How large are the side pockets on the medium saddlesack? Can you fit 2
rolled up tubes in boxes in a side pocket sack??
The pictures show the side pockets almost flush with the bag, leaving very
little depth. Maybe just an illusion.
I am used to the side pockets on a Carradice type bag and
John
Yes, 700x32 size tube. Sorry about neglecting to mention tube size
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 8:55:57 PM UTC-4, John McBurney wrote:
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> I’ll check but I’m pretty sure. The side pockets are big. What size tube?
> 700x32?
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Ok, I found it using your link and the SEARCH function. Thanks. Before I
used the bike type and selected Rivendell. Only had the MIT models
The frame size is C-T and accounting for the 2° upslope, the Eff TT hits
the seat tube 2cm higher than the actual TT, giving a C-T frame size
Jonathan K
Thank you so much. The stack & Reach are on the far right hcih RBW seemed
to blank out in the 2017 chart.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 11:37:10 AM UTC-4, Jonathan K. wrote:
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> I saved this a while back. It should have what you're looking for.
>
> Jonathan
Does anyone have a link to the older RBW Geo charts giving the Stack/Reach
for the MUSA frames?? Currently, the RBW site for the MUSA frames give all
but stack & reach. A search for 'stack and reach' turns up posts pointing
the these charts. Really need Stack/Reach for a MUSA 52cm AHH.
Alan
The AHH fits me, as far as I can tell using stack/reach/STA/HTA and my
current cockpit length on a 21" 1988 Schwinn Voyaguer (the 21" is 53cm C-T
which is the same as a 52cm C-C AHH).However, having medical problems
with carpal tunnel in both hands I need to resolve. If the AHH is
Marty
Did you use the Pletscher stays with the Nitto stay bolts or did you use
Nitto stays? Can you provide a close picture of the rack and the stays?
Really a nice concept and execution.
I have 3 old Pletscher racks and would love to try this on one of them.
What model did you modify?
Paul
The Compass site shows a 700C 50/51mm Honjo fender (H47/H50) accommodates a
max tire size of 38mm.
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> Aha—hadn’t seen that, thanks. I wonder how the Honjos vary from SKS terms
> of capaciousness.
>
> —thanks
> Paul
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> On May 30, 2019, at 20:40, 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Paul
>
> Th
Paul
Here is a link to Compass recommendations of tire sizes for Honjo fenders,
with a listing of fenders and tire sizes.
It also shows the original idea of fender size being 40% greater than tire
size, so a 38mm tire requires a 53.2mm fender. a 50 mm fender is 31.5%
wider than 38mm
Sorry, here's the link
https://www.renehersecycles.com/fenders-for-different-tire-sizes/
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Check out what Marty Gierke did with an old Pletscher rack on a All rounder
in this post
My 25th Anniversary Rivendell
John Hawrylak
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> Howdy folks.
>
> Despite the whole front basket thing, AFAIK GP has
Marty
I looked at my Modell C and RS racks and see if you just cut the spring the
whole trap comes off. I test fitted the RS on my 1988 Schwinn Voyaguer and
it seems mouse trap does not interfere with the SKS P45 fenders I have
(700x32 tires). The height of the brake bridge sets the rack
Marty
Thanks for the additional information. Any advice on removing the
mousetrap without destroying the rack?
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I did look at Bike Insights before posting. It did not have the MUSA AHH,
only the MIT.
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> Be sure to check out this site, too:
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Very nice, especially the rear rack. Can you explain what you did to the
rack other than remove the spring trap. I see you bolted the curved end
into the brake bridge. What about the stays?
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It just seems to me wool priced it itself out of contention since the mid
1980's. The synthetics seem to be just as good, wash easily (don't use Cl
beach) and cotton is everywhere. Just a simple observation over the years.
A few folks in the local club came back from 2 weeks in Scotland and
Saw the new Dia Compe 610 CP brake on RBW and the Grant 'post' stating the
use of a lighter return spring (June 2018 post). Thought these might be a
good CP brake for a 'new' frame, but using CP braze-ons. This frees up the
crown hole..
If you remove the rear mounting plat, can these be used
can you provide a few additional pics of the Medium. The Blue looks darker
than the Blue o the RBw site
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 8:12:49 PM UTC-4, Tim Bantham wrote:
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> Hi All, I still have the Medium Blue Sackville that I'd like to sell. How
> about $150
Mark
Wouldn't be nice if RBW told you this when you bought the frame (VBG)?? An
informed consumer is the best customer.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 8:19:52 PM UTC-4, esoterica etc wrote:
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>
> I came upon this same issue as I’m building up a Clem (with similar
>
The chain length calculation for a 52cm stay (53cm MIT-Atlantis) with a 46
ring and 36 cog gives 124 links. So your just about correct.
Stay lengths > = 48cm typically require >116 links. The MIT-AHH's should
just fit a 116L chain (stay = 47.5cm), depending on the large ring and big
cog..
before
> and after Zipping it up. HTH.
>
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:22 AM John McBurney > wrote:
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>> I looked at it today and think 2 tubes in boxes would fit fine. I’ll try
>> to take a picture and sent that after work.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Mo
John G
Great report and glad it worked out for you. Seems like the Roadeo worked
out for exactly as deisgned
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 2:54:15 PM UTC-4, John G. wrote:
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> Last fall, I traded my Atlantis to a bunch member for his Roadeo. Over the
> winter, I
Andy
Great ride report, as a former native Pittsburgher, I enjoyed the photos.
2 questions:
Where was the 1st photo taken on the river at 1st light? I would say the
Mon at the old J Southside works, the bridge would be the Birmingham
(successor to the 22nd St).
Emerald View Park on Mt
The table has 2 typos, the REACH is C-C, not C-E, and the B135 reach was
C-E. Corrected tale below
Reach (C-C) Drop
Flare RiseMax Width
B132 12.211.0
Chris
Here is a listing of 4 Nitto bars, same or similar to your list, with drop,
reach, flare, rise (on randonneur type), all dimensions in cm, Reach is
Center to Center (note, Compass Randonneur is spec’d Center to End so C-C
= C-E-1.1)
Is the pouch included?? Not shown in the photos
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
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Marty
I always found it windy in 1 direction on route 1 and was glad to have a
lower gear going into the wind. Nice picture of the new bridge.
Is the rack the Plestcher model S you modified for Nitto drawbolt and
mounting the front to rack mounts??? Sure looks good on the bcak, height
Ty
What size fenders do you have on it? How is the front bag attached at the
top? Don't see a decailluer.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 3:12:44 PM UTC-4, Ty Graham wrote:
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> Compass 700x44, I forget what they’re called. I’m a huge fan of the 700x38
> Barlow Pass.
Craig
Are the new and used the SAME size??? the used ones look smaller.
How do they attach to the rack?? Clips on top and an elastic strap to the
bottom??
These are tempting since I already have the S2 saddle bag in same color
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>> Craig
>>
>> Are the new and used the SAME size??? the used ones look smaller
On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 10:50:01 AM UTC-5, Jason Fuller wrote:
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> Hi all, I apologize if this has been discussed to death already but I
> couldn't find this specific topic discussed by searching.
>
> I am curious if anyone here has riding experience with both the new
> geometry
Deacon
What about taking a pair of jeans to the tailor to have the turned into
knickers?? Thinking off the wall.
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Great report and very nice looking custom. 3 questions:
* What are the frame angles?
* How much head tube extension is there? Looks like more than 1"
* Are you cutting the steerer tube flush at the top or are you going to
extend the steerer tube and use spacers?
John Hawrylak
Woodstown
How long did you use the Tektro levers??
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Are these Sugino rings & are they 110/74 mm?
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Woodstown NJ
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> Let's make that $30, $30 and $20 shipped, the big ring - which will be the
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This thread fron the I-Bob list
Confused about Seat Tube Binder Bolts
discusses seat post binder bolts. I believe it is M6 bolt. Greg Reiche
(?) recommend machine threads (or fine, not coarse) if you go English.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Thursday, March 5, 2020 at 7:32:56 PM
James
Thanks for the clarification. This was what I was looking for, but
probably did not ask too well.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 3:15:10 PM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles
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> Crit bikes have high BB's because you need to pedal thru turns. Riv style
>
Clark
Great report and a very nice build from the photos. You mentioned the
Atlantis climbs better than your other bikes. Any ideas or reasons why
this is so??
I noticed all MIT Atlantis have a 72° STA and with your 89cm PBH, a 1°
slacker STA (from 73° to 72°) results in a 1.3cm increase in
Wayne
was the 'stiff link' a link you inserted the pin into or was it just a
random pin on the chain??
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Can anyone post a link to the older, 2017 Geometry charts?? Want to see
geo for the MUSA AHH.
I tried the search in the RBW Owners Group, but could not find a link. The
RBW site seems to have only the current, 2019, chart.
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Can you post a picture of the VO saddle bag and the VO rack?
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> Corona Clean Up of the Garage...
> Apologies in advance for any "For Sale" faux pas, as this is really my
> first attempt at
Joe
Great out of the box choice in picking a red contrasting head tube.
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Past and current Rivendell models with 700C wheels have Bottom Bracket
Drops (BBD) in the 75 to 80 mm range. The exceptions seem to be:
GusBothWilson at 70mm, Legalos at 70mm, and Quickbeam at 73mm.
Is it common to have pedal strikes while turning?? Perhaps, you avoid
pedaling when turning
Lambdo stated: " I have what I think is an 11 speed shimano cassette with
one gear missing to make it 10,"
Perhaps getting a 10 spd cassette would help, assuming you have a 10 speed
hub. Or a cassette which matches the hub you have
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at
Steve
Would using a button head bolt provide more clearance to the rear tire.
The cap head bolt seems very close to the tire.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 5:14:36 PM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:
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> Here they are:
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>
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:36:28 PM UTC-4,
Steve
The Actual Wrap Capacity you have is 49T, based on your 44/24 rings and
11/40 rear (20 + 29 =49). The RD-M772 is designed for Wrap Capacity of
45T. The Actual Wrap exceeds the Design.
Does it shift to all cogs in the small and large rings, or do you plan on
avoiding certain combos
Joe
Sent you a PM on Thur 3/5
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Wednesday, March 4, 2020 at 3:18:51 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Pulled from a brand new crank.
> 50t - $40
> 36t - $30
> 24t - $20
>
> All prices shipped, make offer for all 3 shipped together.
>
> Joe Bernard
> joeremi62 gmail
Doug
You stated: "BTW, you only need 8 gears per Grant."
I remember back around 1999, when 9 speed was everything" Grant saying 7
speeds is all you need. Did not believe it at first. After riding an 88
Schwinn Voyaguer for 8 years with a 7 speed 13-34 cassette and a 46-36-36
triple, I'm a
23" Schwinn Voyaguer from 1984 to 1989. Designed as a Touring bike with
all the frame attachments and forks with low rider attachments. Columbus
Tenax tubing and CroMo stays and forks. 126mm OLD rear.
Disclaimer, I have a 88 Voyaguer, no real complaints.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On
Joe
Beautiful frame/fork and very nice build.
Do you know the upslope angle of the Top Tube??? Looks fairly steep,
almost as much as a mixte.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
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Same shade of Orange used in the Jeep Sport vehicle. Not flat, but with
some metallic in it to shine..
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The Bicycling Science chapter did not discuss the of bars, but all the
figures were the standard -17° stem with drop bars. So I would assume John
Allen had drop bars in mind in his 2001 communication to Wilson. Also,
Patrick's question concerned drop bars, not swept back bars.
My
In an earlier post on the new Sam Hillborunes coming in Sept,
“New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall” 5/16/20
The discussion went OT to the longer top tubes RBW uses in the MIT
Atlantis, and the need for shorter stems when using drop bars . Patrick
Moore expressed concerns about
Looks very nice, but why a 0° stem angle vs the 'standard' -17° angle???
Do they need more bar rise?? The -17° angle is plain sexy on a road bike.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 6:52:06 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
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> Just saw in the latest newsletter that
Bob
Thanks for the link highlighting the Seastreak ferry parking Lots #1, #2,
#3, & #4 as well as the text descripton. It was a very big help. I was
using Bing Maps and they show Hennessey Blvd as West Ave.
I suggest meeting in Parking Lot #1, at 1st Ave and Sutton Way. It
appears paved
Roberta
Do you think we need any more directions for the folks coming??? The train
and ferry NYC folks seem to know what to do. Are the driving "directions"
adequate wrt to getting there and parking. Fairly simple: Get to GSP
South to Atlantic City, get off at NJ SR36, take SR36 to
Bob
Concerning parking in Atlantic Highlands for those coming by car, you
suggested:
"I suggest the Atlantic Highlands meet-up location be the parking lot along
First Ave (left side as you head toward the pier)."
I looked at the map and the entire left side of 1st Ave seems to be a large
Ben
I missed the fact you are actually using a triple with only the middle and
inner rings. Same math except Front triple CL = 46.0 mm for the Middle
Ring. I dont know the Middle to Inner ring spacing, but on my XD2 is is
about 8 to 9mm.
A front CL of 46 and a rear CL of 42.5 (130mmOLD)
Ben
I think calculating:
The front chainline for the outer and inner rings of the doubleand
comparing them to
The rear chainline for the #5 sprocket (mid point of a 9s)
AND THEN calculating which sprocket lines up with the 2 rings will give the
minimal wear combination.
Then
Half Mitts may be weird but they really work. I bought a pair of Half
mitts (with thumb) from a list member. Use then in cooler weather and
winter, and they work GREAT. Hands stay nice and warm and are easier than
regular gloves to take off.. I think the wind blocking goes a long way to
Andy
In the past, RBW recommended a Shimano XT-M781AX6S as a FD for triples. It
is 31.8 and comes with shims for 28.6. I use it with a Sugino 46-36-24 and
works fine. Make sure to get the on which allows bottom cable routing. It
may not be current
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
John
Steve
$23 shipping from Japan does not seem too bad, about $8 /tire
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Joel
Have you considered the Tange BB RBW sells via Merry Sales?? Should last
a lifetime with normal repackings. The 11 ball retainer is available as a
Campy spare part..
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/bottom-brackets/products/sd16klsej-lkangkn
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I'm OK with 10/17 and the Atlantic Highlands sound good. I only know the
area from doing the Cranbury 200K in 2016.
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Woodstown NJ
On Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 6:22:00 PM UTC-4, Brady Smith wrote:
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> If the 17th is the weekend for this ride, I’m all in. Atlantic
>
Roberta
I was thinking of 12-14 mph on flat ground, others could go faster, but I'm
content with slower pace. The HHT is a railroad bed, so grades are minimal
and gradual.
We could start at the east end of it (by Highlands), if distance to Sandy
Hook is too great. It saves 12M and about
A possible Start/End could be the Henry Hudson Trailhead at Broadway/Lloyd
Rd/Gerard Ave in Aberdeen/Keyport. Looks like 32 parking spots at the
trail head. The Matawan train station looks to be < 1M and has city
streets to the trail head for the NYC folks.
12M along trail to Popamora Point
Bob
1st Ave and Hennessey appears to be be the Shore Casino with plenty of
parking and hopefully restrooms. It seems like a good Start/Finish point.
This would be the 20/25M loop out to Sandy Hook
Driving seems to be GSP to NJ36 near Matawan and then NJ36 to AH and 1st
Ave. There don't
The east west portion (along Raritan Bay) covers the same area as the
Cranbury 200K. The view from the Highlands is nice especially if it is a
clear day. 10/17 sounds good to me.
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I would perfer the Hudson Trail area. Sandy Hook sounds nice. I think Mt
Mitchell Overlook is a nice view with the climb coming from the west.
Is parking available???
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ .
On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 8:22:18 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
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> What kind of rides
Still a glow in the dark color, even the postage stamp sized pic has the
tape jump out at you. I think it looks great, just a glow in the dark.
Don't get the tape dirty.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 3:11:39 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> That was the
Looks very good, a real glow in the dark color
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Bob
I got confused by Atlantic Highlands and a town further east called
Highlands. I see the difference now.
On the Bing aerial map the whole 1st Ave/Hennessey area in AH looks like a
parking lot with trucks with boat trailers (shouldn't be surprised close to
the water). Any particular spot
Bob
I had the same thought for the train riders: NJ Transit to Matawan, bike
the HHT to meet main group at either:
* HHT Activity Center at approx 1130 or
* Shore Casino, Ferry Dock in town at 1145 (ferry arrival)
Train riders could return to NYC via Long Branch or Matewan (if a longer
I checked the mileage from Atlantic Highlands to Sandy Hook light using
Bing maps. They show 9.3M, which is shorter than I thought.
So here is a summary with mileage rounded up:
Henry Hudson Trail (HHT), North Section, Matewan to Atlantic Highlands,
12M HHT brochure,
Roberta and others:
Tentative schedule for 10/17/20:
* People driving: Be ready to ride in Atlantic Highlands (AH) at the 1st
Ave/Hennessey parking lot at 1130
* Wait for NYC folks coming on the NJ Transit train scheduled in Matawan
at 1011 and riding to AH on the HHT. They should arrive by
Just bumping this to see if there is still interest in ride starting in
Atlantic Highlands NJ to Sandy Hook, NJ on 10/17
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 3:50:56 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:
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> Bob
>
> I got confused by Atlantic Highlands and a town further east
Good things come to those who wait
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Steve
Beautiful bike. What hubs and rims are you using?. Are they anodized
gold? look stunning
Also, is the chain stay protector original or did you install it. My 88
Voyaguer has the same type, metal with adhesive backing. I was wondering
if you have a source for it. I need to get a
Roberta
The Cranbury 200K is fairly flat and some NJ Rando person may have a
shorter version
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ, far southern NJ, The Garden Spot of the Garden State
On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 4:05:18 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
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> It won't be as big or as exciting as our wonderful
Joel
I looked at the VO website. The triple seems to use a tripleralizer design
for the inner ring. You need a special middle ring having the extension
and holes for the inner ring, sinc ethe crank has no casting for the inner
ring nuts. Something to consider.
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ.
John
Don't know what the OEMs use ot how the apply it, but agree it's last for
about 500M.
Does TriFlow attract dirt???
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 5:56:10 PM UTC-4, Whatcha Oughtter wrote:
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> Does anyone know what’s on chains when they are new out of the
Mark & Joel
VO also sells a replacement 34T ring with the triplerazier tabs for $50
https://velo-orange.com/collections/cranks/products/middle-ring-for-gc-triple-crankset-34t
If using the VO or Defiant, it may be wise to buy 1 or 2 spare 36T rings.
VO has a 20% off sale from time to time.
-4, Joel Stern wrote:
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> John,
>
> Actually I would like to go a bit more relaxed than the Bleriiot. That put
> the AHH in the same category as the Bleriot from what I have been reading.
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 3:49 PM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> r
Joel
Using Bill Lindsay's analysis and assuming 10% of the US population in
within 2H of Springfield MA, your chances of finding a 650B 50cm Atlantis
is less than 1 in 10,000. Suggest you pursue other methods.
Just checked RBW website and using the Bill Lindsay method of stock
Leah
All Bosco bars (CrMo or Al) are 25.4mm in the clamp area. Is the Nitto
Stem a 25.4mm or 26.0mm diameter clamp?
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Did you try your current AL bars in a DIFFERENT stem?? Did the bars
'tick' in the different stem???
I probably missed it in the previous posts. Get mixed up between all the
Technomics
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Sounds like a harrowing ride.
When you got home, was the nut on the stem clamp bolt loose??? If so how
much loose
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>From the video:
1. The stem seems to have excessive distance from the bolt to the 'shelf"
which stops the nut rotation. The excessive distance allows the nut to
rotate when tightened
2 The "shelf" flat appears straight and does not have a rounded out center,
as would occur if the bolt
+1 on what Hugh said.
Suggest also pulling the stem out and verify the quill is stamped with
"25.4" and NOT "26.0" for the clamp diameter. A mix up may have occurred
at Soma and they sent you a 26.0 stem.
The CrMo bars may have tolerated a clamp mismatch better than the Al bars
John Hawrylak
++1 on this.
The nut flats contact a 'flat' in the casting, and when you tighten the
allen in front, the 2 flats contact each other, and the nut does not rotate
as you tighten it. Visually check the BACK of the stem for the nut flat to
line up with the stem casting flat to line up.
I would
Leah
Based on everything so far, I think the problem is:
The stem clamp is oversized and not a 'true' 25.4mm clamp. It results in
insufficient clamp force on the AL bar allowing sipping, but provides
enough force on the CrMo bar to hold it in place.
Why: The Al bar does not creak in a
Leah
I'm sorry if "defective" implied "unsafe". I meant the stem does not meet
it's design and hence is defective. The Nitto design of the nut and shelf
interface has a small of margin of error, since the hex nut has short flats.
I do NOT think the stem is unsafe to ride since you used a
Bill
How did the cassette work on the test rides? Did you encounter
'annoyingly small" shifts?
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 6:37:47 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
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> The 12-21 indexes great in the stand, so I'll take it out on the hilly
> road standard The Three
Dave
Is the Grand Randoneur (25.4) bar a B135 or a B132??? I think a B135
since it is 25,4 clamp
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
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Leah
The pictures of the stem shelf were perfect. Sorry to hear the bolt was
too short.
The *direct cause *of the of the circular divot is Nitto drilled the hole
for the Stem Bolt *TOO LOW* in the stem clamp . The lower stem bolt/hex nut
resulted in the hex nut not being close to the shelf
Leah
You should not be left holding the bag on this. I suggest contacting RBW,
struggling or not, and see what they can do for you. RBW and Soma are not
at fault if the stem did not meet design, but RBW or Soma should step up
and see what they can do for you. Soma seems to be not responding
Paul
I agree with you that Nitto designed approx 1mm clearance for the hex nut
to shelf. I also agree it's a marginal design, and could be improved, but
it does work.
I should have cautioned Leah to look for 'excessive play' in the nut to
shelf which allows the nut to almost rotate fully.
Joel
You probably saw this, but a 54.5cm AHH is for sale on this
FS: 54.5 A. Homer Hilsen with extras
Might be worth an inquiry. Don't know if it is MUSA or MIT. The 56cm
EffTTL is too long for me with a 5cm stem and RH Randonnuer bars.
PS, you may need a shorter stem on the new MIT's
Aeroperf
Good idea on the 2 different hex nut sizes. When you say "I think you just
got a bad stem", can you be more specific about what the 'bad' is???
Are you saying Nitto substituted a JIS hex nut (12mm flats) when the
original design used a standard metric hex nut (13mm flats)??
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