies I have. I think I've read them as many times as I'm going to, so I'll sell them for a reasonable fee if you're interested. I have stacks of catalogues, Flyers, and frame/bike brochures, too. -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Re: Any new hubs/technologies out there?

2016-02-05 Thread Matthew J
Mine was a permanent custom install. The frame builder did not mention any complications. Imagine there are some significant differences between the bolt on and braze on set up. The unit itself works well. German design in general tends toward fussy. On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:45:34 AM

Re: [RBW] Shutter Precision PV-8 Dynamo (SP dyno) Hub 36h questions

2016-02-05 Thread Eric Norris
>From what I’ve read, the SP hubs aren’t as nicely sealed as the SON. I think >the question about “air pressure” relates to the SON’s reputedly better >ability to deal with changing air pressure—you go from a warm house to a cold, >wet outdoor environment, and the air inside the hub contracts

[RBW] Re: "My first Roadeo" and chainline/BB question

2016-02-05 Thread RJM
Yeah, It will work but it just isn't ideal and 25's are easier to air up with a single CO2 cannister. It's worked for me on this bike so far...for the riding I'm doing on it. If I were doing more solo riding by myself with that bike I would have stuck with the Stampede Pass tires. As it is, I

[RBW] Wheel Set Price Drop $200

2016-02-05 Thread Matt Gilkey
Excellent wheelset I just never use it and want to see it go to a good home. 650b Wheel set: $200 shipped CONUS - Shimano Dura ace 7700 (I think) rear hub 8/9 speed 130mm. Ultegra front hub. 32 spokes for both. Generic Shimano quick release skewers. Pacenti PL23 650b rims. These are the

[RBW] Re: Grocery Run

2016-02-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Postal run with nine miles added for fun. Balmy day of 22 now, though 10˚F when I headed out. I love boiled wool! Mittens and sweater and cotton base layers. I do everything wrong. Grin. Swung by the post to pick up the Thunder Burts fresh from Germany for the lassies' Clementines (and a spare

Re: [RBW] Shutter Precision PV-8 Dynamo (SP dyno) Hub 36h questions

2016-02-05 Thread Anton Tutter
Eric is correct. The SON hubs have a "pressure compensation" system which prevents the hub from sucking in moisture through the bearings as the air in the void spaces inside the hub contract when the hub goes from a warm environment to a cold one, or vice versa. I don't believe any other dynamo

[RBW] Re: WTT / FS - Swift Industries, Cambium, Wool, Mavic shoes...more

2016-02-05 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
MORE Price drops: Docena: $220 Mavic shoes: $75 Barbour Waxed cotton: $200 Leather coat: $50 1991 Trek 990 frame: $200 + ship Miyata One Twelve frame: $150 + ship Link to pics -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] No free electronic version of RR #44?

2016-02-05 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Doug, I've got 1-39 on my hard drive. I'll look for the USB or I'd be happy to email the attachments. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Strada Rossa March 19th... you all are invited!

2016-02-05 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Finalizing some trails this weekend, but if it goes according to plan, the English century is going to be on the epic side. Approaching Leadville elevation numbers: - English Century: 104 miles (60 dirt) with 12,100' - Metric Century: 64 miles (32 dirt) with 6700' - M 1/2 Century: 36

Re: [RBW] Re: "My first Roadeo" and chainline/BB question

2016-02-05 Thread Tim Gavin
I don't do club riding, just solo or with friends. And my Roadeo will probably get picked occasionally for my commute (on dry days; the Roadeo will remain my sole un-fendered bike). So, I prefer a slightly wider tire. My dislike of being limited to 700 x 26 tires was a main reason for replacing

[RBW] Re: "My first Roadeo" and chainline/BB question

2016-02-05 Thread Chad
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 8:02:46 PM UTC-6, RJM wrote: > > I found the Compass Stampede Pass to be a better tire than the Jack Brown. > It felt noticeably quicker to me on the same wheelset and I might say more > comfortable. I didn't go wider than that though...and really, for the way

[RBW] Re: Any new hubs/technologies out there?

2016-02-05 Thread Mike Shaljian
I've had a new Velogical unit sitting in the box for months, mostly because the mounting bracket they include is absolutely horrendous. It seems like a great idea, but they could make the mounting much more user-friendly. Granted, it is especially difficult since I'm working with a Jones Truss

[RBW] Re: Hello from Riv Owner Wales, UK

2016-02-05 Thread Deacon Patrick
Welcome, Stu! Sam looks right at home over there! Beautiful country, Wales! With abandon, Patrick On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 8:35:34 AM UTC-7, Stuart Mackinnon wrote: > > Just wanted to say hi . Im stuart from swansea, Wales UK. I ride a sam > hillborne which i love. Some pics attached for

[RBW] Re: Hello from Riv Owner Wales, UK

2016-02-05 Thread WETH
Stu, Welcome and thanks for sharing the photos. I spent a few days in Pembroke years ago and enjoyed my time greatly. Some day I hope to visit Wales again. Erl On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 10:35:34 AM UTC-5, Stuart Mackinnon wrote: > > Just wanted to say hi . Im stuart from swansea, Wales UK.

[RBW] Re: Rivs in the UK

2016-02-05 Thread Ryan Fleming
Wow...nice bikesI love the green Condor...more pictures please On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 9:35:49 AM UTC-6, Stuart Mackinnon wrote: > > > > > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs in the UK

2016-02-05 Thread Patrick Moore
Croeso! (Or something like that.) What is all that green and west stuff? Yes please, more pictures. Patrick Moore, in high desert New Mexico, USA. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Stuart Mackinnon wrote: > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs in the UK

2016-02-05 Thread Patrick Moore
Just to ensure that all is disclosed: at least 3 people have told me they sold otherwise very nice Rivendells because the top tubes were too long. These were road-type bikes meant for drop bars (Sam Hill was one, the earlier Road Standards and -- perhaps -- LongLow -- another). And I was another,

Re: [RBW] Re: "My first Roadeo" and chainline/BB question

2016-02-05 Thread RJM
I rode Pari Motos on my Sam Hillborne and found them to be great. They didn't last as long as something like the Fatty Rumpkin, but man they felt great. All that air volume and a supple tire is just wonderful. One of the reasons I love the Roadeo is because I can use wider tires if I want to

Re: [RBW] No free electronic version of RR #44?

2016-02-05 Thread Scott Henry
Not from what I've heard yet. Gotta make the dollars I guess. Scott On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 2:32 AM, eliu01 wrote: > At http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rr.htm and, I think, in older posts > here Grant said that starting with RR #42 that future issues would be > available for

[RBW] Re: Any new hubs/technologies out there?

2016-02-05 Thread Matthew J
At the onset you may need to fuss with Velogicals more than other options, but they work well, are light, and allow you to use whatever hub your prefer. On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 12:45:00 AM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote: > > I have a Sondeluxewidebody but

Re: [RBW] No free electronic version of RR #44?

2016-02-05 Thread Doug Williams
I don't mind paying for them. We can't expect to get them for free when Riv puts so much time and work into them. I just wish they had 1-39 on USB in stock. I've been waiting for a while now. I have all the later issues, but I wish I had "the early years". Doug On Friday, February 5, 2016 at

[RBW] Re: "My first Roadeo" and chainline/BB question

2016-02-05 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
That puts you in a rare club, abandoning Compass 32s for Continental 25s! FWIW, with a total difference of 7mm, pretty much any 700C tube will get you home no problem. On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 10:02:59 AM UTC-5, RJM wrote: > > Last year I went from the 32mm Compass Stampede to 25mm

[RBW] Re: Ride to Indian Restaurant/Lost my bike computer!!!

2016-02-05 Thread Ron Mc
sounds like a tough ride to me. My buddy lost his iPhone6 last month, located what was left of it with the ping and was able to get it repaired. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: "My first Roadeo" and chainline/BB question

2016-02-05 Thread Don Compton
A lot of you guys are using fairly large tires. I have been happy with the 28 Grand Bois for years. I tried Compass 32's ( not extra light ) and my bike felt sluggish. Just a thought On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 at 10:51:22 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote: > > I received the 59 cm Roadeo frame from

Re: [RBW] Shutter Precision PV-8 Dynamo (SP dyno) Hub 36h questions

2016-02-05 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/05/2016 08:47 PM, Joe Broach wrote: ​ On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Bill Lindsay > wrote: People don't service them. The hub was designed for 50,000km with zero service. Bike shops can't service them. You can send the

Re: [RBW] No free electronic version of RR #44?

2016-02-05 Thread Joe Bernard
To quote a Peter Frampton song y'all don't know but should, everything's changing all the time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs in the UK

2016-02-05 Thread William deRosset
Dear Patrick, That pattern was part of the Rivendell/Heron/late Bridgestone appeal. Grant's designs for road-going machines featured long-ish top tubes and (offsetting) slack-ish seat angles--perfect for the long of arm and femur. It was a common trope at the time that women tended to hate

Re: [RBW] Shutter Precision PV-8 Dynamo (SP dyno) Hub 36h questions

2016-02-05 Thread Daniel Jackson
How often do folks service SON28s? On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 2:18:48 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote: > > Eric is correct. The SON hubs have a "pressure compensation" system which > prevents the hub from sucking in moisture through the bearings as the air > in the void spaces inside the hub

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs in the UK

2016-02-05 Thread Patrick Moore
It was, but I've heard complaints about it by at least one *very* experienced cyclist ("9,000 miles last year; it was a bad year...") and, IIRC, but I won't insist on it, by a *very* experienced frame builder. I've read "The Top Tube Ruse" or whatever it was, and agree it has some validity, but

Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs in the UK

2016-02-05 Thread Don Compton
Patrick, My Roadeo has a 58.2 tt, long for a 59( 57ctc) frame set. But the seat tube has a 72deg angle. It's the equivalent of a 73 deg seat tube with a shorter tt. I just us a Thomson 0 setback seat post and everything works. Grant's seat tube angles accomodate Brooks saddles. Don On Friday,

Re: [RBW] Shutter Precision PV-8 Dynamo (SP dyno) Hub 36h questions

2016-02-05 Thread Joe Broach
​ On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > >> People don't service them. The hub was designed for 50,000km with zero > service. Bike shops can't service them. You can send the hub back to > Germany for service. The hub needs to be removed from the wheel for

Re: [RBW] Shutter Precision PV-8 Dynamo (SP dyno) Hub 36h questions

2016-02-05 Thread Bill Lindsay
On Friday, February 5, 2016 at 4:53:19 PM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > How often do folks service SON28s? > > People don't service them. The hub was designed for 50,000km with zero service. Bike shops can't service them. You can send the hub back to Germany for service. The hub needs

Re: [RBW] Re: OT slightly: DCBR: DC Bike Ride May 22, 2016

2016-02-05 Thread Eunice Chang
I might actually brave the train ride from NC for this one now that Amtrak allows bikes on trains. Sign me up (tentatively) for a Riv contingent (if there's one). -E. On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Ryan Thompson wrote: > I plan on riding with my wife and kids.

[RBW] Re: No free electronic version of RR #44?

2016-02-05 Thread dougP
With all the costs that go into a small run of printing I'm happy to pay. Just reading Grant's musings, the various topics he pokes into, updates on where Rivendell is headed, etc., I figure I get at least double my money back in entertainment value alone. Remember, while you may not always