Re: [RBW] Anyone using a RBW Nitto Basket Rack on a Clem H?

2020-01-10 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Joe: disagree! 藍 On Friday, January 10, 2020 at 9:21:38 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: > > I've already reported my disdain for basket loads on Clems, but the short > version is bo!!! Rivbikes aren't designed for it (in spite of all the > ones they build that way) and I think it should be

[RBW] Geo Question

2020-01-10 Thread Hugh Smitham
Also thanks for that website Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on

[RBW] Geo Question

2020-01-10 Thread Richard Rios
Hey Hugh, Hope all is good. Just as a general observation I find adding the degree by which the top tube upslopes to the seat tube length gets ya pretty close. Not sure why Riv hasn't gone to sizing by stack rather than seat tube. I think the stack gives a better idea of how the bike will

[RBW] Geo Question

2020-01-10 Thread Hugh Smitham
Thanks Eric. I didn't think the stack was that much. Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Anyone using a RBW Nitto Basket Rack on a Clem H?

2020-01-10 Thread Joe Bernard
I've already reported my disdain for basket loads on Clems, but the short version is bo!!! Rivbikes aren't designed for it (in spite of all the ones they build that way) and I think it should be used soley for a light jacket and a couple pieces of fruit from the store. 5 pounds maybe, 10 is

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread Joe Bernard
I had a bronzey green Clem. If Leah thinks the blue shimmers like the sun is pouring throught it, wait til she sees THAT! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Geo Question

2020-01-10 Thread Eric G
609.5 per bikeinsights.com https://bikeinsights.com/bike-geometries/5cedbc58663b2d0017aa071d-rivendell-a-homer-hilsen-2019-mit-58 Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Geo Question

2020-01-10 Thread Hugh Smitham
Anyone know the stack height on a Riv 58cm A.H.H? TIA, Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Re: Tires

2020-01-10 Thread tc
Hey Carla, I've have a set of Jon Bon Pass ELs (35mm) on my Roadini ...Awesome, light, quiet, grippy, no flats ... and very cushy, zippy. Like they're not there. I have about 500 mi on them. Highly recommend. I have a set of Snoqualmie Pass (44mm) standard casing tires on my wife's 58 Sam,

Re: [RBW] Anyone using a RBW Nitto Basket Rack on a Clem H?

2020-01-10 Thread tc
David, I didn't have a basket on the rear. I use the Banjo Brothers Market Panniers , which are well-made, light, attach/detach quickly, relatively inexpensive, and ride low. Tom -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires

2020-01-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
If it was "a bill of goods" we'd all be experiencing problems, and that's just not so. On 1/10/20 10:03 PM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: I'm just glad someone finally used the words "fragile" and "Compass" in the same sentence. I think Jan has really sold folks a bill of goods. (And I

[RBW] Re: Tires

2020-01-10 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm just glad someone finally used the words "fragile" and "Compass" in the same sentence. I think Jan has really sold folks a bill of goods. (And I know many on here swear by them. Hello to the Patricks!) I've never had a sidewall cut in any other tire, ever, although I've always carried a

[RBW] Re: Tires

2020-01-10 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm just glad someone finally used the words "fragile" and "Compass" in the same sentence. I think Jan has really sold folks a bill of goods. (And I know many on here swear by them. Hello to the Patricks!) I've never had a sidewall cut in any other tire, ever, although I've always carried a

Re: [RBW] Anyone using a RBW Nitto Basket Rack on a Clem H?

2020-01-10 Thread David Bivins
> > Tom: I have used the Nitto big (rear) rack on my Toyo Atlantis and have hauled > 30 lbs of groceries like it wasnt’t there. Makes sense. I've carried more pounds than that in books in my rear panniers on my Civia; but in panniers. > I don’t know if it’s aesthetics or what, but people seem

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread Mark Roland
Yes. In fact the business I work for makes color matching booths used by manufacturers to check color under various light qualities. The greeny-bronze is amazing in person. It can go from a classic three-speed green to a more bronzey green to that almost yellow lime green in the sun. I'm glad

[RBW] Anyone using a RBW Nitto Basket Rack on a Clem H?

2020-01-10 Thread Drw
I’d guess that there’s an element of forgetting what front loads do, but also I’ve found the nitto racks with all the adjustable strut parts to be pretty wiggly. I imagine many will dispute this but the racks with the round strut clamp thing move around too much for me (marks, r-14 etc.). I was

[RBW] Velocity Quill experiences?

2020-01-10 Thread tc
Thanks to those who replied! The height of the Wuill maybe be a negative factor; have to check. All else seems great. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Anyone using a RBW Nitto Basket Rack on a Clem H?

2020-01-10 Thread tc
I have used the Nitto big (rear) rack on my Toyo Atlantis and have hauled 30 lbs of groceries like it wasnt’t there. I don’t know if it’s aesthetics or what, but people seem to want to carry heavy stuff up front. I don’t know why. Carry heavy stuff on rear racks, and most Rivs designed to carry

[RBW] Anyone using a RBW Nitto Basket Rack on a Clem H?

2020-01-10 Thread David Bivins
Hey all, I got this rack for my Clem H and installed it and put one of the large Wald baskets on top. I'm frankly surprised at how wobbly it makes me with not too much weight in it. Last night I overbought at Whole Foods (they have Topo Chico by the case), so I had a pannier on the back with a

[RBW] Re: FS: Closet purge! Filson Barbour Woolrich Holubar Rockmount Pendleton Giro Shimano...

2020-01-10 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
Lake shoes pending... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread tc
Bill, since you've put mileage on both a Rodeo and Roadini, what significant differences in handling, comfort, and feel would you list? Thanks, Tom On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 10:20:46 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > When I got my Nobilette Legolas, I asked myself "why don't they have

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread Joe Bernard
Someone's been reading this thread  https://www.rivbike.com/products/long-chain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread Joe Bernard
Yes, but I'm not explaining why it would still make sense if they say it, I'm explaining that it's an old theory which doesn't hold up well anymore. Even if they still say it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread Mark Roland
Yes, but on the other hand, both Will and Grant steered me toward a 59 Clem L. I am 5'10 (or at least I was a while back). They did not insist and immediately dropped it when I described my preference, but that was the predisposition. I believe my proportions are similar to Grant's and he

[RBW] Re: Tires

2020-01-10 Thread Adam Leibow
i've had great luck with Compass / Rene Herse standard casing tires- not quite as fragile as EL's and still very supple/fast. i have the snoqualmie pass on my sam and the antelope hill on my clem L. very spoiled. honorable mentions for other tires= WTB, Schwalbe as obvious choices. The schwalbe

[RBW] Re: Tires

2020-01-10 Thread Garth
Forte Metro ST 700 x 35 tires , from Performance/Nashbar online. I run them at 35-40 psi and they ride real nice. The cost about $14 each I believe. "You get what you pay for" in this case doesn't apply. you get a whole lot more. They have an error in their listing with weight listed

Re: [RBW] FS Medium Olive Sackville Saddlesack

2020-01-10 Thread John Rinker
Thanks Tom. Let me know. Cheers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread Garth
I see , thank you ! Apparently the email arrive in their own time. The Rodeo looks just like a Rodeo ;-) - As to the bit about the "secret menu", I always considered any mainstream production model Riv made as available as a custom, as it's not as if the know-how is lost,

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread Joe Bernard
Who likes wrenches? I do, so I shall throw one in the conversation! Y'all are correct that "get the biggest frame you can fit" was/is a Riv mantra about getting your bars up high where they belong, but it originated during the early days when Rivs still had mostly-level toptubes and sourcing

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
All Rivs that I have ridden have feel extremely nimble to shifts in weight for steering. If you like bikes that are really sensitive to steering input, then there is a huge variation in this sensitivity across Rivs. The Roadeo is steers beautifully--not twitchy in the least. The steering carves

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread Mike Godwin
I may have to claw it back. But then you could get a 62 Roadeo Mike SLO CA On Friday, January 10, 2020 at 4:06:50 AM UTC-8, John G. wrote: > Is this a sign that I should sell my 61 cm Roadeo so that I can get a 63 > cm Roadeo? Or is it a sign that I need TWO Roadeos? > > Also: Bombadils are

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread masmojo
I think part of my comment earlier about Leah (or anybody really) liking a bike if they have no point of reference, stemmed not only from Leah's experience, but my own as well. I got way too many bikes and many times what happens is there are a good many that won't be ridden for several

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Eric D., Paul C, and Shoji, thanks for answering my question. That makes me happy to have the 52! Shoji, yes, I am really enjoying my new bike. I have all the right bags and racks and have you *looked* at my fenders? 朗 I will get the long wheelbase bar for my rack and all will be well. I’m

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi BBDD, Happy New Year! And thanks to you and RBW contributors for this thread. Riv recommends larger size to enable handlebars to-be set in a higher position relative to the saddle. (Larger frames have longer head tubes, which means the stem is necessarily higher. Extra-long stems might not

Re: [RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread Paul Clifton
I think Riv recommends the largest size you'll fit because it can make it easier to get the bars high, relative to the saddle. Basically, on a bigger bike, your saddle is lower relative to the head tube, so the bars start out relatively higher than on a smaller bike where your saddle would be

[RBW] 26" road tires -- not yet dead

2020-01-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Perhaps of general interest and segueing from the earlier "cheaper than Compass options" thread on the RBW list, here is more information on Paselas and in particular Paselas versus Compass/Rene Herse. FWIW, YMMV, AFAIK, LMAO, ETC. Procrastinating on work, as usual, I Googled about and found more

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread Bill Lindsay
I have don't know for sure how you would tell the difference between a Nobilette and a Waterford Legolas. I know some Waterford bikes have "Waterford" cast into the rear dropouts, but I don't think it's all of them. I think the serial number may give a clue. Bill On Friday, January 10,

Re: [RBW] Re: Tires

2020-01-10 Thread Patrick Moore
This refers to the 559/26" x 1.25/32 Pasela.I hadn't looked for a long while, but good to know that Panracer still makes the 26 X 1.25" Pasela, and that Modern Bike and Amazon carry them: https://www.amazon.com/panaracer-Pasela-ProTite-Folding-Tire/dp/B01K871UYE?th=1=1

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread MoVelo
Bill I bought my Legolas second hand so not sure if it is Waterford or Nobliette. How can I tell the difference? thanks James Poulson On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 9:20:46 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > When I got my Nobilette Legolas, I asked myself "why don't they have Nobi > build

[RBW] Re: Tires

2020-01-10 Thread Matt Dreher
If you find that Compasses end up too fragile and expensive for your taste I highly recommend Panaracer's other tires, as they are Compass' manufacturer and many elements of them show up in cheaper tires. The Pasela is a regular mostly slick road tread with a very thin, flexible sidewall

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread Will @ Riv
That's actually a Waterford Roadeo pictured in the email, we don't have a Nobilette one yet. Regarding the seatlug, you can pick, either socketed or traditional. The default is traditional. -will -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread Scott Calhoun
Yes please, link to the photo! I can’t seem to find the photo on Rivs site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: How & when & why did you find Rivendell? What was your first bike or part from them?

2020-01-10 Thread Mike Godwin
It started with me from co-workers in Oakland CA talking about BOB while on rides, and doing group orders by mail to Bike Nashbar, so 91-92 ish. I sent in my post card to be a BOB, but shortly after mailing, I think BOB folded and resurfaced as Rivendell. The first "readers" were several 8.5x11

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread Scott Calhoun
I don’t like the price of the RH crankset, but if you want an 11 speed compatibility, 177mm arms, a very narrow Q factor in a subcompact double (I’ve run 30/46 and 32/48), there are no other options that I know of. IMO the RH style looks perfect for a Roadeo. If you can live with 170, 175

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread Jock Dewey
Indeed. That configuration is the latest RIV design. Not my cup o' tea, but certainly rock solid! Jock Dewey / Athens, GA On Friday, January 10, 2020 at 10:59:34 AM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote: > > I have a 59cm Roadeo ( 3+ years old ) and I noticed in the picture of the > new Roadeo that the

[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread 'Eric Myers' via RBW Owners Bunch
This has been an interesting thread to read, for sure. My sense from riding mostly older bikes was that head tube angle + trail + front center length + hand position affected steering and handling more, while rear center (chainstay) and overall wheel base affected smoothness of ride. The

[RBW] WTB - Nitto lugged Seat post 27.2 for my Quickbeam

2020-01-10 Thread chris feczko
Someone is selling one in bk on cl. https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bop/d/brooklyn-nitto-s84-lugged-setback/7041903356.html Chris Queens -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread Don Compton
I have a 59cm Roadeo ( 3+ years old ) and I noticed in the picture of the new Roadeo that the conection of the seat lug and the seat stay looks different. Just an observation. On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 4:04:03 PM UTC-8, Jock Dewey wrote: > > Hey, Y'all: > > Pic of new Nobilette ROADEO on

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread Joe Bernard
Bombadil and Wilbury/Glorius are whatever the custom price is now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: WTB - Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass Tires

2020-01-10 Thread Christopher Wiggins
Hello, For your consideration. https://thepsychicderailleur.com/product/compass-snoqualmie-pass-700x44/ Chris On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 12:16:19 PM UTC-5, Friend wrote: > > Used or new, one or a pair. I'm located in VA. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread Garth
This reminds of sports broadcasters on the radio who get so caught up in the action that they forget the medium they are working with and proceed as if it's TV and everyone is visually seeing it as they are ...oops ... *there are no pictures on radio ! * A direct link of said pic would be

[RBW] Re: New ROADEO

2020-01-10 Thread John G.
Is this a sign that I should sell my 61 cm Roadeo so that I can get a 63 cm Roadeo? Or is it a sign that I need TWO Roadeos? Also: Bombadils are still an option? Anyone know what a Bomba costs? I have all the parts I’d need to build one up... -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Can we talk about long wheelbases?

2020-01-10 Thread Lester Lammers
You can't expect the LWB Rivs to handle like a sport or racing bike. They don't and weren't designed to. They are different. I have a MIT Atlantis and it is unlike any bike I have owned. I was not sure what to expect but once I got it dialed in it's a joy to ride. Horses for courses. On