[RBW] Re: XT front derailleur with Sugino XD2 triple on a Hunqapillar?

[Joe Bernard]

I have the Claris on my Appaloosa. It's not pretty, but it works so well that 
I've started to love its functional not-prettiness. Once I have it centered 
over a chosen chainring, I can shift the whole range of the cassette with 
hardly any front trimming. 

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[RBW] Crankset snafu and front derailleur conundrum

[Garth]

It will work just fine. FD specs are not absolute in any way, they speak more 
to the group of componenents they are intended to work with than a rule of some 
sort.  I have used a 105 double with 24/44/48 and 26/36/50 no prob at all.  

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[RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed

[Ian A]

I just keep reading the subject line as "Silent Bell Needed". So I did a 
Google search in that vein and was directed to a page about "the sounds of 
five Buddhist temple bells in Kyoto, Japan when they are not ringing"

http://echosounddesign.com/media/HIgashi_Honganji.mp3
https://bolesblogs.com/2011/06/01/what-is-the-sound-of-a-silent-bell/

Not exactly on topic, but it somehow fits with the Deacon's wonderful 
spirituality, so I thought I should share it.

Ian A/Canada.


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>
> Bells are designed to reverberate. They take the vibration of a ride, even 
> when not intended to be rung, and “hum.” Anyone have suggestions for the 
> most silent, stealth bell you’ve experienced, there when you need it, 
> uterly silent when you don't? 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
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> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
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[RBW] FS: Giordana 57 road frame, Nitto Campee lowrider, Stronglight 99, Campy BB, and more!

[Tim Gavin]

I have various items for sale, plus actual shipping cost via BikeFlights.  
Located in Cedar Rapids, IA.  

San Marcos, racks, and bags sold!  Updated list, lower prices!

1) 57 cm Giordana XL-Eco road stage race frame/fork/headset, $225. 
Exceedingly light lugged steel frame of thin-wall, heat-treated Excell steel; 
it definitely planed for me.  Springy, but not noodly.  I'm selling the frame 
because it's too small for me.
Designed by Dario Pegoretti, handmade in Italy by Billato Bros in the mid-90s.
Some description and geometry here.
However, this frame only clears a 700 x 26 or 650 x 36 tire.
Plenty of small chips, scuffs, and scratches (especially in the decals), but no 
dents. 
Downtube cable stops are included, but the knobs are corroded.
90s vintage Shimano XTR headset included
Pictures here: http://s1060.photobucket.com/user/Tim_Gavin/library/Giordana

2) 32h 700c Mavic Open Pro/Shimano Tricolor 600 wheelset, $140.  

5) Stronglight 99 triple crankset, with Campagnolo Record loose ball BB, $90.  
170 mm crankarm length, standard English pedal and extractor threads!  86 mm 
BCD.
Campagnolo Record loose ball BB cups, Stronglight 125 mm triple spindle. ~150 
mm Q factor.
52t, 42t, and 30t Stronglight rings with little wear but some dirt and scuffing.
These vintage French cranks have very low Q, but there is little clearance 
between the big ring and the straight crankarm.  A front derailleur with a 
scuplted outer cage (most modern triple FDs) will hit the arm.  I recommend a 
vintage FD with a flat outer cage plate; it friction shifted great with an '80s 
Suntour Cyclone FD.

6) Nitto 185 drop handlebar, $35.  42 cm width, 26.0 mm clamp, 82 mm reach, 140 
mm drop.  Classic curve.  Not too scratched, but with plenty of bar tape 
residue.
These are not the currently-produced "neat" model; the "neat" model has cable 
grooves that this bar lacks.  

7) Full Speed Ahead (FSA) New Ergo drop handlebars, $20. 46 cm width, 31.8 mm 
clamp, 80 mm reach, 150 mm drop.  New, ergo D-shaped curve, works great with 
STI/Ergo brifters.  VG shape with only a little bar tape residue.

8) Velo Orange Retro Mk1 bottle cages, $6 each.  Good shape, but I prefer King 
Iris cages.


Thanks for your interest!
Tim Gavin,
Cedar Rapids, IA

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[RBW] Crankset snafu and front derailleur conundrum

[Zach Duval]

I ordered a SUNXCD double crankset through a European dealer for a new build, 
and unfortunately they included a 28 tooth chainring in place of the 30 I 
ordered. The large chainring is a 46, so this now leaves me with an 18 tooth 
gap rather than 16. 

Are there any attractive front derailleurs that can handle that range? 

I'm hoping to run the Riv Bullmoose bars with Microshift (I believe) bar ends 
on thumbies.

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[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

[cyclotourist]

You've been avoiding it for too long! Might have to start sweeping out the
shed to accommodate all these out of towners!

del Rio, check!
Smitham, check!
Warren, check!
The Other Smitham, check!

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 7:56 PM, Bruce Smitham  wrote:

> I'll take floor space if there is any left. I gotta do this ride whether
> I'm traveling around that month or not.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Bruce Smitham
> Senior California Area Manager
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>
> On Dec 29, 2016, at 6:41 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> del Rio, check!
> Smitham, check!
>
> Lots of floor space, sofa goes to the person traveling the furthest (maybe
> from PDX...!)! We'll check Strava to see who wins!
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Esteban del Rio 
> wrote:
>
>> Sofa space reservation requested for Herr. del Rio!
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016, cyclotourist 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm glad I've got your attention now!!! :-)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM, ted  wrote:
>>>
 Ah, I see now. Pls disregard my previous enquiry.


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>
> Registration for the ride is Jan 1... registration for sofa space is a
> different story! Glad you got a spot!
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:31 PM, 'Mike Schiller' via SoCal All
> Rounders (SCAR)  wrote:
>
>> huh?  I thought registration didn't open until Jan 1st???
>>
>> mike
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 7:28:16 PM UTC-8, cyclotourist
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's getting full, claim your spot while you can!!!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Hugh Smitham 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Planning on it! Do I have a spot at Chez Estes?

 On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 11:02:18 PM UTC-7,
 cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Calendared it for March 18th!
>
> http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2016/09/march-18-2
> 017.html
>
> Hope to see some familiar faces this spring!
>
>
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[RBW] Re: XT front derailleur with Sugino XD2 triple on a Hunqapillar?

[Bob B]

Jack, Thanks for posting this thread. I've been doing a ton of annoying 
trimming on my 58cm Hunq, on which I'm running a 9spd chain and an XT FD, 
though I'm using Silver bar-ends. Some of the comments here are making me 
want to switch to an 8spd fd. I've seen a hunq built up the same way by Riv 
with a Claris fd, which is 8spd, so I'm guessing if they've done it, it 
works!

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[RBW] Re: Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

[Joe Bernard]

That's correct, Franklyn, 26" wheels are becoming relegated to low-end mountain 
bikes and cruisers. For tires smaller than 700c, 650b/27.5 looks like the 
future. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed/Using a bell

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

On the other hand, the voices in my head may be drowning out the hum of the 
bell :-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed/Using a bell

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I think I'm fairly sensitive to extra noise on my bike. I have Crane bells from 
Riv and I have not noticed any hum or jingle to them while riding on rough 
roads or on the little bit of gravel I ride. I'd give them a try. 

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[RBW] Re: Musa Mitts

[Deacon Patrick]

Depending on temps your dealing with there are a number of alternatives, 
all of them some combination of gloves and overmits. Look for chopper 
mitts, a leather overmitt. Those combined with your riding gloves may do 
you pretty well. If you need more warmth, just wear wool gloves instead of 
your riding gloves.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 6:54:21 PM UTC-7, A CT Cyclist wrote:
>
> I really wanted a pair, but they sold out before I could order a pair. And 
> now they are forever no more.  I searched the internet for some sort of 
> over mitten that I could slip on over my hi-viz gloves when needed but alas 
> my search has been fruitless. Anybody want to sell their Musa Mitts?
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

[franklyn]

26" tires are plentiful, but 650b/27.5 tires, especially dirt ones, are no 
longer a scarcity. All the major tire makers have multiple lines for multiple 
uses. I was on a online retailer's website and there was more than 150 
different options. And they don't make some newer fancy tires in 26" anymore. 
For example, schwalbe's new Big One/S One tires, which are either 60 or 70mm 
wide, weighs less than 600g per, and have low rolling resistance, are only 
available in 29" and 27.5. 

Just saying

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[RBW] Re: Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

[Kieran J]

Well, I fit up the Tara this evening to see how it looked - not bad! I used 
some P-clamps I had on hand, and it's actually quite solid - if a little 
crooked.

I don't have any good panniers but I may rig up some crummy old ones that I 
tossed in the garage a while back. And then wait til spring to try it out!

KJ





On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Hope everyone is having a nice holiday season!
>
> I'm curious about how the Rambouillet handles with different configs of a 
> front load. I've only ever really used a small Swift Bandito up on the 
> handlebar, but never anything more substantial. 
>
> Have any Ram owners ever: 
>
>- somehow run low-rider panniers on the stock fork?
>- run low-rider panniers and an additional front bag on the stock fork?
>- had success with an aftermarket fork with a different trail figure?
>
> Long story, I'm thinking of having a couple mods done to my Ram and new 
> powder done (the Creamsicle is cool, but doesn't match anything - 
> especially not all the red clothing I have). I would consider adding 
> mid-fork eyelets if running front low-riders appears to work well for the 
> bike.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kieran
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

[cyclotourist]

Hecks yeah! Bring it on!!! What's up with those brothers of yours
Direct them to points south!

del Rio, check!
Smitham, check!
Warren, check!

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:46 PM, James Warren 
wrote:

>
> May I have a floor spot?
>
> But if some northerners coming down need a spot, I'll yield.
>
> I did talk it up with Manny and Kurt Manley today. (The RSR ride, not
> chateau Estes)
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 29, 2016, at 6:41 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> del Rio, check!
> Smitham, check!
>
> Lots of floor space, sofa goes to the person traveling the furthest (maybe
> from PDX...!)! We'll check Strava to see who wins!
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Esteban del Rio 
> wrote:
>
>> Sofa space reservation requested for Herr. del Rio!
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016, cyclotourist 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm glad I've got your attention now!!! :-)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM, ted  wrote:
>>>
 Ah, I see now. Pls disregard my previous enquiry.


 On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 7:34:08 PM UTC-8,
 cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Registration for the ride is Jan 1... registration for sofa space is a
> different story! Glad you got a spot!
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:31 PM, 'Mike Schiller' via SoCal All
> Rounders (SCAR)  wrote:
>
>> huh?  I thought registration didn't open until Jan 1st???
>>
>> mike
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 7:28:16 PM UTC-8, cyclotourist
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's getting full, claim your spot while you can!!!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Hugh Smitham 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Planning on it! Do I have a spot at Chez Estes?

 On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 11:02:18 PM UTC-7,
 cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Calendared it for March 18th!
>
> http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2016/09/march-18-2
> 017.html
>
> Hope to see some familiar faces this spring!
>
>
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> David
>
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>
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Re: [RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

[James Warren]

May I have a floor spot?

But if some northerners coming down need a spot, I'll yield.

I did talk it up with Manny and Kurt Manley today. (The RSR ride, not chateau 
Estes)


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2016, at 6:41 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> 
> del Rio, check!
> Smitham, check!
> 
> Lots of floor space, sofa goes to the person traveling the furthest (maybe 
> from PDX...!)! We'll check Strava to see who wins!
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Esteban del Rio  wrote:
>> Sofa space reservation requested for Herr. del Rio!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016, cyclotourist  
>>> wrote:
>>> I'm glad I've got your attention now!!! :-)
>>> 
 On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM, ted  wrote:
 Ah, I see now. Pls disregard my previous enquiry.
 
 
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 7:34:08 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> Registration for the ride is Jan 1... registration for sofa space is a 
> different story! Glad you got a spot!
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:31 PM, 'Mike Schiller' via SoCal All Rounders 
>> (SCAR)  wrote:
>> huh?  I thought registration didn't open until Jan 1st???
>> 
>> mike
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 7:28:16 PM UTC-8, cyclotourist wrote:
>>> It's getting full, claim your spot while you can!!!
>>> 
 On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Hugh Smitham  
 wrote:
 Planning on it! Do I have a spot at Chez Estes?
 
> On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 11:02:18 PM UTC-7, 
> cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
 
> Calendared it for March 18th!
> 
> http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2016/09/march-18-2017.html
> 
> Hope to see some familiar faces this spring!
> 
> 
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> David
> 
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> 
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[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

[cyclotourist]

del Rio, check!
Smitham, check!

Lots of floor space, sofa goes to the person traveling the furthest (maybe
from PDX...!)! We'll check Strava to see who wins!

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Esteban del Rio  wrote:

> Sofa space reservation requested for Herr. del Rio!
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016, cyclotourist 
> wrote:
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>> I'm glad I've got your attention now!!! :-)
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM, ted  wrote:
>>
>>> Ah, I see now. Pls disregard my previous enquiry.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 7:34:08 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:

 Registration for the ride is Jan 1... registration for sofa space is a
 different story! Glad you got a spot!

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 (SCAR)  wrote:

> huh?  I thought registration didn't open until Jan 1st???
>
> mike
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 7:28:16 PM UTC-8, cyclotourist
> wrote:
>>
>> It's getting full, claim your spot while you can!!!
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Hugh Smitham 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Planning on it! Do I have a spot at Chez Estes?
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 11:02:18 PM UTC-7,
>>> cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Calendared it for March 18th!

 http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2016/09/march-18-2
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[RBW] Re: [socalallrounders] 2017 Redlands Strada Rossa

[Esteban del Rio]

Sofa space reservation requested for Herr. del Rio!

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016, cyclotourist 
wrote:

> I'm glad I've got your attention now!!! :-)
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:39 PM, ted  > wrote:
>
>> Ah, I see now. Pls disregard my previous enquiry.
>>
>>
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>>>
>>> Registration for the ride is Jan 1... registration for sofa space is a
>>> different story! Glad you got a spot!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 7:31 PM, 'Mike Schiller' via SoCal All Rounders
>>> (SCAR)  wrote:
>>>
 huh?  I thought registration didn't open until Jan 1st???

 mike

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>
> It's getting full, claim your spot while you can!!!
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Hugh Smitham 
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>
>> Planning on it! Do I have a spot at Chez Estes?
>>
>> On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 11:02:18 PM UTC-7,
>> cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Calendared it for March 18th!
>>>
>>> http://redlands-strada-rossa.blogspot.com/2016/09/march-18-2017.html
>>>
>>> Hope to see some familiar faces this spring!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: NEW BIKE DAY!

[Joe Gates]

Congrats on the new bike!  The build looks great. please share more photos and 
a ride report once you have a chance to put some miles on it. 

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Re: [RBW] Red Rosco

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

It is a nice color indeed.  I have stared at those pictures many times!



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> This frame doesn't seem to get much chatter here but I'm guessing that is
> due to the size.  I like the looks and design of this one
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[RBW] Musa Mitts

[A CT Cyclist]

I really wanted a pair, but they sold out before I could order a pair. And 
now they are forever no more.  I searched the internet for some sort of 
over mitten that I could slip on over my hi-viz gloves when needed but alas 
my search has been fruitless. Anybody want to sell their Musa Mitts?

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[RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Ian A]

Lum Gim Fong:

Out of idle curiosity, what clearance to you have laterally at the fork and 
chain-stay with the 42mm tires?  

Ian A/Canada



On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 5:15:10 PM UTC-7, lum gim fong wrote:
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> On my 54 Blue Rambouillet:
>
> 700x32 Compass tires gave me *.*7cm between tire and fender at fork 
> crown. Too close for comfort!
>
> 700x28 Compass tires gave me 1*.*1cm - still too close!
>
> So I 650b converted the bike. Also for safety and comfort of wide tires.
>
> Compass 650b x 42  tires and I have about *2cm* between fender and tire 
> under the fork crown.
> I now have air space between the tires and fenders!!!
> And the bike is the same bb height now as my Bleriot!!! 
>
>
>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Joe Bernard]

I totally agree with making your Ram a fair weather road double. You'll never 
get it to 16 lbs. like a plastic wunderbike, but it'd be fun to have a Riv with 
all extraneous STUFF removed. Go for it!

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[RBW] Re: Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

[Joe Bernard]

My Clem had 26" wheels, the Appaloosa 650b. I prefer the latter, it's a 
smoother ride that still yields nice turn-in.

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[RBW] Re: Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I just started riding a bike with 48cm+ chainstays and so far, I'm liking 
it a lot.  A Clem frameset is sounding better and better but I'm still on 
the fence about 650B wheels.  I really, really like the handling of 26" 
wheels and there are far more tire choices for 26". 


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> So a few weeks back The Wheelhouse los angeles posted on their facebook 
> page that they had some Clems, Appas, and Sams in stock. So I though Howdee 
> I live close enough to there to grab a quick look. And there is a pretty 
> decent ramen shop near by score twofer! Also to be completely honest the 
> new bike bug has been biting a bit. Anyhow I stopped by to check out the 
> bikes, the clem that was my size 52 had already been sold and I have owned 
> a Sam so I was offered a test ride on the Appa. It was a size to small but 
> they got things close enough for me to take it for a spin...and well WOW 
> was I surprised! Not that I should have been per say but I was. Two words 
> Smooth and responsive! Like a Caddie with Porsche handling! Also loved the 
> choco moose bars that were on there. The forward hand position felt really 
> good to me and natural better than that of the Albas for compairson. So as 
> for the crow I've been a bit of a poopooer on the whole long CS thing. Not 
> in any major way but based on my experience with a particular bike. Now I 
> don't know if the feeling I got was because of the smaller frame or bar 
> position or simply because it was a parking lot test ride and the bike is 
> STUNNING! But man was I impressed. So much so I whent ahead and ordered a 
> Clem. Not the appa I know but I had sold a few bikes recently and thats 
> what I had the scratch for. Still might be an appa in my future as an 
> upgrade from clem if need be. Anyway when the Clem arrives I sure hope I 
> have the same experience all over again and get to eat a great big giant 
> Clem Smith / long CS CROW pie!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[dougP]

Chris:

Excellent decision.  There have been way too many comments on this forum 
from those who've sold a Rivendell, then find out how badly they miss the 
bike.  A few changes like those mentioned & it will seem like a new bike.

dougP

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 3:10:15 PM UTC-8, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
> Well, I had a few people who were seriously interested, but things didn't 
> work out for various reasons. I going to keep the Ram for now. Maybe give 
> it a makeover in the spring, loose the fenders and swap the triple for a 
> double, and switch to some bigger, lighter tires.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC-5, Christopher Cote wrote:
>>
>> I have an orange 58cm Rambouillet. I realize that I rode it twice in 
>> 2016. Even less the previous 3-4 years. It's painful to consider selling 
>> because it's the most comfortable, nicest riding, and beautiful road bike 
>> I've ever ridden. However, I'm mostly an off-road or city rider these days. 
>> So, I'd sell the frame/fork/headset for $800 plus shipping. I would 
>> consider selling it with some or all of the parts, but boxing up the 
>> complete bike and shipping it gives me cold sweats, so we'll have to figure 
>> something out there if you want it complete. Local pickup would be even 
>> better. I'm in southern Maine. I could probably arrange to meet a buyer in 
>> most Northern New England locations.
>>
>> It has Ultegra derailleurs, brakes, hubs, and headset.
>> Dura Ace downtube shifters.
>> Shimano aero levers.
>> 170mm TA Alize triple crank with 24 (I think), 38, and 48 tooth rings and 
>> an Axix bottom bracket.
>> Avocet Fasgrip 700x25 tires. That should tell you how little it's been 
>> ridden in the last decade.
>> Nitto B115 bars and unknown Nitto stem.
>> Brooks Pro saddle and CLB seatpost with a lot of offset.
>> Mavic MA something anodized rims.
>> SKS fenders.
>> Speedplay Frog pedals, but I'll probably want to keep them.
>> Cages, pump, and seat bag will be moved to the next bike.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
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>>
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[RBW] Re: NEW BIKE DAY!

[Kellie]

First ride outside (been on a trainer) since hand surgery.




On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 2:59:52 PM UTC-8, Kellie wrote:
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> Two months in the queue at Waterford; just finished the build.
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Cheviot Complete

[Daniel Jackson]

Smart move. I highly recommend the ti fork upgrade when you save up for it. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[lum gim fong]

On my 54 Blue Rambouillet:

700x32 Compass tires gave me *.*7cm between tire and fender at fork crown. 
Too close for comfort!

700x28 Compass tires gave me 1*.*1cm - still too close!

So I 650b converted the bike. Also for safety and comfort of wide tires.

Compass 650b x 42  tires and I have about *2cm* between fender and tire 
under the fork crown.
I now have air space between the tires and fenders!!!
And the bike is the same bb height now as my Bleriot!!! 


 

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[RBW] Wheelsets on Baltimore Clist 650b and 700c

[lum gim fong]

650b and 700c

Admittedly mine. But thought someone here could use them. Total Rivvy 
wheelsets.

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/bop/5900240768.html

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/bop/5937570789.html

99$ off for the 700c set for listers

30$ off for the 650b set for listers

Will ship if desired and buyer pays shipping.

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[RBW] Red Rosco

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Has anyone built up a 51cm Red Rosco and have photos they could share?  This 
frame doesn't seem to get much chatter here but I'm guessing that is due to the 
size.  I like the looks and design of this one

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Re: [RBW] IQ-X Headlight

[Peter White]

I'm not using the stock mount either. Here's my setup.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/peter_bks.php

PJW

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> Right. I have one of my IQ-Xs mounted on a metal fork crown mount from
> another light. The other is mounted to a dedicated mounting point on a
> front rack. I haven’t used the factory-supplied IQ-X bracket.
>
> --Eric Norris
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>
> On Dec 29, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Peter White  wrote:
>
> Perhaps. But that part hasn't changed either. It's also made of the same
> polybrimolated plasticky stuff that seems to be quite tough.
>
> Hmm, polybrimolation. Sounds technical!
>
> PJW
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
>
>> I think the writer was referring to the metal bracket that fastens to the
>> bike, not the plastic part that wraps around the body of the light.
>>
>> FWIW, I haven’t had any troubles with the IQ-X lights I’ve installed on
>> two different bikes. The plastic part seems plenty strong, given that the
>> unit itself is very lightweight.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyonly...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Peter White  wrote:
>>
>> We received a shipment of IQ-X just two weeks ago. I just checked one
>> from that shipment. There's been no change to the mount.
>>
>> Peter White
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:
>>
>>> Your IQ-X has a metal mounting bracket? I wonder if they changed the
>>> design from the first production units. Mine (an early one) has a one-piece
>>> split plastic mounting ring with plastic tabs. Can you take a picture of
>>> yours?
>>>
>>> Anton
>>> velolumino.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 2:21:32 PM UTC-5, William deRosset
>>> wrote:

 The lens/reflector cover is plastic. If it is like the Cyo lenses, it
 will survive winter fine. It will eventually get scratched and yellow from
 environmental exposure. However, a headlight restoration kit from the auto
 parts store will fix it right up, based on my experience with the Ixon and
 Cyo reflector covers. In the case of the Cyo, the cover generally outlasted
 the plastic mounting ear for the light. The IQ-X has a metal mounting
 bracket, which solves the only substantive problem I had with the Cyo N.

 My long-awaited Kelpie will use the IQ-X headlamp as part of the
 integrated lighting system (along with a Sinewave/Velo-lumino switch and
 power supply).

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Christopher Cote]

I was looking at the 700x28 Compass tires (I wish they just used numbers, I 
can't remember all the names). I bet those would fit even with fenders. But 
I have one fendered road bike, and maybe another on the way, so the Ram 
will be reborn as a light(ish) fair weather bike. Going to a double is more 
for style and differentiation. I rarely have used the granny ring on this 
bike. It's just tucked in there ready for a bailout if needed.

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 6:27:09 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> This would be a great project for some nice Bon Jon or Stampede tires from 
> Compass (if the BJs run small, as others seem to do, they might fit your 
> older version Ram). Had I not already had 2 road customs, I'd have kept my 
> Ram with the Parigi Roubaix tires -- wonderful combination. With some 
> Orange Seal in the tires there's no reason you can't ride this in the city. 
> I commuted very happily and speedily and smoothly on one of my Riv road 
> customs on indifferent urban pavement on cushy, if too narrow, 22 mm 26 X 
> 1" Specialized Turbos for a couple of years.
>
> Frankly, I agree with the others that you don't need 38 or 42 mm tires on 
> the Ram to make it purr. With the 29 mm actual PRs, mine simply purred; and 
> the more or less same width Compass Elk Passes, even better than the PRs, 
> on my 2 customs, are excessively wonderful on pavement and doughty and 
> smooth on firm dirt and gravel -- I'm 175.
>
> You know, you can switch your triple to a double simply by using the inner 
> 2 positions; say a 44 and a 30, which is what I used with a 14-23 or 24 7 
> speed. No need to replace or even adjust the bb or fd. 
>
> I did exactly that when I turned a 46/36/24 XD2 with 7 speed into a 
> Guard/38/24 9 speed (this on another bike, a Fargo, the Ram went from the 
> 44/30 Pro 5 Vis 14-23 to a DA 7410 52/38 16-26 9 speed). Again, I didn't 
> need to adjust bb or fd. It all shifted very nicely with Silver bes.
>
> Install some Honjos and some new bar tape in addition to the new double 
> and Compasses, and you'll have a new bike at a tiny fraction of the cost of 
> buying a new one. After all, it's hard to beat that signature Riv road bike 
> handling.
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Christopher Cote  > wrote:
>
>> Well, I had a few people who were seriously interested, but things didn't 
>> work out for various reasons. I going to keep the Ram for now. Maybe give 
>> it a makeover in the spring, loose the fenders and swap the triple for a 
>> double, and switch to some bigger, lighter tires.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC-5, Christopher Cote wrote:
>>>
>>> I have an orange 58cm Rambouillet. I realize that I rode it twice in 
>>> 2016. Even less the previous 3-4 years. It's painful to consider selling 
>>> because it's the most comfortable, nicest riding, and beautiful road bike 
>>> I've ever ridden. However, I'm mostly an off-road or city rider these days. 
>>> So, I'd sell the frame/fork/headset for $800 plus shipping. I would 
>>> consider selling it with some or all of the parts, but boxing up the 
>>> complete bike and shipping it gives me cold sweats, so we'll have to figure 
>>> something out there if you want it complete. Local pickup would be even 
>>> better. I'm in southern Maine. I could probably arrange to meet a buyer in 
>>> most Northern New England locations.
>>>
>>> It has Ultegra derailleurs, brakes, hubs, and headset.
>>> Dura Ace downtube shifters.
>>> Shimano aero levers.
>>> 170mm TA Alize triple crank with 24 (I think), 38, and 48 tooth rings 
>>> and an Axix bottom bracket.
>>> Avocet Fasgrip 700x25 tires. That should tell you how little it's been 
>>> ridden in the last decade.
>>> Nitto B115 bars and unknown Nitto stem.
>>> Brooks Pro saddle and CLB seatpost with a lot of offset.
>>> Mavic MA something anodized rims.
>>> SKS fenders.
>>> Speedplay Frog pedals, but I'll probably want to keep them.
>>> Cages, pump, and seat bag will be moved to the next bike.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Patrick Moore]

I should have added that while the Compass Elk Pass tires are even more
gossamer than the Parigi Roubaix, they are a heckuvalot better at shrugging
off flats; sealant in both cases. Jan seems to have managed to combing
gossamer weight and feather down ride with stout tread.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> This would be a great project for some nice Bon Jon or Stampede tires from
> Compass (if the BJs run small, as others seem to do, they might fit your
> older version Ram). Had I not already had 2 road customs, I'd have kept my
> Ram with the Parigi Roubaix tires -- wonderful combination. With some
> Orange Seal in the tires there's no reason you can't ride this in the city.
> I commuted very happily and speedily and smoothly on one of my Riv road
> customs on indifferent urban pavement on cushy, if too narrow, 22 mm 26 X
> 1" Specialized Turbos for a couple of years.
>
> Frankly, I agree with the others that you don't need 38 or 42 mm tires on
> the Ram to make it purr. With the 29 mm actual PRs, mine simply purred; and
> the more or less same width Compass Elk Passes, even better than the PRs,
> on my 2 customs, are excessively wonderful on pavement and doughty and
> smooth on firm dirt and gravel -- I'm 175.
>
> You know, you can switch your triple to a double simply by using the inner
> 2 positions; say a 44 and a 30, which is what I used with a 14-23 or 24 7
> speed. No need to replace or even adjust the bb or fd.
>
> I did exactly that when I turned a 46/36/24 XD2 with 7 speed into a
> Guard/38/24 9 speed (this on another bike, a Fargo, the Ram went from the
> 44/30 Pro 5 Vis 14-23 to a DA 7410 52/38 16-26 9 speed). Again, I didn't
> need to adjust bb or fd. It all shifted very nicely with Silver bes.
>
> Install some Honjos and some new bar tape in addition to the new double
> and Compasses, and you'll have a new bike at a tiny fraction of the cost of
> buying a new one. After all, it's hard to beat that signature Riv road bike
> handling.
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Christopher Cote <
> christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, I had a few people who were seriously interested, but things didn't
>> work out for various reasons. I going to keep the Ram for now. Maybe give
>> it a makeover in the spring, loose the fenders and swap the triple for a
>> double, and switch to some bigger, lighter tires.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC-5, Christopher Cote wrote:
>>>
>>> I have an orange 58cm Rambouillet. I realize that I rode it twice in
>>> 2016. Even less the previous 3-4 years. It's painful to consider selling
>>> because it's the most comfortable, nicest riding, and beautiful road bike
>>> I've ever ridden. However, I'm mostly an off-road or city rider these days.
>>> So, I'd sell the frame/fork/headset for $800 plus shipping. I would
>>> consider selling it with some or all of the parts, but boxing up the
>>> complete bike and shipping it gives me cold sweats, so we'll have to figure
>>> something out there if you want it complete. Local pickup would be even
>>> better. I'm in southern Maine. I could probably arrange to meet a buyer in
>>> most Northern New England locations.
>>>
>>> It has Ultegra derailleurs, brakes, hubs, and headset.
>>> Dura Ace downtube shifters.
>>> Shimano aero levers.
>>> 170mm TA Alize triple crank with 24 (I think), 38, and 48 tooth rings
>>> and an Axix bottom bracket.
>>> Avocet Fasgrip 700x25 tires. That should tell you how little it's been
>>> ridden in the last decade.
>>> Nitto B115 bars and unknown Nitto stem.
>>> Brooks Pro saddle and CLB seatpost with a lot of offset.
>>> Mavic MA something anodized rims.
>>> SKS fenders.
>>> Speedplay Frog pedals, but I'll probably want to keep them.
>>> Cages, pump, and seat bag will be moved to the next bike.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Patrick Moore]

This would be a great project for some nice Bon Jon or Stampede tires from
Compass (if the BJs run small, as others seem to do, they might fit your
older version Ram). Had I not already had 2 road customs, I'd have kept my
Ram with the Parigi Roubaix tires -- wonderful combination. With some
Orange Seal in the tires there's no reason you can't ride this in the city.
I commuted very happily and speedily and smoothly on one of my Riv road
customs on indifferent urban pavement on cushy, if too narrow, 22 mm 26 X
1" Specialized Turbos for a couple of years.

Frankly, I agree with the others that you don't need 38 or 42 mm tires on
the Ram to make it purr. With the 29 mm actual PRs, mine simply purred; and
the more or less same width Compass Elk Passes, even better than the PRs,
on my 2 customs, are excessively wonderful on pavement and doughty and
smooth on firm dirt and gravel -- I'm 175.

You know, you can switch your triple to a double simply by using the inner
2 positions; say a 44 and a 30, which is what I used with a 14-23 or 24 7
speed. No need to replace or even adjust the bb or fd.

I did exactly that when I turned a 46/36/24 XD2 with 7 speed into a
Guard/38/24 9 speed (this on another bike, a Fargo, the Ram went from the
44/30 Pro 5 Vis 14-23 to a DA 7410 52/38 16-26 9 speed). Again, I didn't
need to adjust bb or fd. It all shifted very nicely with Silver bes.

Install some Honjos and some new bar tape in addition to the new double and
Compasses, and you'll have a new bike at a tiny fraction of the cost of
buying a new one. After all, it's hard to beat that signature Riv road bike
handling.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Christopher Cote <
christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, I had a few people who were seriously interested, but things didn't
> work out for various reasons. I going to keep the Ram for now. Maybe give
> it a makeover in the spring, loose the fenders and swap the triple for a
> double, and switch to some bigger, lighter tires.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC-5, Christopher Cote wrote:
>>
>> I have an orange 58cm Rambouillet. I realize that I rode it twice in
>> 2016. Even less the previous 3-4 years. It's painful to consider selling
>> because it's the most comfortable, nicest riding, and beautiful road bike
>> I've ever ridden. However, I'm mostly an off-road or city rider these days.
>> So, I'd sell the frame/fork/headset for $800 plus shipping. I would
>> consider selling it with some or all of the parts, but boxing up the
>> complete bike and shipping it gives me cold sweats, so we'll have to figure
>> something out there if you want it complete. Local pickup would be even
>> better. I'm in southern Maine. I could probably arrange to meet a buyer in
>> most Northern New England locations.
>>
>> It has Ultegra derailleurs, brakes, hubs, and headset.
>> Dura Ace downtube shifters.
>> Shimano aero levers.
>> 170mm TA Alize triple crank with 24 (I think), 38, and 48 tooth rings and
>> an Axix bottom bracket.
>> Avocet Fasgrip 700x25 tires. That should tell you how little it's been
>> ridden in the last decade.
>> Nitto B115 bars and unknown Nitto stem.
>> Brooks Pro saddle and CLB seatpost with a lot of offset.
>> Mavic MA something anodized rims.
>> SKS fenders.
>> Speedplay Frog pedals, but I'll probably want to keep them.
>> Cages, pump, and seat bag will be moved to the next bike.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] FS: cream 700x55 Big Ben tires

[mike gasparino]

Oops! 700x50 size

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[RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Christopher Cote]

Well, I had a few people who were seriously interested, but things didn't 
work out for various reasons. I going to keep the Ram for now. Maybe give 
it a makeover in the spring, loose the fenders and swap the triple for a 
double, and switch to some bigger, lighter tires.

Chris


On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 8:23:05 PM UTC-5, Christopher Cote wrote:
>
> I have an orange 58cm Rambouillet. I realize that I rode it twice in 2016. 
> Even less the previous 3-4 years. It's painful to consider selling because 
> it's the most comfortable, nicest riding, and beautiful road bike I've ever 
> ridden. However, I'm mostly an off-road or city rider these days. So, I'd 
> sell the frame/fork/headset for $800 plus shipping. I would consider 
> selling it with some or all of the parts, but boxing up the complete bike 
> and shipping it gives me cold sweats, so we'll have to figure something out 
> there if you want it complete. Local pickup would be even better. I'm in 
> southern Maine. I could probably arrange to meet a buyer in most Northern 
> New England locations.
>
> It has Ultegra derailleurs, brakes, hubs, and headset.
> Dura Ace downtube shifters.
> Shimano aero levers.
> 170mm TA Alize triple crank with 24 (I think), 38, and 48 tooth rings and 
> an Axix bottom bracket.
> Avocet Fasgrip 700x25 tires. That should tell you how little it's been 
> ridden in the last decade.
> Nitto B115 bars and unknown Nitto stem.
> Brooks Pro saddle and CLB seatpost with a lot of offset.
> Mavic MA something anodized rims.
> SKS fenders.
> Speedplay Frog pedals, but I'll probably want to keep them.
> Cages, pump, and seat bag will be moved to the next bike.
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

[Richard Rios]

Thanks Joe,

I did / do anticipate a bit of a difference based on description and ride 
reports but it does sound close enough and I was hedging my bet just a wee bit 
due to my previous experience. But close enough in this case will be PLENTY 
GOOD enogh cause the appa was a wow grin inducer.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[sameness]

But how can I put myself in the other person's shoes when there is no 
"other", only All and Now? Or... something. I mean, or... everything!

I'm off to treat myself. I hope you all enjoy it.

(On topic: "On your left!" = the other other invariably moves left into my 
path 92% of the time. I ring early and I ring often.)

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 12:08:26 PM UTC-8, Garth wrote:
>
>  
> Put yourself in the "other" person shoes, forget who you think you are and 
> who you think they may be, forget about the circumstances, forget they were 
> known or unknown to you prior to this crossing  just 2 or more people 
> sharing the same time and space.  How would you like to be treated?, treat 
> them that way without any consideration of yourself.  Do it anyways   .  . 
> . .
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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Garth]

You know Patrick of the Moore's . . .  . life really is just like a box of 
wondrous chocolates ...  . when you open the box it's gonna be everything 
it was ever going to be :)

 
On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 11:01:21 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Can we somehow remove this sort of drivel from the list?
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] IQ-X Headlight

[Eric Norris]

Right. I have one of my IQ-Xs mounted on a metal fork crown mount from another 
light. The other is mounted to a dedicated mounting point on a front rack. I 
haven’t used the factory-supplied IQ-X bracket.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
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> On Dec 29, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Peter White  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps. But that part hasn't changed either. It's also made of the same 
> polybrimolated plasticky stuff that seems to be quite tough.
> 
> Hmm, polybrimolation. Sounds technical!
> 
> PJW
> 
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Eric Norris  > wrote:
> I think the writer was referring to the metal bracket that fastens to the 
> bike, not the plastic part that wraps around the body of the light.
> 
> FWIW, I haven’t had any troubles with the IQ-X lights I’ve installed on two 
> different bikes. The plastic part seems plenty strong, given that the unit 
> itself is very lightweight.
> 
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com 
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> 
>> On Dec 29, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Peter White > > wrote:
>> 
>> We received a shipment of IQ-X just two weeks ago. I just checked one from 
>> that shipment. There's been no change to the mount.
>> 
>> Peter White
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Anton Tutter > > wrote:
>> Your IQ-X has a metal mounting bracket? I wonder if they changed the design 
>> from the first production units. Mine (an early one) has a one-piece split 
>> plastic mounting ring with plastic tabs. Can you take a picture of yours?
>> 
>> Anton
>> velolumino.com 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 2:21:32 PM UTC-5, William deRosset wrote:
>> The lens/reflector cover is plastic. If it is like the Cyo lenses, it will 
>> survive winter fine. It will eventually get scratched and yellow from 
>> environmental exposure. However, a headlight restoration kit from the auto 
>> parts store will fix it right up, based on my experience with the Ixon and 
>> Cyo reflector covers. In the case of the Cyo, the cover generally outlasted 
>> the plastic mounting ear for the light. The IQ-X has a metal mounting 
>> bracket, which solves the only substantive problem I had with the Cyo N.
>> My long-awaited Kelpie will use the IQ-X headlamp as part of the integrated 
>> lighting system (along with a Sinewave/Velo-lumino switch and power supply).
>> 
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[RBW] Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

[Joe Bernard]

Welcome to the long chainstay cult! "Caddie ride with Porsche handling" is an 
excellent description of how my Appa feels..I love it. I previously owned a 
Clem and I think you'll be happy with it. It feels (and looks) a little more 
stout than Appaloosa, but the ride is comparable, in my opinion. Enjoy!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Eric Floden]

It sounded like terrific fun

Eric
Middle Ontario

On 29 December 2016 at 16:06, Ron Mc  wrote:

> I was having fun too
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[RBW] Clem / long CS CROW PIE!

[Richard Rios]

So a few weeks back The Wheelhouse los angeles posted on their facebook page 
that they had some Clems, Appas, and Sams in stock. So I though Howdee I live 
close enough to there to grab a quick look. And there is a pretty decent ramen 
shop near by score twofer! Also to be completely honest the new bike bug has 
been biting a bit. Anyhow I stopped by to check out the bikes, the clem that 
was my size 52 had already been sold and I have owned a Sam so I was offered a 
test ride on the Appa. It was a size to small but they got things close enough 
for me to take it for a spin...and well WOW was I surprised! Not that I should 
have been per say but I was. Two words Smooth and responsive! Like a Caddie 
with Porsche handling! Also loved the choco moose bars that were on there. The 
forward hand position felt really good to me and natural better than that of 
the Albas for compairson. So as for the crow I've been a bit of a poopooer on 
the whole long CS thing. Not in any major way but based on my experience with a 
particular bike. Now I don't know if the feeling I got was because of the 
smaller frame or bar position or simply because it was a parking lot test ride 
and the bike is STUNNING! But man was I impressed. So much so I whent ahead and 
ordered a Clem. Not the appa I know but I had sold a few bikes recently and 
thats what I had the scratch for. Still might be an appa in my future as an 
upgrade from clem if need be. Anyway when the Clem arrives I sure hope I have 
the same experience all over again and get to eat a great big giant Clem Smith 
/ long CS CROW pie!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Ron Mc]

I was having fun too

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[RBW] Re: XT front derailleur with Sugino XD2 triple on a Hunqapillar?

[Joe Bernard]

Garth, you're right in general about double FDs on triple cranks, but I suspect 
there's something different about the new 10-speed Shimano MTB stuff.

I disagree about chains. I've tried running 8-speed chains with 9-speed mechs, 
and the constant trimming to prevent chain rub - we shift a lot on the hills 
around here - got on my nerves. My Appaloosa has the reverse - 8-speed 
derailer, 9-speed chain - and its glorious. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Steve Palincsar]

On 12/29/2016 03:21 PM, Ron Mc wrote:
And you can't please everybody.  Some people are looking for offense. 
 I about decided the old man was pushing and taking up the whole path 
on purpose.
But you are doing the right and safe thing and someone is offended, 
it's all on them and not about you.


There was this one guy several times - haven't seen him in a long time 
- who made fun of my bell, singing out ICE CREAM.

I replied in my best voca musici, No, Gelato.


Sounds like he was having a bit of fun - hardly the stuff of offense, 
I'd think.


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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Cheviot Complete

[Clayton.sf]

yeah keeping it ;-)

settled on steel vs ti ;-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Ron Mc]

something else for sure - if I'm panic braking, my bell is also ringing

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 2:21:46 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> And you can't please everybody.  Some people are looking for offense.  I 
> about decided the old man was pushing and taking up the whole path on 
> purpose.  
> But you are doing the right and safe thing and someone is offended, it's 
> all on them and not about you.  
>
> There was this one guy several times - haven't seen him in a long time - 
> who made fun of my bell, singing out ICE CREAM.  
> I replied in my best voca musici, No, Gelato.  
>
> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 2:12:58 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> Richard, for a bike approaching at 20 mph and even slowing to pass you at 
>> 10 mph, unless you're constantly swinging your head or wearing a rear view 
>> mirror, you can still get surprised.  
>> Sparing pedestrians the surprise and shock of our very quiet bikes is 
>> just polite - maybe it's just my very quiet bikes.  
>> In case of people with dogs, you want to give them as much warning as 
>> possible as an unfortunately majority need it to get their animals under 
>> control.  
>> I bet I haven't offended 3 pedestrians in 5 years, and the one I offended 
>> this week was randomly crossing from left to right across my path, was 
>> elderly, and I couldn't tell whether he was hard of hearing as he gave me 
>> no acknowledgement.  
>> The regular pedestrians on my routes all know me by my bell, smile and 
>> wave - even those who didn't used to.  
>>
>> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 2:04:19 PM UTC-6, Richard Rios wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm just weird but I do glance back every so often as I walk 
>>> along. Do the same on my bike. Keeps me from being surprised at least 80 
>>> percent of the time. Also most bikes are not absolutely silent usually 
>>> there will be some kind of noise that alerts me to a bike comming along. 
>>> Tire buzz, chain squeek, brake squeel, friends talking and enjoying the 
>>> ride, dirt or leaves being ran over. The only problem I find with that is 
>>> if some one is playing out racing fantasies and being a bit inconsiderate, 
>>> then they will close to fast to react to and it is a bit startling.  But 
>>> hey if having to pay some attention to what is going on in the environment 
>>> is to much to ask ...maybe I'll just go into the mirrors for pedestrians 
>>> buisness! That way they can just look straight ahead, with ear buds in, 
>>> monitoring Fit bit, smoking a pipe, drinking a cup o' joe, while reading 
>>> Ann Patchette and still see what is going on behind them !) 
>>>
>>> Richard "spider sense" Rios 
>>>
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[RBW] FS: cream 700x55 Big Ben tires

[mike gasparino]

About 30 miles on them. $60 shipped 

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[RBW] Re: XT front derailleur with Sugino XD2 triple on a Hunqapillar?

[Garth]

A double has more than enough throw with a triple, I have a '99 105 9 
speed double FD that I shift a Sugino triple w/107 Tange BB, 8 speed SRAM 
chain, 13-32 7 sp. FW, chainline about 45-6mm. As far as I know the only 
difference in FD models is in the cage shapes and widths, not the throws. I 
do find MTB FD's with the way they shape the cage for shifting to be less 
forgiving than a double with straight-er cage. This dates back to the 
FD-M735 from the early 90's. Pain in the butt on my '83 Stumpjumper , 
always needed trimming. 

the difference between a 8 and 9 speed chain width is very slight,  7.1 for 
8 and 6.6-6.8 for 9.



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>
> I haven't had any luck getting rid of chain rub against the front 
> derailleur plate of a Deore XT front derailleur on my Hunqapillar (Dura Ace 
> shifters). I have a 108 Phil Wood hub and the granny ring is pretty close 
> to the chain stay as it is, and I can't get it much closer. Seems like an 
> XT would have enough throw to be up to the task, but I've tried getting the 
> cable tension as high as possible by pulling hard on the cable down at the 
> anchor bolt and tightening the barrel adjustors at the shifters. No luck. 
> Any troubleshooting steps I might try?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Ron Mc]

And you can't please everybody.  Some people are looking for offense.  I 
about decided the old man was pushing and taking up the whole path on 
purpose.  
But you are doing the right and safe thing and someone is offended, it's 
all on them and not about you.  

There was this one guy several times - haven't seen him in a long time - 
who made fun of my bell, singing out ICE CREAM.  
I replied in my best voca musici, No, Gelato.  

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 2:12:58 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Richard, for a bike approaching at 20 mph and even slowing to pass you at 
> 10 mph, unless you're constantly swinging your head or wearing a rear view 
> mirror, you can still get surprised.  
> Sparing pedestrians the surprise and shock of our very quiet bikes is just 
> polite - maybe it's just my very quiet bikes.  
> In case of people with dogs, you want to give them as much warning as 
> possible as an unfortunately majority need it to get their animals under 
> control.  
> I bet I haven't offended 3 pedestrians in 5 years, and the one I offended 
> this week was randomly crossing from left to right across my path, was 
> elderly, and I couldn't tell whether he was hard of hearing as he gave me 
> no acknowledgement.  
> The regular pedestrians on my routes all know me by my bell, smile and 
> wave - even those who didn't used to.  
>
> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 2:04:19 PM UTC-6, Richard Rios wrote:
>>
>> Maybe I'm just weird but I do glance back every so often as I walk along. 
>> Do the same on my bike. Keeps me from being surprised at least 80 percent 
>> of the time. Also most bikes are not absolutely silent usually there will 
>> be some kind of noise that alerts me to a bike comming along. Tire buzz, 
>> chain squeek, brake squeel, friends talking and enjoying the ride, dirt or 
>> leaves being ran over. The only problem I find with that is if some one is 
>> playing out racing fantasies and being a bit inconsiderate, then they will 
>> close to fast to react to and it is a bit startling.  But hey if having to 
>> pay some attention to what is going on in the environment is to much to ask 
>> ...maybe I'll just go into the mirrors for pedestrians buisness! That way 
>> they can just look straight ahead, with ear buds in, monitoring Fit bit, 
>> smoking a pipe, drinking a cup o' joe, while reading Ann Patchette and 
>> still see what is going on behind them !) 
>>
>> Richard "spider sense" Rios 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Ron Mc]

Richard, for a bike approaching at 20 mph and even slowing to pass you at 
10 mph, unless you're constantly swinging your head or wearing a rear view 
mirror, you can still get surprised.  
Sparing pedestrians the surprise and shock of our very quiet bikes is just 
polite - maybe it's just my very quiet bikes.  
In case of people with dogs, you want to give them as much warning as 
possible as an unfortunately majority need it to get their animals under 
control.  
I bet I haven't offended 3 pedestrians in 5 years, and the one I offended 
this week was randomly crossing from left to right across my path, was 
elderly, and I couldn't tell whether he was hard of hearing as he gave me 
no acknowledgement.  
The regular pedestrians on my routes all know me by my bell, smile and wave 
- even those who didn't used to.  

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 2:04:19 PM UTC-6, Richard Rios wrote:
>
> Maybe I'm just weird but I do glance back every so often as I walk along. 
> Do the same on my bike. Keeps me from being surprised at least 80 percent 
> of the time. Also most bikes are not absolutely silent usually there will 
> be some kind of noise that alerts me to a bike comming along. Tire buzz, 
> chain squeek, brake squeel, friends talking and enjoying the ride, dirt or 
> leaves being ran over. The only problem I find with that is if some one is 
> playing out racing fantasies and being a bit inconsiderate, then they will 
> close to fast to react to and it is a bit startling.  But hey if having to 
> pay some attention to what is going on in the environment is to much to ask 
> ...maybe I'll just go into the mirrors for pedestrians buisness! That way 
> they can just look straight ahead, with ear buds in, monitoring Fit bit, 
> smoking a pipe, drinking a cup o' joe, while reading Ann Patchette and 
> still see what is going on behind them !) 
>
> Richard "spider sense" Rios 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Justin August]

The obvious solution here is for everyone to get Chris King hubs and coast at 
speed on MUPs. No one can miss you then. 

-j

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Garth]

 
  Yea Yea Leah  !  !  

 I like the jingle bells idea too. 

  Here are some practical tips  .  . . . 

Put yourself in the "other" person shoes, forget who you think you are and 
who you think they may be, forget about the circumstances, forget they were 
known or unknown to you prior to this crossing  just 2 or more people 
sharing the same time and space.  How would you like to be treated?, treat 
them that way without any consideration of yourself.  Do it anyways   .  . 
. .

Look at where you ARE as the destination, where-ever that may be at the 
time, not just "in your way" of getting somewhere else. We're always "on 
the way" and when we get there, oh . . . "I'm sooo busy . . I have 
somewhere else to be, something else to do".  Always some-where or 
some-thing else, but never where you ARE... You just kinda are . . may as 
be friends .



On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 1:16:29 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Ah, the MUP etiquette. It's confounding, isn't it? I've tried ringing 
> bells, but what I mean as a pleasant alert ends up seeming like honking to 
> pedestrians. I took a leaf out of Grant's book and put jingle bells on the 
> kids' bikes. They were clearanced at $1 apiece, and they wrap securely 
> around the bars with a strong velcro closure. Thus, people hear us coming 
> as we jingle down the path. But for the "zombies" - folks with ear buds or 
> phones, I just call out in my cheeriest voice, "Good morning!" and that 
> works splendidly. Sometimes I yell compliments - "Love your backpack!" 
> "What a cute dog you have!" "Working hard! Looking good!" I know some folks 
> are irritated initially because they don't expect us, but it's hard to be 
> snarky with a rider who cheerfully calls out a morning greeting to you. "On 
> your left" was dicey, as people often move left, and kids don't understand 
> it. So, cheerfulness and compliments are the way to go, in my humble 
> opinion!
>
> Leah, who rides TBBITW (The Best Bike in the World) cheerfully through the 
> suburbs.
>

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[RBW] Re: XT front derailleur with Sugino XD2 triple on a Hunqapillar?

[Joe Bernard]

The Riv listing pictures three different XT mechs and labels them triples, so I 
don't really know how what they sell compares to that 10-speed double. Judging 
from the OP's problems with getting his to cover three rings, I would assume 
the double has a shorter throw. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Richard Rios]

Maybe I'm just weird but I do glance back every so often as I walk along. Do 
the same on my bike. Keeps me from being surprised at least 80 percent of the 
time. Also most bikes are not absolutely silent usually there will be some kind 
of noise that alerts me to a bike comming along. Tire buzz, chain squeek, brake 
squeel, friends talking and enjoying the ride, dirt or leaves being ran over. 
The only problem I find with that is if some one is playing out racing 
fantasies and being a bit inconsiderate, then they will close to fast to react 
to and it is a bit startling.  But hey if having to pay some attention to what 
is going on in the environment is to much to ask ...maybe I'll just go into the 
mirrors for pedestrians buisness! That way they can just look straight ahead, 
with ear buds in, monitoring Fit bit, smoking a pipe, drinking a cup o' joe, 
while reading Ann Patchette and still see what is going on behind them !) 

Richard "spider sense" Rios 

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Re: [RBW] IQ-X Headlight

[Peter White]

Perhaps. But that part hasn't changed either. It's also made of the same
polybrimolated plasticky stuff that seems to be quite tough.

Hmm, polybrimolation. Sounds technical!

PJW

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> I think the writer was referring to the metal bracket that fastens to the
> bike, not the plastic part that wraps around the body of the light.
>
> FWIW, I haven’t had any troubles with the IQ-X lights I’ve installed on
> two different bikes. The plastic part seems plenty strong, given that the
> unit itself is very lightweight.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>
> On Dec 29, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Peter White  wrote:
>
> We received a shipment of IQ-X just two weeks ago. I just checked one from
> that shipment. There's been no change to the mount.
>
> Peter White
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:
>
>> Your IQ-X has a metal mounting bracket? I wonder if they changed the
>> design from the first production units. Mine (an early one) has a one-piece
>> split plastic mounting ring with plastic tabs. Can you take a picture of
>> yours?
>>
>> Anton
>> velolumino.com
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 2:21:32 PM UTC-5, William deRosset
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The lens/reflector cover is plastic. If it is like the Cyo lenses, it
>>> will survive winter fine. It will eventually get scratched and yellow from
>>> environmental exposure. However, a headlight restoration kit from the auto
>>> parts store will fix it right up, based on my experience with the Ixon and
>>> Cyo reflector covers. In the case of the Cyo, the cover generally outlasted
>>> the plastic mounting ear for the light. The IQ-X has a metal mounting
>>> bracket, which solves the only substantive problem I had with the Cyo N.
>>>
>>> My long-awaited Kelpie will use the IQ-X headlamp as part of the
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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[islaysteve]

Leah, as usual, you are a model of positivity for us all.  Happy New Year to 
you and your family, Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

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On 12/29/2016 02:00 PM, Ron Mc wrote:

even the most conscious people can't see behind them.
One thing I like about the Crane Karen bell is you play it.  It can 
flam, it can ping, it can be a gentile ring, it can be loud.

Pedestrians appreciate a polite warning that you're about to pass them.
Just like the deer, from your approach ring they know your distance 
and speed.


Ron's right about all that.  As for "playing" bells -- the same is true 
of "traditional" or "ring-ring" bike bells.


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[RBW] Re: Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

[Kai Vierstra]

I use the tubus clamps Patrick posted, they're perfect.
I wanted to clarify my opinions on balanced loads and wiggly frames, when I say 
balanced load on front lowriders, I mean side to side, not back to front. I'm 
happier with all the weight on the front as low as it'll go, leaving the back 
clear of any substantial load. I had an incident with some breakage earlier 
this year which I at least partially credit to having a rear load on a, in this 
case, quickbeam, and how that flexed the frame. I know that I'm a rear load for 
the most part, but a dynamic as opposed to static one. So, for me it's static 
and dynamo up front, dynamic in the back.
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[RBW] Re: XT front derailleur with Sugino XD2 triple on a Hunqapillar?

[drew]

Well the photo is identical to the one that riv sells, and the one I have on my 
hunqapillar. I suppose it could be a different version for doubles though...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Ron Mc]

even the most conscious people can't see behind them.  
One thing I like about the Crane Karen bell is you play it.  It can flam, 
it can ping, it can be a gentile ring, it can be loud.  
Pedestrians appreciate a polite warning that you're about to pass them.  
Just like the deer, from your approach ring they know your distance and 
speed.  

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 12:27:03 PM UTC-6, Richard Rios wrote:
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> As to original question posed. I say yes it is absolutely ok, go for it 
> and why not. My experience is that people you can pass in this manner are 
> generally the more considerate and aware types. They don't seem startled or 
> to mind. I know I dont, just slow down a bit and go on about your buisness. 
> I find the issue to be with the groups of walkers or cyclist taking up the 
> whole path talking loudly and in general showing no concern for others. But 
> these folks tend to be a no win...if you just try to go around quietly they 
> look at you all indignantly and don't seem to want to share the space or if 
> you use a bell they seem startled and scatter in all directions causing 
> even more of a ruckus and still look at ya all indignantly. People with 
> kids and dogs I will generally try and give some warning because kids being 
> kids will dart and I wouldn't want them or fido to get hurt. Point being 
> everyone should keep a general awareness of others about them on multi use 
> paths and be considerate / use common sense. Then there really is no 
> problem and need to signal every time you go around. I dont honk before I 
> pass in my car. The expectation is that as drivers we keep a general 
> awareness of what is happening around us for everyone's safety. Think the 
> same should be true of multi use paths as well. I also like my brass bells 
> because they look, and sound great. I will ping mine at times just for 
> shits and giggles because the sound makes me feel happy. What I actually 
> find them most useful for is when going around blind corners or when or 
> where sight is somehow limited. Then I will just ping away to let others 
> know I am around. Just my .02 

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[RBW] Re: XT front derailleur with Sugino XD2 triple on a Hunqapillar?

[Joe Bernard]

Yes, that problem was a too-wide chain, but now I see yours: that's a double 
front derailer for small rings that you're trying to make work with a 
bigger-rings triple. I don't think you're going to be able to make that work. 

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[RBW] Re: XT front derailleur with Sugino XD2 triple on a Hunqapillar?

[Jack Doran]

lum gim fong, it does protrude somewhat inboard, but even so, as a MTB 
derailleur, I thought it would have enough throw to line up with the big 
ring properly.

Drew, 9 speed chain. I will try inching it up and see if that helps. Thanks 
for the suggestion.

flayer, using 9 sp Dura Ace on friction mode.

Garth, my thought exactly about the throw on an MTB derailleur. Using the 
no nonsense Dura Ace 9 speed shifters on friction mode and the standard top 
pull Deore XT 
derailleur. 
https://www.merlincycles.com/shimano-xt-m786-10-speed-double-front-mech-conventional-top-pull-54997.html?utm_campaign=googlebase-US_source=googlebase_medium=shopping_term=MTB+Front+Derailleurs=CJWwn_6ImtECFQGVfgodtkUEng

Joe, this is a 9 speed, but I'm guessing the issue was that 8 speed chains 
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Re: [RBW] IQ-X Headlight

[Eric Norris]

I think the writer was referring to the metal bracket that fastens to the bike, 
not the plastic part that wraps around the body of the light.

FWIW, I haven’t had any troubles with the IQ-X lights I’ve installed on two 
different bikes. The plastic part seems plenty strong, given that the unit 
itself is very lightweight.

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> 
> We received a shipment of IQ-X just two weeks ago. I just checked one from 
> that shipment. There's been no change to the mount.
> 
> Peter White
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> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Anton Tutter  > wrote:
> Your IQ-X has a metal mounting bracket? I wonder if they changed the design 
> from the first production units. Mine (an early one) has a one-piece split 
> plastic mounting ring with plastic tabs. Can you take a picture of yours?
> 
> Anton
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> survive winter fine. It will eventually get scratched and yellow from 
> environmental exposure. However, a headlight restoration kit from the auto 
> parts store will fix it right up, based on my experience with the Ixon and 
> Cyo reflector covers. In the case of the Cyo, the cover generally outlasted 
> the plastic mounting ear for the light. The IQ-X has a metal mounting 
> bracket, which solves the only substantive problem I had with the Cyo N.
> My long-awaited Kelpie will use the IQ-X headlamp as part of the integrated 
> lighting system (along with a Sinewave/Velo-lumino switch and power supply).
> 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Matt Beecher]

Thanks for all the replies on the tire/fender question.  I've got a Road 
Standard (maybe custom) 

 
that I like, but wish it took slightly larger tires.  It sounds like they 
run about the same size, maybe one tire size smaller. 

Cheers,
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Bruce Herbitter]

Not every Ram owner was thrilled with the bike but it seems most are, as shown 
by the high level of activity on Ram threads.  I have over 13,000 miles on mine 
and if I could only keep one bike that would be the one.  Right now it has 37mm 
tires but this weekend I'm going back to the stock issue 32s just to change 
things up.  

Sent from my iPhone

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> Well, I'm not saying you should consider that there weren't a ton of them 
> made, and it sure is beautiful... ;-)
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Re: [RBW] IQ-X Headlight

[Peter White]

We received a shipment of IQ-X just two weeks ago. I just checked one from
that shipment. There's been no change to the mount.

Peter White

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:

> Your IQ-X has a metal mounting bracket? I wonder if they changed the
> design from the first production units. Mine (an early one) has a one-piece
> split plastic mounting ring with plastic tabs. Can you take a picture of
> yours?
>
> Anton
> velolumino.com
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 2:21:32 PM UTC-5, William deRosset
> wrote:
>>
>> The lens/reflector cover is plastic. If it is like the Cyo lenses, it
>> will survive winter fine. It will eventually get scratched and yellow from
>> environmental exposure. However, a headlight restoration kit from the auto
>> parts store will fix it right up, based on my experience with the Ixon and
>> Cyo reflector covers. In the case of the Cyo, the cover generally outlasted
>> the plastic mounting ear for the light. The IQ-X has a metal mounting
>> bracket, which solves the only substantive problem I had with the Cyo N.
>>
>> My long-awaited Kelpie will use the IQ-X headlamp as part of the
>> integrated lighting system (along with a Sinewave/Velo-lumino switch and
>> power supply).
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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Richard Rios]

As to original question posed. I say yes it is absolutely ok, go for it and why 
not. My experience is that people you can pass in this manner are generally the 
more considerate and aware types. They don't seem startled or to mind. I know I 
dont, just slow down a bit and go on about your buisness. I find the issue to 
be with the groups of walkers or cyclist taking up the whole path talking 
loudly and in general showing no concern for others. But these folks tend to be 
a no win...if you just try to go around quietly they look at you all 
indignantly and don't seem to want to share the space or if you use a bell they 
seem startled and scatter in all directions causing even more of a ruckus and 
still look at ya all indignantly. People with kids and dogs I will generally 
try and give some warning because kids being kids will dart and I wouldn't want 
them or fido to get hurt. Point being everyone should keep a general awareness 
of others about them on multi use paths and be considerate / use common sense. 
Then there really is no problem and need to signal every time you go around. I 
dont honk before I pass in my car. The expectation is that as drivers we keep a 
general awareness of what is happening around us for everyone's safety. Think 
the same should be true of multi use paths as well. I also like my brass bells 
because they look, and sound great. I will ping mine at times just for shits 
and giggles because the sound makes me feel happy. What I actually find them 
most useful for is when going around blind corners or when or where sight is 
somehow limited. Then I will just ping away to let others know I am around. 
Just my .02 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[ted]

It seems not

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[LeahFoy]

Ah, the MUP etiquette. It's confounding, isn't it? I've tried ringing bells, 
but what I mean as a pleasant alert ends up seeming like honking to 
pedestrians. I took a leaf out of Grant's book and put jingle bells on the 
kids' bikes. They were clearanced at $1 apiece, and they wrap securely around 
the bars with a strong velcro closure. Thus, people hear us coming as we jingle 
down the path. But for the "zombies" - folks with ear buds or phones, I just 
call out in my cheeriest voice, "Good morning!" and that works splendidly. 
Sometimes I yell compliments - "Love your backpack!" "What a cute dog you 
have!" "Working hard! Looking good!" I know some folks are irritated initially 
because they don't expect us, but it's hard to be snarky with a rider who 
cheerfully calls out a morning greeting to you. "On your left" was dicey, as 
people often move left, and kids don't understand it. So, cheerfulness and 
compliments are the way to go, in my humble opinion!

Leah, who rides TBBITW (The Best Bike in the World) cheerfully through the 
suburbs.

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[RBW] Re: XT front derailleur with Sugino XD2 triple on a Hunqapillar?

[Joe Bernard]

The last thread about this was someone using an 8-speed chain with a 9-speed 
derailer. I suspect that's the problem here. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Joe Bernard]

Well, I'm not saying you should consider that there weren't a ton of them made, 
and it sure is beautiful... ;-)

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[RBW] Re: Albastache + brifters

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My
 
Dirt Drop stem brings the bottom of the drops up to where I ride. I ride 
mostly on the drops. It is about the height of most drop tops, about seat 
height. I never understood why someone (except racers) would run drop bars 
so low, that the drops are basically unusable (disclaimer; I have had three 
back surgeries). The bar tops are way up there and give my back a break 
when needed. 


Clayton (Bend)

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[RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Christopher Cote]

You guys are making thus really hard to let go!

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Christopher Murray]

38s (and most other sizes) were smaller in the early 2000s. 

Cheers!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

[Kieran J]

Nice!!

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 11:04:28 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Tubus makes superior alternatives to P clamps for fork mountings (these 
> work for other purposes besides mounting lowriders, btw). 
>
> Photo from thetouringstore.com
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> [image: Inline image 1] 


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Justin August]

Rams have also been converted to 650b x 42 with fenders. 

-Justin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

[Patrick Moore]

FWIW, my brother recently bought a BM Monstercross, and even more recently
installed some Soma 42 mm tires at sub 500 grams each in place of the 29er
tires. While he liked the handling and feel before, he did say that the new
and lighter tires made the Monstercross feel much more lively. But he's a
big man, so it may handle for him differently for a smaller person.

 tho' I don't doubt that the Ram handles better than the MC in any
event 

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Kieran J  wrote:

>
>
> It's funny - in reality, it would be way easier to use my Black Mountain
> Monstercross for light touring like this - it has the fork eyelets to mount
> the rack, and it has generous tire/fender clearance. However, it is a very
> dull ride, and just does not have the 'pizzazz' like the Rambouillet does.
> While the Ram is no BQ plane-o-matic, it is easily a nicer riding (and
> better fitting) bike, so I am motivated to increase its carrying capacity
> while preserving its fairly pleasant ride characteristics.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Patrick Moore]

Can we somehow remove this sort of drivel from the list?

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 7:55 AM, Garth  wrote:

>
> I speak from a place of having given all, "complying" to all the implied
> powers that be, and yet all was never enough, more was never enough.  Yes,
> call it hell, but in the midst of nowhere left to turn but your Self . . .
> funny things seem to happen, you ask true honest questions within yourself,
> and you receive true honest answers from within, not what someone else
> claims is true, but a truth not relative to anyone or anything, really your
> very Self.   So, who would the criminal be anyways , the "powers that be"
> ?  Garth, Steve, John/Jane Doe, the law, the lawyers, the cops, the perps,
> any of "they and them" ?   Nope . . . none are .
>
> "forgive them for they know not what they do"
>
> and that's all
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: XT front derailleur with Sugino XD2 triple on a Hunqapillar?

[Garth]

   Something doesn't add up, a mtb derailler is designed to extend even 
further out than a road since the chainlines are greater. What model of XT 
FD and DA shifters are you referring to ?  The pull would be the same as 
far as what has been, unless it's a new model XT and something has changed 
. 

I thought there was thread a while ago of someone who had a similar problem 
of a FD not extending but I have no link . I'm sure it's something 
simple. 


On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 1:47:39 AM UTC-5, Jack Doran wrote:
>
> I haven't had any luck getting rid of chain rub against the front 
> derailleur plate of a Deore XT front derailleur on my Hunqapillar (Dura Ace 
> shifters). I have a 108 Phil Wood hub and the granny ring is pretty close 
> to the chain stay as it is, and I can't get it much closer. Seems like an 
> XT would have enough throw to be up to the task, but I've tried getting the 
> cable tension as high as possible by pulling hard on the cable down at the 
> anchor bolt and tightening the barrel adjustors at the shifters. No luck. 
> Any troubleshooting steps I might try?
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto r14 rack

[Kellie]

Found one-no longer looking.

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 9:22:39 AM UTC-8, Kellie wrote:
>
> Looking for a Nitto rack local to the Bay Area.

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[RBW] Re: XT front derailleur with Sugino XD2 triple on a Hunqapillar?

[eflayer]

If you are using the indexing function on those shifters, it is known that 
mountain front derailleurs are not necessarily compatible with road 
shifters. Try a road front derailleur.

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 10:47:39 PM UTC-8, Jack Doran wrote:
>
> I haven't had any luck getting rid of chain rub against the front 
> derailleur plate of a Deore XT front derailleur on my Hunqapillar (Dura Ace 
> shifters). I have a 108 Phil Wood hub and the granny ring is pretty close 
> to the chain stay as it is, and I can't get it much closer. Seems like an 
> XT would have enough throw to be up to the task, but I've tried getting the 
> cable tension as high as possible by pulling hard on the cable down at the 
> anchor bolt and tightening the barrel adjustors at the shifters. No luck. 
> Any troubleshooting steps I might try?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Ron Mc]

I narc'd on a lady who was running her bull terrier loose on the trail to 
an officer and he took off after her 

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[RBW] Re: Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

[Kieran J]

For sure! I actually have a Tara lying around but I would have to source 
some proper size P-clamps to secure it mid-blade. This discussion is 
helping me realize I should just rig that up to start.

I envision the Ram as a light tourer for some upcoming short trips I want 
to do, in which case I would load it with light and bulky clothes and such 
in the panniers, some small essentials in the Bandito and the rest in an 
Acorn saddlebag I have. I liked the idea of a new fork to carry everything 
on the front as I prefer, and the Ram has the 73* HT angle to make that 
work, but that is of course the most costly and intrusive course of action. 
Maybe later ..

It's funny - in reality, it would be way easier to use my Black Mountain 
Monstercross for light touring like this - it has the fork eyelets to mount 
the rack, and it has generous tire/fender clearance. However, it is a very 
dull ride, and just does not have the 'pizzazz' like the Rambouillet does. 
While the Ram is no BQ plane-o-matic, it is easily a nicer riding (and 
better fitting) bike, so I am motivated to increase its carrying capacity 
while preserving its fairly pleasant ride characteristics.

KJ


On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 9:42:29 AM UTC-5, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Kieran
>
> With all due respect, buying a low cost front low rider, Tubus Tara for 
> example approx. $120, and trying it seems a better choice than a new fork.
>
> The feedback from Steve, Kai, and Patrick appear to show the Ram can 
> handle a moderate front load well, and heavier loads if balanced front to 
> back.  I'm sure if Patrick was to haul 40lbs total a lot, he would split it 
> front to back.  The fact 40lb was handled OK with sluggish steering 
> indicates a low rider would be no problem.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 11:51:50 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:
>
>> I will add that the most extreme (and yet possibly most logical) option 
>> would be to commission a new low-ish trail fork from Tom Matchak or another 
>> builder, and powder the whole shootin' match. 
>>
>> I'm wanting to reserve that as a last and most sensible/costly resort.
>>
>> KJ
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Scott Henry]

OK, sorry.   I guess I didn't understand the first post.
Always do what they say, the first time, every time.




On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Maybe it's the real estate - all our greenways are in the flood plains.
> And so are the police stations - our greenways connect all the police
> stations.  There are always officers on the trails, in addition to Trail
> Stewards.
> It's a good thing.
>
> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 9:03:15 AM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
>>
>> Please if you are going to be disparaging the work of America's police
>> forces, do it someplace other than a bike list.
>> Scott
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Garth  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I speak from a place of having given all, "complying" to all the implied
>>> powers that be, and yet all was never enough, more was never enough.  Yes,
>>> call it hell, but in the midst of nowhere left to turn but your Self . . .
>>> funny things seem to happen, you ask true honest questions within yourself,
>>> and you receive true honest answers from within, not what someone else
>>> claims is true, but a truth not relative to anyone or anything, really your
>>> very Self.   So, who would the criminal be anyways , the "powers that be"
>>> ?  Garth, Steve, John/Jane Doe, the law, the lawyers, the cops, the perps,
>>> any of "they and them" ?   Nope . . . none are .
>>>
>>> "forgive them for they know not what they do"
>>>
>>> and that's all
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:44:13 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar
>>> wrote:




 You try running from a cop who wants to write you a ticket for running
 a
 stop sign or in some jurisdictions, failing to come to a foot-down stop
 at a stop sign.  I'm not threatening you, just pointing out that what
 you're suggesting could be a very dangerous course of action.  There
 are
 very few "kids on bikes" reading this list.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Ron Mc]

Maybe it's the real estate - all our greenways are in the flood plains. 
 And so are the police stations - our greenways connect all the police 
stations.  There are always officers on the trails, in addition to Trail 
Stewards.  
It's a good thing.  

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 9:03:15 AM UTC-6, Skenry wrote:
>
> Please if you are going to be disparaging the work of America's police 
> forces, do it someplace other than a bike list.
> Scott
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Garth  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I speak from a place of having given all, "complying" to all the implied 
>> powers that be, and yet all was never enough, more was never enough.  Yes, 
>> call it hell, but in the midst of nowhere left to turn but your Self . . .  
>> funny things seem to happen, you ask true honest questions within yourself, 
>> and you receive true honest answers from within, not what someone else 
>> claims is true, but a truth not relative to anyone or anything, really your 
>> very Self.   So, who would the criminal be anyways , the "powers that be" 
>> ?  Garth, Steve, John/Jane Doe, the law, the lawyers, the cops, the perps, 
>> any of "they and them" ?   Nope . . . none are . 
>>
>> "forgive them for they know not what they do"  
>>
>> and that's all 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:44:13 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> You try running from a cop who wants to write you a ticket for running a 
>>> stop sign or in some jurisdictions, failing to come to a foot-down stop 
>>> at a stop sign.  I'm not threatening you, just pointing out that what 
>>> you're suggesting could be a very dangerous course of action.  There are 
>>> very few "kids on bikes" reading this list. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Scott Henry]

Please if you are going to be disparaging the work of America's police
forces, do it someplace other than a bike list.
Scott

On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Garth  wrote:

>
> I speak from a place of having given all, "complying" to all the implied
> powers that be, and yet all was never enough, more was never enough.  Yes,
> call it hell, but in the midst of nowhere left to turn but your Self . . .
> funny things seem to happen, you ask true honest questions within yourself,
> and you receive true honest answers from within, not what someone else
> claims is true, but a truth not relative to anyone or anything, really your
> very Self.   So, who would the criminal be anyways , the "powers that be"
> ?  Garth, Steve, John/Jane Doe, the law, the lawyers, the cops, the perps,
> any of "they and them" ?   Nope . . . none are .
>
> "forgive them for they know not what they do"
>
> and that's all
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:44:13 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You try running from a cop who wants to write you a ticket for running a
>> stop sign or in some jurisdictions, failing to come to a foot-down stop
>> at a stop sign.  I'm not threatening you, just pointing out that what
>> you're suggesting could be a very dangerous course of action.  There are
>> very few "kids on bikes" reading this list.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Garth]

I speak from a place of having given all, "complying" to all the implied 
powers that be, and yet all was never enough, more was never enough.  Yes, 
call it hell, but in the midst of nowhere left to turn but your Self . . .  
funny things seem to happen, you ask true honest questions within yourself, 
and you receive true honest answers from within, not what someone else 
claims is true, but a truth not relative to anyone or anything, really your 
very Self.   So, who would the criminal be anyways , the "powers that be" 
?  Garth, Steve, John/Jane Doe, the law, the lawyers, the cops, the perps, 
any of "they and them" ?   Nope . . . none are . 

"forgive them for they know not what they do"  

and that's all 






On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:44:13 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>  
>
> You try running from a cop who wants to write you a ticket for running a 
> stop sign or in some jurisdictions, failing to come to a foot-down stop 
> at a stop sign.  I'm not threatening you, just pointing out that what 
> you're suggesting could be a very dangerous course of action.  There are 
> very few "kids on bikes" reading this list. 
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Thinking about selling my Rambouillet

[Joe Bernard]

I'll second Keith's thoughts about tires. I've owned a blue Ram and its cousin 
Romulus, both with 28s, then Pasela 32 on the Rom, and they rode like a dream. 
Fat tires are great, but the Rambouillet doesn't really need them.  

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[RBW] Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

[Bill Lindsay]

I would have no hesitation whatsoever to trying a good lowrider on a 
Rambouillet. My personal favorite it the Nitto F27, but many people think that 
is too much money to spend on a rack.  I think it's a bargain at the going 
price. 

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[RBW] Re: Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

[John Hawrylak]

Kieran

With all due respect, buying a low cost front low rider, Tubus Tara for 
example approx. $120, and trying it seems a better choice than a new fork.

The feedback from Steve, Kai, and Patrick appear to show the Ram can handle 
a moderate front load well, and heavier loads if balanced front to back.  
I'm sure if Patrick was to haul 40lbs total a lot, he would split it front 
to back.  The fact 40lb was handled OK with sluggish steering indicates a 
low rider would be no problem.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 11:51:50 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

> I will add that the most extreme (and yet possibly most logical) option 
> would be to commission a new low-ish trail fork from Tom Matchak or another 
> builder, and powder the whole shootin' match. 
>
> I'm wanting to reserve that as a last and most sensible/costly resort.
>
> KJ
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

[John Hawrylak]

As Kai from Brooklyn pointed out, the key for a 'normal' trail geometry is 
balance the load front to back.   Rear loads are more difficult on low 
trial.  The 'no free lunch' proves true again.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ


On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 4:24:49 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Hope everyone is having a nice holiday season!
>
> I'm curious about how the Rambouillet handles with different configs of a 
> front load. I've only ever really used a small Swift Bandito up on the 
> handlebar, but never anything more substantial. 
>
> Have any Ram owners ever: 
>
>- somehow run low-rider panniers on the stock fork?
>- run low-rider panniers and an additional front bag on the stock fork?
>- had success with an aftermarket fork with a different trail figure?
>
> Long story, I'm thinking of having a couple mods done to my Ram and new 
> powder done (the Creamsicle is cool, but doesn't match anything - 
> especially not all the red clothing I have). I would consider adding 
> mid-fork eyelets if running front low-riders appears to work well for the 
> bike.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Kieran
>
>

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Re: [RBW] IQ-X Headlight

[Anton Tutter]

Your IQ-X has a metal mounting bracket? I wonder if they changed the design 
from the first production units. Mine (an early one) has a one-piece split 
plastic mounting ring with plastic tabs. Can you take a picture of yours?

Anton
velolumino.com


On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 2:21:32 PM UTC-5, William deRosset wrote:
>
> The lens/reflector cover is plastic. If it is like the Cyo lenses, it will 
> survive winter fine. It will eventually get scratched and yellow from 
> environmental exposure. However, a headlight restoration kit from the auto 
> parts store will fix it right up, based on my experience with the Ixon and 
> Cyo reflector covers. In the case of the Cyo, the cover generally outlasted 
> the plastic mounting ear for the light. The IQ-X has a metal mounting 
> bracket, which solves the only substantive problem I had with the Cyo N. 
>
> My long-awaited Kelpie will use the IQ-X headlamp as part of the 
> integrated lighting system (along with a Sinewave/Velo-lumino switch and 
> power supply). 
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Re: [RBW] Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

[Patrick Moore]

I never used front low riders on my Ram (one of the later ones, FWIW), but
I did have them built and installed on my 2003 custom, and the bike handles
10 per side very well, and I've carried 20 per side, which made the
steering sluggish.

As Steve said, there's a huge difference between carrying a front load up
high over the wheel, and on low riders.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:51 PM, Kieran J  wrote:

> I will add that the most extreme (and yet possibly most logical) option
> would be to commission a new low-ish trail fork from Tom Matchak or another
> builder, and powder the whole shootin' match.
>
> I'm wanting to reserve that as a last and most sensible/costly resort.
>
> KJ
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Re: [RBW] Re: Silent bell until needed/Using a bell

[Ron Mc]

I had a conversation with a lady one day whose black thin yo-yo leash was 
more than corner-to-corner across a greenway intersection.  It was 
invisible.  
Next time I saw her, it wasn't any shorter, but had a bright colored boa 
running from the dog.  
Yo-yo leashes are supposed to be outlawed on greenways, but it's not 
enforced.  

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 8:29:35 PM UTC-6, GAJett wrote:
>
> My excitement was with a dog not off-leash.  Instead the dog was on one of 
> those leashes on a reel that allow them to be 10 or 12 feet away from the 
> owner.  Came around a nearly blind corner (having slowed anyway out of 
> caution) and there was the dog on one side of the trail, the owner on the 
> other, and the leash tight between.  Got stopped OK, then the owner yelled 
> at the "dumb" dog. (Hint: It's not the dog that's dumb.)  Owner never said 
> a word to me.  Could have  been really ugly if I was going faster.
> Cheers.
>
> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 9:34:10 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Anecdote from a ride a few days ago: I was riding behind another cyclist 
>> who I didn't know. Ahead of us, a man was walking his dog off leash. The 
>> dog decided to walk across the bike trail into our path, forcing us to 
>> brake quickly to slow down. The guy ahead of me on the bike then decided 
>> that he needed to stop altogether so that he could chastise the dog owner 
>> ... making an already bad situation even worse. I had to veer to avoid 
>> running into him, the walker, and the dog.
>>
>> --Eric N
>> www.CampyOnly.com
>> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: girlfriend bike / crazy kickstand install

[MartyG]

>
> Looks like it must be an Esge. Here's one from Niagara:
>

 
http://www.niagaracycle.com/categories/pletscher-zoom-esge-adjustable-kickstand-silver



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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Steve Palincsar]

On 12/29/2016 08:20 AM, Garth wrote:
  He was no cop, and our "grown up" cops had better things to do than 
police kids on bikes.


Always the threat huh Steve ?The dead squirrel images you post.. . 
.  blah blah blah . . . .   the ol' "comply or die" mantra.   Comply 
to who ?




You try running from a cop who wants to write you a ticket for running a 
stop sign or in some jurisdictions, failing to come to a foot-down stop 
at a stop sign.  I'm not threatening you, just pointing out that what 
you're suggesting could be a very dangerous course of action.  There are 
very few "kids on bikes" reading this list.




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[RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Philip Kim]

I use a MUP to work everyday. I always ring my bell to alert them once I'm 
within  20-15 feet or so. And if they don't acknowledge by moving to the 
side, then they probably have headphones in and didn't hear me, and I'll 
ring again once I'm within 7 feet and slow down. Then I'll usually say 
"How's going?" or "Thank you" as I'm within ear shot.

I've used the same MUP as a runner on the weekend and felt some sort of way 
when a bike sped past me without warning.

You don't really state how fast your ride, or how slow you slow down. Most 
bikers on the MUP ride around 15-20 mph, which is 3-4 times faster than a 
runner, and 5-10 times faster than a walker. Even if you slowed down to 10 
mph, it's still pretty fast compared to someone who is walking. 3-5 feet 
when someone is going by that fast without warning can be pretty unnerving.

Of course passing without warning is fine if there are no accidents, but it 
mostly benefits you as a rider and not the pedestrian. So that doesn't 
really acknowledge pedestrians having the right-of-way.

You're right, it can be incredibly frustrating when pedestrians don't hear 
you or yell at you when you're trying to bike to work or go about your 
business and trying to do the right thing, and I've too questioned "what's 
the point?". I think more bicycle to pedestrian interactions can make the 
MUP a safer and bicycle-friendly path. It's hard enough getting paths to 
allow bikes to be ridden on it as is.


On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 8:33:06 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
>
> Do you think it's ok, when riding on the path, if you can pass a 
> walker/runner/family, safely with 3 feet to spare, to go by without 
> warning? That means not saying "on your left" or something else, or not 
> ringing your bell if you have one. I ask because I was riding my Roadeo 
> today (50 degrees here in KC!) and it doesn't have a bell yet. A bell is my 
> much preferred method of warning that I'm there. But I find that many 
> people are startled by a bell just as much as "on your left." Or they have 
> earbuds in and don't here you. Also, my experience with "on your left" is 
> that 50% of the people who hear that, move to their left. I ALWAYS ride 
> with the knowledge that pedestrians have the right of way, NO MATTER WHAT. 
> I give a wide berth to others, really slow down when there's a family, and 
> try to smile and be friendly. But the more I think about it, it really 
> seems to me that a warning of any type only works with about half of the 
> people out there. On the other hand, I passed a woman one day without 
> warning her, she was on the far right and I was on the far left, at least 5 
> feet away, and she was pretty nasty about letting me know she didn't like 
> it. So sometimes it seems like you just can't win. What do you all think?

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Re: [RBW] Front Low-rider Panniers on Rambouillet?

[Kai Vierstra]

I've got front lowriders on my Quickbeam and it rides great with a balanced 
load.
-Kai 
Brooklyn NY 

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