[RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

[Daniel Grilli]

My Appaloosa is being built up with a Bitex rear touring hub. 
Wheels are being built up this week - I'll report back once they (and the 
bike) are ready!

On Sunday 3 March 2024 at 09:56:15 UTC+10:30 Josh C wrote:

> I'd recommend a set of white industries hubs if you are looking for 
> something more high-end. Smoothest hubs I've seen. 
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 6:04:12 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> I second Deore LX! I had those front & rear until I laced up a front 
>> wheel with a Kasai FS dynamo hub.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 2:11:58 PM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:
>>
>>> I like the Deore LX trekking equipment.  A rear hub would be FH-T670.
>>> Quiet and bulletproof.  I’ve laced them to Velocity Atlas and Velocity 
>>> Dyads.
>>> For a front hub, I tend to use Shimano 105s because they are reliable 
>>> and reasonably cheap.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] WTB - Hub Area Bags

['Daniel Pack' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hello, Would anyone happen to have a set of Hub Area Rack (HAR) Bags they are 
not using? I managed to find a rack, but have not been able to find the bags. 
Thanks, Daniel Knoxville TN

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[RBW] Re: FS: Two pairs of the new MUSA shorts sz. L & a Woolywarm wool jersey sz. XL

[Daniel Rooke]

Jersey has sold.

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 9:58:37 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Amending prices to $60 for either pair of shorts and the jersey is $65 
> shipped.
>
> On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 2:00:08 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have one Black and one Ranger Green pair of the new MUSA shorts for 
>> sale. Two small marks on the right rear pocket of the green shorts.  Both 
>> are size large and weren't worn much.
>>  
>> $70 for the black and $65 for the green or $110 for both.
>>
>> The Woolywarm jersey is navy merino wool and no size tag so I'll provide 
>> the measurements below.  It's in excellent condition.  I never wore it but 
>> bought it from someone else, although it looks almost new. Maybe they 
>> didn't wear it either?  It's really, really nice and if it fit me I'd keep 
>> it.  
>>
>> Armpit to armpit: 22"
>> Collar to hem: 30"
>> Collar to end of the short sleeve is 14"
>>
>> All prices include shipping.
>>
>> If you want everything let's say $160.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Photos 
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sxZX_1XG45rhIm-etWrcR0YuTBNPpnYQ?usp=sharing>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Two pairs of the new MUSA shorts sz. L & a Woolywarm wool jersey sz. XL

[Daniel Rooke]

Amending prices to $60 for either pair of shorts and the jersey is $65 
shipped.

On Sunday, January 21, 2024 at 2:00:08 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have one Black and one Ranger Green pair of the new MUSA shorts for 
> sale. Two small marks on the right rear pocket of the green shorts.  Both 
> are size large and weren't worn much.
>  
> $70 for the black and $65 for the green or $110 for both.
>
> The Woolywarm jersey is navy merino wool and no size tag so I'll provide 
> the measurements below.  It's in excellent condition.  I never wore it but 
> bought it from someone else, although it looks almost new. Maybe they 
> didn't wear it either?  It's really, really nice and if it fit me I'd keep 
> it.  
>
> Armpit to armpit: 22"
> Collar to hem: 30"
> Collar to end of the short sleeve is 14"
>
> All prices include shipping.
>
> If you want everything let's say $160.
>
> Thanks
>
> Photos 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sxZX_1XG45rhIm-etWrcR0YuTBNPpnYQ?usp=sharing>
>

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[RBW] FS: Two pairs of the new MUSA shorts sz. L & a Woolywarm wool jersey sz. XL

[Daniel Rooke]

Hello,

I have one Black and one Ranger Green pair of the new MUSA shorts for sale. 
Two small marks on the right rear pocket of the green shorts.  Both are 
size large and weren't worn much.
 
$70 for the black and $65 for the green or $110 for both.

The Woolywarm jersey is navy merino wool and no size tag so I'll provide 
the measurements below.  It's in excellent condition.  I never wore it but 
bought it from someone else, although it looks almost new. Maybe they 
didn't wear it either?  It's really, really nice and if it fit me I'd keep 
it.  

Armpit to armpit: 22"
Collar to hem: 30"
Collar to end of the short sleeve is 14"

All prices include shipping.

If you want everything let's say $160.

Thanks

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[RBW] Re: RAGBRAI?

[daniel belyusar]

Hiya, 
Myself and another list member rode it for the first time last year. He on 
a Riv, me on my 83 Trek 620. (also another friend from Iowa and his dad). 
We met a number of Riv-riders including Reginald along the way  ;). Overall 
it was a mixed bag. I never really got around to writing my scene report so 
here goes the brain dump... 

Logistics: 
- We joined a small bike club based in Dubuque. We drove from Chicago to 
Dubuque, then they carried our duffles and bikes across, chartered a bus, 
and arranged with the organizers to secure a plot of land in each town for 
the 30-40 people from the club. It was honestly pretty spartan and not all 
that great. Part of the problem was that it was very hot almost the whole 
week; so without a place to go to at the end of the day, we ended up having 
to either kill time along the way, or immediately re-pack to ride to a 
public pool or something. Just sitting in an open field in 90 degrees and 
humid is not fun for me. As someone mentioned, everyone who I met along the 
way that used Pork Belly loved it - they set up a tent for you, have 
showers and beer and I think even entertainment. They're also very 
well-connected to the organizers over many years and seemed to have the 
prime locations. And yes, there are plenty of other companies including 
portable AC'd huts if you want!

- If I were to do it again, I think I'd make arrangements with locals in 
each town to camp on their lawn and bike pack (the organizers support a 
message board to make arrangements). An idea I heard a number of times 
which also seemed good if you can swing it: have a SAG vehicle shared 
between a small crew. It can be a car, but prob would be what you would 
drive to the start. Each day has a main lunch town/ meetup, about half way. 
So in the car crew, one person misses a half day of riding, round robin. 
The second half driver gets set up in the overnight town, everyone gets a 
little AC as needed, and you can get around to stores and maybe even get 
out of town a bit to beat the crowds if you want. Some people also rent RVs 
and it seems like there are some designated places for them, but again you 
need someone to drive.

- WRT to drunken shenanigans, honestly I didn't see much if any of it. The 
rides were pretty brutal with the heat and elevation, so if you partied 
hard the night before, I was probably way ahead the next day. We might have 
had a couple beers in the shade here and there, but when there is still 
miles 61 - 80 to go, and its 90 degrees, I think you'd be silly/dangerous 
to hit it hard. Once in town, everyone was pretty spread out throughout, so 
maybe I just missed it?

The Good: 
- I've never really done any long bike touring before (maybe 3 days max) so 
this was the longest number of days that all I had to do was ride! Almost 
all of the roads are closed and the route obvious, so for 500 mile over 7 
days, just wake up and keep pedaling. I could see why some might find the 
terrain a bit same-y, but there was a ton of elevation change, really 
pretty landscapes, and enough rivers and towns to keep me interested. 

- the tech support was amazing. every town (? or most) had a service stop 
with a number of very capable, approachable, and affordable crew for 
repairs. I wore out a front derailer cable mid week (so many hills!), my 
friend broke a spoke on a different day. In both cases it was like 30 min, 
$20 and back on the road. Watching them lace up my old Suntour fd on the 
'83 Trek, followed by a wireless rear on a carbon fiber '23 Trek for the 
next person in line was pretty awesome (new battery for your rd? $60 fully 
charged!). 

- I thought my bike was perfect. I rode 650b x38 smooth gravel kings, 46-30 
front and wide-ish rear, basic tektro brakes. I got a lot of comments both 
snarky and fun (met more than one person that had done cross country rides 
on 520s and 620s 'back in the day')

- I'm a pretty social person, but I met and rode with a lot of nice 
strangers on interesting bikes (see above). Learned about some cool tours, 
some cool bikes new and old. Despite the next section, I met quite a few 
folks that were into the same things I am. You know the old Honda ads? "You 
meet the nicest people on a Honda/ steel bike". As someone said, there is 
also that overall good vibe of just nothing but bikers everywhere...

The Bad: 
- it was really crowded. I know, of course I expected that, and it was the 
50th anniversary, so it might have been particularly packed. For me there 
were only a couple of rough patches where it was actually challenging to be 
riding with so many people, trying to change lanes etc, and the biggest 
headache was the swifties 'ON YOUR LEFT!' when it was crowded and I 
couldn't go any more right. I think I had to dismount once owing to a crowd 
going around a tight bend. But if you are planning to leave at a leisurely 
sun-up time, and riding a modest pace, expect lines for everything (could 
be like an hour for a beer or a 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Homer headbadge

['Daniel' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I agree with Sky. The Hunq badge is the best. 

On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 6:58:18 PM UTC-5 Sky Coulter wrote:

> The hunqapillar headbadge will always be the best.
>
> On Dec 1, 2023, at 3:36 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
> Science fact-
>
> There’s no finer headbadge in the universe than that of thee Rosco Bubbe.
> -Kai
> On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 5:24:44 PM UTC-5 Paul M wrote:
>
>> With the green twin top tube Rosco, it was that I just didn't like the 
>> rocket ship head badge. With the Homer, I like the head badge design but 
>> not the dark blue border. However, I did leave the head badge on my Wolbis.
>>
>> On Friday, 1 December 2023 at 09:39:25 UTC-8 cjus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> lol.  As soon as I saw this, I knew you had to be the guy who removed 
>>> the head badge on what is now my Green Rosco.
>>> On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 10:51:52 AM UTC-6 Paul M wrote:
>>>
 Sold. Thanks!

 On Friday, 1 December 2023 at 05:34:25 UTC-8 Paul M wrote:

> Just removed this head badge from my new A. Homer Hilsen frameset. I 
> like the look of the plain cream-colored head tube contrasting with the 
> mustard frame. Perfect condition. Amazing what you can do with nylon tire 
> irons. $35/shipped. Email me directly. Thanks, Paul in rainy Eugene 
> Oregon.

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[RBW] WTT Woolywarm rollneck sweater M for L

[daniel belyusar]

Hi all, 
I just picked up the English Merino rollneck sweater from Riv and got the 
wrong size. I am hoping someone might have made the same mistake the other 
way as they seem out of the L. 

Medium, Navy, never worn except to try on, still in bag. 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/woolywarm-all-merino-navy-blue-sweater-from-england?variant=40880140714095

Hoping for a large, potentially other colors. 

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Olive Sackville Medium Saddlesack & Space Age Technologies Booster Pack Messsenger Backpack

[Daniel Rooke]

Both sold.  Thanks!

On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 1:47:16 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Going to drop to $170 for the medium saddlebag.
>
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 6:44:18 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>
>> Booster pack is sold.  Saddlesack is still available.  If the price seems 
>> too high please feel free to make an offer.  
>>
>> On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 4:59:31 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Two things for sale:
>>>
>>> One olive color Medium Saddlesack - the old style without the dowel.  I 
>>> bought this used off the list a couple years ago but only used it once 
>>> myself.  Used a little previously - mostly the wear is to the leather pad 
>>> on the bottom of the bag.  I’m just not really a saddlebag person so I’m 
>>> going back to panniers.   A really nice bag in great shape though.  $190 
>>> shipped.
>>>
>>> This is Riv adjacent - I think they sell or sold a musette bag from them 
>>> on the Riv website.  A green Space Age Technologies messenger backpack. 
>>>  This is the booster pack model.  It’s a really nice bag I just bought it 
>>> when I lived in a big city and couldn’t leave any bags attached to my bike. 
>>>  Now I can use panniers thankfully.  This has seen limited use and is in 
>>> excellent condition.  Bag info 
>>> <http://spaceagebags.com/products/booster-pack-2>  $180 shipped.
>>>
>>> If anyone needs more info feel free to ask.  Paypal is best.  
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Photos 
>>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sxZX_1XG45rhIm-etWrcR0YuTBNPpnYQ?usp=sharing>
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Olive Sackville Medium Saddlesack & Space Age Technologies Booster Pack Messsenger Backpack

[Daniel Rooke]

Going to drop to $170 for the medium saddlebag.

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 6:44:18 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Booster pack is sold.  Saddlesack is still available.  If the price seems 
> too high please feel free to make an offer.  
>
> On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 4:59:31 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Two things for sale:
>>
>> One olive color Medium Saddlesack - the old style without the dowel.  I 
>> bought this used off the list a couple years ago but only used it once 
>> myself.  Used a little previously - mostly the wear is to the leather pad 
>> on the bottom of the bag.  I’m just not really a saddlebag person so I’m 
>> going back to panniers.   A really nice bag in great shape though.  $190 
>> shipped.
>>
>> This is Riv adjacent - I think they sell or sold a musette bag from them 
>> on the Riv website.  A green Space Age Technologies messenger backpack. 
>>  This is the booster pack model.  It’s a really nice bag I just bought it 
>> when I lived in a big city and couldn’t leave any bags attached to my bike. 
>>  Now I can use panniers thankfully.  This has seen limited use and is in 
>> excellent condition.  Bag info 
>> <http://spaceagebags.com/products/booster-pack-2>  $180 shipped.
>>
>> If anyone needs more info feel free to ask.  Paypal is best.  
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Photos 
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sxZX_1XG45rhIm-etWrcR0YuTBNPpnYQ?usp=sharing>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Olive Sackville Medium Saddlesack & Space Age Technologies Booster Pack Messsenger Backpack

[Daniel Rooke]

Booster pack is sold.  Saddlesack is still available.  If the price seems 
too high please feel free to make an offer.  

On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 4:59:31 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Two things for sale:
>
> One olive color Medium Saddlesack - the old style without the dowel.  I 
> bought this used off the list a couple years ago but only used it once 
> myself.  Used a little previously - mostly the wear is to the leather pad 
> on the bottom of the bag.  I’m just not really a saddlebag person so I’m 
> going back to panniers.   A really nice bag in great shape though.  $190 
> shipped.
>
> This is Riv adjacent - I think they sell or sold a musette bag from them 
> on the Riv website.  A green Space Age Technologies messenger backpack. 
>  This is the booster pack model.  It’s a really nice bag I just bought it 
> when I lived in a big city and couldn’t leave any bags attached to my bike. 
>  Now I can use panniers thankfully.  This has seen limited use and is in 
> excellent condition.  Bag info 
> <http://spaceagebags.com/products/booster-pack-2>  $180 shipped.
>
> If anyone needs more info feel free to ask.  Paypal is best.  
>
> Thanks
>
> Photos 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sxZX_1XG45rhIm-etWrcR0YuTBNPpnYQ?usp=sharing>
>

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[RBW] FS: Olive Sackville Medium Saddlesack & Space Age Technologies Booster Pack Messsenger Backpack

[Daniel Rooke]

Hello,

Two things for sale:

One olive color Medium Saddlesack - the old style without the dowel.  I 
bought this used off the list a couple years ago but only used it once 
myself.  Used a little previously - mostly the wear is to the leather pad 
on the bottom of the bag.  I’m just not really a saddlebag person so I’m 
going back to panniers.   A really nice bag in great shape though.  $190 
shipped.

This is Riv adjacent - I think they sell or sold a musette bag from them on 
the Riv website.  A green Space Age Technologies messenger backpack.  This 
is the booster pack model.  It’s a really nice bag I just bought it when I 
lived in a big city and couldn’t leave any bags attached to my bike.  Now I 
can use panniers thankfully.  This has seen limited use and is in excellent 
condition.  Bag info   
$180 shipped.

If anyone needs more info feel free to ask.  Paypal is best.  

Thanks

Photos 


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: RBW Hoodie, MUSA Pants, Blue Lug Hat

[Daniel Rooke]

All sold thanks.

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 11:57:41 AM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Hi,
>
> They are size large and the long version.  
>
> On Oct 26, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> What size are the pants? Also, are they long pants or knickers? 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 10:01:32 AM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm still cleaning things out and have a few more things for sale:
>>
>> 1 Bikes are Greater Hoodie sz. L - worn a little but too small for me - 
>> $40 shipped
>> 1 pair of older Grey Musa Pants - worn but in excellent shape - $65 
>> Shipped
>> 1 Ron's Bikes Japanese Linen Tulip Cap by BlueLug - worn twice - $40 
>> shipped
>>
>> Or everything for $130 shipped
>>
>> Here are some Photos 
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sxZX_1XG45rhIm-etWrcR0YuTBNPpnYQ?usp=drive_link>
>>
>> Thanks
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: RBW Hoodie, MUSA Pants, Blue Lug Hat

[Daniel Rooke]

Hi,They are size large and the long version.  On Oct 26, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:What size are the pants? Also, are they long pants or knickers? On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 10:01:32 AM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:Hello,I'm still cleaning things out and have a few more things for sale:1 Bikes are Greater Hoodie sz. L - worn a little but too small for me - $40 shipped1 pair of older Grey Musa Pants - worn but in excellent shape - $65 Shipped1 Ron's Bikes Japanese Linen Tulip Cap by BlueLug - worn twice - $40 shippedOr everything for $130 shippedHere are some PhotosThanks



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[RBW] FS: RBW Hoodie, MUSA Pants, Blue Lug Hat

[Daniel Rooke]

Hello,

I'm still cleaning things out and have a few more things for sale:

1 Bikes are Greater Hoodie sz. L - worn a little but too small for me - $40 
shipped
1 pair of older Grey Musa Pants - worn but in excellent shape - $65 Shipped
1 Ron's Bikes Japanese Linen Tulip Cap by BlueLug - worn twice - $40 shipped

Or everything for $130 shipped

Here are some Photos 


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[RBW] FS: Lightly used 173 Silver Crankset 42 x 28 tooth with chainguard

[Daniel Rooke]

Not many miles on this.  It's been sitting in a parts bin for a while now 
so needs a new home.  A few scratches and marks but nothing bad.  Chain 
rings have some life left too.  $180 shipped.

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[RBW] Re: Some Riv/MUSA Clothes for Sale

[Daniel Rooke]

All sold.  Thanks!

On Tuesday, September 26, 2023 at 9:45:40 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> I never really wear these so time to part ways.  Everything has been worn 
> and shows some signs of wear.  Mostly a little fading but also a few 
> spots.  I tried to photograph this.  Pricing things fairly I think.  
> Shipping included in price.  I can bundle things together for a lower price 
> too.
>
> 2 Platypus Tees - Size XL - $17 each or two for $30
> 1 MUSA Railroad Shirt - Size Large - $35
> 1 Pair of Grey MUSA pants w/ velcro Cuffs - $60 (tag has been cut out but 
> fits like a large)
>
> $110 shipped for all of it
>
> Thanks
>
> Photos 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sxZX_1XG45rhIm-etWrcR0YuTBNPpnYQ?usp=drive_link>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Shiny front derailleur for 42/28 Silver crankset

[daniel belyusar]

HI Kurt, 
I picked up the cheap-y skeleton key FD from Riv when I built my 42/20 
Appaloosa a couple months ago and it is frankly pretty remarkable. I am 
also using Microshift Thumbies.  As the ad copy says it's an "ugly 
son-of-a-bitch" but it is a little shiny per spec above. It has an unusual 
(to me) cable routing that I think makes it particularly snug. I've 
honestly never had a FD go on so quick and with so little adjustment. A 
couple hundred miles in, some fairly rough, some quite hilly and it's never 
missed a 
beat. https://www.rivbike.com/products/derailer-front-stubby-skeleton-key

Dan in Chicago 

On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 11:31:17 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> My Shimano CX-70 FD shifts very nicely on my Silver crankset with rings of 
> 34/20T with an Avid Miro-adapter. I have a SunRace 11-40T cassette with a 
> Shimano M952 RD.
> Currently, there are two of the Shimano CX-70 FDs' on eBay; one bottom 
> pull and the other direct mount.
>
> [image: thumbnail_20230921_150905_HDR a.jpg]
>
> On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:11:11 AM UTC-7 Drew Saunders wrote:
>
>> When changing my Riv from 3x9 to 2x11, with a New Albion 26/42/chainguard 
>> setup, instead of using my Suntour XC Pro FD (which probably would have 
>> worked just fine), that I've been using for ~25 years, I opted for an older 
>> "road" double. I found a really nicely cleaned up Campagnolo Croce d'Aune 
>> FD from c. 1990 on eBay from the UK, and it shifts just fine. It's also 
>> very shiny! I've always liked having a mix of manufacturers, so although a 
>> similar Dura Ace or Ultegra would be just as good, I wanted a Campy part 
>> because I didn't have any other Campy parts on this bike. 
>>
>> So, any good "road double" from the friction front shifter era would 
>> probably be great.
>>
>> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 4:24:02 PM UTC-7 Kurt Henry wrote:
>>
>>> So, I just found out that the few months I thought I had to firm up 
>>> parts for an upcoming Riv-inspired Inglis/Retrotec custom is a little 
>>> shorter than that.  When I got a call last week, it was to inform me that I 
>>> was #2 on the build list, and #1 wasn't returning calls.  Sounds like I 
>>> need to figure out a few things in short order!  
>>>
>>> I want to run a Silver 42/28 crankset but not sure what to use for front 
>>> shifting duties.  I've used a Suntour Cyclone to shift a 28/45/50 in the 
>>> past but am not sure that's the best option.  Maybe a derailleur intended 
>>> for MTB use would be better?
>>>
>>> The key other criteria I can think of are that I would prefer at least 
>>> some shiny parts.  Pure black modern components are a non-starter.  I will 
>>> have either an XT or XTR on the rear, both with a mix of black and silver, 
>>> so a little mix on the front is OK.  I'm going to be shifting with 
>>> Microshift thumbies.  They use friction on the front, so no worries about 
>>> indexing.  It's just a question of which derailleur is most likely to move 
>>> the chain in the smoothest way.  Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks all!
>>> Kurt Henry
>>> Lancaster, PA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Some Riv/MUSA Clothes for Sale

[Daniel Rooke]

I never really wear these so time to part ways.  Everything has been worn 
and shows some signs of wear.  Mostly a little fading but also a few 
spots.  I tried to photograph this.  Pricing things fairly I think.  
Shipping included in price.  I can bundle things together for a lower price 
too.

2 Platypus Tees - Size XL - $17 each or two for $30
1 MUSA Railroad Shirt - Size Large - $35
1 Pair of Grey MUSA pants w/ velcro Cuffs - $60 (tag has been cut out but 
fits like a large)

$110 shipped for all of it

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Big Back Rack 33R & Sackville Olive Bar Tube Handlebar Bag

[Daniel Rooke]

Rack is sold.  Open to offers for the bag.  

On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 3:33:11 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Going to revise to say $60 shipped for the bag.
>
> On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 1:37:21 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>
>> Both are in good condition.  The bar tube bag has very little wear; the 
>> rack shows signs of use.  The rack is also the older iteration with the 
>> hanging tabs for panniers.  All hardware included.  Please see photos for 
>> detailed view of their condition.  
>>
>> Rack is $170 and Bag is $60
>>
>> Shipping for bar tube bag will be $10.20 for a small flat rate USPS 
>> Priority Mail Box.
>>
>> Shipping for rack will be UPS.  I have a box so can give an accurate 
>> quote if you send me a zip code.  Shipping is expensive for these larger 
>> items even though it isn't that heavy.  
>>
>> Can ship both for the price of the rack, since the bag can just be 
>> included in that box.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Photos 
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1aZuIUkgDKiJAUAuDBWsxqqcndyF73Gf7?usp=sharing>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Big Back Rack 33R & Sackville Olive Bar Tube Handlebar Bag

[Daniel Rooke]

Going to revise to say $60 shipped for the bag.

On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 1:37:21 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Both are in good condition.  The bar tube bag has very little wear; the 
> rack shows signs of use.  The rack is also the older iteration with the 
> hanging tabs for panniers.  All hardware included.  Please see photos for 
> detailed view of their condition.  
>
> Rack is $170 and Bag is $60
>
> Shipping for bar tube bag will be $10.20 for a small flat rate USPS 
> Priority Mail Box.
>
> Shipping for rack will be UPS.  I have a box so can give an accurate quote 
> if you send me a zip code.  Shipping is expensive for these larger items 
> even though it isn't that heavy.  
>
> Can ship both for the price of the rack, since the bag can just be 
> included in that box.
>
> Thanks
>
> Photos 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1aZuIUkgDKiJAUAuDBWsxqqcndyF73Gf7?usp=sharing>
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Big Back Rack 33R & Sackville Olive Bar Tube Handlebar Bag

[Daniel Rooke]

Both are in good condition.  The bar tube bag has very little wear; the 
rack shows signs of use.  The rack is also the older iteration with the 
hanging tabs for panniers.  All hardware included.  Please see photos for 
detailed view of their condition.  

Rack is $170 and Bag is $60

Shipping for bar tube bag will be $10.20 for a small flat rate USPS 
Priority Mail Box.

Shipping for rack will be UPS.  I have a box so can give an accurate quote 
if you send me a zip code.  Shipping is expensive for these larger items 
even though it isn't that heavy.  

Can ship both for the price of the rack, since the bag can just be included 
in that box.

Thanks

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Big Back Rack 33R & Olive Sackville Bar Tube Bag

[Daniel Rooke]

Both are in good condition.  The bar tube bag has very little wear; the 
rack shows signs of use.  The rack is also the older iteration with the 
hanging tabs for panniers.  All hardware included.  Please see photos for 
detailed view of their condition.  

Shipping for bar tube bag will be $10.20 for a small flat rate USPS 
Priority Mail Box.

Shipping for rack will be UPS.  I have a box so can give an accurate quote 
if you send me a zip code.  Shipping is expensive for these larger items 
even though it isn't that heavy.  

Can ship both for the price of the rack, since the bag can just be included 
in that box.

Thanks

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[RBW] Re: FS: fillet brazed Bullmooses

[Daniel]

Still available. 
Also have 2 x 26" wheelset and maybe selling my old 100/135 Synergy/Deore 
650B wheels. 


On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 4:36:47 PM UTC-7 Daniel wrote:

> I have some RBW x Nitto fillet brazed Bullmoose bars. These are out of 
> stock and no longer on the side. The TIG'ed ones are $195 + tax and 
> shipping. Selling my nice condition used for $180 shipt (less for locals in 
> LA/OC). Fotos <https://photos.app.goo.gl/9Dq13VBRhsAj8FVF6>. Or trade for 
> Chocomoose.
> Dan Af
> Yorba Linda, Calif.
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[RBW] Re: FS: Two Pairs of Unworn MUSA Khaki and Grey Knickers Sz. L

[Daniel Rooke]

Both sold.  Thanks

On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 11:16:15 AM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> I bought these a year ago.  I never wore them.  As far as I can tell they 
> have never been worn - still in the plastic packaging with the MUSA Card.  
> $60 each or two for $100.  Shipping would be flat rate $10 either way.
>
> More Photos can be provided
>
> Thanks
> [image: IMG_0288.jpeg]
> [image: IMG_0284.jpeg]
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Pants, T-Shirts, A Railroad Shirt, and a Couple Other Things

[Daniel Rooke]

A couple price reductions and also feel free to make an offer.  Here's 
what's left.  :

- One Blue Platypus T-shirt size XL - worn a few times but in good shape: 
$15
- One Navy Woolpower 400 1/4 zip sweater sz. XL: $40
- One Rivendell Railroad Stripe Shirt sz. XL - two oil stains near the MUSA 
logo but otherwise in good condition: $50
- One tig-welded Nitto Bullmoose handlebars (these are not the same as the 
filet brazed ones for sale on the Rivendell website) - never used but 
mounted in a frame: $100 + cost of shipping (will require a larger box)
On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 5:11:50 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> That’s awesome - I’m glad you like them
>
> On Jun 14, 2023, at 4:24 PM, Ted W  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Thanks for the shorts, Daniel! Package arrived today and they’re perfect!
>
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 8:07 PM Daniel Rooke  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have the following items for sale:
>>
>>
>>- One grey Peace Wheel T-shirt size XL - new but without tags: $15
>>- One Blue Platypus T-shirt size XL - worn a few times but in good 
>>shape: $15
>>- One pair of the new Black MUSA pants size Large - worn a couple 
>>times, washed in cold water and lined dried: $90
>>- One pair of the old MUSA grey pants size L - in good used condition 
>>but there is a rip on the thigh, which is visible in the pictures - it 
>> will 
>>probably need to be repaired: $50
>>- One pair of the new Ranger Green MUSA shorts still in the packaging 
>>- size L: $75
>>- One Navy Woolpower 400 1/4 zip sweater sz. XL: $50
>>- One Rivendell Railroad Stripe Shirt sz. XL - two oil stains near 
>>the MUSA logo but otherwise in good condition: $60
>>- One tig-welded Nitto Bullmoose handlebars (these are not the same 
>>as the filet brazed ones for sale on the Rivendell website) - never used 
>>but mounted in a frame: $100 + cost of shipping (will require a larger 
>> box)
>>- One pair of 700 x 50 Soma Cazadero tires - never used: $80
>>
>>
>> Prices don’t include shipping.  Individual items can be shipped together 
>> to reduce costs. Please send a zip code and I can supply shipping 
>> information.  Any Questions or comments send me a message.  
>>
>> Pictures 
>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1aZuIUkgDKiJAUAuDBWsxqqcndyF73Gf7?usp=drive_link>
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Pants, T-Shirts, A Railroad Shirt, and a Couple Other Things

[Daniel Rooke]

That’s awesome - I’m glad you like themOn Jun 14, 2023, at 4:24 PM, Ted W  wrote:Thanks for the shorts, Daniel! Package arrived today and they’re perfect!On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 8:07 PM Daniel Rooke <rooke.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:Hello,I have the following items for sale:One grey Peace Wheel T-shirt size XL - new but without tags: $15One Blue Platypus T-shirt size XL - worn a few times but in good shape: $15One pair of the new Black MUSA pants size Large - worn a couple times, washed in cold water and lined dried: $90One pair of the old MUSA grey pants size L - in good used condition but there is a rip on the thigh, which is visible in the pictures - it will probably need to be repaired: $50One pair of the new Ranger Green MUSA shorts still in the packaging - size L: $75One Navy Woolpower 400 1/4 zip sweater sz. XL: $50One Rivendell Railroad Stripe Shirt sz. XL - two oil stains near the MUSA logo but otherwise in good condition: $60One tig-welded Nitto Bullmoose handlebars (these are not the same as the filet brazed ones for sale on the Rivendell website) - never used but mounted in a frame: $100 + cost of shipping (will require a larger box)One pair of 700 x 50 Soma Cazadero tires - never used: $80Prices don’t include shipping.  Individual items can be shipped together to reduce costs. Please send a zip code and I can supply shipping information.  Any Questions or comments send me a message.  Pictures



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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Hunqapillar Frameset

[Daniel Rooke]

Sold

On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 12:31:55 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
> I have a nice 62cm Hunqapillar frameset for sale.  I bought it built up 
> off the list about a year ago but it’s always been too big for me so I’m 
> reluctantly selling it.  I think it’s been sold a few times here but seems 
> to be in good shape.  There is some slight damage to the chain stay, which 
> is visible in one of the photos.  Other than that some paint chips and 
> scratches and signs of use.  Included with sale will be an FSA headset and 
> Shimano bottom bracket - both installed - and a 28.6” Nitto seat post. 
>  This was one of the frames made with that size seat post. Additionally I 
> have tig-welded Nitto Bullmoose Handlebars that I could include for an 
> additional $120.  They were never used but installed once.  
>
> As far as shipping I have a box I could use and can pack it carefully 
> myself.  I think shipping would be approximately $100 but can get an exact 
> quote when sold and knowing what zip code I’m shipping to.  Also, I can 
> take it to my local bike shop to have them pack and ship it. That will take 
> longer - the last time I inquired it was a 10 day lead time to pack and 
> ship, but that may have gone down.  I would estimate an additional $100 for 
> that.
>
> I'm thinking $1350 for the frameset plus whatever shipping option you 
> choose.  Most payment methods would work.
>
> Photos 
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[RBW] FS: MUSA Pants, T-Shirts, A Railroad Shirt, and a Couple Other Things

[Daniel Rooke]

Hello,

I have the following items for sale:


   - One grey Peace Wheel T-shirt size XL - new but without tags: $15
   - One Blue Platypus T-shirt size XL - worn a few times but in good 
   shape: $15
   - One pair of the new Black MUSA pants size Large - worn a couple times, 
   washed in cold water and lined dried: $90
   - One pair of the old MUSA grey pants size L - in good used condition 
   but there is a rip on the thigh, which is visible in the pictures - it will 
   probably need to be repaired: $50
   - One pair of the new Ranger Green MUSA shorts still in the packaging - 
   size L: $75
   - One Navy Woolpower 400 1/4 zip sweater sz. XL: $50
   - One Rivendell Railroad Stripe Shirt sz. XL - two oil stains near the 
   MUSA logo but otherwise in good condition: $60
   - One tig-welded Nitto Bullmoose handlebars (these are not the same as 
   the filet brazed ones for sale on the Rivendell website) - never used but 
   mounted in a frame: $100 + cost of shipping (will require a larger box)
   - One pair of 700 x 50 Soma Cazadero tires - never used: $80


Prices don’t include shipping.  Individual items can be shipped together to 
reduce costs. Please send a zip code and I can supply shipping 
information.  Any Questions or comments send me a message.  

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[RBW] FS: fillet brazer Bullmooses

[Daniel]

I have some RBW x Nitto fillet brazed Bullmoose bars. These are out of 
stock and no longer on the side. The TIG'ed ones are $195 + tax and 
shipping. Selling my nice condition used for $180 shipt (less for locals in 
LA/OC). Fotos . Or trade for 
Chocomoose.
Dan Af
Yorba Linda, Calif.

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[RBW] FS: 62cm Hunqapillar Frameset

[Daniel Rooke]

Hello,


I have a nice 62cm Hunqapillar frameset for sale.  I bought it built up off 
the list about a year ago but it’s always been too big for me so I’m 
reluctantly selling it.  I think it’s been sold a few times here but seems 
to be in good shape.  There is some slight damage to the chain stay, which 
is visible in one of the photos.  Other than that some paint chips and 
scratches and signs of use.  Included with sale will be an FSA headset and 
Shimano bottom bracket - both installed - and a 28.6” Nitto seat post. 
 This was one of the frames made with that size seat post. Additionally I 
have tig-welded Nitto Bullmoose Handlebars that I could include for an 
additional $120.  They were never used but installed once.  

As far as shipping I have a box I could use and can pack it carefully 
myself.  I think shipping would be approximately $100 but can get an exact 
quote when sold and knowing what zip code I’m shipping to.  Also, I can 
take it to my local bike shop to have them pack and ship it. That will take 
longer - the last time I inquired it was a 10 day lead time to pack and 
ship, but that may have gone down.  I would estimate an additional $100 for 
that.

I'm thinking $1350 for the frameset plus whatever shipping option you 
choose.  Most payment methods would work.

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[RBW] WTT: Bullmoose for Chocomoose

[Daniel]

Hi, all. I have some of the Riv x Nitto Bullmoose bars and would like to 
trade for some Chocomoose bars  (not Bosco, and I don't remember other 
"mooses"--but if you have a different moose, let me know and the worst I 
can say is "no").
Dan Af
Yorba Linda, Calif.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bullmoose bars, Soma Shikoro tires, Paul Seat Post

[Daniel Rooke]

Bumping this.  Also these are tig-welded not filet brazed.  I believe that 
Rivendell used to sell this version.  Bullmoose bars for $120 + shipping.  

On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 10:35:53 AM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Seatpost sold.  Only Bullmoose bars left.
>
> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 9:57:54 PM UTC-7 malvar...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Message sent. 
>> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 7:42:39 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>>
>>> Bump.  Dropping prices:
>>>
>>> Bullmoose bars: $140
>>> Seatpost: $100
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:33:53 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>>>
>>>> TIres sold.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:22:43 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Prices do not include shipping, please supply a zip code to calculate 
>>>>> shipping.   I can provide more photos of any of the items.  Also happy to 
>>>>> answer any questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Nitto Bullmoose handlebars* - same as the ones on Rivendell website 
>>>>> - bought new and installed on one bike but never ridden - I just didn’t 
>>>>> like the fit - $180
>>>>>
>>>>> A Pair of Soma Shikoro 700 x 48 tires - almost no wear - $90
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul Tall & Handsome Seatpost 27.2 x 360 Anodized silver - bought new 
>>>>> and used for several months with some cosmetic signs of use - $150
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Photos: 
>>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YSS3e0mvNmTuUIX1FnUoafdqjfeMrsYs?usp=sharing
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clem H 59cm Complete (Custom Build)

[Daniel]

Update: I was shooting from the hip on pricing the other day and I think 
bundling the shipping in isn't fair to the buyer or me. I've decided to 
drop the price to $1500 for the bike and then shipping is 100% on the 
buyer. I think this is fairer and more transparent.

I hope this makes it more appealing to ya.

Daniel
On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 4:48:33 PM UTC-8 Daniel wrote:

> Selling my Clem H to declutter my garage (AKA my office). It's latest 
> build (where it got its least mileage) is as a trail bike and that's 
> redundant for me.
>
> The size is 59cm which I measured as the following:
> Seattube (CTC):58cm
> Toptube (CTC):63cm
> Chainstays:56cm
> Headtube:21.75cm
> HTA:72⁰
> STA:72⁰
> TT Slope:4⁰
>
> This is an earlier green "H" with the cool swoopy seatstays build up 8 
> speed as follows:
> Mech - rear:Deore XT
> Mech - front:Deore XT
> Crank:Suntour XC Pro
> Bars:Nitto Bullmoose w/ Newbaums tape and ESI silicon grips
> Brakes:Deore XT (black) v-brake
> Brake Levers:Deore XT
> Shifters:Suntour (mounted under the bars)…working OK but some 
> slipping, so I didn't trim the cables yet…you might prefer different 
> shifters or other positions.
> Seatpost:OEM
> Headset:Tange (original)
> Rims:Velocity Cliffhangers
> Hubs:Shimano Non-Series (FH-RS300 front / HB-T3000 rear)
> Tires:Conti 29 x 2.6" (maxed out for this frame!) set up tubeless with 
> Orange Seal
>
> Note: saddle, waterbottle cages, pedals, reflector triangle, trail bell 
> and any other accessories photographed are not included.
>
> Pictures here <https://photos.app.goo.gl/LTwvvL5pCqVGJdQR7>. Shown with 
> 82cm saddle height.
>
> Price: $2k shipped in the lower 48. Other locations, please contact me. 
> Discount for SoCal (LA/OC/IE/SD) buyer since I won't have to pack and ship.
>
> Want to buy or questions? Please email me off list.
>
> Daniel
> Yorba Linda, CA (Orange County)
>

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[RBW] FS: Clem H 59cm Complete (Custom Build)

[Daniel]

Selling my Clem H to declutter my garage (AKA my office). It's latest build 
(where it got its least mileage) is as a trail bike and that's redundant 
for me.

The size is 59cm which I measured as the following:
Seattube (CTC):58cm
Toptube (CTC):63cm
Chainstays:56cm
Headtube:21.75cm
HTA:72⁰
STA:72⁰
TT Slope:4⁰

This is an earlier green "H" with the cool swoopy seatstays build up 8 
speed as follows:
Mech - rear:Deore XT
Mech - front:Deore XT
Crank:Suntour XC Pro
Bars:Nitto Bullmoose w/ Newbaums tape and ESI silicon grips
Brakes:Deore XT (black) v-brake
Brake Levers:Deore XT
Shifters:Suntour (mounted under the bars)…working OK but some slipping, 
so I didn't trim the cables yet…you might prefer different shifters or 
other positions.
Seatpost:OEM
Headset:Tange (original)
Rims:Velocity Cliffhangers
Hubs:Shimano Non-Series (FH-RS300 front / HB-T3000 rear)
Tires:Conti 29 x 2.6" (maxed out for this frame!) set up tubeless with 
Orange Seal

Note: saddle, waterbottle cages, pedals, reflector triangle, trail bell and 
any other accessories photographed are not included.

Pictures here <https://photos.app.goo.gl/LTwvvL5pCqVGJdQR7>. Shown with 
82cm saddle height.

Price: $2k shipped in the lower 48. Other locations, please contact me. 
Discount for SoCal (LA/OC/IE/SD) buyer since I won't have to pack and ship.

Want to buy or questions? Please email me off list.

Daniel
Yorba Linda, CA (Orange County)

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[RBW] FS: Herse crank, Brooks, Ribbit brakes, Nitto bits, bottle cages, and other choice parts

[Daniel]

Prices do *not *include shipping. Pick up is in SoCal. Shipping is not a 
problem but might take a day or two and will be at cost. Open to offers if 
you think I'm off base. Fotos here: link 
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/HDq8bURfGpZBcM4P9>

   1. Randy Herse 177mm 44/30 double w/ 15mm Jan bolts $375
   2. Dura Ace 9 speed index DT levers $80
   3. Cockpit...Nitto Noodles (44cm), VO/Grand Cru steel stem (9cm), brass 
   bell, black tape, Tektro levers $120
   4. Suntour Cyclone mk1 FD $20
   5. Dura Ace 700 GS (big pulley version) $120
   6. Riv Ribbit brakes (F+R) with (new) Kool Stop Dual Compound Eagle 2 
   pads $75
   7. Brooks C-15 Carved $50
   8. VO 1" decaleur $20
   9. Ritchey SPD 2-bolt pedals (no cleats) $20
   10. Wolf tooth Morse Code $25
   11. Nitto bottle cages (2 available) $65 /ea
   12. King Iris $20
   13. Gran Compe ENE 27.2 post (~11cm above the zip zags) $40

Daniel
Yorba Linda, CA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bullmoose bars, Soma Shikoro tires, Paul Seat Post

[Daniel Rooke]

Seatpost sold.  Only Bullmoose bars left.

On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 9:57:54 PM UTC-7 malvar...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
> Message sent. 
> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 7:42:39 PM UTC-6 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>
>> Bump.  Dropping prices:
>>
>> Bullmoose bars: $140
>> Seatpost: $100
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:33:53 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>>
>>> TIres sold.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:22:43 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Prices do not include shipping, please supply a zip code to calculate 
>>>> shipping.   I can provide more photos of any of the items.  Also happy to 
>>>> answer any questions.
>>>>
>>>> *Nitto Bullmoose handlebars* - same as the ones on Rivendell website - 
>>>> bought new and installed on one bike but never ridden - I just didn’t like 
>>>> the fit - $180
>>>>
>>>> A Pair of Soma Shikoro 700 x 48 tires - almost no wear - $90
>>>>
>>>> Paul Tall & Handsome Seatpost 27.2 x 360 Anodized silver - bought new 
>>>> and used for several months with some cosmetic signs of use - $150
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Photos: 
>>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YSS3e0mvNmTuUIX1FnUoafdqjfeMrsYs?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bullmoose bars, Soma Shikoro tires, Paul Seat Post

[Daniel Rooke]

Bump.  Dropping prices:

Bullmoose bars: $140
Seatpost: $100

Thanks

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 2:33:53 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> TIres sold.
>
> On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:22:43 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Prices do not include shipping, please supply a zip code to calculate 
>> shipping.   I can provide more photos of any of the items.  Also happy to 
>> answer any questions.
>>
>> *Nitto Bullmoose handlebars* - same as the ones on Rivendell website - 
>> bought new and installed on one bike but never ridden - I just didn’t like 
>> the fit - $180
>>
>> A Pair of Soma Shikoro 700 x 48 tires - almost no wear - $90
>>
>> Paul Tall & Handsome Seatpost 27.2 x 360 Anodized silver - bought new and 
>> used for several months with some cosmetic signs of use - $150
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Photos: 
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YSS3e0mvNmTuUIX1FnUoafdqjfeMrsYs?usp=sharing
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bullmoose bars, Soma Shikoro tires, Paul Seat Post

[Daniel Rooke]

TIres sold.

On Saturday, November 12, 2022 at 1:22:43 PM UTC-7 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Prices do not include shipping, please supply a zip code to calculate 
> shipping.   I can provide more photos of any of the items.  Also happy to 
> answer any questions.
>
> *Nitto Bullmoose handlebars* - same as the ones on Rivendell website - 
> bought new and installed on one bike but never ridden - I just didn’t like 
> the fit - $180
>
> A Pair of Soma Shikoro 700 x 48 tires - almost no wear - $90
>
> Paul Tall & Handsome Seatpost 27.2 x 360 Anodized silver - bought new and 
> used for several months with some cosmetic signs of use - $150
>
> Thanks
>
> Photos: 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YSS3e0mvNmTuUIX1FnUoafdqjfeMrsYs?usp=sharing
>

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[RBW] FS: Bullmoose bars, Soma Shikoro tires, Paul Seat Post

[Daniel Rooke]

Hello,

Prices do not include shipping, please supply a zip code to calculate 
shipping.   I can provide more photos of any of the items.  Also happy to 
answer any questions.

*Nitto Bullmoose handlebars* - same as the ones on Rivendell website - 
bought new and installed on one bike but never ridden - I just didn’t like 
the fit - $180

A Pair of Soma Shikoro 700 x 48 tires - almost no wear - $90

Paul Tall & Handsome Seatpost 27.2 x 360 Anodized silver - bought new and 
used for several months with some cosmetic signs of use - $150

Thanks

Photos: 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YSS3e0mvNmTuUIX1FnUoafdqjfeMrsYs?usp=sharing

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Susie Longbolts Large

[Daniel MacPherson]

Bike is sold. I decided to ship it. Not a lot of Rivendell owners in 
Northeast Florida..


On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 11:01:37 AM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just have a shop box and ship it, I’m sure someone would pay the extra for 
> that deal. I’d jump on it if I didn’t have one already! I can’t imagine 
> selling mine though. 
>
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 7:51:24 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Oh, and your Susie is beautiful! very tempting ;)
>>
>> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 10:50:40 AM UTC-4 Daniel MacPherson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying my best to avoid shipping, but if it doesn't sell soon I'll 
>>> ship. 
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 10:45 AM maxcr  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Are you still thinking local only? I hate shipping bikes, but I imagine 
>>>> that would open up the demand side :)
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-4 Daniel MacPherson 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm Bumping this thread and lowering the price to $2450. Any takers?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 3:10:32 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> R10, Analog has them. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://analogcycles.com/products/nitto-r-10-rear-bag-support
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 11:47:53 AM UTC-7 
>>>>>> row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What rear rack.??..i know it's not for sale
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 12:41 PM Joe Bernard  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your post says Orange but this is actually the new Dark Gold, yes? 
>>>>>>>> It's gorgeous, somebody go get it! 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 8:45:09 AM UTC-7 Daniel 
>>>>>>>> MacPherson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After much debate, I think I'm going to sell my Large Susie 
>>>>>>>>> Longbolts . I built it up as a commuter but quickly realize I prefer 
>>>>>>>>> my 
>>>>>>>>> prior commuter better. Anyway, I'm not right now ready to ship it so 
>>>>>>>>> local 
>>>>>>>>> pickup only in the Tallahassee Area. I am willing to drive a couple 
>>>>>>>>> of 
>>>>>>>>> hours with the bike to facilitate the sale. Bike has a total of 
>>>>>>>>> around 200 
>>>>>>>>> miles or so. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Specs Below
>>>>>>>>> Susie Large Frame - Orange
>>>>>>>>> SRAM GX 11-Speed Rear Derailleur
>>>>>>>>> SRAM 11-Speed 11-42 Rear Cassette
>>>>>>>>> Microshift 11-Speed Thumb Shifter
>>>>>>>>> Billie Bar
>>>>>>>>> Nitto Technomic Stem
>>>>>>>>> Wheels - Deore XT laced with Velocity Cliffhanger Rims
>>>>>>>>> Tires- G-One Speed 55mm, Tubeless
>>>>>>>>> Sugino AT Crankset with Wolftooth 36t Narrowide Chainring. 
>>>>>>>>> Avid  7 V-Brakes
>>>>>>>>> Brooks B17 Saddle
>>>>>>>>> Pedals and Rear Rack are not included.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm asking $2600.
>>>>>>>>> Pics can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/U1oWtHI
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Daniel MacPherson
>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Susie Longbolts Large

[Daniel MacPherson]

I'm trying my best to avoid shipping, but if it doesn't sell soon I'll
ship.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 10:45 AM maxcr  wrote:

> Are you still thinking local only? I hate shipping bikes, but I imagine
> that would open up the demand side :)
>
> On Thursday, September 22, 2022 at 9:59:24 AM UTC-4 Daniel MacPherson
> wrote:
>
>> I'm Bumping this thread and lowering the price to $2450. Any takers?
>>
>> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 3:10:32 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> R10, Analog has them.
>>>
>>> https://analogcycles.com/products/nitto-r-10-rear-bag-support
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 11:47:53 AM UTC-7
>>> row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> What rear rack.??..i know it's not for sale
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 12:41 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Your post says Orange but this is actually the new Dark Gold, yes?
>>>>> It's gorgeous, somebody go get it!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 8:45:09 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After much debate, I think I'm going to sell my Large Susie Longbolts
>>>>>> . I built it up as a commuter but quickly realize I prefer my prior
>>>>>> commuter better. Anyway, I'm not right now ready to ship it so local 
>>>>>> pickup
>>>>>> only in the Tallahassee Area. I am willing to drive a couple of hours 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the bike to facilitate the sale. Bike has a total of around 200 miles or
>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Specs Below
>>>>>> Susie Large Frame - Orange
>>>>>> SRAM GX 11-Speed Rear Derailleur
>>>>>> SRAM 11-Speed 11-42 Rear Cassette
>>>>>> Microshift 11-Speed Thumb Shifter
>>>>>> Billie Bar
>>>>>> Nitto Technomic Stem
>>>>>> Wheels - Deore XT laced with Velocity Cliffhanger Rims
>>>>>> Tires- G-One Speed 55mm, Tubeless
>>>>>> Sugino AT Crankset with Wolftooth 36t Narrowide Chainring.
>>>>>> Avid  7 V-Brakes
>>>>>> Brooks B17 Saddle
>>>>>> Pedals and Rear Rack are not included.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm asking $2600.
>>>>>> Pics can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/U1oWtHI
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel MacPherson
>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Susie Longbolts Large

[Daniel MacPherson]

I'm Bumping this thread and lowering the price to $2450. Any takers?

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 3:10:32 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> R10, Analog has them. 
>
> https://analogcycles.com/products/nitto-r-10-rear-bag-support
>
> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 11:47:53 AM UTC-7 row.n.2...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> What rear rack.??..i know it's not for sale
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 12:41 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Your post says Orange but this is actually the new Dark Gold, yes? It's 
>>> gorgeous, somebody go get it! 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 8:45:09 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> After much debate, I think I'm going to sell my Large Susie Longbolts . 
>>>> I built it up as a commuter but quickly realize I prefer my prior commuter 
>>>> better. Anyway, I'm not right now ready to ship it so local pickup only in 
>>>> the Tallahassee Area. I am willing to drive a couple of hours with the 
>>>> bike 
>>>> to facilitate the sale. Bike has a total of around 200 miles or so. 
>>>>
>>>> Specs Below
>>>> Susie Large Frame - Orange
>>>> SRAM GX 11-Speed Rear Derailleur
>>>> SRAM 11-Speed 11-42 Rear Cassette
>>>> Microshift 11-Speed Thumb Shifter
>>>> Billie Bar
>>>> Nitto Technomic Stem
>>>> Wheels - Deore XT laced with Velocity Cliffhanger Rims
>>>> Tires- G-One Speed 55mm, Tubeless
>>>> Sugino AT Crankset with Wolftooth 36t Narrowide Chainring. 
>>>> Avid  7 V-Brakes
>>>> Brooks B17 Saddle
>>>> Pedals and Rear Rack are not included.
>>>>
>>>> I'm asking $2600.
>>>> Pics can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/U1oWtHI
>>>>
>>>> Daniel MacPherson
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Susie Longbolts Large

[Daniel MacPherson]

Sorry, beautiful dark gold The rear rack is the Nitto bag supporter. 

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 2:47:53 PM UTC-4 row.n.2...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> What rear rack.??..i know it's not for sale
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 12:41 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Your post says Orange but this is actually the new Dark Gold, yes? It's 
>> gorgeous, somebody go get it! 
>>
>> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 8:45:09 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> After much debate, I think I'm going to sell my Large Susie Longbolts . 
>>> I built it up as a commuter but quickly realize I prefer my prior commuter 
>>> better. Anyway, I'm not right now ready to ship it so local pickup only in 
>>> the Tallahassee Area. I am willing to drive a couple of hours with the bike 
>>> to facilitate the sale. Bike has a total of around 200 miles or so. 
>>>
>>> Specs Below
>>> Susie Large Frame - Orange
>>> SRAM GX 11-Speed Rear Derailleur
>>> SRAM 11-Speed 11-42 Rear Cassette
>>> Microshift 11-Speed Thumb Shifter
>>> Billie Bar
>>> Nitto Technomic Stem
>>> Wheels - Deore XT laced with Velocity Cliffhanger Rims
>>> Tires- G-One Speed 55mm, Tubeless
>>> Sugino AT Crankset with Wolftooth 36t Narrowide Chainring. 
>>> Avid  7 V-Brakes
>>> Brooks B17 Saddle
>>> Pedals and Rear Rack are not included.
>>>
>>> I'm asking $2600.
>>> Pics can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/U1oWtHI
>>>
>>> Daniel MacPherson
>>>
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[RBW] FS Susie Longbolts Large

[Daniel MacPherson]

Hello!

After much debate, I think I'm going to sell my Large Susie Longbolts . I 
built it up as a commuter but quickly realize I prefer my prior commuter 
better. Anyway, I'm not right now ready to ship it so local pickup only in 
the Tallahassee Area. I am willing to drive a couple of hours with the bike 
to facilitate the sale. Bike has a total of around 200 miles or so. 

Specs Below
Susie Large Frame - Orange
SRAM GX 11-Speed Rear Derailleur
SRAM 11-Speed 11-42 Rear Cassette
Microshift 11-Speed Thumb Shifter
Billie Bar
Nitto Technomic Stem
Wheels - Deore XT laced with Velocity Cliffhanger Rims
Tires- G-One Speed 55mm, Tubeless
Sugino AT Crankset with Wolftooth 36t Narrowide Chainring. 
Avid  7 V-Brakes
Brooks B17 Saddle
Pedals and Rear Rack are not included.

I'm asking $2600.
Pics can be found here: https://imgur.com/a/U1oWtHI

Daniel MacPherson

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Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Daniel MacPherson]

Well, I guess I'm going to bouncing around on my Susie... Joking.. I'll buy 
a Jim Stem once they become available in the near future...

Daniel M
Tallahassee, FL


On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 12:11:39 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Here are some relative truths:
>
> 1. 1-1/8" quill stems are stiffer than 1" quill stems
> 2. steel quill stems are stiffer than aluminum quill stems
> 3. Stems with a shorter extension are stiffer than similar stems with a 
> longer extension
> 4. straight handlebars are stiffer than swept back handlebars
> 5. among swept back bars, bars with less sweep back are stiffer than bars 
> with more sweep back
> 6. 31.8mm handlebars are stiffer than 25.4mm handlebars
> 7. steel handlebars are stiffer than aluminum handlebars
> 8. handlebars fitted to the right sized stem are stiffer than handlebars 
> shimmed into the next size larger
> 9. bullmoose is stiffer than separate handlebar and stem setups.  
>
> As far as I understand it, Daniel's handlebar setup is employing the 
> "flexier" choice in all 9 of the above.  So there's a lot of ways to 
> improve things.  The most "night and day" experience I've had on this front 
> was on Doug's Clem.  Doug hated the flex.  It was a technomic stem and 
> aluminum boscos.  I set him up with a bullmoose Choco, and he was instantly 
> over the moon about it.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 8:39:07 AM UTC-7 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> From what I remember reading, the Billie is recommended to use with a 
>> faceplate stem. The Technomic has a lot of flex. I’m running the Jim on 
>> mine with Bosco bars and the flex is not bad, just enough to take the sting 
>> out of things. Definitely recommend trying a cheap one and getting 
>> something nicer when they show up, hopefully soon…
>>
>> I’m waiting for a 135 Faceplater to replace my 100 Jim. And also maybe 
>> waiting for the Billie to be able to stretch out more.  Hopefully parts 
>> become more available again one day!
>>
>> On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 7:30:52 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson wrote:
>>
>>> Of course, the Jim stem is sold out. Anyone have a 120mm Jim Stem for 
>>> sale? I might get a cheapo off Ebay and see if that works then buyer a 
>>> nicer one later. I will do the headset test as well. I've had an 
>>> experienced mechanic set-up the headset so I'm pretty confident that it is 
>>> not the problem. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 10:15:26 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>>> Daniel wrote: "I was thinking the Jim stem with the double bolt and 
>>>> uprise angle might solve the problem. Thoughts?"
>>>>
>>>> I would think it would make a big improvement. The Billie bars are 
>>>> still wide bars with a fair amount of flex but moving to a stem like that 
>>>> made a big difference for me when I did it. I agree the amount of flex 
>>>> with 
>>>> my original Billie/Nitto tech setup was excessive.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 10:10:22 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> While not as aesthetically pleasing, you could try a threadless to 
>>>>> quill stem adapter and see if running a threadless stem with a wider 
>>>>> clamping area will fix your issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:30 AM James Valiensi  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> If the handlebar clamp on the stem is too loose the bars will slip 
>>>>>> and rotate in it. The bolt needs to be really tight.
>>>>>> You can tell if the headset is loose with this method:
>>>>>> 1. stand in front of the bike
>>>>>> 2. wrap one o your hands around the top nut, stem and top of the head 
>>>>>> tube
>>>>>> 3. hold the front brake lever realy hard with the other hand
>>>>>> 4. push the bike back and forth a bit
>>>>>> 5. if the headset is loose you will feel the differ parts moving 
>>>>>> under the hand that is wrapped around the headset
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the longer bars are flexible. I have a Losco and it is so 
>>>>>> flexible that I quit using it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2022, at 4:51 AM, Daniel MacPherson  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>>

Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Daniel MacPherson]

Of course, the Jim stem is sold out. Anyone have a 120mm Jim Stem for sale? 
I might get a cheapo off Ebay and see if that works then buyer a nicer one 
later. I will do the headset test as well. I've had an experienced mechanic 
set-up the headset so I'm pretty confident that it is not the problem. 

On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 10:15:26 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Daniel wrote: "I was thinking the Jim stem with the double bolt and uprise 
> angle might solve the problem. Thoughts?"
>
> I would think it would make a big improvement. The Billie bars are still 
> wide bars with a fair amount of flex but moving to a stem like that made a 
> big difference for me when I did it. I agree the amount of flex with my 
> original Billie/Nitto tech setup was excessive.
>
> On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 10:10:22 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> While not as aesthetically pleasing, you could try a threadless to quill 
>> stem adapter and see if running a threadless stem with a wider clamping 
>> area will fix your issue.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:30 AM James Valiensi  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> If the handlebar clamp on the stem is too loose the bars will slip and 
>>> rotate in it. The bolt needs to be really tight.
>>> You can tell if the headset is loose with this method:
>>> 1. stand in front of the bike
>>> 2. wrap one o your hands around the top nut, stem and top of the head 
>>> tube
>>> 3. hold the front brake lever realy hard with the other hand
>>> 4. push the bike back and forth a bit
>>> 5. if the headset is loose you will feel the differ parts moving under 
>>> the hand that is wrapped around the headset
>>>
>>> Some of the longer bars are flexible. I have a Losco and it is so 
>>> flexible that I quit using it.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> On Jul 29, 2022, at 4:51 AM, Daniel MacPherson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>> I’m having issues with my handlebar set-up. I’m running Nitto Technomic 
>>> stem with Billie bars. The Billie bars are 25.4. The Nitto stem is 26.0. 
>>> I’m using a problem solvers shim to fit the bars properly.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, I get a lot of flex in the Billie bars when I apply any weight 
>>> to the bars. I’ve applied a lot of torque to the nut on the stem and it 
>>> helps a bit but doesn’t solve the issue. I’m worried it might be the 
>>> headset; however the headset appears tight and smooth. Have you guys 
>>> experienced similar issues? Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel MacPherson
>>>
>>> Tallahassee Florida
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 8:06:16 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good to know Daniel! I have the stock DXR pads on for now. Only have 
>>>> 100 miles or so and I still have no grind or squeal. Something I have been 
>>>> annoyed with since going to disc brakes 15 or so years back. 
>>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:44:03 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I fixed the squealing on my Susie by toeing in the Kool Stop pads just 
>>>>> now.  It's worth the try if you are getting annoyed by the constant 
>>>>> screech. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely, 
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel M
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 8:07:10 AM UTC-4 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to know the Salmon pads squeal for lots of people. This isn't my 
>>>>>> first fight with salmon pads on motolites, but it's the first time I 
>>>>>> asked 
>>>>>> about it. I'll just swap out the pads like usual, and there will prob be 
>>>>>> a 
>>>>>> free for shipping salmon pads post here once I get everything sorted 
>>>>>> out. I 
>>>>>> have at least 2 sets to get rid of now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wally, the dual compound mountain pads are my go to. I haven't had 
>>>>>> any problems with them squealing before. There must be something about 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> shape of the thinlines that leads to the squeal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:59:35 AM UTC-5 wallye...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>

Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Daniel MacPherson]

Okay. I have Albatross bars on my Surly with.no flex. But the stem is
headless so I wonder if the tall Nitto stem is the main contributing
culprit. I don’t mind a little flex but this is too much.

I was thinking the Jim stem with the double bolt and uprise angle might
solve the problem. Thoughts?

Daniel M
Tallahassee Fl
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 8:18 AM Johnny Alien 
wrote:

> I had Billie bars on a tall nitto stem and had silly amounts of flex.
> Moving to a stem that had uprise instead of that negative angle helped a
> lot because I don't have to run them so high. I also think the Billie bars
> are just super flexy bars. I moved to losco and tosco bars and that also
> helped a bunch.
>
> On Friday, July 29, 2022 at 7:51:03 AM UTC-4 Daniel MacPherson wrote:
>
>> Hey Everyone,
>>
>>
>> I’m having issues with my handlebar set-up. I’m running Nitto Technomic
>> stem with Billie bars. The Billie bars are 25.4. The Nitto stem is 26.0.
>> I’m using a problem solvers shim to fit the bars properly.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I get a lot of flex in the Billie bars when I apply any weight to
>> the bars. I’ve applied a lot of torque to the nut on the stem and it helps
>> a bit but doesn’t solve the issue. I’m worried it might be the headset;
>> however the headset appears tight and smooth. Have you guys experienced
>> similar issues? Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Daniel MacPherson
>>
>> Tallahassee Florida
>>
>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 8:06:16 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Good to know Daniel! I have the stock DXR pads on for now. Only have 100
>>> miles or so and I still have no grind or squeal. Something I have been
>>> annoyed with since going to disc brakes 15 or so years back.
>>> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:44:03 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I fixed the squealing on my Susie by toeing in the Kool Stop pads just
>>>> now.  It's worth the try if you are getting annoyed by the constant
>>>> screech.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Daniel M
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 8:07:10 AM UTC-4 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good to know the Salmon pads squeal for lots of people. This isn't my
>>>>> first fight with salmon pads on motolites, but it's the first time I asked
>>>>> about it. I'll just swap out the pads like usual, and there will prob be a
>>>>> free for shipping salmon pads post here once I get everything sorted out. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> have at least 2 sets to get rid of now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wally, the dual compound mountain pads are my go to. I haven't had any
>>>>> problems with them squealing before. There must be something about the
>>>>> shape of the thinlines that leads to the squeal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:59:35 AM UTC-5 wallye...@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm running Paul Motolites and the Kool Stop mountain pads, in
>>>>>> salmon, for my Gus.  No issues for fit or squealing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:30:18 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have found that the thin line salmons, when working, are great
>>>>>>> pads but by far the fussiest to setup. Getting them to be quiet can 
>>>>>>> require
>>>>>>> such ludicrous amounts of toe-in that the pad wont last more than 1000
>>>>>>> miles. One trick that has worked previously worked is cleaning the pads
>>>>>>> themselves with isopropyl and then with hot detergent water. Not one or 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> other. Both, in that order.
>>>>>>> I am trying the grey cheapy pads that riv started selling with
>>>>>>> Neo-retros on my Susie and the setup was painless, and the braking is 
>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>> improved to my previous experience with Neo-retros.
>>>>>>> Sometimes everything just works, sometimes It doesn't, and if I
>>>>>>> could tell which was which in advance I'd never learn anything.
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Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Daniel MacPherson]

Hey Everyone,


I’m having issues with my handlebar set-up. I’m running Nitto Technomic 
stem with Billie bars. The Billie bars are 25.4. The Nitto stem is 26.0. 
I’m using a problem solvers shim to fit the bars properly.


Anyway, I get a lot of flex in the Billie bars when I apply any weight to 
the bars. I’ve applied a lot of torque to the nut on the stem and it helps 
a bit but doesn’t solve the issue. I’m worried it might be the headset; 
however the headset appears tight and smooth. Have you guys experienced 
similar issues? Thoughts?


Thanks,


Daniel MacPherson

Tallahassee Florida

On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 8:06:16 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good to know Daniel! I have the stock DXR pads on for now. Only have 100 
> miles or so and I still have no grind or squeal. Something I have been 
> annoyed with since going to disc brakes 15 or so years back. 
> On Thursday, July 14, 2022 at 11:44:03 AM UTC-7 Daniel MacPherson wrote:
>
>> I fixed the squealing on my Susie by toeing in the Kool Stop pads just 
>> now.  It's worth the try if you are getting annoyed by the constant 
>> screech. 
>>
>>
>> Sincerely, 
>>
>> Daniel M
>>
>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 8:07:10 AM UTC-4 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>
>>> Good to know the Salmon pads squeal for lots of people. This isn't my 
>>> first fight with salmon pads on motolites, but it's the first time I asked 
>>> about it. I'll just swap out the pads like usual, and there will prob be a 
>>> free for shipping salmon pads post here once I get everything sorted out. I 
>>> have at least 2 sets to get rid of now.
>>>
>>> Wally, the dual compound mountain pads are my go to. I haven't had any 
>>> problems with them squealing before. There must be something about the 
>>> shape of the thinlines that leads to the squeal.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:59:35 AM UTC-5 wallye...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm running Paul Motolites and the Kool Stop mountain pads, in salmon, 
>>>> for my Gus.  No issues for fit or squealing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:30:18 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have found that the thin line salmons, when working, are great pads 
>>>>> but by far the fussiest to setup. Getting them to be quiet can require 
>>>>> such 
>>>>> ludicrous amounts of toe-in that the pad wont last more than 1000 miles. 
>>>>> One trick that has worked previously worked is cleaning the pads 
>>>>> themselves 
>>>>> with isopropyl and then with hot detergent water. Not one or the other. 
>>>>> Both, in that order.
>>>>> I am trying the grey cheapy pads that riv started selling with 
>>>>> Neo-retros on my Susie and the setup was painless, and the braking is far 
>>>>> improved to my previous experience with Neo-retros.
>>>>> Sometimes everything just works, sometimes It doesn't, and if I could 
>>>>> tell which was which in advance I'd never learn anything.
>>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] WTB: Large MUSA Shorts and/or Sackville Toursacks

[Daniel Rooke]

Hello,

I hesitated too long and missed out on the new MUSA black shorts.  Does 
anyone want to sell theirs - or any MUSA shorts in size large?  I got a 
pair of the new ranger green ones so ok on those.

Also, another thing I missed out on a while back the Sackville toursacks - 
does anyone have a set they'd part with?  Open to all stages of beausage.  

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Daniel MacPherson]

I fixed the squealing on my Susie by toeing in the Kool Stop pads just 
now.  It's worth the try if you are getting annoyed by the constant 
screech. 


Sincerely, 

Daniel M

On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 8:07:10 AM UTC-4 Paul Clifton wrote:

> Good to know the Salmon pads squeal for lots of people. This isn't my 
> first fight with salmon pads on motolites, but it's the first time I asked 
> about it. I'll just swap out the pads like usual, and there will prob be a 
> free for shipping salmon pads post here once I get everything sorted out. I 
> have at least 2 sets to get rid of now.
>
> Wally, the dual compound mountain pads are my go to. I haven't had any 
> problems with them squealing before. There must be something about the 
> shape of the thinlines that leads to the squeal.
>
> Paul
>
> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:59:35 AM UTC-5 wallye...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm running Paul Motolites and the Kool Stop mountain pads, in salmon, 
>> for my Gus.  No issues for fit or squealing.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 6:30:18 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> I have found that the thin line salmons, when working, are great pads 
>>> but by far the fussiest to setup. Getting them to be quiet can require such 
>>> ludicrous amounts of toe-in that the pad wont last more than 1000 miles. 
>>> One trick that has worked previously worked is cleaning the pads themselves 
>>> with isopropyl and then with hot detergent water. Not one or the other. 
>>> Both, in that order.
>>> I am trying the grey cheapy pads that riv started selling with 
>>> Neo-retros on my Susie and the setup was painless, and the braking is far 
>>> improved to my previous experience with Neo-retros.
>>> Sometimes everything just works, sometimes It doesn't, and if I could 
>>> tell which was which in advance I'd never learn anything.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Silver2 shifter apparently shift 12 speeds fine, even with SRAM rd

[Daniel MacPherson]

When my Silver1 shifter broke and I replaced it with a Suntour Barcon. I 
was surprised by how easier it was to shift to the last cog on a 10 speed 
cassette compared to the Silver1 shifter. My initial set-up with the 
Silver1 shifter was with a Deore XT 10-speed derailleur. The last cog was 
almost impossible to shift and sometimes didn't. I replaced the Deore Xt 
with a Claris 9-speed derailleur and that fixed the problem. However, I had 
to swing the Silver1 shifter all the way up to get to the last cog. It is 
now easier with Suntour Barcon. I sometimes wonder why a bicycle company 
hasn't come out with a modern version of the Suntour Barcon

Daniel M 
Tallahassee, FL 

On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 3:24:14 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> RBW said it won't work; quoting BS quoting Riv: 
>
> *These are compatible with up to 9 speed rear derailers only. Not 
> compatible with SRAM rear derailers.*
>
> But this recently appeared on the web page:
>
> HOLY COW, FOLKS: These will shift up to 11 speeds when used with a 9/8 
> speed rear derailer. The latest 10/11/+ rear derailers require more cable 
> to be pulled making them no good but a 9 speed rear derailer will still 
> shift through an 11-speed cassette easily. Match your chain to your 
> cassette, and the 9sp rear derailer works!
>
> In fact, BSNYC is using them to shift 12.
>
> The main complication is indeed lever travel; and this is why I find 
> Suntour Barcons with more "pull per inch" better for 10 cogs than Silver1s, 
> even though this means that shifting takes, theoretically, a bit more care. 
> In practice, the Barcons work fine with 10.
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 10:54 AM Jim Bronson  wrote:
>
>> I guess my reaction to this would be "why would it not work".  It's a 
>> friction shift lever.
>>
>> So long as the limit screws on the rear derailleur are set correctly, and 
>> the lever has sufficient travel to sweep the entire distance between the 
>> high stop and the low stop when connected to the cable, there's no reason 
>> it wouldn't work.
>>
>> I suppose you could also talk about cable pull ratios and maybe there's a 
>> situation under which a friction shift lever didn't have enough travel 
>> because of multiplication or division of travel, but it still goes back to 
>> the same question, is there enough travel when the thing is connected to a 
>> cable, so more or less a yes or no question.
>>
>> Jim
>> Austin suburbs, TX
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 5:41 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> https://bikesnobnyc.com/2022/07/08/index-this/#more-11189
>>>
>>> I'm only up to 10, and that with an 8-sp-era road rd and Barcons, but 
>>> this is heartening news. 
>>>
>>> I'm tempted to try my Barcons with a 12-sp road cassette, tho' I'd have 
>>> to swap out the DA 7401 rd for an 8-sp XT rd, I guess to handle a 
>>> big-enough granny cog to make it all worthwhile. Actually, I should proceed 
>>> gently, and simply go to 11 first.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

[Daniel MacPherson]

Thanks for the review. I remember seeing them a while back on the QBP
website and thought to myself that I should snag the last two. I regret not
doing that now.

Sincerely,

Daniel M
Tallahassee, FL

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 9:46 PM esoterica etc 
wrote:

>
> Hey Daniel,
>
> I have a set of Paul Racers with TRP RRL levers on my Soma San Marcos
> (Riv-made and very similar to an AHH), and a set of the Tektro 559s with
> Shimano 600 non-aero levers on my Schwinn World Voyageur set up as a double
> single-speed bike.
>
> I've taken the Schwinn on roads where I've gotten right around 30 mph (~72
> gear inches), as well as some singletrack (~49 gear inches), and the
> Tektros slow and stop just fine for me. I am running 700c wheels on the
> Schwinn and the brake pads are just about halfway down in the slots, so I
> do have a bit more mechanical advantage than someone running 650b wheels
> with the pads at the very bottom of the slots.
>
> Having said that, the Paul Racers are much better in my opinion. Even
> though the Racers are almost maxed out at the bottom of the slots on the
> San Marcos (650b wheels), they have much more power than the Tektros
> at mid-slot. The Racers also have a solidity to them when engaging, and for
> me they're very confidence-inspiring. I'm extremely happy with my Racers
> and would highly recommend them (if you can find them). All the best,
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 4:55 PM Daniel MacPherson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Are the Paul Racer brakes better? I’m tempted to buy the latest Crust
>> road bike in the near future but I don’t want to run 559s or Mafacs.
>>
>> I know they’ve been discontinued but I’m sure over the next 6 months, a
>> couple will pop-up on Ebay or the ibob community.
>>
>> Daniel M
>> Tallahassee Fl
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 3:23 PM Josiah Anderson <
>> andersonjosi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Eric and others who find the 559s lacking in stopping
>>> power. They're more or less good enough in dry conditions, but if it's wet,
>>> not so much, and they're even worse in the snow. One of my scariest bike
>>> experiences ever was on a 650b conversion of an old Trek with 559s (with
>>> salmon pads), coming down a long hill with a busy intersection at the
>>> bottom. It was raining, and having recently switched to the Tektros from
>>> Mafac Racers, I was expecting my brakes to work, but they didn't. I went
>>> through the intersection at probably 35mph, and I managed to make the turn
>>> and somehow there were no cars, but it still freaked me out. The 559s don't
>>> seem to be able to squeeze hard enough to create enough friction to dry off
>>> wet rims in a revolution or two like most other (good) rim brakes do, so
>>> they just keep skating on top of the layer of water. Same deal for ice,
>>> although there are fewer brakes that do well with that.
>>>
>>> I've noticed that it seems like many of the people who like the 559s
>>> ride in relatively dry places and many of us who regularly deal with wet
>>> and freezing conditions find them inadequate. That's just my hypothesis on
>>> the wide variety of opinions on these brakes; I know not everyone fits this
>>> pattern.
>>>
>>> (Apologies if this post comes through late- I post frequently on IBOB
>>> but not as much here so might not have Cyclofiend Jim's approval to post).
>>>
>>> Josiah Anderson
>>> Missoula, MT
>>>
>>> Le lun. 11 juil. 2022 à 15:52, Cyclofiend Jim  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> I must ride a lot slower than all's y'all's... but I've honestly never
>>>> had any trouble with my brakes on my AHH. I use the original standard
>>>> Shimano Lever  that shipped with it in aught-seven (probably discontinued)
>>>> on a set of Noodle bars. They don't bottom out at full pressure and the
>>>> wheel will skid.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc522-cyclofiend_jim0908.html
>>>>
>>>> - Jim
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 3:41:01 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Laing: Forgive me if you've posted some before, but if not, I'd be
>>>>> delighted to see photos of your Riv custom "racing bike." 53.4 X 62?? What
>>>>> sort of bar? Me, I fit almost the diametrical opposite: 60 X 56 c-c for a
>>>>> drop-bar bike.
>>>>>
>>>>> To all: I've found this discussion interesting, both regarding braking
>>

Re: [RBW] Mechanical: Bent rapid rise derailer cage

[Daniel MacPherson]

Any sign of an accident? Maybe a bunch of scrapes along the pulley cage. If 
it’s that bent you would expect some visible damage. But i would exhaust 
all other options before trying to straighten the pulley cage. I’ve never 
done it. It strikes me as very difficult to do it without damaging the rest 
of the derailleur.



Daniel M 

Tallahassee Fl
On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 5:27:45 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Also on the checklist of things to check: the bolt for XTR rear mechs is 
> aluminum.  If a previous installer cross threaded it, it's pretty easy for 
> the steel of the dropout to kind of rethread that bolt in that crooked 
> orientation, if the previous installer was pretty ham-handed.  If that were 
> the case, the "bend" would be in the bolt, and "bending" the cage in the 
> bench vise would be a case of two wrongs trying to make a right.
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 2:08:37 PM UTC-7 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Can't tell by the picture..
>> Have you checked your derailleur hanger alignment
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 1:15 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey hey hey everyone. I recently picked up a Shimano XTR rapid rise 
>>> mech, the M951. When it came in the mail all seemed good to go. Nice and 
>>> clean! But I went to install it on my Appaloosa and found the cage is out 
>>> of alignment. Picture attached. The pulley wheels are not vertically 
>>> aligned with the cogs of the cassette.
>>>
>>> I had a 2021 Deore rear mech on the bike when I started, it was working 
>>> fine. I ended up putting a XTR M952 on the bike and it works great! So the 
>>> issue is definitely with this rapid rise XTR. 
>>>
>>> Can anyone recommend a fix for this? I wanted to check with the group, 
>>> seek some wisdom, before I mounted the mech in my bench vise and started 
>>> torquing. 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> [image: s-l1600.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

[Daniel MacPherson]

Are the Paul Racer brakes better? I’m tempted to buy the latest Crust road
bike in the near future but I don’t want to run 559s or Mafacs.

I know they’ve been discontinued but I’m sure over the next 6 months, a
couple will pop-up on Ebay or the ibob community.

Daniel M
Tallahassee Fl


On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 3:23 PM Josiah Anderson 
wrote:

> I agree with Eric and others who find the 559s lacking in stopping power.
> They're more or less good enough in dry conditions, but if it's wet, not so
> much, and they're even worse in the snow. One of my scariest bike
> experiences ever was on a 650b conversion of an old Trek with 559s (with
> salmon pads), coming down a long hill with a busy intersection at the
> bottom. It was raining, and having recently switched to the Tektros from
> Mafac Racers, I was expecting my brakes to work, but they didn't. I went
> through the intersection at probably 35mph, and I managed to make the turn
> and somehow there were no cars, but it still freaked me out. The 559s don't
> seem to be able to squeeze hard enough to create enough friction to dry off
> wet rims in a revolution or two like most other (good) rim brakes do, so
> they just keep skating on top of the layer of water. Same deal for ice,
> although there are fewer brakes that do well with that.
>
> I've noticed that it seems like many of the people who like the 559s ride
> in relatively dry places and many of us who regularly deal with wet and
> freezing conditions find them inadequate. That's just my hypothesis on the
> wide variety of opinions on these brakes; I know not everyone fits this
> pattern.
>
> (Apologies if this post comes through late- I post frequently on IBOB but
> not as much here so might not have Cyclofiend Jim's approval to post).
>
> Josiah Anderson
> Missoula, MT
>
> Le lun. 11 juil. 2022 à 15:52, Cyclofiend Jim  a
> écrit :
>
>> I must ride a lot slower than all's y'all's... but I've honestly never
>> had any trouble with my brakes on my AHH. I use the original standard
>> Shimano Lever  that shipped with it in aught-seven (probably discontinued)
>> on a set of Noodle bars. They don't bottom out at full pressure and the
>> wheel will skid.
>>
>> http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc522-cyclofiend_jim0908.html
>>
>> - Jim
>>
>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 3:41:01 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Laing: Forgive me if you've posted some before, but if not, I'd be
>>> delighted to see photos of your Riv custom "racing bike." 53.4 X 62?? What
>>> sort of bar? Me, I fit almost the diametrical opposite: 60 X 56 c-c for a
>>> drop-bar bike.
>>>
>>> To all: I've found this discussion interesting, both regarding braking
>>> effectiveness and road bike aesthetics. I have to say that I myself would
>>> prefer cantis or V brakes, or braze-on centerpulls instead of what appear
>>> to me clunky very-long reach calipers on a "gofast" road bike if medium
>>> reach calipers didn't work; and in fact, I've seen a number of custom or
>>> high-end production road bikes from before WWII built for cantilever
>>> brakes. I think a great many of these were on the Classics Rendezvous and
>>> Classic Lightweights UK websites.
>>>
>>> IME, I tend to agree with those who say that almost all brakes work
>>> decently, if not brilliantly, if properly set up, and if the levers are
>>> appropriate to the brakes proper. I know that my otherwise wonderful
>>> second-gen (? The tab-operated cam) Dura Ace single pivots worked badly,
>>> even with salmons, pulled by 7410-era levers, while the single pivot (high
>>> end DC? Superbe Pro?) 57 mm reach single pivot on the gofast pulled by the
>>> same levers works very well indeed, for power and for modulation.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 10:34 AM lconley  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Appearance was a large consideration when I selected the Rene
>>>> Herse braze-on centerpull brakes for my Rivendell Custom that was intended
>>>> as a road bike. I call it a fat man's racing bike. "Racing Bike" as in no
>>>> braze-ons for racks, no fender eyelets, no holes in the "brake" or chain
>>>> stay bridges, - clean stays and forks but a really long wheelbase. The long
>>>> chainstays are balanced by the really long main triangle (62 cm ETT x 53.4
>>>> ST). What I did not realize was how large the Rene Herse brakes are, they
>>>> dwarf my Mafac Competition , DiaCompe, and Weinmann centerpulls. But they
>>>> still have that fifties - sixties racing bike look. The centerpull
>>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

[Daniel MacPherson]

I agree with the sentiment that road bikes look better with calipers on 
them. Though I find the long-reach caliper brakes (Tektro R559) to be 
rather ugly looking. Road bikes with disc brakes or v-brakes still look odd 
to me. I assume they must be gravel or cyclocross bikes. Maybe Rivendell 
should develop some kick-ass long reach caliper brakes. 


Daniel M 

Tallahassee Fl

On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 10:31:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Part of the Riv association with long-reach calipers (my opinion) is Grant 
> had them made back in the days when road bikes were closely associated with 
> calipers and he wanted more room for big tires. We don't think anything of 
> it now but at the time if your bike had canti posts it was a tourer or mtb, 
> you couldn't sell it to folks looking for a road frame. 
>
> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:24:33 PM UTC-7 A. D. M. wrote:
>
>> I assume the folks at Rivendell find them adequate. I’ve used the 559s 
>> (with kook stop pads) on a fixed gear with a front brake only in the 
>> mountains and found it worked fine. I’ve actually done this on multiple 
>> 650b fixed conversions. I’ve even used DC750s in this setup. 
>>
>> I’ve also used the Mafac Raids and thought they were fine (but finicky to 
>> set up sans squealing).
>>
>> I like v brakes the most for ease of setup and stopping power but many 
>> people find them “grabby.” I have yet to find a brake I find inadequate 
>> (with kool stop pads).
>>
>> I think brake performance expectations vary quite a bit. 
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Aaron in El Paso 
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2022, at 18:52, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I didn't realize those brakes would not work. They were marked as long 
>> reach. I can't remember what I used them on before but it must have been 
>> something for mid-reach brakes.
>>
>> IMO I am just baffled they keep making bikes for those brakes when there 
>> are no great options with great stopping power. Especially when there are 
>> so many nice V, mini-V and canti brakes out there.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:28:16 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, the AHH in question uses long reach calipers, not mid reach like 
>>> the VO.
>>>
>>> My experience with long reach calipers has been universally bad (Tektro, 
>>> DC centerpulls). They're adequate in the dry, but with wet rims, there is 
>>> no stopping power at all.
>>>
>>> I like a lot about the AHH, but I wouldn't get it due to the brakes. 
>>>
>>> Eric 
>>> Plain City, OH
>>> where I'm not really satisfied with the mid reach Tektros on my current 
>>> Trek,either
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> The issue with the VO is they are only midreach (47-57). Many Riv bikes 
>>>> require longer reach. 
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Aaron in El Paso 
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 9, 2022, at 17:55, Forrest  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Johnny, I had those brakes on a bike once. Very good stopping power; 
>>>> they seemed a little stouter than other sidepulls. 
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:43:41 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Forgot the link.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/brakes/products/grand-cru-long-reach-brakes
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:43:25 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I had a bike that needed long sidepulls these are the ones I would 
>>>>>> have. I have used them before and I don't think there is a long reach 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> is as strong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:58:27 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:37:19 AM UTC-5 Pierre wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not super happy with the original Silver calipers raw stopping 
>>>>>>>> power (admittedly quite spoiled by excellent hydro discs on other 
>>>>>>>> bikes).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had mixed results with Silver/Tektro long-reach dual-pivot brakes. 
>>>>>>> On my Bleriot, with some dual-compound pads, they were brilliant. On 
>>>>>>> other 
>>>>>>> bikes I had less

Re: [RBW] Re: Long reach brake options for AHH

[Daniel MacPherson]

I once installed Tektro R559 brakes on a friends 27” to 700 road bike 
conversion. She mentions to this day that she could never stop adequately 
on that bike. Personally, I don’t understand bikes that need long reach 
calipers. Either go canti/v-brake or disc brakes for these type of bikes.


Daniel M 

Tallahassee Fl
On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 9:16:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Johnny, I believe that's how the long-reach-caliper Cheviot became the 
> v-brake Platypus. V-brakes just work and I spec'd them on my light duty 
> mostly-pavement custom as well. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 5:52:03 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I didn't realize those brakes would not work. They were marked as long 
>> reach. I can't remember what I used them on before but it must have been 
>> something for mid-reach brakes.
>>
>> IMO I am just baffled they keep making bikes for those brakes when there 
>> are no great options with great stopping power. Especially when there are 
>> so many nice V, mini-V and canti brakes out there.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:28:16 PM UTC-4 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, the AHH in question uses long reach calipers, not mid reach like 
>>> the VO.
>>>
>>> My experience with long reach calipers has been universally bad (Tektro, 
>>> DC centerpulls). They're adequate in the dry, but with wet rims, there is 
>>> no stopping power at all.
>>>
>>> I like a lot about the AHH, but I wouldn't get it due to the brakes. 
>>>
>>> Eric 
>>> Plain City, OH
>>> where I'm not really satisfied with the mid reach Tektros on my current 
>>> Trek,either
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 8:21 PM  wrote:
>>>
>>>> The issue with the VO is they are only midreach (47-57). Many Riv bikes 
>>>> require longer reach. 
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Aaron in El Paso 
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 9, 2022, at 17:55, Forrest  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Johnny, I had those brakes on a bike once. Very good stopping power; 
>>>> they seemed a little stouter than other sidepulls. 
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:43:41 PM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Forgot the link.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/brakes/products/grand-cru-long-reach-brakes
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 7:43:25 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I had a bike that needed long sidepulls these are the ones I would 
>>>>>> have. I have used them before and I don't think there is a long reach 
>>>>>> that 
>>>>>> is as strong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 6:58:27 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 8:37:19 AM UTC-5 Pierre wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not super happy with the original Silver calipers raw stopping 
>>>>>>>> power (admittedly quite spoiled by excellent hydro discs on other 
>>>>>>>> bikes).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had mixed results with Silver/Tektro long-reach dual-pivot brakes. 
>>>>>>> On my Bleriot, with some dual-compound pads, they were brilliant. On 
>>>>>>> other 
>>>>>>> bikes I had less brilliant experiences. I suspect it had something to 
>>>>>>> do 
>>>>>>> with the levers I was using, but I never did a full, controlled 
>>>>>>> experiment. 
>>>>>>> The levers on my Bleriot were older Aero Gran Compe. I also can suggest 
>>>>>>> that low-compression cable housing made a difference for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That said, the Yokozuna hybrid disc brakes on my newest bike (which 
>>>>>>> replaced the Bleriot) are a very different feel. I can't definitely say 
>>>>>>> they have more ultimate power, but it takes a lot less hand power to 
>>>>>>> get to 
>>>>>>> max.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the Dia Compe 610-N calipers (not on braze-ons) on a bike and 
>>>>>>> they proved to be excellent stoppers when I was riding pretty fast and 
>>>>>>> a 
>>>>>&g

Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Daniel MacPherson]

Not many options for wide-rimmed tubeless compatible rims that can handle

V-brakes unfortunately. I had a QBP watchlist set-up between the 
cliffhanger rim and the Velo Orange Voyager rim. QBP received 3 cliffhanger 
rims one day in January and I snatched it up.


I’m having squealing issues as well with my kool stop pads. If it continues 
I’ll put back the stock black Avid pads.


Daniel M

Tallahassee
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:45:42 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I ran salmon brake pads with non-machined sidewall Cliffhanger rims for a 
> while on my 650B Atlantis.  The braking itself was horrible and the 
> squealing unacceptable.  These were Salmon inserts on Shimano CX70 brakes.  
> I switched back to the stock Shimano black inserts, with no other brake 
> adjustment at all (since it was just sliding in inserts), and the braking 
> improved dramatically and the squeal was gone.  
>
> Salmon brake pads work well in most situations (in my experience) but not 
> all situations.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 3:05:11 PM UTC-7 Paul Clifton wrote:
>
>> I bought these wheels fully knowing that the brakes would scrape the 
>> black off eventually, and I'm totally OK with that. After I scored the 
>> frame in the presale, I started looking for wheels and found this 
>> Cliffhanger/Deore set at one of the usual spots for less than $250. It has 
>> disc brake hubs, but so what for that price. And the all black just kind of 
>> inspired the build anyway ...
>>
>> I think this bike will break in nicely :) I hope the brake pads break in 
>> soon; the squeal is horrendous. Any tips for setting up Motolites with the 
>> Salmon pads that come with them?
>>
>> I now know exactly why I chose the Gus over the Suzie. This bike will 
>> haul anything over anything.
>> [image: 20220622_223557.jpg]
>> Paul in AR
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 9:13:54 PM UTC-5 Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>>
>>> I notice a lot of black cliffhangers being used on these...do people 
>>> know something i don't, or are they just gonna let those brake pads run 
>>> their course on the rim?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 4:21:29 PM UTC-4 Daniel MacPherson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay. It was the headset. I got my mechanic friend (30 years of 
>>>> experience) to fine tune the headset and he did a marvelous job. Nice 
>>>> smooth ride, no more flop.  I decided grips instead of newbaums tape. 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 2:39:04 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This, and also per my brief dalliance with a Susie..the front end has 
>>>>> a slack angle for trail riding which can feel a bit floppy if you're used 
>>>>> to more road-oriented Rivs. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 10:51:19 AM UTC-7 Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel,
>>>>>> I haven't had any self-steer on my Gus yet, but on my Baby Bike with 
>>>>>> 2.3" Big Ones, self steer was always when the tires were under-inflated. 
>>>>>> There's a sweet spot on those tires, but they're so big a plush that 
>>>>>> it's 
>>>>>> easy to ride them a little too low. I'd give them 5 more PSI and see how 
>>>>>> that feels (if the headset seems allright ...).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 11:29:45 AM UTC-5 Daniel MacPherson 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 700cc tires. 2.3 inches  G-One Speed Light Tires. Very little tread 
>>>>>>> so they are quick. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far I love the feel of the bike (very comfy). It feels 
>>>>>>> surprisingly light given its length and steel nature. My only issue is 
>>>>>>> some 
>>>>>>> self-steering issues while turning, but I don't know if that's due to 
>>>>>>> headset issues, the design of the bike, or the tires. Anyone else 
>>>>>>> experience these issues ? 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely, 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel M
>>>>>>> Tallahasee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:33:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>>>>
&

Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Daniel MacPherson]

Okay. Maybe it is the headset. What tires are you using?

Daniel 

On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 12:51:44 PM UTC-4 wallye...@gmail.com wrote:

> no issues on my Gus for self-steering.  I was riding no-hands on straights 
> and even into a few gradual corners.
>
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 12:29:45 PM UTC-4 Daniel MacPherson wrote:
>
>> 700cc tires. 2.3 inches  G-One Speed Light Tires. Very little tread so 
>> they are quick. 
>>
>> So far I love the feel of the bike (very comfy). It feels surprisingly 
>> light given its length and steel nature. My only issue is some 
>> self-steering issues while turning, but I don't know if that's due to 
>> headset issues, the design of the bike, or the tires. Anyone else 
>> experience these issues ? 
>>
>> Sincerely, 
>>
>> Daniel M
>> Tallahasee
>>
>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:33:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Brendon: A Riv cuddling up to a Volvo 240? That marriage will last.
>>>
>>> I've never owned a Volvo, but my brother, who drives 35X more in a year 
>>> than I do (me, no more than 500 miles per year), and traveled several times 
>>> per year between LA and ABQ until he moved to latter, owned several of 
>>> these, all hi-miles, and swore by them. Apparently, almost as good as old 
>>> Toyotas.
>>>
>>> What are those tires?
>>>
>>> Daniel: G-Ones! I can't read the tire size; 650B or 700C? 60s for 
>>> certain. 
>>>
>>> If those G-Ones are anything close to as nice as the ineffably wonderful 
>>> lightest-model Big Ones, then those are very, very nice tires indeed. What 
>>> model G-One, and how do you find them?
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, who just had a nice early-monsoon, cool-temp, mixed 
>>> pavement/dirt ride on the 700C X 60 Big One-shod Matthews 1:1.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 12:33 PM Daniel MacPherson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please see attached for my Hillibike. First time Riv Owner. I always 
>>>> wanted a Riv bike and finally pulled the trigger with the Susie. I will 
>>>> mostly use it for commuting but maybe the occasional gravel trail. 
>>>>
>>>> Daniel MacPherson
>>>> Tallahassee, Fl 
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Daniel MacPherson]

700cc tires. 2.3 inches  G-One Speed Light Tires. Very little tread so they 
are quick. 

So far I love the feel of the bike (very comfy). It feels surprisingly 
light given its length and steel nature. My only issue is some 
self-steering issues while turning, but I don't know if that's due to 
headset issues, the design of the bike, or the tires. Anyone else 
experience these issues ? 

Sincerely, 

Daniel M
Tallahasee

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:33:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Brendon: A Riv cuddling up to a Volvo 240? That marriage will last.
>
> I've never owned a Volvo, but my brother, who drives 35X more in a year 
> than I do (me, no more than 500 miles per year), and traveled several times 
> per year between LA and ABQ until he moved to latter, owned several of 
> these, all hi-miles, and swore by them. Apparently, almost as good as old 
> Toyotas.
>
> What are those tires?
>
> Daniel: G-Ones! I can't read the tire size; 650B or 700C? 60s for certain. 
>
> If those G-Ones are anything close to as nice as the ineffably wonderful 
> lightest-model Big Ones, then those are very, very nice tires indeed. What 
> model G-One, and how do you find them?
>
> Patrick Moore, who just had a nice early-monsoon, cool-temp, mixed 
> pavement/dirt ride on the 700C X 60 Big One-shod Matthews 1:1.
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 12:33 PM Daniel MacPherson  
> wrote:
>
>> Please see attached for my Hillibike. First time Riv Owner. I always 
>> wanted a Riv bike and finally pulled the trigger with the Susie. I will 
>> mostly use it for commuting but maybe the occasional gravel trail. 
>>
>> Daniel MacPherson
>> Tallahassee, Fl 
>>
>>

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[RBW] WTT: Framesets! 59 Clem H for 64 Clem L

[Daniel]

Possibly a long shot but I have a green Clem H with the swoopy seatstays, 
size 59cm. I'd love to trade for a 64cm Clem L, especially in RBW blue or 
mustard. I figured we keep our parts and just swap f/f/hs, each pay our own 
shipping. Local (SoCal) would be even better!

Interested? Drop me a line!

DanAf
Yorba Linda, CA

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[RBW] WTB: Roadish Riv (Homer, Roadini, Atlantis) Frameset or Completes

[Daniel Jackson]

Happy Sunday,

Looking for a roadish Rivendell frameset or complete bike for the 75-76cm 
saddle height range.

Thanks!
D. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: New Rivendell Cheviot 62cm

[Daniel Rooke]

Edit: should be 60cm

On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:07:03 PM UTC-4 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> I've overextended myself on bikes and have to sell this even though I 
> suspect I may regret it.  I bought this bike a few months ago from Halcyon 
> Bike Shop in Tennessee.  Someone had posted here about it being for sale 
> and I got it.  It's never been built up - basically new - it was hanging up 
> in the shop for years.  The only mark on it is a small paint chip I 
> photographed.  I'd like to make up what I paid for it if that's fair.  I 
> can ship through bike flights but would ideally sell it locally.  I'm in 
> New York.  But Bikeflights would be 18lbs and the dimensions are 45 x 26 x 
> 8 inches.  I'm asking $1600 plus shipping.  
>
> Photos 
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Ztqc6EAE_PE_cFMwUTAqDAaO5qUbNI4a>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: New Rivendell Cheviot 62cm

[Daniel Rooke]

I've overextended myself on bikes and have to sell this even though I 
suspect I may regret it.  I bought this bike a few months ago from Halcyon 
Bike Shop in Tennessee.  Someone had posted here about it being for sale 
and I got it.  It's never been built up - basically new - it was hanging up 
in the shop for years.  The only mark on it is a small paint chip I 
photographed.  I'd like to make up what I paid for it if that's fair.  I 
can ship through bike flights but would ideally sell it locally.  I'm in 
New York.  But Bikeflights would be 18lbs and the dimensions are 45 x 26 x 
8 inches.  I'm asking $1600 plus shipping.  

Photos 


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[RBW] FS: Platypus (50cm) and Randonneur (63cm)

[Daniel]

Hi, all!
My friend (and former owner of my Clem H!) Gautam is selling a 50cm 
Platypus: 
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/bik/d/azusa-rivendell-platypus-50-cm-like-new/7440088017.html

It's stunning...the pictures do NOT do it justice! It's no secret these are 
sold out and those who were fortunate to grab one love them! Please reach 
out to him via his CL ad, but if you won't hear back (you will!), let me 
know and I can nudge him.

While I'm posting, I'll make a shameless plug for J Bryant randonneur. It's 
63cm, kitted out with all the right bits (Herse cranks, Edelux, Noodle 
bars, Berthoud bag and Dura Ace 9s, etc.). It's also ready for a new 
home: 
https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/d/yorba-linda-63cm-custom-randonneur/7416115606.html

Thank you for your time!

Best,

Daniel
Yorba Linda, CA

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[RBW] WTT: New 62cm Cheviot Frame for Hunqapillar

[Daniel Rooke]

Hello,

I have a new 62cm Sage Cheviot that I'd like to trade or sell for an 
equivalent sized Hunqapillar or Bombadil.  Hopefully somebody out there 
wants to make this trade happen.  Can discuss options.  Thanks.

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[RBW] WTT: 62cm Cheviot Frame for 62cm Hunqapillar

[Daniel Rooke]

Hello,

I have a new 62cm Sage Cheviot frame that I'd like to trade for a 62cm 
Hunqapillar frame - preferably the green one but that's not a deal 
breaker.  Also more than willing to trading for a Bombadil frame, although 
those seem much rarer.  

Thanks,
Daniel

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[RBW] Re: FS - Sackville Saddlebag with Kangaroo Pouch - Olive

[Daniel Rooke]

PM Sent.  
On Thursday, October 21, 2021 at 7:12:50 PM UTC-4 Huston wrote:

> For sale is a gently used Sackville saddlebag in olive.  I'm pretty sure 
> this is the medium SaddleSack, which has evolved into the current 
> HappiSack.  Includes kangaroo pouch.  No real issues to mention: some wear 
> on the bottom leather, but the bag has seen limited use.  Pictures are 
> available here 
> .
>   
> $180.00 plus shipping.
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
> Huston
> Lexington, KY
>

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[RBW] WTB: Hunqapillar

[Daniel Rooke]

I missed my chance to order one of these and it's been bothering me ever 
since.  Does anyone have a 59cm or 62cm they'd part with?  I'm willing to 
pay a good price and flexible on whether it's a complete or only a frame 
and fork.  Also open to used condition as well.  Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking advice - Sam Hillborne vs Atlantis

[Daniel Searson]

Thank you Jason -- I think you've just about convinced me that the Atlantis
is the way to go! You are right that it is a dream bike, there is something
so different about them as well compared to anything else out there. Good
point on the front wheel positioning, modern mountain geometry has
certainly gone for the longer TT / shorter stem combo for that reason as
well.

I'm a serial bike tinkerer (aren't we all??) so I'd probably be likely to
change to and from upright bars and back again anyway

And thanks for the photos Joe, that is a lovely Appaloosa as well!

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 at 04:40, Jason Fuller  wrote:

> I certainly don't think you can do wrong between the two, given your
> riding plans, and the Appaloosa would do the trick well too!  If you're
> really attached to the Atlantis for its color and extra tube, I would
> personally hold out for that - it's a lifetime bike right, might as well
> get exactly what you dreamt of!  The longer top tube can be accommodated
> thanks to recent advances in very short stems - I'd start with a 5cm long
> Tallux, which is what I run on my Hillborne because I like a shorter reach
> with my drops, and if it's still too long you can get a Crust BJ stem in
> 26.0 clamp that has less than 30mm of reach.  Heck, with a
> quill-to-threadless adapter, there are also zero reach options from
> Analog.
>
> This might sound like a band-aid for poor fit, but I don't feel that's the
> case at all - this isn't a typical road bike, and the long frame / short
> stem combo gets the front wheel further out in front of you for better
> off-road handling and comfort.  Basically, it allows you to run drops but
> keep your center of gravity similar to where it would be with flat bars,
> for better mixed-terrain handling.  Also, since this is a lifetime bike
> hopefully, the Atlantis will suit upright bars very nicely if your aging
> body requires it in the (hopefully distant) future!
>
> Also, the Atlantis will leave more options for you to go bigger or smaller
> on tires - you don't have to use all that tire clearance, but it's nice to
> know it's there.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 9 June 2021 at 05:16:19 UTC-7 daniel@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Thank you for the welcome and for the detailed and thought out replies!
>> Your advice is much appreciated. It sounds like it would be a good idea to
>> talk with Rivendell directly, which I have been meaning to do as well. Its
>> good to also get some honest feedback from people with direct experience. I
>> think based on some of your replies I would be leaning towards the Sam
>> Hillborne, I certainly don't think I'd be disappointed.
>>
>> Michael - the Appaloosa did cross my mind as well, thanks for the
>> suggestion. For some reason it doesn't resonate with me as much, perhaps
>> it's the lack of rainbow top tube! I think all the photos I've seen of them
>> are upright bar builds, so I can't really picture the frame with drop bars.
>>
>> One thing I didn't mention is that I live in Australia, so Rivendells are
>> super rare here. In fact, I've only ever seen one in the flesh (a Platypus,
>> coincidentally). There is a bike shop here in Adelaide who have recently
>> started importing Rivendells which has got me thinking about all of this.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 09:08, Michael Williams 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Daniel,  the new Appaloosas are being released soon.  Maybe a release
>>> this week?  You gotta be on it though, recent runs of Riv frames tend to go
>>> fast!   There’s a 60cm in this run,  which might fit your PBH well and it’s
>>> a little shorter in the TT  than the Atlantis which would/ might allow you
>>> you to ride drops; and a chainstay that’s in between the length of Atlantis
>>> and Hillborne and has a sloping TT which will allow you to get the bars up
>>> and has tire clearance between what the Atlantis and Hillborne will allow.
>>> I think the frames will be orange and mermaid ,  which are great colors.
>>> Take a look at the site or always give them a call. Every time I’ve called,
>>>  they love talkin bikes.-Mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2021, at 3:23 PM, J S  wrote:
>>>
>>> Daniel, I bought an Atlantis last summer and sold it in a month or
>>> less.  For me the long chain stays were not to my liking.  I was lucky to
>>> find a new Sam at a dealer before Riv got their last shipment in.  I really
>>> like the Sam Hillborne and run it with 48mm tires.  It rides and handles
>>> great.  I use Choco bars and sit at about 50-60 degrees, so

Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking advice - Sam Hillborne vs Atlantis

[Daniel Searson]

Hello everyone,

Thank you for the welcome and for the detailed and thought out replies!
Your advice is much appreciated. It sounds like it would be a good idea to
talk with Rivendell directly, which I have been meaning to do as well. Its
good to also get some honest feedback from people with direct experience. I
think based on some of your replies I would be leaning towards the Sam
Hillborne, I certainly don't think I'd be disappointed.

Michael - the Appaloosa did cross my mind as well, thanks for the
suggestion. For some reason it doesn't resonate with me as much, perhaps
it's the lack of rainbow top tube! I think all the photos I've seen of them
are upright bar builds, so I can't really picture the frame with drop bars.

One thing I didn't mention is that I live in Australia, so Rivendells are
super rare here. In fact, I've only ever seen one in the flesh (a Platypus,
coincidentally). There is a bike shop here in Adelaide who have recently
started importing Rivendells which has got me thinking about all of this.


Cheers
Daniel

On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 at 09:08, Michael Williams 
wrote:

> Daniel,  the new Appaloosas are being released soon.  Maybe a release this
> week?  You gotta be on it though, recent runs of Riv frames tend to go
> fast!   There’s a 60cm in this run,  which might fit your PBH well and it’s
> a little shorter in the TT  than the Atlantis which would/ might allow you
> you to ride drops; and a chainstay that’s in between the length of Atlantis
> and Hillborne and has a sloping TT which will allow you to get the bars up
> and has tire clearance between what the Atlantis and Hillborne will allow.
> I think the frames will be orange and mermaid ,  which are great colors.
> Take a look at the site or always give them a call. Every time I’ve called,
>  they love talkin bikes.-Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 8, 2021, at 3:23 PM, J S  wrote:
>
> Daniel, I bought an Atlantis last summer and sold it in a month or less.
> For me the long chain stays were not to my liking.  I was lucky to find a
> new Sam at a dealer before Riv got their last shipment in.  I really like
> the Sam Hillborne and run it with 48mm tires.  It rides and handles great.
> I use Choco bars and sit at about 50-60 degrees, so not bolt upright, and I
> hold the bars either on top of the break levers or further up maybe close
> to the hoods on a drop bar.  You should, if possible try to ride them, I
> was unable too before purchasing any of the Rivendells I have bought over
> the years.
>
> If there is a list member near you who has one  I bet they be happy to
> help you.
>
> Good luck
>
> Joel
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 8, 2021 at 11:07:24 AM UTC-4 daniel@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I'm glad I recently found this group, I am hoping you can help me out!
>>
>> I am planning on ordering a Rivendell frameset in the near future
>> (whenever they are in stock, I am patient). I am just having a hard time
>> deciding what might be right for me between the Sam Hillborne and the
>> Atlantis, mainly on the geometry.
>>
>> I would be using the bike for a half-hour commute on road / bike paths a
>> couple of times a week with panniers, and also for weekend rides of ~1-2
>> hours mostly on gravel roads. I want to build it up with drop bars and
>> something around ~45mm tyres.
>>
>> My PBH is 91cm and my previous drop bar bikes have had a ~60cm top tube.
>> I am tall enough that I have never owned a road bike that is capable of
>> getting the bars level with the saddle, even with a riser stem! My hope for
>> a Rivendell is to set it up with drop bars that can actually be level with
>> the saddle, and to have a bike that will be with me for life.
>>
>> I have always LOVED the look of the Atlantis, especially with the extra
>> rainbow top tube. The colour and the head badge are beautiful. For this
>> reason alone it would be my first choice, however… my concern is that in my
>> size (59 cm) the top tube length is 64cm which seems very long, like it
>> would be too long for drop bars. I get the feeling that maybe the “new”
>> Atlantis is more optimised for upright bars? Does anyone have recent
>> experience with drops on the Atlantis?
>>
>> Sam Hillborne is a beautiful looking frame too (in orange). The geometry
>> seems to be more “standard” and it would fit my needs nicely. However I’m a
>> little confused on size, the geometry charts on the Riv website lead me to
>> believe there is a 58cm which would be my size, or possibly a 62cm which is
>> the next size up. The text on the Sam Hillborne page suggests there is a
>> 60cm model as the biggest - have they recently updated the sizing and
>> geometry

[RBW] Seeking advice - Sam Hillborne vs Atlantis

[Daniel Searson]

Hi everyone,

I'm glad I recently found this group, I am hoping you can help me out!

I am planning on ordering a Rivendell frameset in the near future (whenever 
they are in stock, I am patient). I am just having a hard time deciding 
what might be right for me between the Sam Hillborne and the Atlantis, 
mainly on the geometry.

I would be using the bike for a half-hour commute on road / bike paths a 
couple of times a week with panniers, and also for weekend rides of ~1-2 
hours mostly on gravel roads. I want to build it up with drop bars and 
something around ~45mm tyres.

My PBH is 91cm and my previous drop bar bikes have had a ~60cm top tube. I 
am tall enough that I have never owned a road bike that is capable of 
getting the bars level with the saddle, even with a riser stem! My hope for 
a Rivendell is to set it up with drop bars that can actually be level with 
the saddle, and to have a bike that will be with me for life.

I have always LOVED the look of the Atlantis, especially with the extra 
rainbow top tube. The colour and the head badge are beautiful. For this 
reason alone it would be my first choice, however… my concern is that in my 
size (59 cm) the top tube length is 64cm which seems very long, like it 
would be too long for drop bars. I get the feeling that maybe the “new” 
Atlantis is more optimised for upright bars? Does anyone have recent 
experience with drops on the Atlantis?

Sam Hillborne is a beautiful looking frame too (in orange). The geometry 
seems to be more “standard” and it would fit my needs nicely. However I’m a 
little confused on size, the geometry charts on the Riv website lead me to 
believe there is a 58cm which would be my size, or possibly a 62cm which is 
the next size up. The text on the Sam Hillborne page suggests there is a 
60cm model as the biggest - have they recently updated the sizing and 
geometry? 

I think I really want the Atlantis but am hoping for reassurance on the 
fit. Any light you can shed on this would be great!
Thanks
Daniel 

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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Sackville Stickpack

[Daniel Rooke]

I posted this earlier this year but with an omission in the title that was 
confusing.  Thank you to those people who responded before with helpful 
suggestions.

I'd like to see if anyone has one of the Sackville Stickpacks that 
Rivendell made - maybe five years ago? - that they'd like to sell.  I don't 
have a fixed price in mind and am flexible on the condition.  

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[RBW] WTB: XL Gus Boots or Susie

[Daniel Jackson]

If there's a big one of these hillibikes out there that you or your buddy 
wants to part with, let me know. 

Open to either frame in any color, so long as it's an XL. 

Strongly prefer frame and fork over a full build. 

Thanks,
Daniel in Vermont

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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Sackville Stick

[Daniel Rooke]

If anyone has one of these they'd like to sell I'd be happy to buy it.  I 
know they're pretty obscure but maybe someone has one stashed away.  Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Friction 1x11

[Daniel MacPherson]

Good to hear. I'm currently setting up a bike with your same set-up. I've 
been rocking 10 speed friction for a year, so why not try 12 speed? 

On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 9:08:35 AM UTC-8 Adam Bowen wrote:

> I am currently running a friction 12speed set up with a microshift bar end 
> and GX Eagle derailer/cassette. I have been pleased with how well it works
>
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 11:28:54 AM UTC-5 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> Thank you Sam for this post. This is currently on my mind.
>> My friends insisted on a clutch derailer, and then, better than 
>> insisting, a friend gave me one (I reciprocated to make it a trade :)
>>
>> So I've been internally himming and hawing over what shifter to run on my 
>> Shimano 11 speed clutch derailer and Shimano 11-42, 11 speed casette.
>> One thing that came to mind is I'd like to have friction shifting an 
>> option if/when, for some reason, I can't correctly tune the indexed 
>> shifting with a barrel adjuster etc.
>> I think the barcon/bar-end option to switch between indexed and friction 
>> shifting is a really nice option and back-up plan.
>> I am also a little resistant to mountain bike trigger shifters, not for 
>> mechanical reasons, just...personal prefernce/bias.
>>
>> So I'm thinking I'll go with the Microshift 11 spd thumb shifter.
>> It looks like its the SL-M11 I want:
>> https://www.microshift.com/en/product/sl-m11/
>> I wish it had the bolt with the folding loop on top like the Shimanos to 
>> make it easier to switch between friction and indexed.
>>
>> I think I'm decided now, thanks, but also happy to hear more.
>>
>> -Matthew
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 9:24:00 PM UTC-8 Adam in Indiana wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve been using 1x11 for a while, in both friction and indexed.  I use 
>>> an appropriate Microshift lever with a Shimano SLX clutch derailleur, and 
>>> it works flawlessly.  I started it out as a bar-end, but now have it on a 
>>> hydraulic Gevenalle setup.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 10, 2021 at 1:24:37 AM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>>
 Any one have any experience with a friction 1x set up ? I'm really 
 curious, but was discouraged bc I've herd anything above an 8s suffers on 
 friction mode, is there a shifters that would be adequate and is the 
 shifting more fussy ?

 Thanks

>>>

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[RBW] Re: My new 26" wheeled drop bar Atlantis

[Daniel M]

Wow. I've been looking at my TRP levers and thinking they would be easy to 
modify to long pull by doing exactly what you've done. I've been perfectly 
happy with the Tektro RL 520, but the TRPs have a really nice shape so I 
think this may be the route I take with my MB-1 that has been converted to 
drop bars and is awaiting further conversion to V-brakes.

This is why I still read bike forums obsessively!

Daniel M
Berkeley, CA

On Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 9:20:34 AM UTC-8 David Person wrote:

> Followed your link to your Esty store.  Great patches.  Order a couple of 
> Bike Tinkers Union patches.
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 6:54:42 PM UTC-8 Philip Williamson wrote:
>
>>
>> I saw your lever hack and said, “O dude!” California born and bred here. 
>> That’s a great addition to the bike tinkering knowledge base. I’m pretty 
>> sure I’ll use that in the mid to near future. I’d be honored to send you a 
>> free Bike Tinkers Union patch and sticker set for that idea. 
>> Pick what you want, and let me know: 
>> https://www.etsy.com/shop/philipwilliamson
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA
>> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 9:02:28 AM UTC-8 dave_m...@yahoo.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am just about done putting this together and am really excited. I 
>>> purchased a 50cm frame from the garage sale section this summer. It is a 
>>> little smaller than what they would recommend for my 84 PBH, but given the 
>>> long top tube and my plan to use drop bars I felt pretty confident it would 
>>> work. I was attracted to the 26" wheeled Atlantis as such long running 
>>> model and I was interested in running the excellent 2.3" rat trap pass 
>>> tires. The other new thing I did was modify my TRP RRL levers to be used 
>>> with V-brakes. The strange shape of the lever allows an additional set of 
>>> holes to be drilled doubling the lever arm - it works great. I am still 
>>> experimenting with the stem lengths, but wanted to share my project.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Daniel M]

I have VP platforms on a number of bikes and like them for light use but would 
never again use them for touring. The bearings that VP use are of a lower 
quality than those used by MKS (I think it has to do with the outer being a 
bushing with a plastic sleeve or something). Either way, I've had VP bearings 
fail in the field, not quite catastrophically but really, really annoyingly, 
and I've read reports of people who really liked the large platform of the 
Catalyst pedal switch to something else because of bearing failure.

Whether it's the Sneaker Pedal or the Grip King or whatever it's called, you 
can feel instantly that MKS uses a higher quality bearing. I've settled on the 
platform pedals sold by Rene Herse: 

https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/pedals/mks-allways-pedals/

I don't mean to identify with a particular brand or bash another, but riding 
unsupported in Death Valley for days with a wobbling pedal is not something I 
wish to repeat.

Daniel M
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] What v-brakes for Susie?

[Daniel M]

Igor,

Not sure if you've seen this but if it were me, I'd get the longest arms I 
could find. Looks like 110mm is easy to find and there is one Tektro model at 
120mm:

https://www.gravelbike.com/v-brake-arm-lengths/

Daniel M
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[Daniel M]

Piling on in favor of your building your own wheel. I bought Jobst Brandt's 
book and read it cover to cover twice before building my own wheel. The first 
half of the book is theory, the second is practice. You could easily skip 
straight to the instructions, and if you follow them carefully you will end up 
with a properly laced and tensioned wheel. Only drawback is that Jobst doesn't 
reply to email anymore...

I've now built six wheels: 2 dyno, 3 Rohloff, and one fixed, so nothing with 
extreme dish. I have beaten the first four of those to hell off road, touring, 
and off-road touring. It's been a great experience. I did buy a used truing 
stand, dishing tool, tensiometer and spoke wrenches from a mechanic before I 
started, but I could just as easily do it in the frame of a bike with a guitar 
pick. Anything you build carefully is likely to be better than a factory-built 
wheel that hasn't been touched up by a professional, which people buy and ride 
all the time.

You won't regret it!

Daniel M
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: V-Brake and Canti...

[Daniel M]

I will also throw out there that finding a long-pull lever you can live with is 
a preferable solution than Travel Agents. I'd sooner go with a short-arm 
V-brake than use a Travel Agent, but there are significant benefits to 
long-pull brakes, both rim and mechanical disc, in that the cable is under less 
tension so the cable stretches less and the housing compresses less as a 
result. 

Daniel M
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] V-Brake and Canti...

[Daniel M]

Oh I see it's a Hillborne. My Hillborne had run-of-the-mill Deore V-brakes and 
it was one of the best braking bikes I've ever had.

DM

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Re: [RBW] V-Brake and Canti...

[Daniel M]

If you're getting shudder with a V-brake then I suspect you're just as likely, 
if not more, to get it with cantis, because as the fork flexes, the distance 
between the cable hanger and the brake itself changes, which leads to a 
feedback loop of exacerbated shudder. 

I'm a loudmouth V-brake evangelist, but if you've already gone to the trouble 
of a long-pull setup, I think you will find cantis a downgrade.

Do you have a particularly flexible fork, BTW?

Daniel M
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: New Riv cantilever brakes

[Daniel M]

I believe Grant is also working on a V-brake and I will certainly buy a set the 
moment they become available. 

Daniel M
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Bleriot

[Daniel]

Folks, the bike is pending/on hold/sold till I meet up with its new owner 
next Friday.

On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 9:26:24 AM UTC-7, Daniel wrote:
>
> I'm selling my 61cm Bleriot which is set up as a fast all arounder. It's a 
> beautiful bike and a lovely build. For my PBH (91cm), I have more than the 
> requisite fistful of seatpost, but the fit works for me. There are some 
> signs of wear on the frame, but not dents or areas I'm worried about. It's 
> interesting to note that the write up in RR37 makes mention of fitting 46mm 
> Golden Boy knobbies and recent experiments (not mine) have fit the 47mm 
> WTBs and 48mm Rene Herse tires.
>
> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yQMH6RsVTBWYidqu6
>
> Asking $1,500 complete (details below on build and a few discounts if you 
> forgo a few components) + actual shipping (via ShipBike, insured). Or no 
> shipping if we can meet in SoCal. I have a bike box and packing supplies on 
> hand, plus a good friend who's an expert bike packer that I can enlist for 
> help.
>
> Thank you for looking! 
>
> Daniel
> Yorba Linda, CA 
>
> Details:
>
> Frameset:
> 61cm Bleriot
> A few paint nicks, not dents
>
> Full geo:
> Seat tube: 61cm CTT / 59cm CTC
> Top tube: 59 CTC
> 67mm BB drop
> 2* TT upslope
> 85.1cm standover @ middle of TT (approx.)
> 72* STA
> 71* HTA
> 50mm rake - if you're playing along at home, that's 57mm of trail on 42mm 
> tires
> 44.5cm chainstays
>
> Cockpit:
> Nitto stem (measures 9.5cm CTC)
> Nitto 115 bars (measures 40cm CTC)
> Cane Creek SCR-5 aero brake levers with gum hoods
> Newbaums cloth tape with twine, shellaced
>
> Drivetrain:
> Suntour barcons
> Shimano Deore LX rear derailleur
> Shimano CS-HG40 11-32T 8 speed cassette...nearly NOS
> Nearly new chain
> Suntour Cyclone front derailleur
> Sugino AT 110/74 BCD triple crank (drilled for triple; set up as 48-36 
> double)
> IRD bottom bracket (which I know because I can see that through the hole 
> in the BB shell!)
> MKS Grip King/Lambda pedals
>
> Lounge:
> VO Grand Cru seatpost
> Brooks Swallow saddle - If you don't want it, I'll knock off $100 (these 
> are running $200ish new) and put a white Ritchey saddle on in its place.
>
> Wheels/Tires
> Handbuilt & nearly new
> Ambrosio rims
> Deore M525 hubs (large flanges for stronger wheels, also 6-bolt-disc 
> compatible…so this wheelset can do double duty on a QR-disc bike)
> Wheelsmith butted spokes
> Soma 'Grand Randonneur' tires. White, nearly new. (look great with the 
> cream headbadge. If you're willing to replace these for some all black 42mm 
> Panaracers, I'll knock off $60.)
>
> Braking:
> Cane Creek SCR-5 levers
> 'Silver' long reach (same/similar as Tektro R559) with KoolStop Salmon pads
>
> Accessories:
> Velo Orange porteur rack with rail included. If you don't want the rack, 
> I'll knock off $100 since these are running $165 new. For non-local (SoCal) 
> buyers, I'd prefer to sell without the rack due to the rack width and the 
> box dimensions. I guess I could pull the rack of and ship that in a 2nd 
> box, but I don't think I have a box on hand that the rack will fit.
>
> Not included:
> Water bottle cages
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Bleriot

[Daniel]

82.5cm

On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 9:50:25 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel, 
>
> Out of curiosity, what is the saddle height in your pictures? 61cm is 
> probably too small for me but as a former aviation buff the idea of a 
> airplane-themed Rivendell has always intrigued me. I do run my saddle on 
> the low side for my height so I'm wondering if I could make it work.  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeremy Till
> Sacramento, CA 
>
> On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 9:26:24 AM UTC-7 Daniel wrote:
>
>> I'm selling my 61cm Bleriot which is set up as a fast all arounder. It's 
>> a beautiful bike and a lovely build. For my PBH (91cm), I have more than 
>> the requisite fistful of seatpost, but the fit works for me. There are some 
>> signs of wear on the frame, but not dents or areas I'm worried about. It's 
>> interesting to note that the write up in RR37 makes mention of fitting 46mm 
>> Golden Boy knobbies and recent experiments (not mine) have fit the 47mm 
>> WTBs and 48mm Rene Herse tires.
>>
>> Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yQMH6RsVTBWYidqu6
>>
>> Asking $1,500 complete (details below on build and a few discounts if you 
>> forgo a few components) + actual shipping (via ShipBike, insured). Or no 
>> shipping if we can meet in SoCal. I have a bike box and packing supplies on 
>> hand, plus a good friend who's an expert bike packer that I can enlist for 
>> help.
>>
>> Thank you for looking! 
>>
>> Daniel
>> Yorba Linda, CA 
>>
>> Details:
>>
>> Frameset:
>> 61cm Bleriot
>> A few paint nicks, not dents
>>
>> Full geo:
>> Seat tube: 61cm CTT / 59cm CTC
>> Top tube: 59 CTC
>> 67mm BB drop
>> 2* TT upslope
>> 85.1cm standover @ middle of TT (approx.)
>> 72* STA
>> 71* HTA
>> 50mm rake - if you're playing along at home, that's 57mm of trail on 42mm 
>> tires
>> 44.5cm chainstays
>>
>> Cockpit:
>> Nitto stem (measures 9.5cm CTC)
>> Nitto 115 bars (measures 40cm CTC)
>> Cane Creek SCR-5 aero brake levers with gum hoods
>> Newbaums cloth tape with twine, shellaced
>>
>> Drivetrain:
>> Suntour barcons
>> Shimano Deore LX rear derailleur
>> Shimano CS-HG40 11-32T 8 speed cassette...nearly NOS
>> Nearly new chain
>> Suntour Cyclone front derailleur
>> Sugino AT 110/74 BCD triple crank (drilled for triple; set up as 48-36 
>> double)
>> IRD bottom bracket (which I know because I can see that through the hole 
>> in the BB shell!)
>> MKS Grip King/Lambda pedals
>>
>> Lounge:
>> VO Grand Cru seatpost
>> Brooks Swallow saddle - If you don't want it, I'll knock off $100 (these 
>> are running $200ish new) and put a white Ritchey saddle on in its place.
>>
>> Wheels/Tires
>> Handbuilt & nearly new
>> Ambrosio rims
>> Deore M525 hubs (large flanges for stronger wheels, also 6-bolt-disc 
>> compatible…so this wheelset can do double duty on a QR-disc bike)
>> Wheelsmith butted spokes
>> Soma 'Grand Randonneur' tires. White, nearly new. (look great with the 
>> cream headbadge. If you're willing to replace these for some all black 42mm 
>> Panaracers, I'll knock off $60.)
>>
>> Braking:
>> Cane Creek SCR-5 levers
>> 'Silver' long reach (same/similar as Tektro R559) with KoolStop Salmon 
>> pads
>>
>> Accessories:
>> Velo Orange porteur rack with rail included. If you don't want the rack, 
>> I'll knock off $100 since these are running $165 new. For non-local (SoCal) 
>> buyers, I'd prefer to sell without the rack due to the rack width and the 
>> box dimensions. I guess I could pull the rack of and ship that in a 2nd 
>> box, but I don't think I have a box on hand that the rack will fit.
>>
>> Not included:
>> Water bottle cages
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: 61cm Bleriot

[Daniel]

I'm selling my 61cm Bleriot which is set up as a fast all arounder. It's a 
beautiful bike and a lovely build. For my PBH (91cm), I have more than the 
requisite fistful of seatpost, but the fit works for me. There are some 
signs of wear on the frame, but not dents or areas I'm worried about. It's 
interesting to note that the write up in RR37 makes mention of fitting 46mm 
Golden Boy knobbies and recent experiments (not mine) have fit the 47mm 
WTBs and 48mm Rene Herse tires.

Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yQMH6RsVTBWYidqu6

Asking $1,500 complete (details below on build and a few discounts if you 
forgo a few components) + actual shipping (via ShipBike, insured). Or no 
shipping if we can meet in SoCal. I have a bike box and packing supplies on 
hand, plus a good friend who's an expert bike packer that I can enlist for 
help.

Thank you for looking! 

Daniel
Yorba Linda, CA 

Details:

Frameset:
61cm Bleriot
A few paint nicks, not dents

Full geo:
Seat tube: 61cm CTT / 59cm CTC
Top tube: 59 CTC
67mm BB drop
2* TT upslope
85.1cm standover @ middle of TT (approx.)
72* STA
71* HTA
50mm rake - if you're playing along at home, that's 57mm of trail on 42mm 
tires
44.5cm chainstays

Cockpit:
Nitto stem (measures 9.5cm CTC)
Nitto 115 bars (measures 40cm CTC)
Cane Creek SCR-5 aero brake levers with gum hoods
Newbaums cloth tape with twine, shellaced

Drivetrain:
Suntour barcons
Shimano Deore LX rear derailleur
Shimano CS-HG40 11-32T 8 speed cassette...nearly NOS
Nearly new chain
Suntour Cyclone front derailleur
Sugino AT 110/74 BCD triple crank (drilled for triple; set up as 48-36 
double)
IRD bottom bracket (which I know because I can see that through the hole in 
the BB shell!)
MKS Grip King/Lambda pedals

Lounge:
VO Grand Cru seatpost
Brooks Swallow saddle - If you don't want it, I'll knock off $100 (these 
are running $200ish new) and put a white Ritchey saddle on in its place.

Wheels/Tires
Handbuilt & nearly new
Ambrosio rims
Deore M525 hubs (large flanges for stronger wheels, also 6-bolt-disc 
compatible…so this wheelset can do double duty on a QR-disc bike)
Wheelsmith butted spokes
Soma 'Grand Randonneur' tires. White, nearly new. (look great with the 
cream headbadge. If you're willing to replace these for some all black 42mm 
Panaracers, I'll knock off $60.)

Braking:
Cane Creek SCR-5 levers
'Silver' long reach (same/similar as Tektro R559) with KoolStop Salmon pads

Accessories:
Velo Orange porteur rack with rail included. If you don't want the rack, 
I'll knock off $100 since these are running $165 new. For non-local (SoCal) 
buyers, I'd prefer to sell without the rack due to the rack width and the 
box dimensions. I guess I could pull the rack of and ship that in a 2nd 
box, but I don't think I have a box on hand that the rack will fit.

Not included:
Water bottle cages

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[RBW] Pass and Stow Rack for sale

[Daniel Rooke]

Hello,

I have an unused black five rail pass and stow rack I need to sell. Here is a 
link to the description: https://www.passandstowracks.com/shop/passandstowrack
Asking $275 shipping included.  
Please ask any questions. 
Thanks,
Daniel

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[RBW] Re: Going from Sam (60cm to New Atlantis (59cm) - asking the unaskable: how will the New Atlantis feel?

[Daniel Betancourt]

I have a 61 Sam and ordered a 62 Atlantis two weeks ago. I am curious on 
the ride differences as well. My buddy that owns an Atlantis swears by the 
bike and I am building out the bike in a similar fashion as the Sam except 
for 700/36 XT/Atlas wheels by Rich and a quill stem mount shifter to try 
out something different than bar end shifters. I'm looking forward to 
having a mirror hanging off the end of my bar.

Dan

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 9:41:29 PM UTC-4, JP wrote:
>
>
> (As I mentioned previously i thought i "needed" a new bike but don't.  
> However, it was too late I wanted a new bike.)
>
> I had always planned on getting a 63 MUSA Homer, but I just bought a New 
> Atlantis frame based on the following logic:
>
> 1. The best bike i've ridden has been the my dads Homer 63 cm Toyo.  
> 2. I've loved my Sam but i always like how the Homer was bigger (and it 
> felt longer).  The new bikes in the running (New Homer, New Atlantis and 
> Appaloosa) are all even longer than the 63cm Homer
> 3. Shell ridge is very close to where i live and i would be interested in 
> riding there.
> 4. Even if I was going to get the New Homer, it's sold out in my size.
> 4. Will @ RBW said an Appaloosa with Homer sized tires will feel more like 
> a "Homer" than a Homer with big tires would.
> 5. Appaloosa is also sold out.
> 6. New Atlantis even longer and sturdier 
>
> I'm possibly going to cannibalize the Sam and then sell the frame, the 
> silver sidepull brakes, and possibly the crank if RBW can't help me get a 
> 1-1 ratio out the small ring.  Or sell to family member.
>
> My brother has a 62 hunq and it doesn't feel a little heavier to ride than 
> the homer, but not dramatically so.  I've read the "weight thread" and I 
> still don't feel like i know the answer and so i thought it would ask 
>
> *Is the New Atlantis going to fill "heavy" compared to a Sam or Homer?*
>
> JP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS/FT: Shimano, Acorn, Rock Shox, Campy, Rapid Rise!

[Daniel]

I hope you’re all well. Among other projects during quarantine, I’ve taken 
this time to clean out the spare parts bins “a bit." (This is not 
everything...DOH!). I posted this to iBOB earlier in the week, so if you've 
seen it there, it's unchanged except for minor edits (mostly removing sold 
items). As a Bleriot owner, I figured I should post to this list, too. :-)

Everything is in this album (https://photos.app.goo.gl/hGrXPEvfLstQFhB48) 
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/hGrXPEvfLstQFhB48>, but I tried to make a 
separate album for most items to help avoid confusion.

Prices below are before shipping, unless otherwise noted. I tried to price 
these fairly but I also a little willy nilly about it, so if I'm off base, 
make me an offer!

For the most part, I'd like to ship with USPS Flat Rate because it's 
insured and trackable. I have boxes on hand for that. But I also have other 
boxes on hand and am happy to use those as needed. Or socially-distanced, 
masked pickup is OK for the locals in Orange County, CA.

Trade-wise, I could use some supple tires with tan sidewalls in 700c x 
32mm, 700C x 35mm, 650B x 38mm, 650B x 42mm. Non-bike related items of 
trade interest for me are a microKORG, guitar pedals, Lollar Dirty Blonde 
pickups, Strat baseball neck and a nicer manual coffee grinder.

Thanks!
Daniel
Yorba Linda, CA, USA

And onto the list:

> Bags for the bag matchers
>
> Acorn rando bag & saddlebag (sold as a package): Very nice condition. 
> Brown. Sell for $205 (rando) + $25 (saddle bag) + tax and shipping and 
> still hard to get all these years later. $195 shipped…and I can ship 
> other small parts with these for free.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/bt2kjQGY8tZcnfoK9
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Forks
>
> Rock Shox SID 100 for 26”: 1 1/8 straight steerer, 26” (will also fit 48mm 
> 650B), canti posts (for 26”), and disc tabs. One of the weight weenie 
> squish forks. I went rigid and haven’t looked back. $200 shipped
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/TZqZ9QmbJVFjkAho6
>
>  
>
> Cima Grappa 700C CX fork: steel with 1” threadless steerer, ~44mm offset 
> (measured—but hard to do—labeled 37mm), 245mm steerer, 376mm A-C (labeled), 
> star nut installed, Columbus blades, 51mm between fork crown, canti posts, 
> dark green pain from Fresh Frames. $125 shipped
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/owVf7arLeCJZXipB9
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Bottom Bracket
>
> Campy. Loose bearings in cage. 111mm spindle. Still has the white grease 
> on them. From my old Paramount. Not a Ti spindle. $40
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/iMjt7jQaZ4X1ks3R8
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Brake Calipers
>
> Dia Compe 400. $30
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/tckHbaqoLXN8fFmt8
>
>  
>
> Shimano Ultegra 6600 $50
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/QmZirZTy3VmtasvH9
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Brake Levers
>
> Dura Ace 7400 Aero Brake Levers: levers have some scratches, no hoods. $25
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/vwptzXpF4jB3AR5t6
>
>  
>
> Sunline 1 handed/2fer brake lever: new in package, tandeming isn’t for my 
> family. $10
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/bZYJrqWNshhytKvL6
>
>  
>
> Campy Athena Brifter (front) from the 8s era. $20
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/JfdLfGeCqeihdBhW6
>
>  
>
> Shimano Deerhead 4 finger moto levers: From OG Stumpjumpers. 1 pair is 
> pretty gosh darn clean ($25), the other is a lit bit more worn ($15)
>
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KYcSczQnmJgX2u2C6
>
 
>
> Tektro brake lever…the kind that was popular with the fixie kids. $10
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zA6UXL5PucMQoq4v7
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Chainring
>
> TA Cyclotouriste 80BCD (inner) 40T. New, in pouch. $35
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/dCz2sEfmXkzd8tX26
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Cranks
>
> Sugino Super Maxy 50.4 BCD Tandem Cranks. 170mm/170mm lengths. 52-46-32. 
> $220
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/W6eX7biutnWYrLid9
>
>  
>
> Stronglight 49D. 170mm. Drive side arm only. Inner side of spider is 
> scratched. $25
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/YZCEQuHQJ7wmWJX77
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Derailleurs (rear)
>
> Shimano XTR M951 #2.The Rapid Rise spring is still really strong. Body has 
> scratches $45
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Y5yoUKL4MnNQgcpy8
>
>  
>
> Shimano XTR M951. #3 Pulleys are shark-finny. The Rapid Rise spring is 
> still really strong. $38
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Ywu1QxQMxMKs9ngL6 
>
>  
>
> Shimano XT RD-M772. $25
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/bdjXfmsJaZoPeS3X7
>
>  
>
> Suntour Cyclone mk1. Used. $45
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ypnxSXc8MrJHXZP49
>
>  
>
> Suntour Sprint.  $40
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/2e25jTCztw86vFiaA
>
>  
>
>  
>
&g

[RBW] Re: Have an idea for my stash of unused camera film

[Daniel D.]

My shipping envelopes are due to arrive in may!  then i'll get em out to 
y'all.


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[RBW] Pedal Strikes when Turning

[Daniel M]

I had an early orange Waterford canti-braked single top tube Hillborne in the 
early 2010s. The tradeoff of the stable high-speed handling was that the bike 
needed to be leaned really far to make a quick tight turn. The combination of 
this, the low bottom bracket, and my love of pedaling through turns meant I got 
A LOT of pedal strike. The most of any bike I've owned. And this was with 
either 165 or 167.5mm cranks (can't remember which).

This is not to disparage the bike at all, rather to simply state that my 
example was not a good candidate for pedaling through tight turns.

Daniel M
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] Re: In Praise of the Roadini

[Daniel D.]

That's what I told a lady espousing you're only supposed to walk for exercise 
not ride your bike.  Besides explaining biking is allowed.  I also shared my 
theory of biking being better...  

People are bad at self distancing.  I still see some congregated at crosswalks 
or entranceways etc.  Because that's their usual habit.  But they're not used 
to walking up to a bicyclist in the road :p

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[RBW] Re: Have an idea for my stash of unused camera film

[Daniel D.]

working on it guys sorry for delay.

On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 1:49:28 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote:
>
> Awhile back because of Grant etc.  Thought about getting into film 
> cameras.  Grabbed a deal on b/w film .  Wary of hobby creep and expense of 
> developing i shelved the idea.  But still have the film in my fridge, 
> expired date last year.  Someone's covid camera sale reminded me about that 
> film.  
>
> Came up with an idea for my stash of film. Send film out to people on here 
> and maybe ibob.  Request in return, AT LEAST one photo from the pictures 
> you take using the film. What do you guys think of my idea? If i decide to 
> do it I'll start a new thread (s)
>

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[RBW] WTB 47.5 Roadini (or similar)

[Daniel Jackson]

In search of a small Rivendell for saddle height of 67cm. A 47.5 Roadini or 
similar would be swell. 

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Have an idea for my stash of unused camera film

[Daniel D.]

I'll get them out next week.  I would like at least one physical photograph 
mailed back, please.  :>)

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Re: [RBW] Have an idea for my stash of unused camera film

[Daniel D.]

PM your address guys I'll get it out to you. 

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[RBW] Have an idea for my stash of unused camera film

[Daniel D.]

Awhile back because of Grant etc.  Thought about getting into film cameras.  
Grabbed a deal on b/w film .  Wary of hobby creep and expense of developing i 
shelved the idea.  But still have the film in my fridge, expired date last 
year.  Someone's covid camera sale reminded me about that film.  

Came up with an idea for my stash of film. Send film out to people on here and 
maybe ibob.  Request in return, AT LEAST one photo from the pictures you take 
using the film. What do you guys think of my idea? If i decide to do it I'll 
start a new thread (s)

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[RBW] Homer x Rene Herse

[Daniel Jackson]

To those who’ve tried: will my Waterford Homer clear Snoqualmie Pass or 
Hurricane Ridge RH tires?

Thanks,
D. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

[Daniel D.]

A spokesperson for Newsom later told Politico that the 56 percent number 
reflects the infection rate if "mitigation efforts aren't taken into account."
https://m.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/california-coronavirus-numbers-newsom-trump-15144169.php
On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 8:11:29 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
> In California - we were already under the Shelter In Place this week in Marin 
> County - it means you can walk and bike alone, and drive to get groceries, 
> gas, takeout food. I've been out there and there's a few cars and bikes 
> around, but it's unusually quiet. What you don't want to do is get caught in 
> packs of people, they'll give you a ticket for that.
> 
> Now for the super bad part (like the dystopia I just described wasn't 
> enough): Gov. Newsom's letter to the president says the state projects 56% of 
> residents will have the virus in 8 weeks. That's 25.5 Million people. If you 
> assume a mortality rate of 2%, which right now is a low estimate, that's 
> 610k. In one state.

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