[RBW] WTB drop bar roady riv.

[J L]

Hello rivsters.

Im looking for a used Rivendell road bike in 54/55 cm. I test rode a roadini 
size 50 and it was very nice but too long in the chainstays for my tastes. 
Newer geometry beyond that model is too long to also use drop bars, for my 
proportions. Roadeo 55cm would be ideal, other older models could work.

Looking to buy FFH or complete in order of preference:

Send offers direct if possible to keep the list clutter low.

Cheers
JL 


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Re: [RBW] FS: Rambouillet 54cm, Classic Blue

[J L]

Steven, I am interested in this bike, but unsure about clicking links. Can you email photos directly to me or post a few here for others to see as well.JLOn Feb 1, 2024, at 3:02 PM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Sad to part with this Classic Blue version, but have finally realized that I should ride a 56cm.  And it just so happens that another customer of my LBS HappyGo Bikes in Washington, DC was moving on from hers.  So trading the blue for a dark green.  Photos should be accessible via the link below.  Amazingly, just a fews fleck scratches - the color still pops. Set up as an upright with Mostache steel bars and bar end Shimano shifters.   Components are basically what came with the bike, Shimano headset, 105 hubs, 105 front derailleur.   Newer Deore derailleur that replaced the short cage 105, which I still have if your would rather. Pedals are meh - I could be convinced to offer SKS Sneaker pedals if requested.   Carved Brooks Flyer saddle included.  Offered for $1900.  Can ship from my LBS at your cost.  https://share.icloud.com/photos/077BIXWT4gxqwcMZb12iG1e2g 



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[RBW] WTB 53 or 55 roadeo

[J L]

Hello all,

Anyone wanting to send their roadeo (size 53 or 55cm) back into the wild? I’m 
looking for a straight forward road bike and that could fit just perfectly. 

I have an orange 54cm QB that I might be convinced to trade.

Please send offers or questions offlist to minimize the message clutter.

Thanks!
JL in SF

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Re: [RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

[J L]

While all the bikes OP listed are great vehicles, none of them fit the brief. 
If the brief is “Lighter, more roadish, with drop bars…” for someone 5’ in 
height, I would look for used Georgina Terry bikes. Terry is an accomplished 
and innovative bicycle designer and frame builder. She builds custom bicycles 
now and has offered many production models in the past. Many of her designs 
utilize two different wheel sizes (24” front, 700c rear) to allow for the top 
tube length and stand over height to match the needs of short stature riders. 

She also offered bicycles with 650c (571) and later, 26” (559) wheels. Her 26” 
(559) bikes tend to be designed around Rene Herse Elk Pass 26x1.25 tires. 

The flea bay has beautiful blue Waterford built Terry Gale Force road frame for 
559 wheels. I messages OP directly with this suggestion. 

Another used bicycle option is searching for 650c bikes. We know from list 
member Patrick M. that 571x23 and 559x32 work on the same frames. Elk Pass 
tires tend to run a little narrow at 29-30mm so width is usually not an issue 
either. A discerning eye can separate the old time trial bikes from the small 
wheel road bicycles. Also on the flea bay is a nice steel Davidson, though the 
top tube might be too long for this use.  

There are many current options using this 650c route on the bay, including a 
super inexpensive Terry size 50x50cm square. Which is too large for OP’s spouse 
but would be a nice bike for someone in the 5’2” range.

JL from SF

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[RBW] Re: WTB 54 quickbeam

[J L]

Update:

I might have found a 56 QB. Still looking for 54 though. Does anyone want to 
trade a 54 for a 56?  The difference is only a .5cm longer top tube and 2cm 
taller stand over. 

Cheers
JL in SF


> On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:34 AM, J L  wrote:
> 
> Hello listers,
> 
> Every year or so I check in about the availability of a 54cm quickbeam. 
> 
> Anyone have such a thing they want to pass on to a new owner? 
> 
> Offers offlist please to control the clutter 
> 
> Cheers,
> JL in SF

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[RBW] WTB 54 quickbeam

[J L]

Hello listers,

Every year or so I check in about the availability of a 54cm quickbeam. 

Anyone have such a thing they want to pass on to a new owner? 

Offers offlist please to control the clutter 

Cheers,
JL in SF

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Re: [RBW] Re: 3-speeding Quickbeams and SimpleOnes

[J L]

Strumy Archer makes a 120 OLD version of their X-RF8 8 speed internal hub. It is a modern style hub with a rotary switch rather than the chain actuated gear shift.On Jun 20, 2023, at 9:50 AM, Arthur Mayfield  wrote:I don’t know what the rear spacing is on the Quickbeams and Simple One, but my Frank Jones Sr has 120mm track dropouts. Finding a modern manufacture IGH with 120mm OLD has been a lost cause for me (and I build my own wheels). I’m sure if I pored over the possibles long and diligently enough, I’d run across one or a vintage AW, but it simply becomes easier to hop on another bike when I need the gears. I’d like to build a 3 spd wheel for my FJ, though. One clear advantage of IGH over other multi-gear options on single speed bikes that I haven’t seen mentioned is the ease of riding with “good” fenders. I’ve tried using a flip-flop on my FJ with full coverage, aluminum fenders, and it’s not only a pita to do on the road (as well as time-consuming), but the rear fender could never be set up to fit properly to my standards. An IGH would make that a non-issue, at least until there’s a flat. Removing wheels from bikes rigged with chain tensioners on track dropouts “in the wild” for flats or other maintenance presents yet another nest of problems, with or without fenders. Overall, I’d be happier with a nice IGH. I could even get down to one bike  On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 2:30:13 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:In defense of the old 3 speed igh, the drag, at least for the old SA AW, has been tested at considerably less than that of much more complex, multi-epicycle internal gear trains with 7+ gears, and my experience (considerable with 2 and 3 speed SA hubs, only a little, but some with modern 7+ gear hubs) bears this out very clearly. IMO, the simplicity and low drag (and lower weight) of the simpler multigear hubs makes them preferable, at least to me, to the more complex, draggier, and heavier ones.I have a QR 17/19 Dingle wheel on my Riv 1999 fixed gear road custom and switching from the 76" to a 68" headwind gear is very easy, but I noticed that I downshifted much more often and readily with the 2 speed TC hub (76" direct and 66" underdrive), helpful when your direction into the wind or the slope of the terrain changes often. My point is not that you ("all y'all") should go get a TC -- last made in the 1940s? Mine is 1937 -- but that igh's do offer some benefits over manual "get off the bike and move the chain" shifting. Personally, I perfer the external simplicity of a simple igh over multiple cogs or rings, and I prefer multiple cogs over multiple rings, again for simplicity and ease of use. AAYMMAWV.I get back to that downgeared AW Schwinn: 69", 52", 39" which for a $50-total-expenditure beater including new 36 t chainring + shop labor (1989) proved to be very versatile indeed.On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 10:32 AM Drew Saunders  wrote:My orange Quickbeam came set up as a "2 speed" with 32-40-chainguard chainrings on a 74/110 triple (still has those) plus an 18t freewheel.I immediately made it a "3 speed" with a 17/19 Dos Eno freewheel. The chain is too slack for the 32/17 to work, so only 3 options: 40/17 (99% of my riding), 40/19, 32/19.I later added a 22T freewheel to the flip side of the flip/flop hub, which will work with the 32, but not the 40, so I have an extremely inconvenient 4-speed.I rarely take it out of the 40/17, but the headwinds this morning made me wonder if I should have used the 40/19.All of that was much cheaper and easier than getting an internally geared hub, and if I did go for an IGH, I'd get a modern 7 or 8 speed anyway.



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[RBW] Re: FS bits

[J L]

Hello all.

Everything sold. Thank you.

JL in SF

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[RBW] FS bits

[J L]

Hello all!

Crossposted from another list:
> 
> Will consider partial trade for a new 11s chain.
> 
> All prices INCLUDE shipping inside CONUSA, farther away; let’s talk. Very 
> happy to combine shipping.
> 
> Seat posts
> Thompson 27.2 Silver. Cut to 200mm -$45
> Origin8. Black. NEW 26.6 two bolt. 400mm - $25
> Kalloy 27.2 with a short setback. 230mm - $25
> 
> Tektro RL520 long pull drop levers NEW. -$40
> Cane creek scr-5 black or tan hoods -$60
> 
> Tektro R559 brake pair recessed NEW?  - $60
> Teltro R559 brake pair nutted NEW - $60
Dia Compe 610 with link arms (no stradle cable to fuss with) - $40
> 
> Challenge Strada Bianca RACE 700x33 tires all black low miles - $30
> 
> 8s 11-30t Shimano cassette. NEW - $40
> 32t rear cog. - $20
> 74bcd 28t SR chainring - $20
> 
> Shimano dual sided SPD pedals NEW - $40
> Shimano 600 Tricolor bits 8s
> FD, RD, Brakes, crankset w/ rings. - $50
> 
Grand bois Maes bars bar set W Cane Creek SCR-5 levers and nitto 17° stem (85mm 
horizontal, 95mm along the length of the stem) and new teal cloth bartape. $100
 
> Shopville basket bag. Green, medium -$40

Raleigh Competition Frame and Fork 56cm 1974 fits 700x38 plus fenders. Great 
650B candidate. 
$100 pick up in SF only
> 
> Thanks all - email direct to avoid list clutter. I have pics ready to send on 
> request.
> 
> Cheers
> JL in SF

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Roaduno Dropouts

[J L]

Can someone tell me the purpose of the hoods on dropouts like these? They are 
referred to as Breezer style, right? 

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[RBW] FS Brompton Ti

[J L]

Group,

I have a new Brompton 6speed H type bar (high) dark blue with special Ti parts. 
They call it a superlight. I think It is in the spirit of riv, with a little 
extra “sure why not” added in. 

For sale: $2300 shipped.

I have some extra parts and could sell as an M bar (mid height) and/or single 
speed or two speed.

Open to trade plus $ for a 54 or 56cm quickbeam. 

Cheers
Jason in SF

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[RBW] Re: FS 10s bits, choco, TA

[J L]

Updates and additions (prices include shipping inside con usa.  Pics available 
if you would like. 

Ruthworks underseat bag, black NEW  -$100
Baggins waxed canvas bar bag - $60
Brand V tan seat bag and bar bag pair - $60

Tektro 559 recessed mount brakes NEW -$60

Dura ace 7700 triple rear derailer (7703) the big pulley / medium cage dura ace 
9s one, small scuff - $100

Ritchey 1” threadless x 105 length stem, silver finish (not chrome or polished) 
17° - $25


> Nitto Choco bars - $100
> 
> TA cranks 2007 5 pin 50.4bcd etched logos 170mm english pedal threads NEW - 
> $200
> TA chainring 48t 8-10s NEW - $50
> TA chainring 46t 8-10s NEW - $50
  TA chainring 40t 8-10s (inner) NEW - $40
> TA chainring 30t 8-10s (inner)VGC - $40
> TA bolt set for double NEW - $50
> NEW TA 50.4 crankset with 48/30 or 46/30 rings -$300


> Microshift 10s road derailer set F/R polished - $60 - SOLD
> Microshift  10s bar end shifters NEW - $ 60 $50
> 
> Shimano 10s 6700 12-30 cass VGC - $60 $50
> 
> Thompson seatpost 27.2 cut to 210 - $50 $40
> Thompson setback seatpost 27.2 250 - $80 $60
> 
> Paul Motolite brakes pair, fair condition - $180 SOLD
> Paul Minimoto brakes pair GC - $200 SOLD 
> 
> Let me know offlist if you want anything. 

> Cheers
> Jason

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[RBW] FS 10s bits, choco, TA

[J L]

Hello,

I have a few items for sale that I found during spring cleaning. Pics if you 
want. Prices are OBO and include shipping inside USA

Nitto Choco bars - $100

TA cranks NEW 2007 5 pin 50.4bcd etched logos 170mm english pedal threads - $200
TA chainring 48t 8-10s NEW - $50
TA chainring 46t 8-10s NEW - $50
TA chainring 30t 8-10s (inner)VGC - $40
TA bolt set for double NEW - $50

Microshift 10s road derailer set F/R polished - $60
Microshift  10s bar end shifters NEW - $60

Shimano 10s 6700 12-30 cass VGC - $60

Thompson seatpost 27.2 cut to 210mm - $50
Thompson setback seatpost 27.2 250mm - $80 

Paul Motolite brakes pair, fair condition - $180
Paul Minimoto brakes pair GC - $200

Let me know offlist if you want anything. 
Cheers
Jason

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Re: [RBW] Bring Out The Brompton!

[J L]

Nice. 

I love this hi-viz colorway.


> On Sep 7, 2021, at 8:55 PM, Surlyprof  wrote:
> 
> Here's mine with a bit of Rivendell content.  I've had it since Christmas 
> 2016.  It has been my primary commuter because the huge Brompton T Bag fit my 
> Wacom 16" MobileStudio Pro, books, lunch and jacket with room to spare.  I 
> used the multisack as a Brompton mini-pannier for a while.  Heel clearance 
> was a bit of an issue but it worked pretty well.
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 10:42:25 PM UTC-7 domjona...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hey Philip,
>> 
>> I did see those, they could be a good option!
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, 5 Aug 2021, 22:33 Philip Barrett,  wrote:
>>> Continental makes their Contact in a 16" - 
>>> https://www.freedomfoldingbikes.com/continental-contact-urban-tire-for-brompton-16x135.html
>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, August 5, 2021 at 7:45:22 AM UTC-5 domjona...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Thanks Jason! 
>>>> 
>>>> I did look into those before, but the reviews didn't seem to be too great. 
>>>> I'll take look at the ones you recommend! Thank you so much!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Aug 2021, 11:30 J L,  wrote:
>>>>> Dom,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wider tire?  Give me a month for a ride report :) 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The largest tire made for 349 rims is the 349X1 1/2. They work out to be 
>>>>> about 38-40mm in practice. That fits the fork on all models and the rear 
>>>>> frame on many, but not all. Ti models are a little tighter. The real 
>>>>> pinch point is the rear brake caliper.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greenspeed in AUS used to make a model called Scorcher. A little internet 
>>>>> searching  will direct you to these tires used on Bromptons, including a 
>>>>> blog from a store in Japan from a few years back. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greenspeed is no longer, but you can still get 60tpi or 120tpi scorchers 
>>>>> from a recumbent shop in Australia. They also have their own house brand 
>>>>> in the same size called TRUBLU.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jason
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2021, at 6:59 PM, Dominic Ryan  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is indeed (although I live in Japan so Honjo products are much 
>>>>>> cheaper here).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is a tiny amount more clearance, however it seems there is no way 
>>>>>> to get a wider tire on the Brompton due to the frame shape (unless 
>>>>>> anyone here knows otherwise?) 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd love to see some wider and more interesting tire options for 
>>>>>> Brompton!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dom
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Aug 2021, 08:13 J L,  wrote:
>>>>>>> Dominic,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hahaha. These are a high ticket item. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is your personal bike? Is the clearance any different than with the 
>>>>>>> Brompton plastic ones? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Dominic Ryan  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For those of you that like to waste money on Brompton parts, I 
>>>>>>>> recommend some Honjo fenders!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Aug 2021, 23:01 Minh,  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> great thread and welcome to the club jason.  mine is similiar to 
>>>>>>>>> yours when i got it.  be prepared for the tinker bug!  i turned my 
>>>>>>>>> fender model into a rack one with a rack and new fender.   it makes 
>>>>>>>>> push cart mode much more stable.  
>>>>>>>>> i also added a dyno front wheel and light.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> they are useful in a way that is very different from a full size 
>>>>>>>>> bike.  though riding here in nyc can be a bit hectic with them!
>>>>&g

Re: [RBW] RE: New to the forum

[J L]

Kazu,

Welcome! 

Is that color black or midnight blue? What a nice bike! 
Mavic starfish crank? Wow.

What can you tell us about the bike?

Cheers,
Jason

> On Aug 26, 2021, at 5:42 PM, hidekazu matsuba  wrote:
> 
> Hello All, 
> 
> I am new to this forum!  Glad I found you guys!  I wanted to share with you 
> my special Riv.  I will just post the photos for now, I am curious to hear 
> what some of the experts have to say about this bike.  
> 
> Best,
> 
> Kazu
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[RBW] Basket shop sack Brompton bags

[J L]

All,

Back forever ago when I first mounted a front basket to my Saluki, then CB-0 
(x4), then… well basically every bike I have had was improved by adding an easy 
access front bag inside a basket. I still have a wald medium with green 
shopsack in it. 

Is there a Brompton bag that replicates this? Do I need to get a custom rack 
made and zip tie a basket to it? Anyone want to earn some money modifying a 
rack to allow a bolted on front carrier block catch? 

Goal - fit a full size grocery bag, full of odd shaped stuff that make the 
sides stick out here and there, into a bike mounted object. What are my 
options? 

Cheers
Jason

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Re: [RBW] Looking for a Part!

[J L]

What everyone else said.

Here is another link that shows how one might install such a strap hanging rod: 
https://youtu.be/vfQe4f0jbZs

One important note, plan for a way to keep the backpack strap from easily 
sliding off either sode of the dowel. Crutch or walker bump stop? Shower 
curtain tension rod bump stop? 

*question for anyone who has used this setup. 
Would this work easily with a “mini rack” or does the full size Brompton rack 
need to be in place to support the backpack. 

Cheers
Jason

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT items WTD Motolite

[J L]

Update:

I found a set of Motolite brakes.

Sugino PX cranks are sold.

Phil wood track hubs and 10s microshift derailer set are still available.

Cheers

> On Aug 8, 2021, at 4:20 PM, J L  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I have a few things that could go to a new home. I’m open to trade offers for 
> a set of Paul Motolite Brakes, +/- levers. Prices do not include shipping.
> 
> Sugino PX cranks 50.4 bcd, 170mm, GC. $150
> 
> Microshift 10s front and rear derailleur set, silver, VGC. $80
> 
> Phil Wood track hub set F/Fr, NEW, silver, w/lockring VGC. $300
> 
> Thanks for looking. LMK offlist please.
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Re: [RBW] Color theory

[J L]

Gabriel,

Thanks for the thoughtful response and the resources. This is just what I was 
hoping to learn about.

Jason

> On Aug 9, 2021, at 8:38 AM, Gabriel Hargrove  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Rivendell does a good job with color harmony in their frames, and I would not 
> discredit those choices as happenstance. I would recommend two books: Josef 
> Albers, Interaction of Color and Sanzo Wada (Seigensha Publishing) A 
> Dictionary of Color Combinations. Eric's statement is not without truth; I am 
> reminded of a specific insert from IoC:
> “As “gentlemen prefer blondes,” so everyone has preference for certain colors 
> and prejudices against others. This applies to color combinations as well. It 
> seems good that we are of different tastes. As it is with people in our daily 
> life, so it is with color. We change, correct, or reverse our opinions about 
> colors, and this change of opinion may shift forth and back. Therefore, we 
> try to recognize our preferences and our aversions—what colors dominate in 
> our work; what colors, on the other hand, are rejected, disliked, or of no 
> appeal. Usually a special effort in using disliked colors ends with our 
> falling in love with them.”  
> 
> Take, for example, the contentious love people have for Atlantis green. I 
> found it off putting at first, but after many miles riding I have a strong 
> affinity for it. Is it because I am partial to the way that bike rides, and 
> the color has grown on my as a result? Perhaps.
> 
> On another note regarding A Dictionary of Color Combinations: These are 
> archetypal Japanese color combinations which certainly have deeper cultural 
> references that make their pairings prevalent in Japan. However, I find most 
> of them objectively harmonious. You may find that book helpful when picking 
> accessories if you are down with the Blue Lug aesthetic. 
> 
> Gabriel Hargrove
> 
> Huntington Beach, CA
> 
>  
> 
>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021 at 3:36:43 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>> I think this means your tastes are aligned with Rivendell’s. Nothing more. 
>> 
>>> On Saturday, August 7, 2021, J L  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Designers, knowledgeable folks,
>>> 
>>> In examples where total bicycle color looks good, WHY does it look good? 
>>> 
>>> What elements of color theory and design are behind it? 
>>> 
>>> When color comes up some folks will say it is subjective (fair).
>>> 
>>> 99% of Rivendells I have seen get the color quotient right. This includes 
>>> color on all components and accessories when viewed as a whole. For this 
>>> question, and in respect to this group, let us assume these are confirming 
>>> examples. 
>>> 
>>> Jason
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[RBW] FS/WTT items WTD Motolite

[J L]

Hello all,

I have a few things that could go to a new home. I’m open to trade offers for a 
set of Paul Motolite Brakes, +/- levers. Prices do not include shipping.

Sugino PX cranks 50.4 bcd, 170mm, GC. $150

Microshift 10s front and rear derailleur set, silver, VGC. $80

Phil Wood track hub set F/Fr, NEW, silver, w/lockring VGC. $300

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[RBW] Color theory

[J L]

Designers, knowledgeable folks,

In examples where total bicycle color looks good, WHY does it look good? 

What elements of color theory and design are behind it? 

When color comes up some folks will say it is subjective (fair).

99% of Rivendells I have seen get the color quotient right. This includes color 
on all components and accessories when viewed as a whole. For this question, 
and in respect to this group, let us assume these are confirming examples. 

Jason

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Re: [RBW] Bring Out The Brompton!

[J L]

Dom,

Wider tire?  Give me a month for a ride report :) 

The largest tire made for 349 rims is the 349X1 1/2. They work out to be about 
38-40mm in practice. That fits the fork on all models and the rear frame on 
many, but not all. Ti models are a little tighter. The real pinch point is the 
rear brake caliper.

Greenspeed in AUS used to make a model called Scorcher. A little internet 
searching  will direct you to these tires used on Bromptons, including a blog 
from a store in Japan from a few years back. 

Greenspeed is no longer, but you can still get 60tpi or 120tpi scorchers from a 
recumbent shop in Australia. They also have their own house brand in the same 
size called TRUBLU.

Jason

> On Aug 4, 2021, at 6:59 PM, Dominic Ryan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jason,
> 
> It is indeed (although I live in Japan so Honjo products are much cheaper 
> here).
> 
> There is a tiny amount more clearance, however it seems there is no way to 
> get a wider tire on the Brompton due to the frame shape (unless anyone here 
> knows otherwise?) 
> 
> I'd love to see some wider and more interesting tire options for Brompton!
> 
> Dom
> 
>> On Thu, 5 Aug 2021, 08:13 J L,  wrote:
>> Dominic,
>> 
>> Hahaha. These are a high ticket item. 
>> 
>> Is your personal bike? Is the clearance any different than with the Brompton 
>> plastic ones? 
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>>>> On Aug 4, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Dominic Ryan  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> For those of you that like to waste money on Brompton parts, I recommend 
>>> some Honjo fenders!
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 4 Aug 2021, 23:01 Minh,  wrote:
>>>> great thread and welcome to the club jason.  mine is similiar to yours 
>>>> when i got it.  be prepared for the tinker bug!  i turned my fender model 
>>>> into a rack one with a rack and new fender.   it makes push cart mode much 
>>>> more stable.  
>>>> i also added a dyno front wheel and light.  
>>>> 
>>>> they are useful in a way that is very different from a full size bike.  
>>>> though riding here in nyc can be a bit hectic with them!
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 8:22:39 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I picked up the Grateful Red rear LED USB light, it comes with a couple 
>>>>> of mounting options, one of which is literally an exact fit for the 
>>>>> Brompton rear reflector bracket!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 7:12:10 AM UTC-5 weste...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Eric, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Here's my Brompton in it's natural element -  multi-modal transport.   
>>>>>> I'm 6'7" tall and ride 65-68 cm road bikes, and the Brompton with the 
>>>>>> telescoping seat post and the H bars works well for me. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Julian Westerhout
>>>>>> Bloomington, IL 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 6:56:19 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>>>>>>> Anyone have a picture/experience of a Brompton set up for a taller 
>>>>>>> (~6’3”) rider? Asking for a friend. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ash,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A Bosco can be done if you can make the reach and folded math work. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The clamp is 25.4 and the mast folds down so the reach-back juts away 
>>>>>>>> from the bike. You'd have a bigger folded footprint but still crazy 
>>>>>>>> compact relative to storing or transporting a full-size bike. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The ETT is about 60cm with no stem reach. You'd have the reach to the 
>>>>>>>> flat part of the bar in the same range as stock Brom bars but the rest 
>>>>>>>> is coming WAY back. You'll never sit up any straighter on a bicycle 
>>>>>>>> than holding the ends of a Bosco on a Brompton! 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 3:45:43 PM UTC-7 Ashwath Akirekadu 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Nice to see all those cute pictures!
>>>>>>>>>

Re: [RBW] Bring Out The Brompton!

[J L]

Dominic,

Hahaha. These are a high ticket item. 

Is your personal bike? Is the clearance any different than with the Brompton 
plastic ones? 

Jason

> On Aug 4, 2021, at 3:51 PM, Dominic Ryan  wrote:
> 
> 
> For those of you that like to waste money on Brompton parts, I recommend some 
> Honjo fenders!
> 
>  
> 
>> On Wed, 4 Aug 2021, 23:01 Minh,  wrote:
>> great thread and welcome to the club jason.  mine is similiar to yours when 
>> i got it.  be prepared for the tinker bug!  i turned my fender model into a 
>> rack one with a rack and new fender.   it makes push cart mode much more 
>> stable.  
>> i also added a dyno front wheel and light.  
>> 
>> they are useful in a way that is very different from a full size bike.  
>> though riding here in nyc can be a bit hectic with them!
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 8:22:39 AM UTC-4 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I picked up the Grateful Red rear LED USB light, it comes with a couple of 
>>> mounting options, one of which is literally an exact fit for the Brompton 
>>> rear reflector bracket!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 7:12:10 AM UTC-5 weste...@gmail.com wrote:
 Eric, 
 
 Here's my Brompton in it's natural element -  multi-modal transport.   I'm 
 6'7" tall and ride 65-68 cm road bikes, and the Brompton with the 
 telescoping seat post and the H bars works well for me. 
 
 Julian Westerhout
 Bloomington, IL 
 
> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 6:56:19 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
> Anyone have a picture/experience of a Brompton set up for a taller 
> (~6’3”) rider? Asking for a friend. 
> 
>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>> Ash,
>> 
>> A Bosco can be done if you can make the reach and folded math work. 
>> 
>> The clamp is 25.4 and the mast folds down so the reach-back juts away 
>> from the bike. You'd have a bigger folded footprint but still crazy 
>> compact relative to storing or transporting a full-size bike. 
>> 
>> The ETT is about 60cm with no stem reach. You'd have the reach to the 
>> flat part of the bar in the same range as stock Brom bars but the rest 
>> is coming WAY back. You'll never sit up any straighter on a bicycle than 
>> holding the ends of a Bosco on a Brompton! 
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 3:45:43 PM UTC-7 Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>>> Nice to see all those cute pictures!
>>> 
>>> Wondering if the Bosco bar would work for a Brompton.  
>>> 
>>> Brompton is in my N+1 list, but Bosco is a must.
 On Tuesday, 3 August 2021 at 11:28:15 UTC-7 Rick Thompson wrote:
 That is a Wald 582 folding metal basket, with a Trigo adapter plate 
 modified to fit it to the carrier block. It is not light, but nothing 
 on mine is...
 
 Mine came as the "raw lacquer", but from the factory it is really a 
 paint color and not just raw metal with lacquer over. I am using metal 
 bluing with varnish over as touch up, that is close to the color.
 
> On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 6:38:33 AM UTC-7 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> Rick: which basket is that? Aliexpress & typing "brompton + titanium" 
> certainly brings up some lovely items too.
> 
> I'm thinking of doing a strip down to raw metal & lacquer over the 
> winter as I love that look.
> 
>> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 7:01:20 PM UTC-5 Rick Thompson wrote:
>> Yes, but Bromptons are for shopping!
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ricks_boats/50409330646/in/album-72157715050533447/lightbox/
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ricks_boats/50597181768/in/album-72157715050533447/lightbox/
>> 
>>> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 10:45:59 AM UTC-7 Bill Gibson wrote:
>>> Look at used cameras from KEH Camera. Any price point you want. 
>>> Costco used to sell Nikon D3500 kits with two lenses, but I don't 
>>> see it online right now, so check what KEH has. Canon EOS at any 
>>> price or resolution you want to pay for. Some instructors will 
>>> demand a certain number of pixels, but any Nikon or Canon dslr will 
>>> be serviceable to begin with , and KEH checks them out, warrants 
>>> them, and will buy them back. Also, can rent fancy stuff at 
>>> Lensrentals.com
>>> 
>>> 
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 4:23 PM Patrick Moore  
> wrote:
> .
> 
> Oh, speaking of expenses: daughter needs a DSLR (digital SLR) 
> minimally good enough for "art projects," which means relatively 
> hi res photos and manual adjustment of shutter speed, aperture, 
> and lighting (did I get those right?). Someone said Costco has 
> good deals. Suggestions? Not asking for donations, just 

[RBW] FS Phil Wood F/Fr track hubs

[J L]

Hello group,

Anyone have a single speed project want some hew high bling hubs? 

I have a set if silver 32h phil wood track hubs, flip flop fixed/free 120/100 
spacing with the phil wood lock ring up for grabs. Phil Wood must be in between 
production runs because they are sold out on these and have been for a while. 

Bonus positive about these is that the hubs have no drop out rests so when one 
removes the bolts wheels built with phil wood track hubs can drop out straight 
down. This allows for a single speed / fixed drive train with perfect fender 
line. I think that is a huge upgrade.

$400 obo shipped inside usa. 
Please reply offlist

Cheers
Jason
SF, CA

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[RBW] 22.2 interrupter levers?

[J L]

Hello all,

Do interrupter style brake levers exist for 22.2 bars (standard mtb bars)?

I imagine having an tosco, losco, or bosco bars with brake levers all the way 
back for upright ridding and a second set near the stem for the occasional long 
and low position might be nice.

Jason
SFCA

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Re: [RBW] ikea bag for brompton?i helped my friend tom find and buy a brompton here in bellingham.the seller mentioned an ikea tyvec bag which people use as a carry onto the airplane baganyone know th

[J L]

Bo,

I use the Dimpa bag. Here is a pick from online.



Jason

> On Jul 20, 2021, at 3:02 PM, bo richardson  wrote:
> 
> and the seller mentioned an ikea tyvec bag which people use to carry 
> bromptons onto planes
> abyone know the size or name of the bag?
> tips?
> 
> thanks
> bo
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Re: [RBW] brompton in airports and airlines

[J L]

Bo,

This depends so much on the airline and the staff. That said, I have more than 
once seen a brompton stashed in the overhead bin, no bag or anything. 

I would stash mine in a tyvek bag. As long as it fits the size requirements for 
carry on it should be alright. 

Jason

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 11:00 AM, bo richardson  wrote:
> 
> what do airlines typically do about bromptons
> i intend to travel to europe on condor
> if i take my brompton will they accept it in a ikea tyvec bag?
> i have the brompton travel case with wheels
> but it is heavy and  bulky
> and a sea anchor after i arrive.
> 
> Or does one build a cardboard box around it?
> 
> Thoughts experiences advice
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Bo
> Bellingham
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[RBW] Wtb Paul motolite and levers

[J L]

WTB a set of paul motolite brakes. Anyone have a set that needs a home? Would 
be nice to have some compact love levers with those too.

Contact offlist if you can, please and thank you.

Jason
SFCA

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Re: [RBW] Re: 50.4 crankset opinions: VeloOrange, SUNXCD, Grand Bois

[J L]

Just a point of clarity here:

Rene Herse and Grand Bois are two distinct companies (RH did sell Grand Bois 
products in the past) 

Grand Bois sell SUNXCD cranks and compatible rings. 

> On Jun 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, 'Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> oops, its only 3x cranks not 4x like it suggests above. Should be:
> 
> Velo Orange Grand Cru, vs SUNXCD vs Rene Herse Grand Bois
> 
>> On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 3:53:11 PM UTC-7 Will Horton wrote:
>> 
>> Looking at a fancy crankset to put on my Sam.
>> 
>> What are folks opinions of these models that are currently available for 
>> purchase?
>> 
>> Velo Orange vs Grand Cru, vs SUNXCD vs Rene Herse Grand Bois
>> 
>> If you could choose between these, which would you go with? Cost is 
>> definitely a factor obviously but its also an investment and I am looking 
>> for what works best without being overkill. Which is the best made and has 
>> the best finish, whose rings perform best? Best bang for the buck?
>> 
>> Bonus points: for the SUNXCD Clover leaf vs standard 6 arm TA rings
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Re: [RBW] Sam sizing advice

[J L]

Will,

I expect you are going to get many of the same responses so i’ll keep mine 
brief.

1) The PBH listings are guidelines. 82pbh should be fine on that bike.
2) Call Riv HQ and talk to them about your size concerns they are great to talk 
to.
3) We are all built different and yet 82cm PBH at 5’11” seems quite short in 
the legs. I suspect you have under measured. Measure again and keep pulling up 
as if you are going to lift yourself off the ground. I expect you will find 
another CM or two of PBH has been there all along. 

Cheers
Jason
SFCA

> On Apr 23, 2021, at 5:42 PM, 'Will Horton' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am 5'11" on a good day. My PBH is 82CM. 
> 
> I really want a Sam but am not overly enthusiastic about running 650B wheels 
> and tires. Would really prefer 700C. I have lots of parts on hand and all of 
> it is 700C.
> 
> The challenge is that the 54cm Sam they sell these days requires minimum PBH 
> of 83CM, if I go down to a 51cm Sam, they take 650B wheels.
> 
> Did Riv ever make a smaller Sam that is compatible with my 82PBH that was 
> 700c?
> 
> Is there another model similar to the Sam that fits my requirements?
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[RBW] Help with shipping from SF bay?

[J L]

Hello all,

I have a bike frame and fork that I want to send out of state and I don’t 
currently the capacity to handle the shipping portion. Is there anyone in San 
Francisco that is open to picking up the bike frame from me boxing it, and then 
shipping it to another list member? In this scenario I’ll gladly pay you for 
your time and the new owner will pay you to cover the shipping.

LMK offlist.

Jason in SF

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[RBW] FS BDB Pelican Touring frame 54cm

[J L]

Hello Rivs,

There may be some interest here in this bike frame and fork pick up in San 
Francisco. $500 obo

Contact me offline for pics or offer.

Tig welded 2010 frame designed in San Francisco by Box Dog BIkes.

Size 54 (56cm C-T seat tube and 56cm top tube)
Standard diameter tubing, but not ultra light, camping loads and touring no 
problem.
73° st and ht angles
700c x 38+ fit easily with fenders
Cantilever or v brakes
Comes with threaded chris king headset installed.

Pretty blue powercoat - shows signs of age. 

I have the full bike worth of parts including racks and canvas bags, dyno hub, 
phil wood etc but typically have better luck selling frames on their own. 

Thanks all! 


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Re: [RBW] WTB: Saluki, 54cm or thereabouts

[J L]

As a former Saluki owner I feel conflicted about weighing in here. That said, 

My $.02 - The bikes are aesthetically top notch. They have so many well 
considered details. Functionally, the earlier model with canti-lever brake 
posts is a must have. That model allows for slightly bigger tires with fenders, 
and easier front rack mounting.

Jason

> On Jan 27, 2021, at 9:21 PM, Applegate  wrote:
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> Hello Bunchpeople,
> 
> I'm here on a mission to help a friend find a 54cm Saluki—her dream bike. I 
> will state up front that I do recognize:
> we're in search of bit of a rare bird
> the AHH took over for the Saluki
> one Robert Blunt, of Pennington, NJ seems to be in the final stage of 
> obtaining the only presently known Saluki listing (in the 54 spec, no less)
> Nonetheless, I thought this group would be the best hope for tracking down a 
> solution. In the even that an appropriately sized Homer could take its place, 
> what do we think would be the likelihood of and the process for acquiring 
> Saluki decals and headbadge?
> 
> Thank you in advance!
> Alex Applegate
> Berkeley, CA
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Re: [RBW] Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[J L]

A couple of notes here...

>From the picture it doesn’t LOOK like this bike is too big. I don’t see any 
>outlandish attempts to make it fit, super short stem or seat very low and 
>forward, for example. You can decide for yourself, but if you are on the 
>fence, my two cents are that the bike is bigger by the numbers than you would 
>expect, given how well it fits, but it does fit well.

When you install new tires check the tire pressure. You might be surprised are 
how much difference that makes. The added weight of the pipe could be giving 
you the same effect that lower tire pressure. 

Also I just want to point out that it is a very respectably weird thing to see 
a big pipe and decide to strap it to your bike. :)  Did I miss something in 
your original post? What was the logic sequence there?

Jason
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[RBW] WTB - QB / SO 56

[J L]

Hello RBW,

Anyone have a spare 56cm quick beam or simple one floating ‘round? I would like 
to get back into some fixed gear riding. 

Let me know offlist if possible. Thanks

Jason
SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick

[J L]

I seem to remember Patrick’s advocacy of Homeopathy causing a stir among 
members. I don’t think there was any specific incident that lead to him 
dropping off but I’m not so much in the know. From what I gather Patrick has a 
full life outside of this list and made the choice to stop participating, not 
out if spite or due to ill will of others. He has simply decided to have 
different conversations with other people.

Jason

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Re: [RBW] Old school 10 speed

[J L]

Sam,

I bet the larger (correct) frame size puts you in a better position for how you 
ride. I’m with you, a bike doesn’t need modern bells and whistles to ride well. 

Jason 
SF,CA

> On Nov 11, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Sam Perez  wrote:
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> 
> My old school 10 speed bike ( allthough definitely too big for me) rides 
> better than some modern bikes. I don't know of it's the frame geometry or 
> components.  With a 42 up front and maybe 28 in the back i claimed hills with 
> less perceivable effort... Could it be the frame? Or the 10 speed? It weighs 
> as much as a fully fendered custom rando bike with bells and whistles. 
> 
> Any one weigh in on why my old 10 speed seems to glide? 
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[RBW] Weirdest Rivendell ideas?

[J L]

Remember Foss tubes? I like that Riv has always tried to be out of the box. 
Stick shifting?

What are some of the other head scratcher ideas and products from yesteryear? 
None of them have ever been dumb.

This is in praise of creative thinking and taking chances.

Cheers
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Re: [RBW] silver shifter slip under load

[J L]

Some derailers have a stronger return spring than others. I would put it 
further down the list, though. 

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Re: [RBW] Sellers, post your full emails

[J L]

This IS a topic that comes up frequently and it has me looking at my own use 
case. I am an email exclusive user and here are some thoughts on why that is.

I came to this group as an extension of another group that used to function as 
a listserv. I have just kept up with that email to post format.

I use a mail client, a program that collects and sorts my email from multiple 
email addresses. To read and send email I launch the program and do what I need 
to do. That is to say I do not get email by directing a web browser to 
www.yahoo or www.gmail or whatever. I imagine that if I did read email on a web 
browser there are only a few more steps to access google groups (with a gmail 
address), as I do not, it seems like very many steps. 

I have more than one email address. I bet I have more than a score of email 
addresses. Not only does my mail client sort mail in many ways, I also have 
several accounts that I can interact with or ignore as I see fit. I can imagine 
a few reasons that others may not want multiple addresses (even work and 
personal) and there is some learning and time involved in setting up a mail 
client. 

IMHO the culture of this list is one of active discussion topics. A topic 
typically lasts a few days to a few weeks. Others have expressed an interest in 
search and browse functions when framing google groups as a forum. I check the 
group emails every few days and read or share my opinion. If I miss a topic I 
don’t mind so much because it is likely the group has moved on so to speak. I 
can certainly imagine someone new to the group being excited about old and new 
topics equally. A forum style interface allows for access to that that wider 
array of posts.  

Jason
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB 56 QB

[J L]

Yes. A SO would work. 

> On Aug 25, 2020, at 12:55 PM, ted  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just QB or QB/SO?
> 
>> On Thursday, August 20, 2020 at 4:37:28 PM UTC-7, J L wrote:
>> Anyone sitting on a size 56 Quickbeam that needs a new home? Let me know 
>> offlist because I would really like to but it. 
>> 
>> Jason
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[RBW] 58 quickbeam on SF CL

[J L]

There is a sweet deal of a green Quickbeam on SF craigslist. The owner says it 
is a 58 but isn't certain. It should be 58cm center of BB to top of seat lug. 
Looks like it to me. 

I found this on my quest for a 56. Anyone want to size up from a 56 to a 58? 

Cheers
Jason

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[RBW] WTB 56 QB

[J L]

Anyone sitting on a size 56 Quickbeam that needs a new home? Let me know 
offlist because I would really like to but it. 

Jason

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell has the almost perfect crankset for me

[J L]

Just for a point of clarity, Rivendell sells a triple crank with a chain guard 
and two rings (middle and granny) in a couple of configurations. They do not 
sell a sub-compact double. Some of the other cranks mentioned here are doubles 
that allow small ring (outer and inner) combinations. 

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Re: [RBW] Joe's Custom

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Bombadil??? Pics pics.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Converting a Legolas from threadless to threaded/quill

[J L]

Tom,

If you want the aesthetic of a quill stem the best and safest way to achieve 
that is to replace the fork with a threaded one, and a threaded headset. 

There are other ways to use a quill stem or get a threaded steerer but they all 
come with cost, difficulty, and various levels of safety concerns.

If you truly just want higher bars there are many threadless stems that will 
get you there. 

There is another thing to suggest as well. Have you considered trying to trade 
for a size bigger? A larger frame will put the bars higher relative to the 
saddle. Ive witnesses a dozen or so swaps like that happen.
Jason

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

[J L]

Ben,

As far as I know all phil wood bolt on hubs allow this. Any hub brand where the 
bolt provides the “shelf” that the dropout rests on will work the same. With 
the bolts removed all the way the hub is only as wide and the hub flange and it 
can drop out. 

Not CS but also a fan of this phil wood feature because I like fenders

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Benjamin L. Kelley  
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> 
> Is this feature dependent on the model or do all Phil track hubs do this?
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:16 AM Clayton Scott  wrote:
>> Phil wood hubs are your friend if you use febders with horizontal dropouts. 
>> You can remove the bolt all the way and the wheel just drops out.
>> 
>> Clayton Scott 
>> HBG, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are there different sizes of 1" threaded headset?

[J L]

Just to swing it over to Rivendell. The Legolas from 10+ years ago and the 
Rodeo had always been a available in 1 inch threadless options. It is a good 
way for those bicycle models to have compatibility with “modern” components and 
aesthetic. Threadless stems in 1 inch and 1 1/8 inch fit with only a commonly 
found shim needed. As we all know Rivendell has their own fork crowns cast and 
typically use 1inch threaded steerers. A 1 inch threadless steerer fits the 
same crown making it an easy swap when placing orders with the builder. 
That is a common reason other makers have used 1 inch threadless steerers, they 
fit the same for crowns and head tubes as 1 inch threaded. 
They are also independent of threading standards (french, raleigh, english, 
etc) so eplacement forks with different properties (rake, or braze ons for 
example) can be made and are modular. 
Some “popularity” is also due to aesthetics. 
Some want stems that have a removable faceplate, more commonly used on 
threadless, so they opt for that style steerer.

To answer the OP question, there are many different sizes of 1 inch headsets. 
Threaded and threadless both come in two different crown race sizes. Beyond 
that, there are differences in bearings, stack height, and thread style that 
need to be considered. 

J

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Re: [RBW] The Quickbeam Rides Again!

[J L]

This looks sweet! I’m glad everything worked out with the repairs. That BB 
removal trick sounds very clever. 

Jason

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[J L]

Ann,

I think the bolt fix you did a year ago is keen!  Thank you for posting about 
this. If I have to do a seat post bolt repair in the wild I will know to look 
for a high grade bolt. Sorry yours only worked for a year, glad to hear you 
were not hurt.

A B67 has all kinds of leverage from three sides and built in kinetic spring 
energy. Add in some poor luck and I can see how this might end up with a bolt 
sheering off.

Jason

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> Dave:
> 
> Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 250 
> Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.
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Re: [RBW] 50cm Atlantis. 650b

[J L]

Joel,

Why not a step through frame like the Clem Smith L, Clemintine, or upcoming 
Platapus? Those bike models are not limited in use, have low stand over, and 
ability to get bars high as you need.

Jason 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

[J L]

Patrick,

First off, great to hear that they did a good job. I’m sure others will have 
suggestions here. Without seeing the bike it is hard to say. My intuition tells 
me it is in the right place to - 

A: ward off spray coming off the top of the wheel. There can still be 
significant material leaving the wheel between 12 and 2 oclock, as well as 
traveling up the inside of the fender. Add in forward momentum and both can and 
up hitting the rider. 

and 

B: prevent the fender from catching on curbs, rocks, roots, etc when the front 
wheel drops down past them. 

Your fender may, or may not need the additional stay in the front, or 
attachment to a rack if you use one. 

You might consider adding a long flexible mudflap onto the bottom of the fender 
if you desire more coverage there. A flexible flap would not undo the work of A 
or B.

Best of luck!
Jason

> On Jul 8, 2020, at 12:31 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> 
> H. My wife just picked up my now fendered Quickbeam. It looks great, 
> except they installed the front fender so it sticks out in the front about 5" 
> too far forward. I have the additional stay to add myself. Will this be 
> adiquate? Or do I need to rotate the fender back, to increase coverage lower 
> in the back of the front wheel and minimize the jounce on the front?
> 
> With abandon,
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[RBW] Most modified?

[J L]

One of the things I like about Rivendell is their encouragement of 
individualized setups. What are some examples of permanently modified Riv bikes 
that you all have had, or ridden, or seen? I can think of a few examples.

Anyone have disc tabs on an Atlantis or Appaloosa? 

Anyone weld on a child seat mount? 

Belt drive modification for IGH?

Homebrew tandem? 


Etc. 

Jason
SF Bay Area

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Re: [RBW] Rene Herse Fender Install for QB

[J L]

Patrick,

The fenders need to be drilled before mounting.

Jason

> On Jun 9, 2020, at 3:26 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
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> These are on the list to do in the near future. However, if I have to get 
> into metal drilling or cutting, I'm going to need to make arrangements for 
> someone to help/do the install.
> 
> What non-standard issues will I run into installing these:
> https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/fenders/rene-herse-smooth-fenders-700c-for-48-52-mm-tires-h80-700c/
> on a 66cm silver (final run) QB?
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Tell me about WTC extra long b screws

[J L]

Conway,

I don’t know anything specific about the WTC extra long B screw but I have 
often installed a B screw from the bottom up. The head of the screw sticks out 
and can catch that b screw shelf. I just guess at the length needed and this 
often involves pulling the RD off the bike in order to install the screw.

Trial and error + a measurement ahead of time (x was too short so It should 
stick out more that x) makes this a quick, but not immediate fix. 

Hope that helps.

Jason

> On Jun 8, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Conway Bennett  
> wrote:
> 
> For context I have a deore 9 speed rear derailer on my wife's Roscoe Bubbe 
> mixte that used to shift across a sunrace 9 speed cassette with a 42t low 
> gear.  Then it stopped.
> 
> I checked the cable tension and adjusted the limit screws but no dice.  I 
> know it should not have worked in the first place so I bought a WTC extra 
> long b screw.  The way that the extra long b screw changed geometry there is 
> no way it will make contact with the derailer tab.
> 
> With that, the standard b screw barely makes contact with the derailer tab 
> when fully engaged.
> 
> What am I missing here?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> - Conway
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB quickbeam or simple one

[J L]

Eyelet update. 

Green no.
Orange yes.
Grey yes.

Was there only one run of each? 

> On May 31, 2020, at 12:01 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
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> Eyelets on fork below brakes:
> 
> Not on the original greens, not sure if any orange Quickbeams showed up with 
> them. The final silver had them. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB quickbeam or simple one

[J L]

I’m in the bay area and would love to take ownership of a 56 quickbeam, or a 
54. 

Did they all have eyelets on the front of the fork under the bake posts?

Jason

> On May 31, 2020, at 9:57 AM, ted  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hang in there. They seem to go in spurts, so nothing now definitely doesn't 
> mean never. 
> I speculate that being hard to replace hinders folks inclination to decide to 
> sell theirs. But when they see one offered, they think maybe I should sell 
> mine too.
> 
>> On Sunday, May 31, 2020 at 9:36:06 AM UTC-7, Andrew Huston wrote:
>> I’m definitely planning on holding out for a QB. I just need to be patient.
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Re: [RBW] Silver shifter upkeep

[J L]

The backing plate is still there but this could have been what happened to 
loosen it all up inside. Good suggestion.

Jason

> On May 18, 2020, at 5:32 AM, Ginz  wrote:
> 
> I once destroyed one by sneaking the shifter off without loosening the cable 
> when swapping brake levers. The metal plate that covers the ratchet came 
> loose and it was ruined.  Is that what’s happening in there? They don’t 
> necessarily last forever, unfortunately
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[RBW] Silver shifter upkeep

[J L]

Hello everyone,

I have had a few sets of silver shifter #1. Every now and then one of them has 
excessive play in the internals. Thicker washers don't help. Tightening it 
doesn't help. Does anyone have a trick for these to help adjust the tolerance? 
It feels as if the internals are clamped tight but the level body can still be 
wiggled side to aide with the slightest touch. Worn paul internally? 

I have tons of washers, square hole washers, and several sets of shifters so 
I’m open to try just about anything. If there Isn't a fix I’m not to sad about 
it.

Thanks
Jason
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Re: [RBW] PSA: 3 Rivendells for sale on CL

[J L]

I like your enthusiasm Joe!!

Bend is a beautiful place, party because it is 6 hours away from anywhere else. 

I’ll see what the seller says on the phone. 

Jason

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
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> Oh man, I saw it. Check RC Nute for help, or John Bennett. Or maybe you'll 
> get lucky and the seller will ship. That's a rare beast in that condition, 
> sheesh! 
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Re: [RBW] PSA: 3 Rivendells for sale on CL

[J L]

I’ve always liked retro bikes. ;) 

Green is the best color option, tied with orange and light grey. 

I haven't even called the seller yet so I may not need assistance but these are 
rare beasts... err bushes.

Jason

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
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> Get that Quickbeam, Jason!
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Re: [RBW] PSA: 3 Rivendells for sale on CL

[J L]

Is there anyone here in the sisters / bend area that can assist in a collect 
and ship on that quickbeam to SF? Just checking in advance.  Contact me offlist 
if possible.

Jason
> On Apr 29, 2020, at 1:01 PM, JAS  wrote:
> 
> 
> PSA:  I have noticed three Rivendell bikes on Craigslist (Seattle & Portland) 
> lately and thought somebody here might be looking for one; I have no 
> association with the sellers.
> 
> 55 Sam  (Seattle)
> 58 Sam  (Seattle) 
> 54 Quickbeam  (Portland/Bend)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

[J L]

I like this attitude. There is no right of wrong. 

One tip I have learned from this thread was to plan for my water consumption. 
That was the sort of no brainer thing that I never considered. I was happy to 
learn from someone else’s experience. 

Jason


> On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Jeffrey Arita  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello Jason,
> 
> IMHO cyclo-touring/bikepacking or whatever you want to call it, there is no 
> right or wrong.  I think the key is just to get out there.  I agree, that 
> first step is the hardest.  One caveat though: If you do go out, you may 
> never want to come back ;)
> 
> I attached a pic of my rig for the GDMBR.  My wife's bike was eerily similar. 
>  This was Summer 2017.  Again, there is no right or wrong.  We encountered a 
> guy riding an older bike in which he attached 5-gallon plastic buckets as his 
> panniers (covered in plastic wrap for waterproofing).  It worked for him.
> 
> Finally: Most people will attest that when one carries this much stuff you 
> can go for 1 night, 1 week, or 1 month (depending upon the weather of course).
> 
> Good luck and have fun!
> 
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 6:41:08 PM UTC-7, J L wrote:
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping duty. Any sage 
>> advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can ride out from the house, 
>> do one or two overnights, and ride home. 
>> 
>> Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a backpack 
>> or bike basket and going. 
>> 
>> Jason 
>> SF, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

[J L]

Thanks! 

> On Apr 20, 2020, at 11:54 PM, Craig Montgomery  wrote:
> 
> 
> Here's a fun one for you Jason. From the master himself: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny81vcxTZQk 
> 
> Ian always said what you take for the weekend is the same as what you take 
> around the world. The only difference is the amount of food and water. Of 
> course when he said it we didn't have satellite weather like now. So you had 
> to be prepared for anything and everything. Have been looking for a stove 
> like that but they're pretty pricey now.
> 
> Craig in Tucson, rereading my "Into the Remote Places" 
> 
>> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 6:41:08 PM UTC-7, J L wrote:
>> Hello all, 
>> 
>> I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping duty. Any sage 
>> advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can ride out from the house, 
>> do one or two overnights, and ride home. 
>> 
>> Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a backpack 
>> or bike basket and going. 
>> 
>> Jason 
>> SF, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

[J L]

This thread is super helpful everyone. Keep the ideas and experiences coming if 
you have them.

Jason

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[RBW] Camping bikes

[J L]

Hello all,

I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping duty. Any sage 
advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can ride out from the house, do 
one or two overnights, and ride home.

Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a backpack or 
bike basket and going. 

Jason
SF, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 66 or 68cm Quickbeam frame set

[J L]

All of these failures are unfortunate.

There is something about the QB though. Anyone have a 54 hanging around that 
needs a home? BB intact please! :)

I keep trying to build up a single speed with 650bx48 road tires and similar 
sized tiny knobs. It keeps getting pushed to the back of the build list though. 

It still wouldn't be a Quickbeam, though. 

Jason
SF,CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[J L]

Dynasys / 11s / etc

My experience tells me these levers will not pair well with a Dynasys or 11s 
RD. In fact, I think the Silver 1 shifters probably offer better adjustability 
when used as downtube shifters. I use those older style silvers to friction 
shift a 10s rear cluster on one bike and the levels require a comically light 
touch to shift. They shift great but I feel like I’m stirring a my tea with a 
tiny spoon. (This is a fun thing and makes me smile every time. Remember bike 
riding was fun?!) 

Fear not - months back on the riv blog they posted a bike hike to effectively 
increase the diameter of the level pully. They describe clamping a small 
plastic tube on the cable just where it exits the lever. Try this with the 
Silver2 shifter! The bike hack is a thing that anyone can do with hand tools. 

Side note - those mismatched levers that VO sells are also jarring to me. I 
like a mix of symmetry and wabi sabi on my bikes but that one big level one 
small lever looks off. Someone could pay a machinist to build a matching left 
hand / front lever and end up with a visually matching set. Couldn’t they? 

Jason
SF,CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

[J L]

I stand corrected. Thanks Christian! :) 

For added context I prefer to ride a bike with as little stand over clearance 
as possible, sometimes negative clearance.  I actually rounded up my estimate 
thinking others might prefer more room. 

-J

> On Oct 25, 2019, at 11:23 AM, christian poppell  wrote:
> 
> As someone who has a 90cm PBH, I found the 65cm AHH to be a touch large. Riv 
> suggests PBH of around 92-94cm for the MUSA AHH 
> 
> https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/files/Rivendell-2017-Sizing-Chart.png?13527169454130894933
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> Berkeley, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

[J L]

John G wrote “ PBH, or saddle height?”

Thanks for the clarifying question. This bike should fit someone with an 87-90 
PBH. I say this estimate based on experience and knowledge of the fit for 
Rivendell bikes on this era. I’m sure there is a geometry chart someplace as 
well. A person outside of that size range may find a way to fit it and enjoy 
the ride as well. 

IIRC The AHH was made as large as a (rare) 72cm frame. So this big bike isn’t 
even the biggest. That said, other factors influence fit, shoe choice, 
flexibility, aesthetics, etc. just to name a variety. 

This particular bike is about 10cm too big for me, ha!, but there might be some 
tall folks who want a nice riding road bike with room for big tires and classic 
looks.

Cheers
Jason

> On Oct 25, 2019, at 10:45 AM, John G.  wrote:
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> 88-ish PBH, or saddle height?
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell A. Homer Hilsen 65cm (MUSA), f//f/h

[J L]

For those who are not sure about clicking a link to view pics. This is a rare 
single top tube model in light blue with a cream head tube. A very nice looking 
bike for someone with an 88 ish PBH. 


> On Oct 25, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
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> Not my size but that's a nice frame someone should buy. Can you maybe do new 
> pics in brighter light? The ones you have really underplay how sharp that 
> color looks in real life. 
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Re: [RBW] FS. Rivendell Quickbeam and Bridgestone MB-1 (Not Mine)

[J L]

If we are placing orders. I’ll take a grey 54cm. 

> On Aug 10, 2019, at 3:04 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
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> Ack, that two strikes! I'm looking for orange, too, in 54cm. Hook me up, 
> sellers! 
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[RBW] WTT NFE size medium

[J L]

Hello all,

Anyone want to try disc brakes? I did and I don’t love it. Trade you my medium 
NFE frame and fork for... 54-56 size (80-82ish stand over frame).

I have some extras to add in.

Happy to sell for an affordable price as well. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell frame would you resurrect?

[J L]

Im with Joe - The Quickbeam. If I had money to buy a Rivendell custom I would 
ask for a Quickbeam. 

Jason

> On Jul 16, 2019, at 10:28 PM, S  wrote:
> 
> Legolas.
> 
>> On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 5:24:01 PM UTC-7, John G. wrote:
>> The recent Bombadil sightings here and on Instagram have me thinking of all 
>> the Rivendell frames I wanted and never purchased. So, let’s play (or 
>> replay) the Rivendell Resurrection game: pick one discontinued frame you 
>> would like to see back in production. If you really, really wanna name a 
>> MUSA version of a current MIT frame, I guess that’s ok. 
>> 
>> Disclaimer: this is only intended to wax nostalgic at the ones that got 
>> away. I’m not here to criticize the current lineup. 
>> 
>> My vote: the Legolas!
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[RBW] FS NFE Medium (frame set)

[J L]

I forgot to post a price. 

$1333 shipped inside the usa

Or considerably less for local pick up in san francisco.

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[RBW] FS NFE Medium (frame set)

[J L]

Hello all,

For those who don’t yet know, NFE stands for National Forest Explorer and it is 
a bikepacking / gravel / dirt randonneur frame built by Elephant Bikes in 
spokane. Check out their website for more details. I thought there might be 
some crossover in fans here. 

Frame details -
Size medium (54-56ish)
Forest service green
IS disc mounts
135/100 spacing
Fits 650b x 48 or 559 x 2.25 tires

Further details:
I tried a disc brake bike and it wasn't revolutionary for me. Now i’m selling 
the frame and fork (with headset) so I can put the money away and buy a 54cm 
quickbeam another classic riv as soon as one of these rare specimens pops up 
for sale. 
The 56cm single speeds are too big and the quickbeam is one bike I should have 
never sold. 

Pics if you want them... 

Contact offlist please

Cheers
Jason
San Francisco

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam angled dropouts - first principles?

[J L]

One thing that I never understood about the design Riv ended up with is 
compensating for the variable angles as a result of the wheel change. It 
appears with their angled dropout* design a wheel closer to the seat tube 
steepens the ST and HT angle while a wheel farther away from the seat tube 
would slacken them. 

I road a QB for a while and regretfully sold it. It was a great bike. I didn't 
slide the wheel though

*all dropouts obviously had a measurement of their angle. In this context we 
all know what we all mean :)

JL
sf, Ca


> On Feb 7, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
> 
> Max - The Fitz custom is going to be only tangentially "Matt Chester-ish" and 
> will include influences from every bike I've owned in the last 20 years. 
> Here's the BikeCad drawing (before the dropout angle change). The biggest 
> inputs are 60mm G-One tires and a 170mm dropper post. Planning for future 
> singlespeedability is just a nice-to-have, like dynamo wiring. "As long as 
> it's custom, why not get exactly what I want?"
> 
> Jeremy - Thank you! I passed your info along to John. 
> 
> 
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
>  
> 
>> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:50:40 AM UTC-8, Max S wrote:
>> Very curious to find out how this turns out -- mainly in how a builder 
>> executes a riff on the Matt Chester concepts... I'm contemplating a bike 
>> like that in the near future, so please post photos when it's done! 
>> 
>> - Max "it's good to have projects" 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:53:52 AM UTC+2, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>> I'm having a custom bike built, and it will have slider dropouts for 
>>> singlespeed use. 
>>> I want the builder to angle the dropouts like my Quickbeam's, so I can 
>>> change the gears without adjusting the brake shoe height or angle. 
>>> 
>>> The Quickbeam dropouts are angled ~20* relative to the ground, and about 
>>> 10* relative to the stay. 
>>> The dropout slot angle ALSO looks like it is parallel to the brake shoes. 
>>> To my mind, this is the key fact. Is it? 
>>> 
>>> The new bike's seat stay angle is more acute than the QB's, and its BB is 
>>> lower. Do the relative angles not really matter, as long as the dropout 
>>> slot is parallel to the brake shoe angle?
>>> 
>>> Philip
>>> Santa Rosa, CA 
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Re: [RBW] WTB 54 quickbeam

[J L]

Thanks for the distinction Ted. I must have confused something and had the SO 
correctly on my no thanks list, but for the wrong reason.


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> Just FYI the SO ended up being canti / v brake.
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[RBW] WTB 54 quickbeam

[J L]

Maybe a longshot but does anyone have a size 54 quickbeam sitting around? And 
can it be grey? 

A 56 is too large thank you and I want the cantilever brakes so an SO is not my 
fancy either.

I need a new commute bike and until I find another Bridgestone 56 CBO or CB1 
this is what I'm after. 

Thanks, :) 
Jason
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto choco bars

[J L]

Hello all,

I want to try out the Chocobar. I think it has the lease rise and least forward 
extension of all the Albatross like bars. 

Does anyone have one of these sitting around that they want to part with? 

Let’s chat offlist.
Jason
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Re: [RBW] Re: Billie bar / choco bar

[J L]

Jeffery,

Thanks for the insight and picture reference! 

Jason

> On Oct 3, 2018, at 5:10 PM, 'jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't ride these bars flipped downward but here's a few observations:
> 
> I've been riding a Choco with an old school style Ritchy MTB stem since mid 
> 2016 -- it's got an approx 15 degree rise and 130 length. That's longer than 
> normal length for me but works for the Choco because I like to stretch out 
> onto the front "hook" where the bar bends back toward you and the Choco 
> doesn't have the forward extension like an Alba. My other primary hand 
> position ends up on top of the brake lever clamp, which, isn't so bad as the 
> clamp itself is pretty low in profile -- but it's been bugging me a bit. I do 
> like the cool factor of the Ritchy MTB stem (it matches my Nitto/Ritchy 
> seatpost and brake levers) but 130 does put the bar out over my basket a bit 
> more than I'd like. 
> 
> So I just picked up a Billie here on the list and plan on pairing with a 
> Ritchy/Nitto 90 degree x 110 stem. The Billie has the forward hook extension 
> to get me the same stretched position but with a shorter stem that won't 
> crowd man basket and it has a little more rise than the Choco so I don't need 
> rise in the stem itself. Lately, I'm loving the look and usefulness of 90 
> degree stem angles on pretty much all my bikes (check out those SimWorks 
> Getting  Hungry Nitto made stems ... they're my new favorite).
> 
> Also: In a side by side comparison the Billie flares just slightly more than 
> the Choco as well, which, I'm also looking forward to.
> 
> Here's a pic of the current Choco set up - I expect to switch it out for the 
> Billie over the weekend:
> 
>> On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 1:45:07 PM UTC-4, J L wrote:
>> Hello rivsters, 
>> 
>> I have been looking for a new upright bar. I love love love albatross bars 
>> with the handles angled down about 10° - that is the end of the bars point 
>> toward the rear hub. 
>> 
>> What are peoples experience with the billie and choco bars? They look 
>> similar to albatross but with less rise. I want to try one of them set up 
>> almost like a flat bar with swept back handles. I am looking for a slightly 
>> more swept back Jitensha bar (nitto b2522). I plan to cut the bar ends to 
>> the length I want. 
>> 
>> Thoughts? Other options. 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> Jason
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Re: [RBW] Billie bar / choco bar

[J L]

Thanks Joe,

That was my thinking too. Looks like the Billie is in between in terms of rise. 
Billie is also wider... because the handles go back further? 

Good to know that functionally they are familiar. That is what i was hoping to 
find. 


> On Oct 3, 2018, at 12:12 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> I've used Albas (a bunch of them, steel and alu) and one Choco-Norm. IMO 
> either bar could pass for the other with a stem length-and-rise change to 
> match where the other was on your bike. Therefore if you like Albas but want 
> less rise and further reach-back, you'll like the Choco. 
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[RBW] Billie bar / choco bar

[J L]

Hello rivsters,

I have been looking for a new upright bar. I love love love albatross bars with 
the handles angled down about 10° - that is the end of the bars point toward 
the rear hub.

What are peoples experience with the billie and choco bars? They look similar 
to albatross but with less rise. I want to try one of them set up almost like a 
flat bar with swept back handles. I am looking for a slightly more swept back 
Jitensha bar (nitto b2522). I plan to cut the bar ends to the length I want. 

Thoughts? Other options. 

Thanks
Jason

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[RBW] FS: MAFAC canti brakes

[J L]

Hello all,

One set (front and rear) of used MAFAC cantilever brakes $40 shipped. These are 
the standard ones, not the Tandem model. 

Reply offlist. Thanks. 

Jason,
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: FS TA Cranks, Dura Ace RD

[J L]

Thanks for all the interest in the bike parts. The cranks and RD have both sold.

Cheers
Jason

> On Aug 9, 2017, at 11:38 PM, J L <subfas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey gang, sorry for the crosspost.
> 
> I have a couple of gems up for sale:
> 
> TA pro 5 vis cranks, 170mm English thread. Current production cyclotouriste 
> rings 46/30 rings  Upgraded hardware 
> Everything is high polished and VGC 9/10 on a quality rating
> 
> Dura Ace 7703 RD same level of finish and 9/10 quality overall 
> Big pulleys / medium cage
> Rated at 38 tooth capacity
> Easily set up with a 32t rear cog I didn't try for larger
> 
> Crank set -$150 shipped 
> Derailleur - $120 shipped
> 
> Tiny pics attached - full size available.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Everything has a higher level of shine than in the photos. I took them from a 
> low angle because there was too much glare off the metal otherwise. 
> 
> Reply offlist please (it helps to reduce thread clutter).
> 
> Thanks
> Jason
> SF, CA

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[RBW] WTborrow 650b wheelset

[J L]

Does anyone have a spare/ storage 650b wheelset laying around? Maybe some 
cracked synergies or a zac19 set that you don't trust mounting tires on? 

I need to do a trial fit on a conversion for brake reach and fender placement 
and want to borrow a set of 650b wheels with tires (38-42mm) for a couple 
weeks. The bike is 126mm spacing so I would rather limit the wheelset to 130 or 
smaller spaced hub. 

The bike will have no rider and no crank setup this is just to test fit, that 
is why an "unsafe" wheelset would work just fine. 650b may not work with the 
brakes so I am trying to avoid purchasing anything without a fit first. (A plan 
for the bike build is much farther down the road).

I can come pick up in the general SF bay area. 

Thanks
Jason

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[RBW] Free For Shipping and FS Items Nitto / French /etc.

[J L]

Spring cleaning:

Nitto Big Back Rack - size medium $120 pickup in SF bay or $150 shipped
Nitto Mini Front Rack - finishes matches rear rack - mounts to upper fork
braze ones that many Riv models have - also works great with P clamps. $80
pick up or $100 shipped or no shipping cost if bought with BBR.
TA Dust Caps (pair) - signs of wear but threads and finish are good  $25
shipped.

A little giving back / free for shipping:
For the sake of quick transactions I will be sending things usps first
class flat rate ( $6.)

Dia Compe G500 Brakes (mostly complete) 47-57 reach single pivot
Mr Tuffy 1inch wide (pair)
SR campy clone pedals black
SR campy clone pedals
Long Kalloy 26.8 silver seatpost
Sachs Maillard LY92 13-22 7 sped freewheel
Christoph black plastic toe clips size M


Sugino/WTB dust caps (pair)- standard crank threading (no cost)
Bullet Dust Caps (pair) (no cost)

Thanks
Please email me direct.

Jason
SF,CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[J L]

These bikes are probably good enough for the people who end up buying
them.  They don't interest me.

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[RBW] FS nitto racks

[J L]

Two racks for sale:

Nitto Big Back Rack - $180 shipped inside USA
Nitto Mini Front Rack - $120 shipped inside USA

Thanks
Please reply offlist

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[RBW] WTB elegant FD adapter 28.6

[J L]

I am having the most difficult time finding an adapter to use a braze on
mount FD on a bike that does not have the braze on.

Does anyone have an elegant / not cheap / not problem solvers brand / FD
clamp that is 28.6 clamp size?

Thanks
Jason
SF,CA

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Re: [RBW] WTB elegant FD adapter 28.6

[J L]

Roadblock: the Shimano adapter is not made in 28.6.

I am not interested in an adapter that uses a second adapter (a 31.8 to
28.6 shim).

I was able to find one from IRD that might be workable.

Jason


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 do you not like the shimano one?  that is my favorite one, looks-wise

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[RBW] quickbeam/S.O. questions

[J L]

Cyclotourist's new addition has me thinking again about a singlespeed
commute/errand bike (I plan to keep my eye out for one at the right price
56 or 54cm). Right now that role is filled by my fantastic CB0, but it
might be a little overbuilt for that role.

QB owners:  How does the bike handle on paved streets and fireroads with
medium front/rear load (something like a nitto rack with panniers and a
nitto front rack with a basket?)  I I have seen tour reports, etc. but it
has been a while.

Jason
SF,CA

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[RBW] FS wool cycling shorts size M / L

[J L]

With the popularity of the what do we rivs wear thread I thought I would
offer these up to the group before putting them on the auction site.

Icebreaker Merino Wool / Lycra padded cycling shorts Size L
plus

Outdoor Research quick dry baggy shorts Size L

Both Black - the OR pair have been worn a couple times but the Icebreaker
shorts are new with tags intact.

These should both fit someone with a waist in the 34-36 inch range.

$40 shipped for the pair.

Thanks - offlist to buy
Jason
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[RBW] TEST WEBMAIL

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This is just a test to help me troubleshoot access to this group - sent via
browser based gmail.

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Re: [RBW] Subject Lines

[J L]

I dont understand these responses to the o.p.   He was just asking for some
support in everyone following the rules and gets met with the usual deal
with it type feedback?  This forum needs some serious moderator help.
There are too many off topic posts, too often people dont trim before they
post, and now this rudeness?
Jl sf,ca.

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Re: [RBW] WTB 47cm - 50 cm Rivendell

[J L]

If there happen to be two such rivs to be had I am in the same boat.  :)
JL
On Nov 17, 2012 12:05 PM, shawn shawn.adki...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I am looking to purchase a Rivendell for my wife and thought I would take
 a shot in the dark in hopes that someone was interested in selling a 47- 50
 cm Sam Hillborne, Atlantis, Saluki or AHH.
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Re: [RBW] Fenders and Rams

[J L]

Ryan

Some have installed longboards, or SKS fenders on their Ram but there are
also many who were successful in installing metal fenders.

There are a couple things one can do to improve the clearance for fenders.
What brakes do you have?  The stock Shimano brakes are nice at stopping but
the Tektro 539s are a good upgrade because of how they are shaped.   There
more clearance in both caliper width (wider tire can be installed without
deflating) and fender clearance.  The second thing to try - if I understand
correctly what you meant by mount the good way is to shorten the daruma
bolt (a file used like a saw works well) then drill the mounting hole a
little wider in order to use a recessed brake bolt in place of the nut.

I worked with this same issue on my own Ram.  I am very pleased with the
Tektro brakes and although I got fenders to fit on the bike I never ride
with them.

Cheers
JL

On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote:

 My hanjos do not like my Ram with 32mm paselas. It worked but the crown
 was too shallow to mount the good way and the original brakes are pretty
 low.

 Has anyone put the longboards on a ram?

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Re: [RBW] Nashville Protovelo

[J L]

The sf bay listing ended up going on for so long that the price did
eventually drop to $900 complete.   This bike is missing many of the parts.

JL

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[RBW] Someone please buy this: 53cm Legolas

[J L]

What ever happened to that robin's egg blue proto legolas that was recently
on the list?   Did anyone here buy it.  I know it was last listed as a
complete bike on sf craigslist for $900, then a while later posted here on
the list by the new owner.  I should have snatched it up.

Jl

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[RBW] Re: A. Homer Hilsen brake question

[J L]

I think the dia compe 750s might be too long,  even at the highest point of
the brake pads.   Have you looked at the gran compe 610?   It looks like a
high quality brake with a lower price than the paul brakes have.   I have
to say though, paul brakes are worth saving up for if you can wait.

Jl
On Sep 16, 2012 11:21 AM, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote:

 Should have said, Pauls are well outside of my budget. Looking for
 something more affordable. Anyone try the Dia-Compes on their Homer? Other
 long reach center pulls out there?

 On Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:50:45 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:

  +1 on the Paul Racers -- work great.

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 *Subject:* [RBW] A. Homer Hilsen brake question

  Anyone have any knowledge or experience on whether the Dia-Compe Mod
 750 Centerpull Brakes 
 (http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/brcp1.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/brcp1.htm
 ) will work with the 700c Hilsen? Other centerpull  brake options?

  Thanks,
 David Spranger
 Charlotte, NC

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