[RBW] Re: Who likes the original Atlantis?

[George Millwood]

I have 64cm Mark 1 frame (no 93), it is my favourite bike.  I will never 
sell it

On Sunday, 1 August 2021 at 05:51:26 UTC+10 dougP wrote:

> Elisabeth:
>
> My wife has 47cm Atlantis & with 1.5" tires it has around 1/2" clearance 
> between the top of the tire & the bottom of the fork.  It's an early 
> production one & has the 44cm chainstays.  She doesn't have fenders but it 
> looks like they would fit.  She's just under 5'2" tall, rides with drop 
> bars, a 6 or 7 cm stem, & a bar riser adapter.  Absolutely loves the bike.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 2:30:55 AM UTC-7 Elisabeth Sherwood wrote:
>
>> Would absolutely be in for that -- with the original geometry, please, 
>> including a size that will actually work (with drop-bar set-up) for someone 
>> between 5'0" and 5'2"!   (But, in this round, room in the fork for the 47cm 
>> frame to include a fender!)
>>
>> -- Liz
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 30, 2021 at 9:31:39 PM UTC+2 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> The first Riv I ever saw was an Atlantis on the BART when I was living 
>>> in Berkeley in the late 2000s. Didn't know what it was at the time, but I 
>>> thought, that looks cool! Had a Sam, now a Joe, but I always loved that 
>>> original Atlantis. Not the current one with the bow-flex second tube in my 
>>> size.
>>> I think Rivendell should do a run of the original(ish) Atlantis, with 
>>> some of these aspects from those first runs:
>>>
>>>1. The color (of course)
>>>2. Single top tube (doubles aren't for everyone)
>>>3. 26' wheels in small sizes, 700c in the bigger ones (I'd be cool 
>>>with 26' in all sizes)
>>>4. 45mm chainstays (maybe a hair smaller in the smaller sizes, a 
>>>hair bigger in the large sizes)
>>>5. Clearance for 2in tires with fenders
>>>
>>> Who else would sign up for one?
>>> What other aspects would you like?
>>>
>>> Hankering for an Atlantis (61 or 64cm if you have one) in Nashville,
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Tires and seat posts more important for comfort than frame material?

[George Millwood]

I bought an aluminium Cannondale Touring bike back in '98.  It was an 
ST1000 from memeory. I found it uncomfortable.  So I changed the seat, the 
stem (two or three times), the handlebars (three or four times)  , the seat 
post, the pedals, the tyres, added mudguards (fenders), mudflaps and 
finally, I swapped the frame out for an Atlantis.  Then, it was 
comfortable.  Now the steel may be the least consideration in the comfort 
factor and the design and sizing of the Atlantis may have been a bigger 
factor but it was a long road to comfort.  I'm with Andy, there are a lot 
more factors that make up comfort and comfort can only be measured by the 
rider.  

On Sunday, 23 August 2020 at 22:47:43 UTC+10 ascpgh wrote:

> If you narrow from a complicated system a single variable and measure it 
> with a selection of test items, you'll get data. Yes, a rigid frame's seat 
> post, saddle, wheel components and tires will contribute more to "comfort" 
> if you say vertical compliance equals comfort. What about lateral 
> compliance? Am I a loser or a non-cyclist because I value that? 
>
> The premise that aluminum frames are generally maligned as "uncomfortable" 
> may be true, but vertical compliance is but a single variable found in 
> complete bikes. If everything is harmonious, many factors will contribute 
> to that measures feature. 
>
> When I see a bike frame in a jig I hope it's for alignment, repair or 
> construction because if it's for testing to imply general conclusions about 
> bikes  (which have wheels, tires, crank arms, stems, handlebars and seats 
> in addition to seat posts), I cringe because of all the previous incarnate 
> machines' testing which purportedly sort out the entire how and with what 
> you build bikes question once and for all. 
>
> The reason we all spend time riding bikes, optimizing them, talking about 
> them and enjoying riding them as well as the experiences and discoveries of 
> others like us is that they are such simple appearing yet complex things 
> that easily elude jigged frame analysis. The variables of a bike and their 
> hierarchy of importance depends on the individual rider and we all know 
> there is a vast spectrum of those. That is the first generalization I take 
> offensively whenever analysis occurs. The assumption that every rider needs 
> "X" then leads to isolating what varies "X" and pacing examples on a scale 
> from good to bad. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Wednesday, August 19, 2020 at 10:06:46 PM UTC-4 tc wrote:
>
>> Well-presented study of what affects comfort:
>> https://youtu.be/Lb4ktAbmr_4
>>
>> Tom
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Cheap fenders killed my bike.

[George Millwood]

Sorry to hear about your accident, but so happy that you weren't injured.  
The framebuilder I was going to recommend is Ewen Gellie but he no longer 
does frame repairs.  However for lugged frames and brazing repairs, he does 
recommend: -

Gordon Hill in Croydon, Victoria
https://www.gordonhillbikeframes.com/

or

Geoff Duke in Northcote, Victoria
https://gdukehandmadebicycles.com.au/

I know they're both on the other side but that has to be cheaper than 
overseas.


George Millwood
Wollongong, NSW where the last local builder now makes bespoke expresso 
machines!

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On Tuesday, 30 June 2020 19:23:00 UTC+10, brendonoid wrote:
>
> Hey guys, I just wanted to let everyone know the obviously stupid thing 
> that I did even though I knew it was stupid has ruined my bike. Maybe this 
> will help others as a warning or something... ?
> I've been running some cheap plastic fenders SOMA somethingorothers that 
> did not have those plastic easy break stay connecters that most common 
> sense fenders have. I knew this was a hazard but had ridden many 1000s of 
> kilometres on them and had just sort of forgotten about it. 
> It gets worse; I attached my Nitto Big Front rack (34f)? to do an 
> overnighter on a nice trail while i was on holiday squeezing the adventure 
> inbetween some bad weather and storms. On the second day, 80kms from the 
> next town as I crested the hill...through a lot of debris and broken 
> branches... doing ~15kmh (not exceeding 20kmh) my bike suddenly came to a 
> stop. Just a firm enough stop to lift the back end up a little bit and make 
> me have to put my feet down suddenly.
> The fender stays had lodged themselves into the fork along with the thick 
> piece of bark that had caused the accident.
> "No worries! these cheap fenders finally failed!" I thought, "my stupid 
> fault. Oh well, lucky I was going slow!' 
> As I disentangled the mess, removing the front wheel, "Oh no, the fork is 
> bent" I realised. "It's okay, the wheel isn't hitting the downtube I can 
> still ride out of here... why has the head badged popped out funny though?"
> Oh, the headtube is shaped like a banana...
> Welp.
> I could have been doing 40km/h down hill and i could have died as well as 
> killing my bike. This is what I am trying to commisserate myself with. It 
> barely helps.
> I live in Western Australia. There are no local frame builders I know of 
> or would trust to try and repair this frame. Shipping the bike back to 
> Rivendell is going to be an expensive excercise and in these COVID times 
> I'm not sure they can do anything anyway. I really just don't know what I 
> am going to do.
> The accident was so minor and I have bent forks before. The problem here 
> and the reason it has been so catastrophic is because the Big Strong Nitto 
> rack reinforced the fork removing tis failure mode of being able to bend, 
> that force was translated into the headtube as the fork actually bent where 
> the steerer is welded into the crown lug translating that force into the 
> headtube.
> I can post pictures if anyone is interested. The frame is weirdly straight 
> and I cannot find any distortion in the maintubes despite the obvious bend 
> in the head tube. The headset cups are only out of alignment to the point 
> that a sealed bearing headset can absorb the variance and seemingly work 
> ok. 
> The bend has to have gone somewhere though and I'm not sure that if I got 
> a new fork that I could feel safe riding the frame as is...
> I really just needed to vent,
> Thanks for listening, (reading I guess)
> Brendon M.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Tool for fender stays

[George Millwood]

Thanks, just what I need and the same brand as my wife's favourite 
secateurs!

On Wednesday, 29 April 2020 12:05:30 UTC+10, Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>
> I would recommend a Felco C7 cutter. Expensive, yes. Lifetime purchase: 
> great for cutting brake and derailleur cables, housing, spokes

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[RBW] Re: Finding out how a Bike's Performance Changes with Changes to Components

[George Millwood]

I purchased a Cannondale touring bike some twenty years ago.  I was 
dissatisfied with the set up of the bike and resorted to Rivendell to 
change the bars, seat post and saddle.  After a lilltle while, I swapped 
out the stem, another set of bars, the bell and bought some pretty bottle 
cages.   Things were quiet for a couple of years until I bit the bullet and 
bought an Atlantis frame (no 93).  Of course, things couldn't stand still 
after that so I acquired another handlebar, stem, plastic fenders and a new 
set of wheels.  I moved to Wollongong, a coastal rust belt city with 
stunning beaches.  I changed the bars, the stem, the saddle, installed 
stainless steel fenders and bought a set of Paul's thumbies with Silver 
shifters.  Other bikes intervened and, on return, I was dissatisfied so I 
swapped the handlebars back, swapped the silver shifters for shimano, 
replaced the crank, installed custom rings and a lovely long cage 
derailleur.  

When I can't sleep at night, I cruise Pauls website and think about 
swapping the brakes out.

This doesn't include consumables like handlebar wrap, handlebar grips, 
cables, chain, brake pads, leather seat goo, chain cleaner, chain lube, 
bike cleaner, tyres and tubes.

So over a twenty year period I have coughed up about fifteen to twenty 
gorillas in Constant Dollar Values.  Take the worst case and calculate on a 
gorilla a year which I consider a pittance compared to the joy of cresting 
a hill to see the sun rising from the ocean or scattering the firetails and 
blue wrens when i cut through Puckey's Reserve or standing abashed when 
some bright young thing in a negligible bikini gushes over that beautiful 
bicycle.

Next year I'm off to a major bicycle event in Sydney where they have a swap 
meet and I believe that I will have to take a double table.

I have four bikes and am considering a fifth.  The fourth is a custom as 
will be the fifth but evenso I have plans to swap out the saddle.

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[RBW] Re: Thank you and "Enjoy the Ride!"

[George Millwood]

Fare thee well, Patrick, it has been a pleasure.

On Wednesday, 14 September 2016 09:04:44 UTC+10, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I’m going to be riding off a different direction. Thank you all on this 
> group — you have helped me tremendously as I’ve dived into wrenching and 
> fine tuning the my rides. I am grateful for all you’ve given me. May God 
> startle you with joy!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.OurHolyConception.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem for my husband

[George Millwood]

Thanks for the story Leah, it gives all of us with recalcitrant spouses 
hope for the future!
 

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Re: [RBW] Racer loves Rivendell

[George Millwood]

The Dutch love bike racing but the country is awash with normal bikes.  I 
have friends who live in Hilversum, a village outside of Amsterdam, and it 
is a real education to sit at a cafe in the shopping centre there and watch 
the horde of people turn up on normal bicycles to shop at the supermarket, 
go to the chemist, get a snack all on bicycles.

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[RBW] Re: Racer loves Rivendell

[George Millwood]

I love watching the BORAF.  Here in Oz, I have to sit up to 02:00 to watch 
the live broadcast on free to air.The scenery is fabulous, the photography 
is stunning and the peleton is a riot of colour and movement.  What's not 
to like?  This year there seemed to be some human frailty in the riders and 
a genuine contest but I was really watching for the aerial shots of twenty 
one (21) corner switchbacks.  We also get a chef doing an insert on the 
gastronomic specialities of the region they are visiting that night/day and 
the commentary gives the lowdown on the Chateaux and villages the route 
passes. 


 

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[RBW] Re: First trip to riv

[George Millwood]

Thanks, I'll polish up the credit card

On Thursday, 11 June 2015 13:17:22 UTC+10, dougP wrote:

 George:

 Google to see on a map but RBWHQ is at 2040 N. Main St. and BBH is at 
 1061 N. Main St, both in Walnut Creek.  Really close to each other but 
 entirely different neighborhood vibes.  BBH is in a retail, small shop 
 area, while 4 blocks away gets sorta industrial.  You have to hunt for HQ 
 because it's buried behind IIRC a rental car place or something like that.  
 It's an easy walk from the Walnut Creek BART station but you have figure it 
 out.  

 dougP

 On Wednesday, June 10, 2015 at 7:29:59 PM UTC-7, George Millwood wrote:

 Thank you, this has made my day.  I'm not looking forward to Las Vegas so 
 this will be my antidote.  One further question, where is the second shop?

 Regards

 George Millwood

 On Thursday, 11 June 2015 10:23:16 UTC+10, drew wrote:

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[RBW] Re: First trip to riv

[George Millwood]

Excuse my abject ignorance but do you mean to say Rivendell operates a 
bicycle shop in Walnut Creek?  A shop where i can just drop in and shop to 
my hearts content?  I'm from Australia and stopping over in San Francisco 
on my way to a Parking Conference in Las Vegas in a couple of weeks.  I 
didn't know they operated a shop.  That'll be the best part of a day well 
spent.  I too have been an internet customer since '94 when i bought my 
first Brooks.

George Millwood
Wollongong Australia
Atlantis No 93 

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[RBW] Re: First trip to riv

[George Millwood]

Thank you, this has made my day.  I'm not looking forward to Las Vegas so 
this will be my antidote.  One further question, where is the second shop?

Regards

George Millwood

On Thursday, 11 June 2015 10:23:16 UTC+10, drew wrote:

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[RBW] Re: Rivs and Disc Brakes

[George Millwood]

A disc brake will 'twist' the fork under heavy braking as the braking force 
is not symmetrical with the centre of the hub.  Hence the Jones bike uses a 
truss fork.  I cannot see any advantages for Rivendell in using disc brakes 
as it would invalidate a well worked and respected design philosophy.

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[RBW] Re: QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!

[George Millwood]

Ah Patrick, after a day dealing with customers who must have been 
practising do it yourself brain surgery, I take out my bike and attack a 
hill.  i put every last ounce of exertion left in my 68yo body into 
conquering a couple of small hills on the coast here in Wollongong and I 
work up some speed on the cycle(psycho)path alongside the University and i 
come home dripping with sweat and feeling at peace with the world.

After dinner, I catch the seven o'clock news and look at some poor raving 
nutter and think there but for the grace of a bicycle go I.

George Millwood
Atlantis No 93
Wollongong NSW Australia




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[RBW] Re: Better with Bacon? Fat-Filled Reporting in the Sacramento Bee

[George Millwood]

 Bacon Butty (sandwich)

 
Heat 1 tbsp. butter in a 10 skillet over medium heat. Add 6 or more slices 
of back bacon and cook, turning once, until browned and crispy, about 3 
minutes. Remove bacon from skillet and keep covered on a warmed plate. 
 Halve some turkish bread, round bun, sourdough bun.  Whatever takes your 
fancy.  Traditionally it's a couple of inch thick slices of crusty white 
bread.  Fry the bread/roll in the bacon grease/butter in the skillet.  When 
all the grease has been absorbed and before the bread starts to brown, 
remove from skillet.  Place bacon on bottom half/slice, cover liberally 
with HP Sauce between layers. Cover with top half/slice.  Eat.  Repeat 
process.  Wash it down with a large mug of Taylors of Harrington's Kwazulu 
Tea with full cream milk.  Now wheel you bike out of the hall and into a 
frosty morning with the certainty of misty rain and the promise of sleet. 
 Now you know why they invented the Bacon Butty.  In a climate this 
miserrable you need a couple of bacon butties to face the hills.

On Saturday, 24 January 2015 04:37:14 UTC+11, Eric Norris wrote:

 Perhaps of interest to the group:

 http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/article7968627.html 

 —Eric N
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[RBW] Re: What tires do you use for trail riding?

[George Millwood]

 but I can't leave well enough alone


That just about sums up half my existence.  it resonates within me. 

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[RBW] Re: Best wishes to all for the new year

[George Millwood]

With you on this one, Patrick.  I'm about to set out on a fine and sunny 
day (84*F) on my Rivved Specialised Shark Sport beach cruiser to cruise up 
and down the beaches of the Illawarra.  

Happy New Year to everyone and thanks for the blog.  it often lifts my 
spirits on a grey day.  

George Millwood  
Wollongong Australia
Atlantis No 93


  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform/Spiked pedals question (gripsters, grip kings, etc.)

[George Millwood]

I have a set of MacNeil gripster style BMX pedals on my beach cruiser which 
is an old Specialise Shark Sport.  I ride in the morning on a trip that 
takes me down to the stadium, back to the lighthouse, around the fishing 
wharf, along the waterfront, onto the dirt path through the nature reserve 
and up the bike path to the Bellambi Rock Pool and back.  You can google 
map it at Wollongong, Australia.  Then eat your heart out cos this is 
living in god's pocket.
 
This trip has everything.  Smooth asphalt and concrete, rotten asphalt, 
well made crushed red gravel, poor sand and some ups and downs.  These 
pedals are magnificent.  My feet never move and i can lift and reposition 
my feet to get a different set of muscles working for this bit or that 
hill.  Why BMX?  Dunno, Ross, my mechanic, fitted them and (blush) I liked 
them cos they colour matched my front hub and Brooks Select.  Now all I 
need is a black and tan bag to match the overall colour scheme.  I'm using 
a Carradice green and tan but the green jars.

George Millwood
Wollongong, Australia 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform/Spiked pedals question (gripsters, grip kings, etc.)

[George Millwood]

Forgot to say that i wear Keen sandals since I ripped a big toenail off in 
the nature reserve and they are wonderful.  I could wear sneakers and socks 
in winter but it never gets cold enough.  

Cheers

George

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[RBW] Re: Are you in need of a bolt tuning?

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Some years back I was involved with a motorcycle racing team.  When we 
needed to get the rider to focus on winning, the head mechanic would tell 
him we had just bolted some high tech wizardry to the bike and he was going 
to be so much faster.  Transfixed by the thought that he had something the 
others didn't, he would suddenly be a couple of seconds quicker around the 
track.  Most times, we hadn't done anything to the bike.  It was all in his 
mind.  However, we would have used these titanium bolts in a flash, Gotta 
be good for another 5 klicks down the straight, Peter!

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[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications

[George Millwood]

Matthew, I rode a Cannondale touring bike for some years and gradually 
added Riv bits when my wallet could afford them.  I bought a B17, a seat 
post, some Nitto bottle cages, a stem and handlebars but I was soon 
dissatisfied and sent off for some other stems, handlebars, bar tape and 
somesuch.  I got my LBS to make up some nice wheels for the widest tyres I 
could fit and then found a local stockist for the SKS mudguards(fenders). 
 Then I realised what the problem really was and bought an Atlantis frame 
and forks.  

Now I've continued on this path changing all the driveline, upgrading to 
beautiful french stainless steel mudguards and the last bit left of the 
Cannondale is the brakes.  I'm saving up for Pauls.  I also have a Birdy 
folder and a Specialised Shark Sport beach cruiser as I live on a beach but 
they've both got Brooks.

Riv is a state of mind.  You've got that state of mind, the rest will come 
in time.  In the meantime welcome and make yourself at home.

George Millwood
Atlantis No 93
Wollongong NSW Australia where it's winter now and a miserable 15 Celsius 
today, it'll be Saturday before it's back up to 20 

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications

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[RBW] Re: Wildflower Ramble!

[George Millwood]

 I'm lying on the couch at home on a grey day.  I have a grade three 
 compression stocking on my left leg from toes to groin.  This is because I 
 have acquired a large deep vein thrombosis which extends from my ankle to 
 above my knee, multiple pulmonary embolisms in my lungs and I've just 
 returned from a visit to the ENT Surgeon who has informed me that my 
 thyroid gland is 15 to 20 time the normal size, full of large nodules, and 
 will have to be removed.  The weather is glum; nasty wind and a promise of 
 rain but your photos really gave me an uplift just when i was wallowing in 
 self pity.  There will be better days and I will ride through fields of 
 wildflowers again and while I can't I have your marvelous photos.  Thanks.


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[RBW] Re: Failing Carbon at Reach the Beach

[George Millwood]

See the horror stories on carbon fibre at:- 

http://www.bustedcarbon.com/

These go back to 2011 as the guy running the blog ran out of enthusiasm for 
the subject.  Still it is sobering to see that racing bikes break, 
production bikes break, 29ers break, they all break and it is disastrous as 
the break in sudden and has caused serious injury.

I was watching the Tour Down Under on TV a few years back when a racer did 
a face pant at speed following a frame/fork failure. It made a real mess of 
him and discouraged me from ever riding carbon fibre.  I know I will 
attract a storm of people whio have ridden cf for years without a problem 
and other stating that those were the early days and all is rosy now but I 
since I cycle to lose weight from this 1947 model homo sapiens I can't be 
bothered.

I run a Company that has payment kiosks fabricated and talking with the 
materials guy at the manufacturing plant, some things emerged.  In his 
opinion and from his research, carbon fibre is liable to fail following a 
nick of crack which can escape observation.  Carbon fibre tubs in motorcars 
are protected from such damage by the bodywork.  This problem has led to 
carbon fibre being manufactured with titanium mesh as the last lay up. 
 Either that or it looks really cool and they can charge a lot more money 
for it.

George Millwood
Wollongong Australia where it is late Autumn which means that it only hit 
22C on an overcast day., 



  

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for bike repair books?

[George Millwood]

I go with Sheldon's website and other forums on the web.  The basics can be 
acquired in a night class.  Here in the land of Oz, the bicycle association 
runs some workshops as do some bike shops. What has really elevated my 
wrenching to the point where I am now buying a work stand is a gaggle of 
nephews/friends/relatives who have bikes that need a little TLC before we 
can go for a ride.  
It all depends on how you learn.  Personally, I need a mentor, lots of 
practice and a reference.  I can't manage straight from a book and envy 
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[RBW] Re: New bike siting: Cheviut/Cheviot/Chevrolet?

[George Millwood]

Ridgy didge, mate, it's gunna be so schmick it'll be michael mouse!

George Millwood
Wollongong Australia

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[RBW] Christmas

[George Millwood]

Merry Christmas everyone!  

May the air stay in your tyres, may the cars keep a metre and may you 
always have the strength to climb that next hill.

George Millwood
Wollongong, Australia

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[RBW] Re: Bridgestone motorcycle

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 No it wasn't a rotary shift on the 350 GTR, it was on the smaller bikes, 
in particular, the 90.  I know, I rode a 350 GTR belonging to a friend.  
Tanyrate, it was never that big a problem.  At the time, motorcycle gear 
shifts were in a state of flux.  I quote

In the 1970s and earlier, the British made bikes that shifted with the 
right foot. Some were down for first and up for everything else. Some were 
up for first and down for the rest. Then the Japanese jumped in with 
neutral all the way up and everything else down, or neutral down and all 
the rest up. To make things really interesting they also came up with a 
rotary shift, which went 1,2,3,4, neutral,1,2,3,4, neutral... etc. 
Supposedly this was to make city riding easier. All you had to do was shift 
down one more time, to get into neutral, as you come up to a stop light. 
One bike, the Bridgestone 175*,* even gave you a choice between four gear 
rotary shift or five gear oneup, the rest down shifting. A lever on the 
crankcase let you choose. Not only that, but before 1965 there was an extra 
neutral between fourth and fifth gears too !

In Australia, we had British, Japanese, Italian and Spanish motorcycles.  
You got used to thinking about what you were doing.  A useful attribute in 
an age of narrow tyres, small cable operated drum brakes and flexible 
chassis with a motor capable of reaching 90 to 100 mph.  Nearly as risky as 
barrelling down a steep hill on a bicycle with brakes that according to the 
maker were designed to slow you down not bring you to a stop.

George Millwood
Wollongong, Australia




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[RBW] Re: Bridgestone motorcycle

[George Millwood]

This is the era when I started motorcycling.  Bridgestone was a very 
serious motorcycle company with a 350 twin (350 GTR) that was the fastest 
motorcycle you could buy.  They were the best Japanese motorcycle on the 
market at the time.  IMO far better than Honda or Yamaha.  Only the Suzuki 
Hustler came close.  The rumour was that they gave up on the motorcycles as 
they were selling to many tyres to the other motorcycle companies and 
didn't want to cruel a growing market.  But who knows?  I had a BSA 650 and 
the Bridgestone 350 GTR could beat me out on the Cotter Road any Friday 
night.

The Cotter Road is the road that snakes out through the hills to the Cotter 
Dam near Canberra, the capital of Australia where I grew up.  Every Friday 
night, the local motorcycle riders would congregate on the forecourt of a 
motor car dealer near the beginning of this road and indulge in friendly 
competition up and down the road long into the night.  It was a challenging 
ride and it soon sorted out who could ride and what worked.  The local 
Police left us alone as we weren't 'hooning' around town and bothering them.

Now that you've indulged my little bit of nostalgia I will go take the 
Atlantis for a ride on what is shaping up as a glorious day. 

George Millwood Wollongong Australia 07;26
  

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[RBW] Re: Wool socks

[George Millwood]

 Hi Anne,


As an Australian I cannot let this go by without pointing out that  

*http://www.abcoutlets.com.au/shop/kosi_wool*http://www.abcoutlets.com.au/shop/kosi_wool

appear to have the very socks you're after and if you're on a good thing 
stick to it.

If you need someone local to act as an agent, drop me a line

from George Millwood on a stinking hot day in Wollongong, Australia


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[RBW] Re: RBW Tea Drinkers must Try - maybe not OT

[George Millwood]

Taylors of Harrowgate Ntingwe Kwazulu Tea from South Africa via Yorkshire.  
The crème de le crème of all black teas. 'A fresh, brisk flavour and a 
bright liquor'

Daintree Tea from Queensland for that smoky camping flavour.

Billy Tea, which is a brand not just a method, for memories of a golden 
childhood in Canberra when it was a small country town and bicycling was a 
common means of transport.

George Millwood


  


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[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

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I'm gonna mention the Kool Aid, but to collect you'll have to come to the 
Five Islands Brewery here n Wollongong, Australia.  First in best dressed 
and make mine an Apocalypso.
 
Now that I've got that off my chest, I agree with most of your observations 
however:-
 
For me, whipping with twine is a flashback to repairing cricket bats.. 
Something I had to do as a young boy as we couldn't afford new bats.  But 
it was Rivendell that sparked it, hadn't thought of it for years.
 
Zip ties are fine for temporary repairs but I prefer to find more permanent 
solutions for affixing bits and bobs.
 
I love wide tyres.  This was a great revelation from Rivendell to me. My 
Atlantis runs on 37mm and I have a sneaking suspicion that 650b wheels with 
42mm tyres might be the best choice for me.   I have a Beach Cruiser with 
50mm tyres and it is so comfortable and sure footed on the red gravel path 
through Puckey's Reserve..  
 
I cannot ride a bike with out a leather (Brooks) saddle.
 
High bars work for me but position is so personal. I have herniated disks 
and, Ross, my mechanic has found a position on the 64cm Atlantis using a 
10cm Dirtdrop. Moustache bars, my old B17 Special and a lugged seat post 
that suits me fine.  He thinks I need a bigger bike and I am nudging the 
tipping point when for the cost of importing a fine Rivendell there are 
local artisans who can fashion superb frames from lugs and steel.  Living 
on the other side of the Pacific has its problems.
 
I still have a pair of  SPD pedals somewhere but I love the various MKS 
pedals I've acquired over the years.  I also have the MKS platforms with 
toe clips and some locally made kangaroo leather straps.  But these I keep 
for special occasions.
 
Albatross bars are just fantastic.  I have a fascination with the unusual 
and fantastic.  I was intrigued by folding bicycles and as work takes me 
around the country and I need my rides to keep my old body functioning, 
they looked like a good idea.  Saw a Birdy on the net, got my niece to buy 
it for me, rode and was appalled.  I thought I had wasted my money.  Put on 
a B68 and a set of Albatross bars and it is transformed.  I now hurtle 
around the place on a non Rivendell bike but it is the Rivendell parts 
which make it workable.
 
Wool, ah wool.  I grew up in Canberra which is in the Yass fine wool 
growing area.  In the markets of the little towns throughout the area you 
will find local spinners and weavers with merino garments of the highest 
quality although some of the colour combinations can be startling.  I have 
a Rugby sweater from a market in Canberra that was just gorgeous and 
fifteen years later still looks great.
 
Finally , the real reason I drink the Kool Aid, it is the attitude to 
cycling.  You don't have to race or tour or commute or belong to any of the 
myriad tribes.  You don't even have to be orthodox Rivendell.  You can just 
go out and ride for the fun of it.  I'm sixty six now but when I set off in 
the morning for my tour of the beaches I'm eight years old and free as a 
bird.
 
 
 
 
 

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[RBW] Re: Which RBW Velosophies have worked for you? Which haven't?

[George Millwood]

Anytime you pedal from Warragul to Wollongong, there'll be a line of beers 
on the counter at the Five islands because you're gonna need 'em.  Cheers
 

On Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:17:10 UTC+11, sameness wrote:

 I'm gonna mention the Kool Aid, but to collect you'll have to come to the 
 Five Islands Brewery here n Wollongong, Australia


 Your shout? I reckon I can be there by smoko.

 Jeff Hagedorn
 Warragul, VIC Australia


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[RBW] Re: Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways

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I have ridden rentals in Melbourne, Norrkoping and Amsterdam.  I am an XXXL 
size Australian bloke and it is hard for the shop to fit me.  Amsterdam was 
the best but I now hate rental bikes with such a passion that I have bought 
a folding bike.  However, my LBS is, at this very moment, working out how 
to fit an Albatross and a B68 to it.  I found the narrow straight bar it 
came with to be a twitchy horror and the narrow leather on plastic saddle 
to be a real a**axe.  
 
I have an Atlantis with Moustache bars that work for me as it is the bike 
I'm most likely to be pedalling into the wind and my herniated discs do 
allow a Moustache.  I might well be moving to an Albastache.  I tried the 
Moustache upside down for awhile but it didn't work for me  
 
As I live on a beach, I own a beach cruiser, which has a Albatross style 
bar and it is s comfortable.  Particularly since I fitted a B67.  It 
too is also destined for the LBS where a pile of Riv gear will be fitted.
 
My wife found the combination of B67s and Albatross on her old Trek to be a 
delight.
 
George, Wollongong, Australia

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Re: [RBW] Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

[George Millwood]

Ah Patrick, you've stirred memories.  A couple of months back, I was doing 
my usual morning jaunt up and down the coast when I hit the fast part.  
This is  a stretch of main road I use to join two quiet bits.  'Tanyrate I 
work up a bit of speed say 25mph - flat chat on my Specialized Shark beach 
cruiser; 40lbs, 50mm tyres with an off road style tread - and I come to the 
traffic lights where there is a bunch of serious lycra just getting 
underway.  I cannot resist, I sweep around them, baggy shorts flapping, 
tyres buzzing and yell out C'mon fellas pick up the pace!  In five 
seconds they're gone past in a wave of grim intent.  Not even a call, but 
then I was laughing so much I wouldn't have heard.  
Something about riding brings out the child in me, I'm sixty six, can't run 
as I have herniated disks, can't walk long distances as a kneecap floats 
about but I can ride for hours.  I can climb hills, although not on the 
Shark, dawdle along the cycle path through the kids and the dogs, sprint 
down a quiet road, and linger on that stretch of the cycle path that 
follows the ridge of the sand dunes overlooking the beach. 

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[RBW] Re: Who's drinking the Kool Aid?

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 I have drunk the Kool Aid and I'm proud of it.  My Atlantis is the perfect 
 road bike for me, a sixty plus trundler of a cyclist who enjoys riding and 
 couldn't give a hot buttered stuff for racing.  My other bikes are a 
 Specialized Shark beach cruiser which is essential as I live on a beach in 
 Australia and a Birdy folding bike for which I'm waiting delivery.  The 
 Shark has a Brooks B68, King Cage and a Carradice and I'm planning a whole 
 lot of other Rivendell bling for it and the Birdy.  

 

 Wollongong is a rust belt city by the sea that used to be a steel town and 
 is fast becoming a University town.  We have a wide range of cycle styles 
 meeting down by the beach for an espresso.  However, the serious lycra set 
 meet at Diggies café and the rest of us meet at the North Beach Kiosk.  
 Both cafes are part of the same building and run by the same management but 
 serious lycra does not speak to the Others.  That is their problem and 
 their Kool Aid, I would include the rather earthy Australian retort for 
 these people but it would probably grossly offend a lot of innocent 
 people.  It has something to do with inserting their bicycle pump in the 
 most inappropriate part of their anatomy for reasons of self 
 gratification.  But you must realise that Australians have always been 
 rather blunt and to the point. 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Choice

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 Thanks for the all the stories they were wonderful!

 
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Choice

[George Millwood]

 One day I'll master these doggone computer things, I've only been using 
 them for thirty seven years. 

 

 'Tanyrate, before I was so rudely interrupted I was going to say that I 
 was a late starter.  Went from beater to Trek hybrid which was great to a 
 too small Cannondale tourer sold to me by an over eager LBS.  

 

 While riding the Cannondale, I bought some stuff off Rivendell.  A Brooks, 
 a seat post, some bars, a saddlebag, a Technomic, another set of bars, some 
 Nitto bottle holders, a different stem, another set of bars, bar tape, a 
 seat post and finally an Atlantis frame.  Then I found a great LBS who 
 built me a splendid set of wheels and lately I went to Rivendell for 
 another stem, a lugged seat post, a new derailleur, cluster, chain and 
 silver bar ends.  The only bit let from the Cannondale is the brakes 
 and I'm saving for a set of Pauls.  

 

 The Cannondale frame is hanging from the trellis on my mother in law back 
 verandah.  One day I'll sell it to raise some cash so I can go bananas on 
 the Rivendell website shop.

 

 George (Atlantis No 93) Wollongong Australia 

 


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[RBW] Re: Synergy rims

[George Millwood]

Had 700's on the Atlantis for 5 years.  Commuted and toured.  No problems.

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[RBW] Re: Bosco Bars Great on Beach Cruisers!

[George Millwood]

Great build from a choice selection of parts.  I particularly like the 
saddle.  I'm contemplating how to rebuild my beach cruiser, a Specialised 
Shark, and this has given me a lot to think about.  Great work.
 

On Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:17:41 UTC+10, Pudge wrote:

  I was building a bike to donate to a charity auction, a sort of beach 
 cruiser remake of a late ‘70s Fuji mixte, and it occurred to me that the 
 spare set of Bosco bars languishing in my shop might work well on it.  
 Turns out they’re as great for that kind of casual upright bike as they are 
 for touring, and they look perfect on the new 3-speed cruiser version, too.

  

 Forgive me a couple of pictures:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8688847823/in/photostream/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8686209405/in/photostream/

  

 And the bars up closer:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8687338688/in/photostream

  

 Tom

  
  
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[RBW] A blinding glimpse of the obvious......

[George Millwood]

It is so nice when scientists use their lesiure time to enlighten the
public

http://www.smh.com.au/executive-style/fitness/in-cycling-its-a-case-of-more-waist-less-speed-20101213-18vj5.html

In our case it is preaching to the converted but it is still nice to
see it in print.

George Millwood
Atlantis No 93
Wollongong Australia

Yes, I have left the great metropolis of Sydney and relocated to the
coastal city of Wollongong.  This is the steel making heart of
Australia but thanks to closed hearth furnaces it is now but a
different skyline.  I now live one and a half blocks from a couple of
glorious beaches and enjoy a coastal cyclepath that gently winds along
the cost past rockpools, the aforementioned steelworks and golden
sands that stretch for miles.  You can look it up on Google Maps.

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[RBW] Re: Cashmere Riding Jersey?

[George Millwood]

Cashmere huh!  Can't wait until you all discover alpaca, angora,
mohair and camel.  However, for real warmth without weight you cannot
better knitted silk.  When I was young and foolish I had a business
suit in a cloth that was a mixture of mohair and silk.  It was
gorgeous, tailored in Paris and almost made me look respectable.

regards

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Sydney, Australia

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[RBW] Re: ST Glove review - Rivendell winter gloves

[George Millwood]

The only time I had a pair of gloves that fit was back in the days
after the pill and before herpes.  I had a pair of gloves made by an
Austrian woman who had a small room in a building full of clothing sub-
contractors and bright young things creating a label on daddy's money
or a loan from the boyfriend.  She made me a pair of motorcycle gloves
which were really a pair of winter riding gloves as worn by the Heavy
Cavalry in Austria.  They really did fit like a glove as she explained
to me, between reminiscinces about life in Vienna when she wore the
Emperor's badge, the human body is not symmetrical and your hands are
different sizes to each other let alone anyone else's hands.  When it
comes to off the shelf gloves, the best you can hope for is a rough
approximation.  Personally, I shop for gloves from german suppliers
which fit on the thumb and first two fingers but the other two
especially the little finger are too long.

regards

George Millwood
Sydney, Australia

On Dec 16, 4:50 am, jim_OLP j...@landoloons.com wrote:
 I don't think I've ever had gloves or mittens where the thumb wasn't
 too short. They all seem to be made for the species that came right
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[RBW] Re: Would it be against the law - a tigged Rivendell?

[George Millwood]

Dear Eddie,

I don't want to be the one to pour tomato ketchup all over your
chocolate cake but let me quote from 
http://www.rivbike.com/article/bicycle_making/the_big_picture

All of our frames are lugged steel. Steel, because it's the best
material for frames, in terms of toughness, longevity, proportions,
repairability, and safety; lugged, because it's better to create a
joint with a low-stress sleeve of beautiful steel, than to merely melt
steel together, or even joint it with brass fillets.

You may personally prefer welded frames, or fillet-brazed frames, and
that's fine. We prefer them lugged, and so that's all we make.

Rivendells are lugged steel frames, there are lots of others who make
tigged steel frames, do it well and do it to a price point.  If you
look, you will find someone making exactly what you want, how you want
and at a price you can afford.  You cannot say that for any other
consumer durable.  How long this happy state of affairs will continue
in this present state of financial apocalypse, who can tell.  But if
there is something you want/need/desire and it's availalble now and
you have the money then buy it.  For it may not be available this time
next year.

Merry Christmas to all and thanks for all the wonderful emails that
have entertained me so much this past year.

George Millwood
Sydney, Australia where it has almost been too hot to ride this past
fortnight.

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[RBW] Re: It's a race: Rivendell vs AntBike

[George Millwood]

On the basis that everything I bet on loses, I wager one worn toe
strap on the ANT.  Winner will have to pay postage or row across the
Pacific.

George Millwood
Atlantis No 93
Sydney, Australia
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[RBW] Re: Slightly OT - riding with a herniated disk

[George Millwood]

I had a spinal protrusion at L5/S1 seven years ago when I was 55.
Could barely walk with excruciating sharp pains in the lower back.  I
went to see the doctor who sent me to see a specialist surgeon who
wouldn't operate as I was not bad enough to warrant operating.  He
recommended a whole raft of things other than surgery.  I was treated
by the wonderful, but now late, Beryl Kennedy, here in Sydney and she
made me see my injury in a different light which was the start of my
recovery.  However, I do attribute a major part of my recovery to
getting on the Atlantis each day and riding for as long as I was able.
The other bits were Feldenkrais, Swimmimg, Pressure Point massage and
Acupuncture.  But, here's the disclaimer, everyone is different and
what worked for me may not work for you.  I don't know if the massage
was a great help but I really enjoyed it and it did make me relax and
feel better about myself which must be a benefit.

George Millwood
Atlantis No 93
sydney, Australia
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[RBW] Re: End of the Atlantis?!?

[George Millwood]

I agree with Beth, onward ever onward.  The Atlantis has served its
purpose.  True enough I have one and will probably will it to a
deserving grand nephew/niece if they're the right size.  However, if
you don't have one and you really want one then you have three
options.  Place an order now and pay whatever, buy a second hand one
from someone who has moved on, or get a custom builder to make a
facsimile.  Grant should move on and design a new bike and give it a
new name and we should all buy one and fill megabytes with comment on
why it is different and the same and isn't it great and so on and so
forth.  There are lots of things I should have done back in the day.
I should never have sold my K1100RS motorbike, I should have bought
one of those green Quickbeams,  I should have ordered a Longlow, I
should have skipped football training when Mary Durack asked me to go
walking up Mt Ainslie with her.  The list is endless and any one of
you could fill a megabyte or two with similiar shouldhaves.  Life is
too short to get a crick in the neck looking backwards, Rivendell
still makes nice bikes that embody the principles we hold dear.
They're much better than the old bikes which inspired them and the
next generation will be wonderful too.

regards

George Millwood
Atlantis No 93
Sydney, Australia

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[RBW] Re: Wide-brimmed Headwear

[George Millwood]

The best hat for active wear is a funnel web.  See the range at

http://www.funnelwebheadwear.com.au/funnelweb_index.html

They are Australian, where winter means rolling down the sleeves of
your shirt before riding to work in the morning.  A country where
basal cell carcinomas are a hideous reality and the twice yearly trip
to the dermatologist is a practical necessity.  Hats are serious
business and Colin Usher makes the best.

Do yourself a favour

George Millwood
Atlantis No 93
Sydney Australia
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[RBW] Foot position

[George Millwood]

Has anyone else seen this

http://biomac.webstudios.at/index.php?option=com_contentview=frontpageItemid=1lang=en

a clipless shoe manufacturer with the cleat under the instep.  What
next eh!

regards

George Millwood
Atlantis No 93
Sydney Australia
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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Surviving SoCal Weather--More Smarminess!

[George Millwood]

I'd love some ice, it's a heatwave here in Sydney, Australia.  At
11:00pm it's still 75 degrees and 73% humidity, tomorrow it's going to
make 90.  The week after they finished the Tour Down Under in Adelaide
they had six days over 104 and a peak of 115.

Riv content:  There was a mass crash on one stage of the Tour and many
carbon bikes simply splintered into shards.  My witness was a
confirmed 'carbon is the greatest thing since peanut butter and banana
sandwiches' but not any more.

Keep up this idle nonsense, after a day wrestling with computer
networks it's wonderful.

regards

George Millwood
Atlantis No 93


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[RBW] Re: Velocity continuing 650b rim production...Yay!

[George Millwood]

As Velocity is an Australian firm and forms the home grown component
of my international bicycle, I emailed them about the rumour of the
rims being discontinued and received this reply |-

George,

Thanks for your email.

This is 100% false.

We understand that QBP ( Quality Bicycle Products ) in the US are
looking at
having us roll there 650b rims in our Dyad extrusion instead of the
Synergy extrusion.
Apparantly they have listed on their website that the Synergy is
discontinued.  Meaning they wont stock it from now.

Providing Velocity USA orders enough for the US market, we will
continue to
manufacture them.

I currently have a hand full left here in Australia

Thanks again.

Adam

regards

George Millwood
Sydney Australia where it hit 39.4 celcius today that's 103 in
fahrenheit, humidity was 64% so it has been a good day to lie in the
shade and drink cool drinks tomorrow I'm off to Wollongong where
there's a rockpool washed by the sea.
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