Sounds like fun, Tom! Frank must be a great guy. We've ridden in quite a
few local cycling events, and thus far my wife's Betty seems to be the only
Rivendell in Fort Wayne. What bar and saddle are you starting with?
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Hi, Hugh. When my 1972 Sports Tourer started breaking spokes, Rich Lesnik
built new 700C wheels with Synergy rims on my original hubs, which look
like the Phil 'Rivy' hubs. Thus it needed no frame spacing change in the
rear; and the O/C rear wheel improved the strength of the 120mm-spaced
That investment casting story is superb. My riding buddies in the factory
have the link in their emails already.
New bike - It'll be too big for you intrigues me most! Back to the Bison?
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So beautiful. I enjoyed this very much, thank you!
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I bought a black Saddlesack M in the first batch, along with a Nitto QR
handle. It moves like this:
- take the bag to the bedroom to load up tomorrow's clothes
- leave the bag in the kitchen overnight to load up lunch before commuting
- take the bag to the locker room to change into jeans and
Hi John. I bought a Nitto Grip with a Saddlesack M, and have used it on
Brooks B15, B17 and B68, always with a rack under the bag - Nitto R14 on
Schwinn Sports Tourer, Pletscher on Specialized Sirrus, and Nitto Campee
on Rivendell Hillborne. Plays well enough with all of those. The
Couple years ago i pulled the outer ring off my XD2 triple and put on a
guard, leaving the 36-24 middle and inner rings as-is. The 36 was plenty
high for me with 11 cog on 8spd cassette, and I could get to all the
combos. New Hillborne runs guarded 40-26 with 12-34 8spd, and that's
great,
Was reading RR27 this morning - my favorite touring tale, Luka the
Wire-Haired Fox Terrier - and noticed the Vision Thoroughbred in the
adjacent article. There are similarities to the Appaloosa. The author
really liked that bike, and ended the story with a foreshadowing of things
to come...
Hi Tom! Similar story here - I bought the last green 60cm Hillborne
sale frame, which was a shop return. With custom paint it'll be only a bit
over $100 from new frame price - Yay! I'm at the low end of 60's pbh
range, figuring to use bosco bars and enjoy the extra retreat. I have an
After discussing experience, preferences and finances, Jared told me my
5'11 x 89pbh wants the 60cm, and he proposed the last green sale frame.
Given the frame discount, I asked about custom paint, and Keven Mowen
hooked me up. His painter's backlog was low enough that my frame could be
done
Great pictures, Earl! The Nitto front rack on that Bombadil - that's the
one I want. Same one that's on the lead Atlantis photo on Riv's site. The
big front rack sold today at Riv, as installed in the site video, obscures
the beautiful fork legs. I prefer the rack leg proud of the fork leg
I don't think it's a 2-strut. Take a close look at the drop-bar Atlantis
photo under Our Bikes at rivbike.com - that front rack is a pannier rack,
with a triangulated deck; wide, closed frame on the sides; and a loop at
the bottom. And it's different from the rear one.
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René, you are right - that is the current BRR on the front of the
photo-lantis. So the BRR will be my BFR. Nice. Thanks!
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Mark Abele confirmed it today - Nitto Highrider rack (Campee 35F).
That Atlantis also has a Nitto 33R on the back.
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From 60F to about 40F I wear plain leather work gloves, like yard gloves,
from the local farm supply (TSC in Indiana). They keep the wind off and
aren't hot as I warm up. Last pair was 11yrs old when I lost them, so
trying deer skin gloves this year from same shop. So far, even better
Larry,
I rode Alba/B17 combo for 2 or 3 years, 9mi commute each way, never over
55mi per day. Reach to the bars was longish, found myself holding the tips
often, so wasn't completely upright, but still got sore and stood every 3
or 4 miles to get comfortable again. I'm about 40# heavier than
enjoyed your pics. thanks! we ride the wheelway between Harbor Springs and
Bay Harbor when vacationing in Petoskey each summer. good times.
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Got my new Honey B68 from Ben's Cycle 2 months ago.
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After studying a Riv Reader report of their side-by-side drag test on
then-current Shimano and SON hubs, I purchased a SON28 x Velocity Synergy
36h wheel from Rich Lesnik, and it's performed beautifully
for several 1500mi+ riding seasons. Not many miles off-road, but I hop
curbs and
Manny's recent post included a couple of Grin Fundo intersects, but is
there a participant who plans a more complete ride report?
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Hi Clayton. So Sorry! You're farther down that road than me, so I'd
appreciate your advice in return. As far as riding goes, I'll offer
something.
My tingling, burning and yet numb finger symptoms went from tolerable to
not so, just one month ago. Although there was some aggravation/trauma
Just one - 1990 MB-1, biggest frame size offered. Early owner installed a
Manitou 2 bumper fork. I put in fresh elastomers last year, and it's quite
nice. The stock Ritchey stem was a neck-breaker race setup, way stretched
out, so I changed to a dirt drop and now ride pretty
I find motivation comes easy after eating well before the ride! Start
the fish (salmon or tilapia) sautee in olive oil with onions portabellos,
start the coffee, flip the fish and add fresh tomatoes and asparagus, prep
the strawberries, blue or blackberries and almonds, then load the plate
Teva. Bought at the August sidewalk sale in Petoskey, MI about 10 yrs
ago, for maybe $20. They look just like the ones I've since seen in pics
on rivbike, with a blue pattern on the straps. Sandal riding is relaxing
for me, and I'm easy on them. Held up through 1 yr on gripsters, 2 or
I bought one from the first batch- it's a black one, metal tag says serial no.
SSM-0009 - and even though it's just right for commuting, the urge keeps rising
to buy a tan in Large. It would really look nice on my pewter Sam. From my
experience, you did good.
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Def Large, but get all the sand out after the trip! I would use my basket for
the return trip. Se
ems like sand in your bag would be like sand in your shorts - rubbing things
raw.
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My favorite rides include my family. Yesterday wife, daughter and I rode to
Memorial Day parade, then downtown for lunch, then to nearby town to mow
in-laws' yard, then home. 4 legs, 30 mi total, great trails with my fav people.
We have it good.
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Re MTB chain stay length: my 1990 MB-1 is much easier to pedal on long uphill
trails than my 1987 Schwinn Sierra, and the Schwinn goes downhill like a rocket
rail sled in comparison to the B'stone. Those two bikes are kind of at extremes
of chainstay length - I think the MB-1 broke ground with
Good trick, making an eyelet-doubler. Careful with loading and angles, don't
want it moving around.
RivHQ told me my Sam wasn't designed for substantial front loads therefore
recommended Nitto mini+small basket not Nitto BFR+big basket. Seen a lot of big
ones since, so might as well save $ and
RCW, I too spent some time in music. Do you remember hearing a universal
tuning note called A440? Meaning the string, or whatever, moves 440 cycles
per second. So braking causes some components on your bike to vibrate at the
frequencies called high D (faster) and low E (slower). I spent less
At about 8yrs old (1969) Dad bought me a hardware-store bamboo fly rod, level
floating line, tied on light mono for leader, and mounted an old autowinding
reel just to store the line. Then for 4 years we stood side by side on
grandpa's wooden pier and fished dry flies for bluegills at sunset.
Midwest we have extensive containment for Emerald Ash Borer, such that on-site
fire prep is mostly splitting pallet oak or bundled pine. The GB 439 splitting
hatchet is really good attempt that, primarily due to head weight and grind.
Same head as 441 Riv sold; shorter handle but still easy to
What is this 32-22 bail-out of which you speak? You're not even under-geared
yet! You must be really strong from playing in thin mountain air.
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I started low-carb diet on Sunday 10/26, at 195# dressed for work. I
clicked over when Grant blogged that fat accumulating on the outside is an
indicator of things going on inside. So far the change has been relatively
easy - one grocery trip, some low blood sugars (like 47, 50, 53, 57)
Hi Amit,
I bought one of those flat-but-bent-back Nitto bars from Jitensha several
years ago. It's got the red Nitto heat-treat band around it, like the $65
unavailable one on the Jitensha Studio site.
I wanted more room outside the last bends, so I made some press-fit solid
6061 aluminum
My daughter's bike has a low-normal Shimano RD, Campy FD and Shimano indexing
MB shifters. We picked low-normal so thumbs make it harder, fingers make it
easier. We built it with a red 1987 Schwinn(Giant) steel frame, early
Stumpjumper quill stem with double clamps and riser bar, Rich wheels,
About setting up a long mountain bike: we have 1 long mountain bike, '87
Schwinn sierra, and one short mtb, '90 BstoneMB-1, and I have ridden same
rugged trail -/+ 300' elevation on both. The long one feels stable going down
fast, more work going back up. The short one feels easy to handle,
47Betty and 60Sam help us share good times and good memories.
57.5 Myster'aloosa comes together inconspicuously in the living room, while the
rest of the herd mills about impatiently.
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I ride in Riv's undies, socks, pants (green, blue, brown), sborts (boosuckers,
gray/blue, gray), wool tops and lots of Riv shirts. I consider all the pants
bike-specific despite assertions otherwise. And I don't care anyway. The rest
are truly universal. All are great.
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I ride in Riv's undies, socks, pants (green, blue, brown), sborts (boosuckers,
gray/blue, gray), wool tops and lots of Riv shirts. I consider all the pants
bike-specific despite assertions otherwise. And I don't care anyway. The rest
are truly universal. All are great.
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Thanks. That's the brake bridge bracket that came with the extra fenders. My
front tips have been prone to wander - not this one.
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Thank you, CampyOnlyGuy! Beauty well done. One visit to SF in 1983, longing to
return. That was a great fix.
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My mom had a 1940 Henderson Schwinn, like this. They got it right.
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Hi Bunch! I can report on a recent first ride. I am 53yrs old, 183#,
5'11 tall, 89 pbh, so a bit short of average in torso for my pbh. I
bought a brown Appaloosa prototype in size 57.5, which was designed
for 89-ish pbh according to the listing. I set my Brooks B68 at
77cm/30.5. The bike
A bike with an Appaloosa on the head badge! Spots, patches, shading - an
as-brazed steel frame can have it all, just like the horse. I would so do
that.
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Still in the living room, and I'm having fun detailing the brown mystery
bike. It arrived with 50mm Big Bens, followed shortly by P50 Longboards.
The lovely fork dropouts favor a rear-bias for the front fender stays. I
favor full protection for everything on my Mark's rack, including the
A beautiful mystery bike found a home. You know how fun this is!
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My wife rides a 47Betty. She uses panniers with a big (not very) Nitto rear
rack. It is solid and she has lots of space. Her bags came from Natril Gear.
I think Riv's hub area bags would be nicely scaled for the back of her bike,
but she likes more color. They look nice.
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Only 2hrs from Fort Wayne, fall camping in Michigan, and I'd like to meet each
of you. Please count me in if room allows. I will probably bring a long bike
with a horse headbadge. Thanks for sharing your ride with us!
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Unless warm, I wear my last pair of street shoes - currently Ecco something or
other. Sometimes sneakers, like when I am going to cut somebody's grass. I like
Chaco Paradox webby sandal-type shoes better than Tevas for warm weather
because they hide my hideous hobbit feet a bit more - but I use
Tom, your vida con velo consistently makes me smile. Thanks for kicking this
off and showing your lovely highlights. I will ride a 9-miler tomorrow before
daylight, and 26 miles home by way of a tool shop. Thinking picture will only
increase the fun.
Ben
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Perfect for me. I sometimes go all the way to top gear in a tailwind; much
more often to lowest gear climbing up from rhe riverbank. Both are just right.
Spacing between is fine. Front derailer is the CX70 for doubles. Gears are
40-26 front 12-34 x8 rear on a Bosco Sam.
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Discomfort on flat bar got me searching for a more neutral wrist position.
Jitensha version just flexed my wrists outward, still not comfortable. An
albatross, angled downward is neutral for me, and comfortable. Less secure
off-road than the brace against a flat bar.
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I ride nice bikes all the way across this spectrum, so while sitting out a
stormy day, I measured them. Stays first, rounded nearest:
46cm stable, smooth, fun down single-track - 49cm Schwinn Sierra -1987
43cm responsive, easy uphill/slow speed handling - 55cm Bstone MB-1 - 1990
46cm feels
My new issue of Bicyling mag has your bike on the cover. Story is about the
dude, no mention of the machine, but check out that bike. Lugs, fat tires,
discs, non-aero levers, dirt drop or woodchipper bar, basket, bags aplenty.
Magnificent. Story says he has a social media presence -anybody
This discussion has been helpful for me. Want to carry a big Long bike and a
tiny Betty Foy, both fendered, and the LBS acted justly by withdrawing their
offerings. Looking forward to your review!
Ben
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It is confusing what fits what, and how long they actually are. When fitting
fenders to a Rivendell mystery bike, I found that the rear longboard is the
longest extrusion available in any given width/radius combination, so I used
two of those to make my set to custom length. Made me think it
I enjoy flying on a rugged trail on medium tires in a skinny-tubed frame. I
get queasy thinking about some of those situations without the momentum,
though. When that rugged trail along a steep sidehill suddenly forces me to
stop and get off - there, didn't some of you just feel a flash of
Sounds fun Tony. Looks fun! Nuce bike. Question about RM013: how does your
hand and wrist position feel on the canted/angled brake lever bodies? You were
on drops a lot; did the levers force you there?
I am trying to choose between noodle and dirt drop bars on a sam, maybe
overthinking. Like
Social media thrives because I get to create myself. Here's an attempt to tell
the bikey truth about me:
1994 Schwinn taiwanese cruiser, whitewall fatties, ss/coaster brake. From wife,
first adult bike, last from
Schwinn at a LBS. Commuted on it when gas hit $4.
2005 Specialized Sirrus. Liked
Hi Marc. I checked out the Barry Roubaix site. Race-oriented, naturally, so it
looked tough to me. What would our picture look like?
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Thanks, guys, I had fun seeing it. What a beautiful dark blue sky there, too.
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I believe my '72 Sports Tourer has 14-34 freewheel and 54-40 rings. Each gear
seems to be the right space from the last one. It feels just right. Chromed
steel twin-stik shifters on the headset, 700x35 tires, centerpull brakes.
Riding it makes me happy.
My experience would not improve if a
The original 5sp freewheel that is.
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After a recent group ride, parking neighbor and I started loading up our bike
pairs concurrently, he to a hitch rack on a diesel Super Duty, me to F150 bed
and back seat. I spread the blankets, laid mystery bike in the bed, rolled out
and secured the bed cover, then removed 47cm Betty's front
Glad you asked, as I am on the same quest with a 60cm Sam, now redundant in
upright trim to a mystery bike. So many good responses!
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Tom, I've been looking forward to seeing your build. Are you still thinking
Henderson Schwinn?
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Interacting with Keven Mowen was fun, dynamic, and invigorating There's a cool
poster on my wall that reminds me of you, and there's a 73% dark chocolate
bike, too. Best regards, and a tailwind.
Ben Guthrie
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I would LOVE your pewter Hunqapillar, but I could only trade for it, which
would be a defeat on your quiver quest. It's a perfect fit to my bike wants,
though.
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I ride one of those Mystery Bike protovelos on 50mm Big Bens. Grant once wrote
that it was especially designed for flat-landish commuting. That's my modus
operandi, and we get along quite well. He wrote extensively in the Blug on what
he was up to while designing his own prototype long bike,
Thinking harder for Bill brought to mind an old Reader story about a man for
whom a Super Duty fork and frame facilitated a life-saving lifestyle change.
Maybe this crown goes that way? Maybe that's Buffalo talk?
Ben
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Hi Garth,
I bought one of the proto long bikes late in that program. Seems to me like it
was "an experiment, a step in the right direction, a successive approximation"
(says so on the decal) that led to the Cheviot, the first production long bike.
Mine has the horse head badge that will show
A brown "mystery bike" is my commuting bike. For me, the 50mm tires make it
wonderful, the long stays make it different, and the curvy tentacles make it
(nearly) unique. Based on my own saddle time on Sam and the long one, the
fat-tired Sam called an Appaloosa prototype, the one that started
When outfitting one of the long bikes Riv sold off last winter, I wanted an
Edelux II, but they were out of stock and short of wire at 60cm. Brian said he
was going to increase standard wire length soon, but I was not patient. Bought
a Luxos U and like it, no problems through this commute
Sure would if I could. I enjoy your instagram, and suspect that somebody in my
family will be ordering a copper bottle for my brown mystery bike. Best regards!
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Essentially it's a man purse (european carry all) and I am ok with that.
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I like my grabsack. I use it for glucose meter, food, phone and keys on fishing
trips, for which it's big. It'll fit a paperback or a ballcap, too, and the 4
or 20 pretty stones I bring back to show my wife. The extra space is in the
flat bottom panel that creates some width, which is not a
I built an '80's mtb for my daughter using a RR rear and 8-spd indexed
shifters. It is wonderfully intuitive with the clickers - thumbs make it
harder, fingers make it easier. Then I found a new take-off RR XT for $20 on
the discount table at LBS, from a lady who hated it on her new bike.
Widest tire that will fit my fork and chainstays, then just enough pressure to
prevent pinch flats and rim damage in specific landscape. On a '90 MB-1 that's
a big Schwalbe Dureme after trying Kenda Nevegal and old WTB tractor treads.
Dureme:s are tough and roll easily where I like ro ride.
I enjoyed your story, Leah. You're a good writer!
The new CEO I serve rides a carbon "triathlon" bike. When I met him we were
standing 20' from my mystery bike, and he was willing to take a look. Cast lugs
with gold-lined cutouts, lots of steel tubes (some curvy), leather saddle,
Brown mystery bike with pretty long chainstays, and a large Saddlesack. The
large Nitto Big Rear Rack from my 60cm Hillborne didn't work because the front
of the rack pushed up into the center of the large Saddlesack, even with
setback of a Nitto quick-release handle. Rack was too far back from
Sheila and I want to visit from Fort Wayne to ride the Monon trail from Carmel
into town. When we do we'll also come to see your shop, looks neat.
Ben
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Samsung S7 response, recently upgraded from Motorola Atrix. Love the photo
resolution improvement, helpful in my factory maintenance responsibilities,
although file size creates issues. My wife has an as-new Razor flip phone,
already a retro piece admired by 20-somethings wherever she flips it.
Steve, I love that image! My grandpa used to strike his match on his bald
scalp, which obviously impressed me. The 19th century created impressive people.
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JUST finished a ride on my big MB-1, using 10cm dirt drop stem with original
straight Nitto bar. Many days of rugged trails like this. Wrists still want a
little bar retreat, and neck wants no additional reach. I think the Riv
Bullmoose bar would be perfect if retreat offsets the extra reach.
Looking forward to warm! While not wishing my life away, I am playing with
destination possibilities for a trip to celebrate our 30th wedding anniversary
in late March. What is weather like in the bay area around 23-30 Mar?
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I rode Pasela Tourguard in 700x35 for a year and flatted once on a busy street;
Lil Bens for 2 years no flats; 700x50 Big Bens for 1.5 years now, no flats.
Feel the sidewalk cracks much less through 50's than 40's. I like 50 for
commute comfort and 40 for zipping around lightly. No more Pasela
If you're choosing between them before purchasing, and can afford either, then
you won't regret having the option to put more tire in the Atlantis. I have a
Sam on 38's and a mystery bike (long cool Sam) that rubs its 50's. I would
still like to run 2"tires with decent fender clearance. The
Handsome bike! Hearty approval.
I also swapped away a bullmoose bosco bar (from my mystery bike) but only in
order to gain adjustment of the bars angle. I LOVE the bullmoose for its solid
inflexibility, but sorely needed more down angle to reduce painful ulnar
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Mark,
I felt like an ass when it dawned on me that I had purchased the very frame you
introduced to discussion. I can be awkward and slow that way. When I saw some
45's with white trim become available, I called Vince and changed our order. I
love that white trim! So if you have interest,
Clementine frame is due tomorrow! We'll give her a nice early mtb kit amd
holler back. Know there is fun afoot in Fort Wayne.
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The Canada geese will be fine. They stay in our cold area year-round now, using
neighborhood ponds, golf courses, harvested fields. I didn't realize the
southwest was on one of their flyways. I would winter there if I could, too.
My brother-in-law the psychiatrist oversees all of the public
Thanks Manny, fun to see your outing, and to read from you again.
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At the other end of the "kid" spectrum, I just bought a black 45cm Clementine
blem frame. My 23 yr old daughter and I will transfer components from her '87
Schwinn Sierra ( BB too high ) to make this into her Boss Clementine mountain
bike. Gnar, etc.
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I found Grant's incident interesting because I did the same thing - not enough
chain for big-big combo, and it locked me up. My case was 54-34 combo on '72
Schwinn Sports Tourer, which I tried to hit after flying fast down a valley and
up the other side, fogetting to drop to the 30 ring. In my
Jim, enjoy your new life! Available trumps perfect.
Ben
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Hi Justin,
I didn't catch what kind of car door you have, but if it's the only entry,
maybe you could secure the bikes (and the other contents) by locking down the
door. The floor lug idea sounds promising; maybe apply that to the door and be
done with it. One item to lock (or lock two doors to
I share a locker room with bradley (round) sinks and a floor fan, no showers.
Muggy mornings arrive early, take off sweaty cotton, put on dry merino and
cotton, then douse head in sink, towel off. That slows the sweat. Factory temp
is 90+ when outside is 90+, so not the last sweat I see that
Reminded me of shooting metal ducks in my wind-up shooting gallery with a
suction-cup dart gun, circa 1967. I thought it was funny, esp. the wry grin on
JW's face at the end. Obviously so ridiculous that it had no correlation to
reality for me. I've hunted, and bicycled, and watched westerns,
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