Re: [RBW] Re: Atlas stout enough rim for Gus/Susie?

[Mike Williams]

Hey Jason,  another rim to consider,  that falls in between the Atlas (19.8) 
and Cliffhanger(25) internal widths is Sun Ryno Lyte 700c.   I believe the 
internal width is 22mm(27 outside).  And they can usually be found for a pair 
for under which a single Velocity rim would cost.They’re not MUSA though.   
 They get fairly good reviews.   I’ve seen the weight listed at 590 grams for 
700c as well as 670 grams for 700c so I’m not too sure on the confirmed weight.

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> On May 4, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
> 
> 
> This has me seriously debating whether to go with Atlas or Cliffhangers on my 
> Clem wheelset; I might end up running Rat Trap Passes on it and maybe the 
> extra width will prevent the swirm that some have reported.  Or maybe the 
> Atlas is wide enough to address that.  I'll probably run Gravel King SK's 
> (2.1") but good to have the option. 
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Re: [RBW] 62cm MIT Atlantis photos anywhere?

[Mike Williams]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BwqBVB5lC0D/?igshid=1rz1dmi24wfxh

This is a 62.  In the comment below they list dimensions

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> On Apr 15, 2020, at 8:10 AM, scott minor  wrote:
> 
> 
> Does anyone have a photo they can post?  I can't detect one on the Riv site 
> or google images and curious what a 62 actually looks like.  Seems like all 
> the arch tube examples on the net are 59's.  There are 2 different arch tube 
> side profile shots on the current Riv Atlantis page but they appear to be 2 
> different pictures of the same sized frame.  A full build picture would be 
> ideal but frameset pic is better than nothing.  
> 
> thanks!  
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 59 MIT Atlantis

[Mike Williams]

Hey Steve,  thanks for the heads up.   I am aware of the longer reach/ overall 
largeness of the new/ expanded 59cm Geometry vs other 59cm Geos of previous 
Rivs.   My PBH is ~90 and I’ve ridden a 58 JoeApp which fit well if even a 
touch small.   Again,  thanks for heads up man.   -Mike

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> On Apr 5, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Adam Leibow  wrote:
> 
> 
> Steve, I went through the same thing and tried the 59cm Atlantis because my 
> friend was selling it for a good deal. It was big for me but I made it 
> workfor two weeks, then I sold it. Now I have the 55cm, which fits me 
> well although I am still working out the reach and bar setup. TBH, I know the 
> OP Mike and I know he would fit the MIT 59cm (55/56 would be too small). 
> 
>> On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 7:06:33 PM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
>> Just seeing if anyone has a 59cm MIT Atlantis that they’re not riding much.  
>>   Shoot me a message.Thank you!   -Mike
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nice Try, Assholes!

[Mike Williams]

I used to see this in the Bay Area sometimes,  store owners/ public works would 
put some type of heavy glue/ caulk/ rubber cement on the top of threads on top 
of the nut to keep it in a fixed place and it seemed to be a pretty good 
deterrent.

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> 
> 
> Maybe we could use the subject line to give a hint as to what the post will 
> be about. It also helps when people search the archives in the future. Then 
> there's this, from the intro to the group: "a respectful, supportive and 
> polite tone in all posts."
> 
> I tell my ten-year-old, cursing, most of the time, is just lazy; think of a 
> more creative way to express yourself! (Unless the wrench slips when you're 
> trying to remove that vintage bottom bracket.) There are exceptions, of 
> course, where cursing is creative. It's often in reference to itself, like 
> George Carlin's 7 Dirty Words. Or this Educational Video: 
> https://youtu.be/5EXqPriuHHI
> 
>> On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 11:03:37 PM UTC-4, Matthew Williams wrote:
>> Public Service Announcement: Always check the bike rack!
>> 
>> 
>> When I went to lock my bike, the rack was loose so I took a close look at 
>> where and how it was anchored to the concrete. Someone had loosened and 
>> removed the fasteners so the bike racks could be easily lifted off the 
>> concrete.
>> 
>> I showed the manager. "Who would do such a thing?" she asked.
>> 
>> "Bike thieves," I said.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Mike Williams]

Ahh.  Yes,  I shoulda figured that.   

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> On Apr 2, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Matthew P  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Joe and thanks for the catch Mike.
> 
> WATERFORD, not Walt Works
> 
> -Matthew
> 
> 
>> On Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 11:26:21 AM UTC-7, Mike Williams wrote:
>> Whoa!  Did I read that correct?  A MUSA built Waltworks Atlantis?  Only of 
>> its kind?   Interesting.   -Mike
>> 
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>> 
>>>> On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Matthew P  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear RBW Owners,
>>> 
>>> I am selling a 56 cm 650b MUSA Atlantis.  It's geometry is listed in the 
>>> attachment.  I bought it off the RBW list on Februry 1st from the original 
>>> owner (Brencho).  He said he got it a few years back, around 2017, when the 
>>> new geometries were coming out.  But he got this as a special order, with 
>>> the "older" MUSA Atlantis geometry.  And it is a MUSA, made by Waltworks.  
>>> I jumped on it because I never see Atlantises for sale and thought this was 
>>> the perfect size for me.  It turns out to be a little small.  I was 
>>> thinking of keeping it as a trail bike, so I put 2.35" tires on it, set up 
>>> tubeless.
>>> 
>>> I am 5'11" with a 86 cm PBH.  In case it helps, in Surly units, I ride a 56 
>>> cm Surly Long Haul Trucker with ample room to spare.  This 56 cm Atlantis 
>>> is smaller - most or all of the tubes are shorter than that bike - and the 
>>> Atlantis has smaller wheels (650b vs 700c).
>>> 
>>> This Atlantis is a premium build.  Here is some info:
>>> 
>>> bars - I think they are the Albatross
>>> stem - Nitto lugged
>>> shifters - Shimano bar end
>>> grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
>>> brakes - Paul cantilever
>>> brake levers - Shimano
>>> wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ Velocity 
>>> Atlas rims, rear Shimano XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub
>>> Cranks - Sugino triple
>>> Derailers - Shimano XT
>>> Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up tubeless
>>> I also have available: 
>>> - 2.1" Thunder Burts, and 
>>> - 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.
>>> seatpost - Nitto S83 (2 bolts)
>>> saddle - A cheapo I put on after buying it with no saddle. Can include or 
>>> take off.
>>> pedals - nice metal flat pedals but the name is rubbed off so I'm not sure 
>>> who made them.  I'd like to keep them if you don't want them.
>>> 
>>> The bike was basically brand new when I got it in January.  I've ridden it 
>>> about 20 times.  Its in great shape.  There is just one significant scratch 
>>> on the NDS chainstay (bad pic in link).  Its not the only scratch but I 
>>> think its the worst.  
>>> 
>>> Here is a link to an album of photos: 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9
>>> Please let me know if that does not work or otherwise.
>>> 
>>> I put the 2.35" tires on it and paid to get them setup tubeless, so I put 
>>> about $150 into it.  I used it just a little and put a little money into it 
>>> so I'm asking what I paid: $3000.  I suggest we split the shipping.  PayPal 
>>> fees are $87 when sending $3000 "to a friend", so I would like to try 
>>> another payment method - bank transfer or mail a money order (if that is 
>>> safe)?
>>> 
>>> Please let me know if you are interested or have any questions.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> -Matthew
>>> San Diego
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] FS: MUSA Atlantis. 56 cm / 650b

[Mike Williams]

Whoa!  Did I read that correct?  A MUSA built Waltworks Atlantis?  Only of its 
kind?   Interesting.   -Mike

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> On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:30 PM, Matthew P  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear RBW Owners,
> 
> I am selling a 56 cm 650b MUSA Atlantis.  It's geometry is listed in the 
> attachment.  I bought it off the RBW list on Februry 1st from the original 
> owner (Brencho).  He said he got it a few years back, around 2017, when the 
> new geometries were coming out.  But he got this as a special order, with the 
> "older" MUSA Atlantis geometry.  And it is a MUSA, made by Waltworks.  I 
> jumped on it because I never see Atlantises for sale and thought this was the 
> perfect size for me.  It turns out to be a little small.  I was thinking of 
> keeping it as a trail bike, so I put 2.35" tires on it, set up tubeless.
> 
> I am 5'11" with a 86 cm PBH.  In case it helps, in Surly units, I ride a 56 
> cm Surly Long Haul Trucker with ample room to spare.  This 56 cm Atlantis is 
> smaller - most or all of the tubes are shorter than that bike - and the 
> Atlantis has smaller wheels (650b vs 700c).
> 
> This Atlantis is a premium build.  Here is some info:
> 
> bars - I think they are the Albatross
> stem - Nitto lugged
> shifters - Shimano bar end
> grips - Newbaum wrap w/ padding under
> brakes - Paul cantilever
> brake levers - Shimano
> wheels - 650b/27.5" Handbuilt Wheels by Rich Lesnik (Rivendell) w/ Velocity 
> Atlas rims, rear Shimano XT hub, front Shimano dyno hub
> Cranks - Sugino triple
> Derailers - Shimano XT
> Tires - 2.35" Schwalbe Magic Mary (front) & Nobby Nic (rear) set up tubeless
> I also have available: 
> - 2.1" Thunder Burts, and 
> - 2.25" WTB Trail Boss, Fast Rolling/Tough.
> seatpost - Nitto S83 (2 bolts)
> saddle - A cheapo I put on after buying it with no saddle. Can include or 
> take off.
> pedals - nice metal flat pedals but the name is rubbed off so I'm not sure 
> who made them.  I'd like to keep them if you don't want them.
> 
> The bike was basically brand new when I got it in January.  I've ridden it 
> about 20 times.  Its in great shape.  There is just one significant scratch 
> on the NDS chainstay (bad pic in link).  Its not the only scratch but I think 
> its the worst.  
> 
> Here is a link to an album of photos: 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zcQSxtk8sYFYoMmZ9
> Please let me know if that does not work or otherwise.
> 
> I put the 2.35" tires on it and paid to get them setup tubeless, so I put 
> about $150 into it.  I used it just a little and put a little money into it 
> so I'm asking what I paid: $3000.  I suggest we split the shipping.  PayPal 
> fees are $87 when sending $3000 "to a friend", so I would like to try another 
> payment method - bank transfer or mail a money order (if that is safe)?
> 
> Please let me know if you are interested or have any questions.
> 
> Thank you.
> -Matthew
> San Diego
> 
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Re: [RBW] FS: Clem Smith Jr Disc 59

[Mike Williams]

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> On Mar 12, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Karl  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drop bar on MIT Atlantis?

[Mike Williams]

Daniel and Bill and others,  you can compare different model frames fairly 
easily on bikeinsights,  assuming that all numbers are correct.

https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries%5B%5D=5e1faf637f17da00170c6e28%5B%5D=5ad1288a9127aa0014fa1d9c%5B%5D=%5B%5D=

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> On Feb 26, 2020, at 7:28 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> 
> Daniel Jackson
> 
> It's trivially easy to find the previous geometry chart via the wayback 
> machine.  I just looked it up, on a Sept 23, 2019 snapshot of rivbike.com.  
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> 
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:13:12 PM UTC-8, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>> John, 
>> 
>> Bill I believe alluded to this, but there now seem to be two generations of 
>> MIT Atlantis. To my chagrin, the precious geometry charts have disappeared 
>> from the website and if you ask anyone at Riv about differences between 
>> generations they either do not know (eg Corey) or will not tell you (Grant). 
>> 
>> There was a time, about 2 months ago or so, when there were two different 
>> MIT Atlantis geo charts on the website. One on the Atlantis site and one on 
>> the full geo chart listing all current frame geometries. They conflicted 
>> with one another. I called Riv with clarifying questions and Corey promptly 
>> removed the geo chart on the Atlantis site from the original gen MIT 
>> Atlantis. I called back asking Grant about the different geometries and how 
>> to tell whether a given MIT was of the first or second geometry. He told me 
>> not to worry about. 
>> 
>> So there it is. I believe that the current crop of MIT Atlanti are longer 
>> and slacker than the original generation. The original are therefore better 
>> suited to drops. Benedict’s bike, linked to in the Radavist article, is 
>> first gen and perfect for drops. 
>> 
>> Best, 
>> D.
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Re: [RBW] Re: 69 cm A Homer Hilsen for $1100 on eBay (not mine)

[Mike Williams]

Reid,  what’s the saddle height/ your PBH in your updated photo( after you 
swapped tires/ bars).  Thanks.  -Mike

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> On Feb 5, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Reid Echols  wrote:
> 
> Well, here it is after a wheel, bar, and drivetrain swap. Fits 42s a treat, 
> and I may well throw some fenders on if it keeps raining here. Rides so, so 
> well. With my strangely long torso these longer Rivs work very well for me. I 
> may pick up a 1cm longer stem down the line, but for now this is quite comfy. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted - 59cm Clem H

[Mike Williams]

Interesting that blue lug would sell it for $1270 USD.   Weren’t most Clem 
framesets in the $900 range?

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> On Nov 24, 2019, at 8:06 AM, tc  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jeff, I know you want a complete ... but I see that Blue Lug as a 59 Mustard 
> Clem H F/F/H/BB for US $1270.25.  They do ship internationally.
> https://store.bluelug.com/rivendell-clem-smith-jr-frame-set-h-style-mustard.html
> 
> Tom
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Re: [RBW] FS: 62cm Rambouillet

[Mike Williams]

$700 frame/ fork should fly   Good luck,  awesome bike!

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> On Nov 11, 2019, at 3:57 PM, Jay Lonner  wrote:
> 
> 
> This is my Rambouillet. There are many like it, but this one is mine. But it 
> also could be yours, since my riding has morphed from spirited weekend rides 
> to plodding urban trips better suited to my Hunqapillar.
> 
> Anyway, this is an original, orange, fancy-lugged model, 62cm. Current 
> components include:
> 
> - Wheels by Peter Jon White, XTR M900 hubs and MA3 rims. (I also have a 
> PJW-built front wheel with a SON hub and MA3 rims that could be sold on its 
> own or as part of a package deal.)
> - Front and rear derailers are Suntour XC9000
> - Ritchey Logic triple crank with Harris Cyclery "Century Special" 8-speed 
> cassette
> - Cane Creek levers, Tektro sidepulls
> - Ultegra headset, UN72 bb
> - B17 saddle, "Waybacker" seatpost, Albstache bars, Nitto stem
> - SKS fenders, Tubus Fly rack, Carradice saddlebag
> 
> I'm building up a Cheviot for my wife, and many of these components would 
> work well in that build, so I could either sell the whole shebang or just 
> f/f/hs/bb.
> 
> Pricewise I'm really stuck. I don't know whether to regard this bike as a 
> sought-after classic or an obsolete curiosity from the early days of 
> Rivendell. I'm not interested in holding out for top dollar, but I also don't 
> want to be a sucker. I'm thinking something like $700 for the frameset, $1500 
> complete, plus actual packing and shipping costs. If that seems out of line I 
> am open to suggestions and/or offers.
> 
> I've included a pic of the bike but can also provide closeups if there are 
> particular areas of concern.
> 
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
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[RBW] C17

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Hey Gary,  couldn’t see how to contact you directly.   I’ll take the Slate/ tan 
c17 if still available.   Thanks.   -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Mike Williams]

Great looking bike Reid!
1) what size
2) what size tire?  38c?

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> Just finished my first commute on the new-to-me and newly built Rambouillet. 
> So far, it’s precisely what I was hoping it would be: a spirited, but smooth 
> ride. After splitting hairs with a couple of Clems, a Sam, and a Homer, I 
> just might have landed on the ideal Riv stable for me: this and the Appaloosa.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 9 speed downtube shifters

[Mike Williams]

Found some 9 speed downtube shifters,  thanks everyone.   -Mike

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> I’m also looking for 9-speed downtube shifters in case someone else has some 
> extras lying around.
> Max
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Re: [RBW] WTB frame--58 Appa or 59 Atlantis (MIT).

[Mike Williams]

I’ll send over some pics

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> So I've got the itch to put a Riv back together. Yesterday I took a Chev for 
> a ride and while not set-up quite how I like, it was great. The 58 Appa is my 
> ideal frame although it appears that ship has sailed. RBW will apparently 
> have 59 Atlanti back in stock in Sept so I may just go that route. Still, I 
> figured I'd put this out there. 
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: 63cm A Homer Hilsen

[Mike Williams]

Hey Kristen,  Unfortunately 65cm is a little too big for me but thank you.
-Mike

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> Michael, 
> 
> My partner is selling his 65 AHH. We've been meaning to get a post together 
> for the RBWOB, but here's the craigslist ad: 
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/san-carlos-rivendell-homer-hilsen/6929511030.html
> Message me or respond to cl ad if you are interested!
> Thanks
> Kristen
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>> Hey group,  long shot and wondering if anyone has a 63 AHH that they’re not 
>> riding much these days that they might be interested in selling.   Bill 
>> Lindsay recently had one for sale on here that I missed out on.  They seem 
>> like an ideal bike.   If you got one,  please PM me.   Thank you.-Mike
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS (Soonish): 61cm Romulus complete ($900USD); 60cm Saluki($1500USD); 59cm Clementine frameset ($450USD)

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Holy Toledo those are some screaming frameset prices,  damn I wish the Rom was 
a 63cm.   Someone will snatch those up

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> Pictures of 61cm Romulus and 60 Saluki framesets now available at the 
> following link:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/140959259@N03/with/48252267787/
> 
> As I'm running out of available time, if anyone is interested in the saluki 
> frameset for 900 or the romulus frameset for 400 (not including shipping or 
> fees) let me know. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 2 Gus Boots For Sale on Riv Site

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So what rims are you using Deacon,  Velocity cliffhangers?

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> Here's a wee preview of this past week's adventure, Boots in his element in 
> full gear. Bottom line is I have to recalibrate what is ridable. The geometry 
> and plus tires are a delightful combination ... 
> https://snap.as/me/photos/WUrbNiF 
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> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bump! FS/ FT 58cm Joe Appaloosa

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Hey Jonathan,   Not complete.   Just F/F/HS/ BB/ seatpost

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> Are you selling a complete Joe for $950.  I wish it was my size.  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Stack & Reach for RBW MUSA Frames

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Yes!   Jonathan K,  thank you for this.   Super helpful!

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> Strange. I was able to find MUSA Homers under the "2017 Base" option. Check 
> the link here:
> 
> https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries[]=5a1e69902a0c030014708ca8[]=5b8578f548f3a30004789b0f[]=[]=
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>> On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 2:29:49 AM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:
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>> 
>> I did look at Bike Insights before posting.  It did not have the MUSA AHH, 
>> only the MIT.
>> 
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>> 
>>> On Sunday, May 26, 2019 at 10:51:05 PM UTC-4, John G. wrote:
>>> Be sure to check out this site, too:
>>> https://bikeinsights.com/
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: stack and reach for Riv frames

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Yeah Reid!   Thanks for sharing this..again.   I must’ve missed it the first 
time.  Super cool.

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> Holy moly, that is an outstanding resource. Bookmarking it.
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Re: [RBW] FS Feeler: 62 Appaloosa frameset, blue

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Too big for me but $800 seems like a steal

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> Hi folks, 
> 
> Just moved and am having to consider downsizing the stable. Any interest in a 
> blue 62 Joe? I could probably sell some version of a complete but for now 
> let's start with the frameset. I'd like to net around $800. It's in very good 
> shape. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Reid in Austin 
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

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Love that Bomba Shawn!

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> My Bomba at home in the woods.
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

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Hey Reid,  I gave the builder the forks specs ( of the older Joe App,  I 
believe V2 has a slightly beefier fork) and he said it was ok.  

Jeff,  Walt from Waltworks did the mods.   Awesome to deal with.  $150 total 
for front/  rear tabs.  I did not have the canti studs removed,  also no cable 
guides added.   This would’ve increased price by a little.   I just used the 
canti posts/ rack brazeons and some zip ties to keep housing in place.   Works 
pretty good.  I’ll post some pics when I get a chance.   To my eye, the 
discs don’t seem out of place at all on the Joe and I prefer them for the 
rainy/ cold weather.  -Mike

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> +1. If I may ask, who performed the mods? Apologies if you already posted 
> them somewhere, but any chance I/we can see some better detail pics? This may 
> be my MIT Atlantis tipping point.
> 
> Jeff Hagedorn
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>> On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 10:51:43 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>> Wow Mike, very cool. Probably opens up some very nice lightweight wheel 
>> options with the discs. Did you have a new fork made, or did the builder 
>> deem the Joe sufficiently burly for the mod? Asking for a friend...
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Mike Williams]

Hey Tom,  thank you!   Rims are Velocity Blunt SS/ tires are 29x2.25 Rocket 
Rons/ I think the fenders are planet bike cascadia 29er fenders.   I had disc 
tabs put on the bike which allows me to run the Blunt SS.   Really loving the 
JoeApp

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> Mike, awesome Joe setup!  What rims, tires and fenders (make, width) are you 
> running?  Also, Is that a Wavie bar?
> 
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Re: [RBW] Surprise New Bike Day: My MOM

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This is such a great story!So cool your whole family had a good time

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> Hehe, I could totally see hubby as Leah's stoker 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant’s Hillybike Concept Attempts to Restore Balance to the Speed of Humanity

[Mike Williams]

Garth,  I love your responses on the list.  I read that one a couple times.  
Thank you

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> On Apr 6, 2019, at 6:33 AM, Garth  wrote:
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> 
> 
>"Just ride" means exactly that ... just ride .   No agenda . Riding 
> doesn't need a reason  riding doesn't care about clothing, conditions, 
> parts,  what this that or the other represents to the ride or about the ride. 
> The ride is all about the ride just ride ! .. lest the ride not be 
> the ride  but an agenda pretending to be the ride. in which case the 
> agenda is all about the agenda and doesn't give a hoot about the ride. To the 
> agenda , the ride is but some-thing to use to promote the agenda, to further 
> the agenda.   The ride however is indeed the ride however the ride rides the 
> ride.  Not even agendas have any say in the ride . such are powerless in 
> the face of the ride... because the ride is purely the ride . none other 
> than itself. The ride rides the ride .An agenda requires 
> some-thing-other-than-itself to further the agenda . but the ride has no 
> requirements to ride the ride and the rides rides and rides and rides 
> Infinitum all by Itself. Without a without . Complete in Itself. "The 
> Ride"  is Pure Love  Love Loving Love's Loving Love.   Wholyness . 
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day. 56cm 650B Atlantis

[Mike Williams]

Got it,  all excellent points Bill.   Thank you for the detailed response!   
-Mike

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> On Apr 3, 2019, at 5:28 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> I said the 56cm 650B Atlantis was a perfect bike and that I wouldn't change a 
> thing.  
> 
> Mike Williams asked for a comparison with the Joe Appaloosa, which is an 
> excellent bike.  There are a few small but notable differences that make the 
> Joe Appaloosa a very good bike for Bill Lindsay, and make the Atlantis a 
> perfect bike for Bill Lindsay.  
> 
> They both ride great.  The 55cm Joe Appaloosa is ideally set up with Choco 
> bars, in my opinion.  For me, drop bars are just better, and the top tube 
> length of the Joe Appaloosa would have made a drop bar setup goofy for me.  
> The 56cm Atlantis has a slightly shorter top tube and is perfect with drop 
> bars and a 9cm stem.  The 55cm Joe Appaloosa has 700c wheels. When you run it 
> with stout wheels and tires, those heavy wheels make the bike more cruiserish 
> and less agile, in my opinion.  The 650B wheels of the Atlantis are far more 
> preferable in handling.  It is possible that lightweight 700c wheels and 
> tires could get some of that back.  My preferred agility in 650B could easily 
> be countered by another person's stability in 700c.  Finally, I really 
> dislike toe clip overlap.  I really dislike it and avoid it whenever I can.  
> I bought the Appaloosa thinking it wouldn't have TCO for me, because it had a 
> really long front center.  It had less TCO than my 700c 58cm Atlantis that I 
> used to have, but it still happened, and fully loaded on campouts it was a 
> problem that I don't want anymore.  650B bikes in my size never have TCO.  
> 
> So, if I still had the Appaloosa, I'd still ride it and it would still be 
> great, but I would wish it was 650B and I would wish that it had a slightly 
> shorter top tube for a better drop bar setup.  The Atlantis is perfect.  The 
> fact that it is an instantly recognizeable ICON of a machine also makes the 
> Atlantis perfect, in my eyes.  I also prefer less seatpost showing on a 56 
> from the 55 Appaloosa.  The original Atlantis was a masterpiece.  I'm now 
> convinced the MIT Atlantis is flat out better (for me).  
> 
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day. 56cm 650B Atlantis

[Mike Williams]

Hey there Bill,  you also had/ have a Joe App, right?   Is the Atlantis any 
different?   Thanks!

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> On Apr 3, 2019, at 3:54 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> I'm about 200 miles into the Atlantis now, and I'm convinced it is a perfect 
> bike.  There isn't a thing I would change about it.  I am certain there is 
> not another <$1500 frameset out there that is intended for the same kind of 
> riding that is better.  Rivendells in general for 2019 are highly evolved 
> bikes for traditional riding use-cases.  Virtually everything else in the 
> bike industry of 2019 is either not highly evolved, or is made for extreme 
> and/or specialized riding use cases.  If you are a normal person, doing 
> normal cycling, the Atlantis is a perfect machine.  There's no question that 
> the Atlantis could be a one-bike stable for me.  I'd never actually try to 
> live with a one-bike stable, but I'm totally confident I could.
> 
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> 
> On Friday, March 8, 2019 at 3:21:11 PM UTC-8, John Bokman wrote:
>> 
>> Time for a review yet?
>> I'm eager to hear about the ride - especially with the long stays.
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 10:30:21 AM UTC-8, Mark Schneider wrote:
>>> That's one sweet build Bill, look forward to a review.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
 On Saturday, January 12, 2019 at 2:45:36 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
 As man of you noticed I put four framesets up for sale with the intent to 
 buy one new one. I only sold one of the four, with a bit of interest on 
 two more, but went ahead and picked up my new MIT Atlantis frameset 
 yesterday. It's a 56cm with 650B x 55mm tires.  The entire build kit came 
 off my 54cm Rosco Bubbe Step Through.  It's got a 2x10 Shimano drivetrain, 
 CX70 brakes, Cliffhanger rims.  I'm going to use it as a drop bar mountain 
 bike and a forest road explorer up in Gold Country.  I'm pleased with how 
 the build turned out and I'm excited about the bike.  Besides the longer 
 chainstays and the absence of a second top tube, this bike is basically 
 identical to the 56cm Bombadil I used to have.  
 
 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 2 Gus Boots For Sale on Riv Site

[Mike Williams]

If you REALLY want disc brakes on a Riv frame( GBW)   I’d say have some disc 
mounts put on, that’s what I did on my Atlantis and now Joe App.   I had a 
brace put in the rear to triangulate the chainstay/ seatstay,  make it 
stronger.   It does open up some rim options, especially for the GBW.   There 
are a lot of steel frames out there with disc brakes.  Some might be heavier 
gauge steel than Riv/ some lighter.   Time will tell if the braking action has 
a negative impact on the frame.  We’ll see

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> 
> I agree with this, Christopher. I actually did chuck a set of Sram disc 
> brakes in the garbage...they were lower level, probably the Level t or 
> something. They just sucked and I could not get them to bite correctly. I 
> have Sram Guide RS on my Trek Remedy now and they have been trouble free and 
> I really dig the feel of them. Maybe Sram just didn't think too much about 
> their lower level junk. (I blame a set of XTR discs for me breaking two ribs 
> in the parking lot of my bike shop last year. lol. I just wasn't used to the 
> bike and shimanos will absolutely lock up a wheel if you aren't 
> careful...which I wasn't. I fell on my elbow and snapped a few ribs, which 
> the owner and workers just won't let me live down.) I do prefer the feel of 
> Sram brakes when they aren't the lower lever stuff though.
> 
> I think the Paul Klamper is one of the best brakes made...ever. It's 
> expensive as all Paul parts seem to be, but it is stupid easy to setup and it 
> just plain works really well especially with a Paul canti lever. It also 
> looks nice. 
> 
>> On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 1:26:17 PM UTC-5, Christopher Cote wrote:
>> Disc brakes are a mature product. Paul Klampers and Avid BB7s are 
>> bulletproof and require far less fiddling than rim brakes. As Eric said, 
>> Shimano hydros are trouble free. SRAM hydros belong in the garbage in my 
>> experience, but let's not talk about that. Disc brakes keep your braking 
>> surface and pads further out of the muck. Bent rotors are rare, but if it 
>> happens, you bolt on a new one. You can take it off if it happens way out in 
>> the boonies in order to get home. Best thing in my opinion is that discs 
>> separate tire holding and braking duties. Your rim brakes are wearing out 
>> the part that holds the tire on. Makes no sense. On the flip side, if you 
>> dent a disc brake wheel rim, or your wheel goes out of true, your brakes are 
>> unaffected.
>> If you're riding on paved or unpaved roads, rim brakes are fine. Gnarly east 
>> coast trails? Give me discs please.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Will 700x38 Gravelking SKs fit on my Ram?

[Mike Williams]

I was actually going to post a general question to the list to see if anyone 
has fit 38c tires on their Rams or Romulus’.   Anyone else had luck?

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> Also, I swear that's just bad perspective on the picture showing the fender 
> mount between the chainstays. I've ridden it and it doesn't rub.
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Re: [RBW] FS: Compass Antelope Hill/ Paul Seatpost/ Paul chain tensioner

[Mike Williams]

Hey Steve,  all yours.  My paypal is this address.I might be able to get it 
out today.   Please send shipping address.   -Mike

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> Mike, interested in the  seatpost if still available. Steve
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:30 PM Michael Williams 
>>  wrote:
>> Hey group,  couple things for sale:
>> Compass Antelope Hill 700x55 tires,  gently used maybe 50miles-   $105 
>> shipped
>> Paul Tall and Hsndsome seatpost- Silver, 27.2- $100 shipped
>> Paul Melvin chain tensioner-gently used-  silver- $65 shipped
>> 
>> I can provide pics if you’d like.   Thank you!   -Mike
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Re: [RBW] FS: Compass Antelope Hill/ Paul Seatpost/ Paul chain tensioner

[Mike Williams]

Standard

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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 10:24 AM, Kainalu V.  wrote:
> 
> Are the tires the standard casing or the extralight casing?
> -Kai
> BKNY 
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[RBW] RE: Marks Rack/ M32

[Mike Williams]

Racks have sold.   
Still have a Makeshifter Outback Saddlebag -$175 shipped
And 2 Velo Orange Grand Cru setback seatposts:   $20shipped each

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Re: [RBW] Re: MTB on the Blahg (again)

[Mike Williams]

One I came up with was ‘slow glutes bison’. Glutes being another name for ass

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> There COULD be an 'm' if you flip the 'w'
> 
> Ja, l have Scrabble tiles out now.
> 
> EricF
> New Edinburgh Ont
> 
>> On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 19:52, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>> I'm finding the three S's troublesome, and the lack of a D, an R or an M 
>> rules out a lot of things.  The only dirt or earth variant I can think of is 
>> SOIL, but they already played with SOIL in the BLAHG, so that's probably 
>> out, like BOWELS.  
>> 
>>> On Monday, September 10, 2018 at 4:30:25 PM UTC-7, Eamon Nordquist wrote:
>>> I did notice bison could be found in there, and wondered if it was indeed 
>>> part if the name. Seems appropriate fir a mountain bike.
>>> Eamon
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: MTB on the Blahg (again)

[Mike Williams]

One I came up with was ‘ slow glutes bison’.   Glutes being another name for 
ass.   So... 

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> Could it be a variant spelling of an actual word or words?
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Re: [RBW] FS: Velocity Cliffhanger wheelset, Luxos U headlight

[Mike Williams]

700c

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> Are these 700 or 27.5?
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Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Mike Williams]

RePachyderm is so good!!!

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> RePachyderm
> 
>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 7:58:12 PM UTC-4, sameness wrote:
>> Harry Elefante, Mt.B
>> 
>> Jeff Hagedorn
>> Los Angeles, CA USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Mike Williams]

Yes Tim,   RTPs will fit on an Atlantis.Get em on there!!

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> On May 3, 2018, at 1:44 PM, Tim Butterfield  wrote:
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> Awesome info.  Thanks everyone.
> 
> The current set is Schwalbe Marathon 1.75" on Atlas wheels and there seems to 
> be plenty of space.
> 
> The RTP sound great, especially if I can still add fenders later if needed.  
> I'll go ahead and order a set.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Tim Butterfield  
>> wrote:
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to have 
>> the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass would fit 
>> at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and definitely the 1.5" 
>> McClure Pass.
>> 
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd probably 
>> need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of the 
>> Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require rainy 
>> rides.
>> 
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Tim
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis tires rec request

[Mike Williams]

Tim,  I have a friend who I believe has fit RTPs on his older Atlantis.   I’ll 
email later to confirm.   -Mike

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> On May 3, 2018, at 1:22 AM, Tim Butterfield  wrote:
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> I should probably add some clarifying thoughts.  I know both the Naches Pass 
> and McClure Pass EL will have a plush ride.  Are the Naches Pass EL likely to 
> be sufficiently more plus than the McClure Pass EL to prevent possible use of 
> a fender in future with the same tire?  I'm not planning to get fenders but, 
> if I change my mind, I would rather not have to get a whole new set of tires 
> to do it, not unless the interim ride is enough better to warrant it.  That's 
> why I was wondering about those two.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Tim Butterfield  
>> wrote:
>> I have been spoiled by the Barlow Pass EL on my 700c Homer and want to have 
>> the same plush ride on my 26" Atlantis.  I doubt the Rat Trap Pass would fit 
>> at 2.3", but could probably fit the 1.8" Naches Pass and definitely the 1.5" 
>> McClure Pass.
>> 
>> Currently, I'm leaning towards the Naches Pass EL in black.  It doesn't 
>> currently have fenders and current usage doesn't require them.  I'd probably 
>> need to drop to the McClure to add fenders.  My current usage of the 
>> Atlantis is as a grab and go around town bike, which doesn't require rainy 
>> rides.
>> 
>> What would your recommendations be for this tire?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Tim
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Clockwork FF/hs $1000

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You know,  In taking these pics I was going for more of the effect of the 
‘diamond in the rough’ bike at a yard sale( yard sale being CL or eBay) and 
when you get it home and get it all polished up,  you realize you have a 
beautifully made, solid, rad bike.  A real gem!   I would of course do the 
polishing before it’s shipped and get it all cleaned up.   I could work on my 
photo skills for sales purposes.

In all seriousness,  It’s a great bike,  no cracks/ never ever crashed.  It’s 
just a little big for me. I didn’t feel comfortable posting it the RBWOB list 
because it’s not a Riv and doesn’t have a ton of Riv qualities other than being 
steel and borrowing from the Hunq geo.   -Mike

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> I just bought a cracked frame that was covered up with dirt, not fun haha
> 
> The market for higher end bikes like this usually has much more trustworthy 
> sellers than the cheap bike I bought, but still. A 30 second spray with the 
> hose and better lighting go a long way for a sale.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

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I like Eamons summary

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> On Mar 28, 2018, at 2:48 PM, 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
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> Who knew this thread would end up discussing foot long hot dogs and Leica's?
> 
> So, to sum up:
> - The old Atlantis is still available at the old price
> - The new Atlantis is probably a fantastic bike, a lot more affordable with 
> no drop in quality, maybe subjectively better in certain areas
> - Some folks don't like the longer chainstays no matter what
> - Some folks love the longer chainstays
> - Some folks worry that the longer chainstays affect the transportability of 
> the bike (bus, train, car racks), but we don't know, because the actual 
> numbers aren't available
> - The new Atlantis may appear to overlap the Appaloosa to some, but is more 
> drop bar friendly
> - Some folks find it rude to comment negatively, some just feel it's a 
> discussion
> - We're well beyond 200 comments!
> - This much brouhaha is only possible because the Atlantis is a cool bike 
> that people like a lot
> - Hot dogs!
> - Leicas!
> 
> :P
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Deacon Patrick is famous

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Hey Doug P,  where do you see the photo credit in lower right corner?

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> gotta admit that photo is a pretty good testimonial 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis fork axle to crown

[Mike Williams]

Doh!!  700c Forks

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> On Mar 14, 2018, at 11:03 PM, dougP  wrote:
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> Would wheel size make a difference?  56 cm & smaller are 26".  58 cm & larger 
> are 700c.  Some current models also come in 650b.  
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 3:04:39 PM UTC-7, mkernan...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hey there group,  specifically Atlantis owners, would a couple of you be 
>> able to take measurements of the axle to criwn length on your Atlantis 
>> forks?   Im sure they are going to differ slightly because of all the 
>> different versions over the years.   Thank you!!   -Mike
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Re: [RBW] Atlantis fork axle to crown

[Mike Williams]

Both would be great!  Thanks René

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> Do you want a straIght line measurement or along the fork?
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:04 PM  wrote:
>> Hey there group,  specifically Atlantis owners, would a couple of you be 
>> able to take measurements of the axle to criwn length on your Atlantis 
>> forks?   Im sure they are going to differ slightly because of all the 
>> different versions over the years.   Thank you!!   -Mike
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[RBW] FS: Moving sale, nice part

[Mike Williams]

Hey group,   Im moving to Vermont soon from the Bay Area and would like to take 
less stuff :).   I have some parts for sale all in great condition.  Prices 
include shipping.

Sugino AT crank, 110/74 bcd,  170mm arm length.   $40
Sakae SX crank,  110/74 bcd, 170mm arm length . $30
Paul Mini- moto brakes, silver.   $160/pair
White Indutries Dos hub 17/19 $80
Thomson elite seatpost, setback, 27.2 $60
Soma layback seatpost, silver, 27.2 $20
Paul Love levers, long pull, compact.  $90/pair
3 pairs of Soma Osprey Bars $25/ each
Nitto Albatross bar, chromo version.$40
Outershell 1/2 framebag, large, tan $60

Please contact off list,   Thanks Mike


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Re: [RBW] Tech Question: Do rear hubs have spacers?!

[Mike Williams]

But.. when I put in a wheel/ tire from another bike,  it sits right in the 
middle.   Im hoping its a wheel issue and not a frame issue

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> It sounds like the drive side drop out is fouling on the drive side of the 
> axle, considering when the wheel is flipped everything lines up okay. 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Tech Question: Do rear hubs have spacers?!

[Mike Williams]

When I reverse the wheel,  it sits pretty even in the middle, meaning i cant 
see a bias one way or the other.   I’ll put this wheel in some other 135mm 
spaced bikes and see if it sits unevenly to one side.   Im 99% positive that 
its in the dropouts correctly.   Thanks for the help everyone! 

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> On Nov 29, 2017, at 9:54 PM, Ian A  wrote:
> 
> Is the axle seating properly in both drop outs? I've run into similar head 
> scratchers before realising the drop out was slightly pinched meaning the 
> wheel wasn't sitting evenly. 
> 
> Also, try reversing the wheel (cassette body to non drive side of frame). See 
> if it still ends up biased to the drive side or not.
> 
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Re: [RBW] WTT: Chico Norm for Albatross

[Mike Williams]

I have an Alba I could sell you DJ

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> My Choco for your Alba. Mine is almost new, but I’d take a well loved Alba. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Enjoying autumn colors

[Mike Williams]

Great photos Takashi,  thank you for sharing

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> On Nov 7, 2017, at 8:56 AM, Ryan Fleming  wrote:
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> I love your pictures. So evocative! Autumn is my favourite season, but in 
> Winnipeg , MB the autumn colours maybe last 6-7 weeks. Depending on the 
> weather, especially the wind our trees can be pretty naked by Halloween. I do 
> love the colours while they last though in cloudy or clear conditions
> 
> "Autumn...the year's last, loveliest smile"  From "Indian Summer" by William 
> Cullen Bryant (or John Howard Bryant who was his brother)
> 
>> On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 8:13:12 AM UTC-6, Takashi wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I visited Aizu area in October and had great time riding there, so I thought 
>> I'd share.
>> Aizu is located at northern part of Japan.
>> It seems that living in the area is tough (not enough flat land for 
>> agriculture, heavy snowfall during winter, etc), but oh the sceneries were 
>> so beautiful.
>> 
>> I was there for two days, cloudy on Saturday and raining all day on Sunday.
>> I enjoyed on both days, even during rain. Quietness, chilly and damp air, 
>> they made sceneries look even more beautiful. (I'm pretty sure that Deacon 
>> Patrick agrees!)
>> 
>> Pictures:
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsm787CSr
>> 
>> Takashi
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Re: [RBW] FS: Soma Supple Vitesse EX 700x42

[Mike Williams]

Tires have sold!   Thank you

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> Hey all for sale is a pair of Soma Supple Vitesse EX, 700x42,  black/ tan 
> sidewall.  Probably ridden a few hundred miles,  lots of life left.  380g/ 
> tire.  They look older than they are due to the dirty sidewall.   Asking $40 
> shipped.   Please message me off list and thank you!   -Mike
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Re: [RBW] What is a Rivvish bike?

[Mike Williams]

Awesome story and reference Bill!   Gave me a chuckle

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> I was at Riv HQ yesterday and had a longish chat with several of the staff.  
> Will, Corey, Roman, Mark, and I waved hi to Vince.  They had been paying 
> attention to my 10x200 thing, and we talked a little bit about that, and we 
> also talked about the Marin Mountains 200k that had been a big part of the 
> focus of my training.  That ride was scheduled for Oct 14, but got moved to 
> the 28th because of the fires, so it's just a few days away.  
> 
> I was telling Will about the bike I'm going to be using, with it's carbon 
> fiber shock fork and disc brakes.  Here's a link to the photo for those who 
> didn't see it before:
> 
> NINER
> 
> I made the comment to Will that it's probably my least Rivvish bike, meaning 
> that it's aluminum, with a carbon shock fork, with disc brakes, etc.  It's 
> 'modern'.  It's 'contemporary', etc.  Will disagreed.  Will said he thinks it 
> is totally Rivvish, because I've considered every part on the bike, and 
> decided on what will work for me, with zero consideration about what others 
> expect me to run.  This fork works for me, so I'm running it.  I want 
> shifters on the steertube, so I made a shifter mount.  I think hydraulic 
> discs are the best, so I'm running them.  I think brifters are lame, so I'm 
> not running them.  I want 650B wheels on a Niner, so there.  I want a dynamo 
> hub, even though I'm running 15mm through axle.  I commissioned a custom lamp 
> mount.  Etc etc. The upshot is that "being Rivvish" does not mean blindly 
> following Riv's style. It means freeing yourself from style-following.  
> 
> Since Will is young, pale and bald, I thought we should paraphrase spoon-boy
> 
> 
> 
> Do not try and bend the style, that's impossible. Instead, only try to 
> realize the truth...there is no style. Then you'll see that it is not the 
> style that bends, it is only yourself.
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Re: [RBW] Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[Mike Williams]

I second the Soma Osprey bar.   Comes in 25.4 clamp, silver, 710mm wide, 40 
degree sweep( Jones bars are 45 degree sweep).   The Soma Osprey is a really 
great feeling bar!!

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> I love the Jones and have the 710 Loop on my Joe. When the announced the 
> Jones Loop 2.5, I ordered one immediately and will probably use it on my 
> Beargrease this winter. I have a 64 Clem L on order and will be using a Soma 
> Osprey on that bike. The Osprey is very close to the Jones, without the loop 
> feature. On anything that will be used for long distances, I really like the 
> loop because it gives a couple of extra hand positions.
> 
> Jay
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Alp rides calendar

[Mike Williams]

Hey there Richard,   Could you re-send that link to the Jobst Brandt interview 
with Grant when you get a chance?   I'd love to read it,  just didnt see it.   
Thank you!!

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> On Oct 10, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Thank you! I look forward to re-reading it.
> 
> Do you, or does anyone else, recall when this was published?
> 
> Patrick
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 2:58 PM, R Shannon  wrote:
>> Patrick, attached is Grant's 1994 interview with Jobst Brandt, published in 
>> Rivendell Reader No. 6. (Asking forgiveness from Grant for reproducing 
>> without permission. Please don't sue me!).
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Richard
>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>> Rich: please do post the RR Jobst article, or a link to it, when you get a 
>>> chance. I'd like to see it again. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> An aside: I find it rather amusing that Jobst's 700C bikes have proportions 
>>> that look like my 559-wheeled bikes; his must have had 70 cm c-c seat tubes.
>>> 
>>> Patrick Moore, who hopes to do some overbiking* later today.
>>> 
>>> * On 700C X 51 mm tires on flat sandy and gravelly terrain that has been 
>>> compacted by recent rains.
>>> 
 On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:02 AM, RichS  wrote:
 Talk about underbiking. Wow! Thanks Patrick.
 
 You're correct. Grant did an interview with Jobst and published it in a 
 RR. Not able to post it until tonight or tomorrow, but will unless someone 
 else beats me to it.
 
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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam over Mt Tam

[Mike Williams]

Great write up Christian!   What size QB is that?

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> Nice detailed ride! Love the pictures!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Medium Mountain Mixtes -- coming any day now

[Mike Williams]

Thank you Bill!   Much appreciated

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> On Aug 25, 2017, at 1:17 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Got it; thanks.
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mike Williams and Patrick Moore inquired about geometry and wheel sizes and 
>> price, etc.  
>> 
>> This is a Rosco Bubbe project build.  They are making a few frames to fit 
>> leftover forks, as they did with all Rosco Bubbe project bikes.  This 
>> "model" was headed up by Roman.  It is one size, 54cm, and it goes with 
>> leftover 650B Appaloosa forks.  It's a 650B bike.  It'll have clearance for 
>> ~2.2" tires.  If you were interested in buying one, you were told to reach 
>> out to Roman via email.  Roman sent out a geo chart to those of us who 
>> reached out to him.  I paid $800 for my frame and fork.  No headset, no BB, 
>> no seatpost.  Frame and fork.  It's a blue that was used recently on Clems.  
>> The newsletter said there were a couple more left, so anybody who thinks 
>> they might want one should email Roman.  Even if you are just compulsively 
>> curious and want to see the geometry chart, email Roman and I'm sure he'll 
>> share it with you.  My saddle height is 75.5cm, and I'm at the upper end of 
>> the range of people that Riv recommends will fit it.  I've mapped it out 
>> against my other bikes, and have elected to go with drop bars.  I've wanted 
>> a drop bar mixte for many years.  
>> 
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> 
>> On Friday, August 25, 2017 at 8:58:19 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 for this request. Also, how fat a tire; is it 559? Cost?
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Mike Williams <mkernan...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Anyone have any geo info on the mountain mixtes?   Sizes?  What wheel size 
>>>> corresponds with bike size?   I cant find much?   Thanks!   -Mike
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 25, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Paul Clifton <paulgc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ETD of Tuesday for me! But it'll probably take through the weekend to 
>>>>> build it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3x8 or 9 with Shimano Barends. I only have a 9 speed cassette around, so 
>>>>> it's either 8 speed index, or 9 speed friction. I haven't had index 
>>>>> shifting in so long that I'm tempted, but I'm about to put brifters on my 
>>>>> Boulder, so that'll probably scratch that itch. No plans for fenders at 
>>>>> the moment because I want to max out the tires for a super cushy ride. If 
>>>>> Riv had offered the basketball tire in 650x2.0" about a week earlier, I'd 
>>>>> have bought them, but for now it's the 1.9" Gravel Kings. I think it'll 
>>>>> take up to 2.2", but I couldn't find anything that fat without pretty 
>>>>> aggressive treads.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The real question, though, is where to shred first!
>>>>> I'm excited to see the first 200 miles you put on yours Bill. Do you 
>>>>> already have a route picked out?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul in ATL
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 7:47:37 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>>>> I'm eagerly anticipating the arrival of a Medium Mountain Mixte.  I need 
>>>>>> it for my 10x200mile challenge.  The BLUG revealed that it will have an 
>>>>>> all-time Rivendell first:  for the first time ever, there will be a 
>>>>>> stock Rivendell with an ARCHED seatstay bridge.  That'll clearly make us 
>>>>>> much faster.  Haha.  OK, it's not a performance thing, but it should 
>>>>>> make fender setup look really nice.  We'll see how that turns out.  I've 
>>>>>> got a 3x8 drivetrain ready to go for mine, but in my morning ride 
>>>>>> meditations, I started musing about using a 2x10 drivetrain instead.  
>>>>>> I'm still leaning towards the 3x8, but it will be a build-day decision.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>>>> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Medium Mountain Mixtes -- coming any day now

[Mike Williams]

Anyone have any geo info on the mountain mixtes?   Sizes?  What wheel size 
corresponds with bike size?   I cant find much?   Thanks!   -Mike

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> On Aug 25, 2017, at 7:49 AM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
> 
> ETD of Tuesday for me! But it'll probably take through the weekend to build 
> it.
> 
> 3x8 or 9 with Shimano Barends. I only have a 9 speed cassette around, so it's 
> either 8 speed index, or 9 speed friction. I haven't had index shifting in so 
> long that I'm tempted, but I'm about to put brifters on my Boulder, so 
> that'll probably scratch that itch. No plans for fenders at the moment 
> because I want to max out the tires for a super cushy ride. If Riv had 
> offered the basketball tire in 650x2.0" about a week earlier, I'd have bought 
> them, but for now it's the 1.9" Gravel Kings. I think it'll take up to 2.2", 
> but I couldn't find anything that fat without pretty aggressive treads.
> 
> The real question, though, is where to shred first!
> I'm excited to see the first 200 miles you put on yours Bill. Do you already 
> have a route picked out?
> 
> Paul in ATL
> 
>> On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 7:47:37 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>> I'm eagerly anticipating the arrival of a Medium Mountain Mixte.  I need it 
>> for my 10x200mile challenge.  The BLUG revealed that it will have an 
>> all-time Rivendell first:  for the first time ever, there will be a stock 
>> Rivendell with an ARCHED seatstay bridge.  That'll clearly make us much 
>> faster.  Haha.  OK, it's not a performance thing, but it should make fender 
>> setup look really nice.  We'll see how that turns out.  I've got a 3x8 
>> drivetrain ready to go for mine, but in my morning ride meditations, I 
>> started musing about using a 2x10 drivetrain instead.  I'm still leaning 
>> towards the 3x8, but it will be a build-day decision.  
>> 
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Stolen - 64 cm Atlantis - Phoenix

[Mike Williams]

So glad youre getting your bikes back Todd,   Getting your bike stolen stinks.

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> Thank you, Carla!  I received good news this week - the Phoenix PD found my 
> bikes at a local pawn shop and took them into custody.  The wheels of justice 
> turn very slowly here and it looks like it will be 3 months before I get them 
> back (no conjugal visits allowed :)), but am happy that I will eventually 
> have them back.
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>> Todd I hope you find your Atlantis!
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Re: [RBW] Warm weather bike clothing, long sleeved

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Thanks to everyone for the ideas!   I might give that linen a go!  -Mike

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> 
> Linen. Long sleeve buttondown. Open weave, enough sun protection, and 
> supremely comfortable in the heat. Natural or white is coolest, but a French 
> blue looks pretty snappy too and won't show dirt as much.
> 
> All the flappy airflow of a burnouse as long as you do not need pockets and 
> do not tuck it in.
> 
> https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/product/men-premium-linen-long-sleeve-shirt-183593COL00SMA002000.html?gclid=Cj0KEQjwv_fKBRCG8a3ao-OQuZ8BEiQAvpHp6CCoUla2DCWR2yD2TRErxoAE5ngKUMp_Fah1ZFkB9UEaArF88P8HAQ
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> Is a very inexpensive source. Not musa.
> 
> 
> Other ideas: snap button cowboy shirts, guayabera shirts, and the other 
> options already presented. If you can live with long-ish sleeves, a Reyn 
> Spooner Hawaiian shirt is an excellent choice as well.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
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Re: [RBW] Help identify bottle holder from Roman's staff bikes

[Mike Williams]

Hey Nathaniel,  if you ride with a basket,  you can strap it to that,  it keeps 
it a little more outta the way of your knees.   -Mike

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> Another thing to consider is they get in the way of your knees if you climb 
> out of the saddle a lot. I climb like that and that's the reason I don't use 
> bartenders, every single fricken time I get up out of the saddle my knee hits 
> those things. I picked up one of those rock climbing chalk holders from a 
> garage sale and tried it out. so luckily it wasn't an expensive experiment
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Re: [RBW] 650B Atlantis

[Mike Williams]

Doug,  its impressive to hear this story coming from you!   More than anyone on 
the list,  I think of you as more resolute about your Atlantis being capable 
for all of the kind of riding that you love to do.   When we all talk about 
different models or even brands and ride characteristics, you always pop into 
my head as' yeah, but is it going to offer me anything that my Atlantis 
doesnt'? And I totally agree with that reasoning!  Are you going to be in the 
N+1 crowd?!  -Mike

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> 
> On my way to the West Point Inn weekend, I stopped by RBWHQ just to hang out 
> & check out all the new goodies.  As luck would have it, Roman was working 
> with a potential customer, helping him sort out the Appaloosa, Atlantis & 
> Clem question.  The guy had been riding old bikes for a long time & felt it 
> was about time to get something really nice.  After he took off on Grant's 
> personal Appaloosa (he intends to commute so all the junk on the bike was a 
> good simulated load), Roman walked me thru all the changes on the new 
> Atlantis & offered to slap a saddle on a 56 cm , 650B.  Since I really wasn't 
> buying anything, I declined the ride.  
> 
> After a while the guy came back, thoroughly smitten with the Appaloosa, and 
> asking about what was the next level up?  Of course it's the Atlantis, and 
> the 56 cm 650B was the right size.  So it got the saddle, all checked out & 
> away the customer went.  On his return, while he & Roman discussed the 
> differences between Atlantis & Appaloosa, and Roman worked up a couple of 
> sample builds for him, I took off on the Atlantis, "just for fun".  Oh boy, 
> was that a most pleasant surprise!
> 
> I've had my 58 cm, 700c wheeled Atlantis since 2003.  We've covered a lot of 
> ground.  By the time I got to the end of the building, I thought "this is 
> really different, in a really GOOD way".  The bike felt more responsive in 
> all respects.  It was shod with chubbier tires than the 40 mms on my bike.  
> Of course it had no load, just a small front rack.  Being new, all the clicks 
> clicked perfectly and the brakes braked.  Still, it was the RIDE that was 
> noticeable.  
> 
> The smaller wheel size must have something to do with it.  The chainstays are 
> 2 cm longer than mine.  The TT has a tad more slope.  What other subtle 
> improvements have been made to take an already fine riding bike & turn it 
> into a magical experience?  Normally I'm quite skeptical of small changes 
> making big differences in already nice things, but in this case it's 
> definitely change for the better.  
> 
> BTW, Roman found a green Appaloosa frame that the customer couldn't take his 
> eyes off of.  My guess is he's close to New Bike Day.  Maybe Roman will post 
> photos?
> 
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Re: [RBW] Matching Atlantis color for touchups/ repaint

[Mike Williams]

Great!   Thank you Birdman and John G.

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> You can order touch up paint from Waterford:
> 
> http://gunnarbikes.com/site/order/touchup/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom fork builder suggestion

[Mike Williams]

+1 for clockworks,   Joel is great to deal with

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> I've had Clockwork  bikes build me a new fork for a Velo Orange Camargue. The 
> thing was a piece of work.
> 
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>> Haus Bicycles wrote:
>> I'm thinking of having a threaded 26" canti 1" fork built for a side project 
>> I'm working on.  Do y'all have any suggestions based on the best combination 
>> of:
>> 
>> Price and turnaround?
>> 
>> Think cast crown with clearance for at least 2.25  (not segmented)
>> 
>> 
>> Also, if there are any production options that I'm missing other than 
>> unicrownplease point me to easy street.
>> 
>> Thanks!!
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Re: [RBW] Key Characteristics of a #mannyride

[Mike Williams]

Well Daniel,  you just gotta come out to the west coast and find out man!

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> For those who have participated, what makes a #mannyride a #mannyride?
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Re: [RBW] FS: 650b tires. Schwalbe/ Compass

[Mike Williams]

Hey Zach,  switchbacks are sold.-Mike

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> Any chance those Switchback Hills are still available?
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Re: [RBW] FS: Four Irish Straps

[Mike Williams]

I'll take em Michael

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> On Apr 20, 2017, at 4:08 PM, Michael Ullmer  wrote:
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> Spring cleaning turned up four Irish Straps I don't remember purchasing. One 
> of them is cut shorter than the rest.
> 
> $20 shipped CONUS.
> 
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 61cm Atlantis

[Mike Williams]

Hey Joe,  i sorta bit off more than I could chew in getting a 64 Atlantis,  im 
~6ft,  89.5 pbh,  so pretty close to your measurements.   Ive ridden a 61,  and 
it felt small, so I went 64.   I pretty much always look at the Riv pbh chart 
and if im between sizes I tend to go larger

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Re: [RBW] WTB: 61cm Atlantis

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Ah,  no worries man!

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Nitto seatposts/ stems/ Brooks....... lots o goodies

[Mike Williams]

Oh yeah,  sorry about that.   Standard, tan sidewalls

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> Are the RTPs standard or extralights?
> 
> Thanks,
> Ryan
> 
>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 at 11:19:54 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote:
>> Hello group:   Winter cleaning,  some parts for sale,  gently used,  unless 
>> noted new. prices include shipping.  Please contact me off list.  Thanks 
>> yall!
>> Brooks B17 special,  black,  hardly used $90
>> 
>> Brooks B17 , brown,  used, but lots of life $50
>> 
>> Velo Orange microfiber saddle, brown $25
>> 
>> 2 Sugino 46t chainrings, 110 bcd $15 each
>> 
>> 1 pair Schwalbe Racing Ralph 26x2.25 , brand new!!! performance line, 
>> $35/pair
>> 
>> 1 pair Compass Rat Trap Pass,  very lightly used 26x2.3, $100/pair
>> 
>> 2 Nitto 65 seatposts 27.2x 250mm $50 each
>> 
>> White Industries DOS freewheel, used, 16/19, $50
>> 
>> White Industries DOS freewheel, gently used, 17/19 $60
>> 
>> I pair Shimano bar end shfter pods $10
>> 
>> Nitto Technomic Deluxe 26.0 clamp, 100mm $35
>> 
>> Nitto Technomic Deluxe 26.0 clamp, 80mm $35
>> 
>> Nitto Technomic stem 25.4 clamp, 100mm, $25
>> 
>> Nitto Technomic stem 25.4 clamp, 80mm, no bolt, $20
>> 
>> Velo Orange quill stem, 26.0 clamp, 100mm, $20
>> 
>> One Meishas cork grip,  free!  Just pay shipping.
>> 
>> Thanks for looking!
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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto seatposts/ stems/ Brooks....... lots o goodies

[Mike Williams]

Hey Eric,  youre up in the Davis area right?   I might be able to get the 
saddle shipped out today.  My paypal is mkernanwilli...@gmail.com,  just shoot 
me your shipping address.

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> PM sent about the black B17. 
> 
> –Eric N
> 
> 
>> On Jan 10, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Michael Williams  
>> wrote:
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>> Hello group:   Winter cleaning,  some parts for sale,  gently used,  unless 
>> noted new. prices include shipping.  Please contact me off list.  Thanks 
>> yall!
>> 
>> Brooks B17 special,  black,  hardly used $90
>> 
>> Brooks B17 , brown,  used, but lots of life $50
>> 
>> Velo Orange microfiber saddle, brown $25
>> 
>> 2 Sugino 46t chainrings, 110 bcd $15 each
>> 
>> 1 pair Schwalbe Racing Ralph 26x2.25 , brand new!!! performance line, 
>> $35/pair
>> 
>> 1 pair Compass Rat Trap Pass,  very lightly used 26x2.3, $100/pair
>> 
>> 2 Nitto 65 seatposts 27.2x 250mm $50 each
>> 
>> White Industries DOS freewheel, used, 16/19, $50
>> 
>> White Industries DOS freewheel, gently used, 17/19 $60
>> 
>> I pair Shimano bar end shfter pods $10
>> 
>> Nitto Technomic Deluxe 26.0 clamp, 100mm $35
>> 
>> Nitto Technomic Deluxe 26.0 clamp, 80mm $35
>> 
>> Nitto Technomic stem 25.4 clamp, 100mm, $25
>> 
>> Nitto Technomic stem 25.4 clamp, 80mm, no bolt, $20
>> 
>> Velo Orange quill stem, 26.0 clamp, 100mm, $20
>> 
>> One Meishas cork grip,  free!  Just pay shipping.
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam S24O in the Santa Cruz Mountains

[Mike Williams]

Awesme story,  thanks for sharing Patch!

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> Thought I'd share a few photos, and some videos, of camping out in the Santa 
> Cruz (CA) Mountains on a Quickbeam a few weeks ago.
> 
> The route was originally to incorporate more dirt than it did in the end; but 
> there had just passed some rain and I didn't feel great about my rig on 
> non-maintained and technically private dirt (mud) roads. Which is fine. Still 
> a blast. About 55mi total and about 6500 ft of climbing. Sugino 40/32 and a 
> WI 16/18 (which I need to switch out for a 16/19 because in the 32/18 the 
> axle nuts just hang off the end of the drop-out, and while I've experience 
> nigh-zero slippage, it still doesn't sit well with me), most of the ride was 
> in the 32/18.
> 
> I drove up from LA to SC, stocked up, and started up HWY 1 at the bottom of 
> Gazos Creek Road and took it up to Big Basin, with a few meandering trails 
> in-between. Much of Gazos is gravel and dirt, and steep, and wet and muddy 
> and a whole lot of frustration and fun. Hiked a little, biked a little, drank 
> a little wine. The Redwood canopy kept everything damp and wet all the way up 
> the hill. Once out of the river valley slog, trees spread out slightly and 
> things warmed up for a little until I dove back into wet and dark. The road 
> is beautiful. There's a boy scout treehouse along the way. 
> 
> I was virtually alone at Jay Camp, and got the best hike-bike sight under a 
> cluster of redwoods. Did a night hike to the waterfall (small) nearby, warmed 
> up on mezcal and two layers of wool leggings, two wool socks, three thin wool 
> baselayers, a down vest and a synthetic down pullover, neck garter and 
> gloves, all wrapped up in a 20 deg (supposedly) bag with a ThermaRest inside. 
> Much frost in the morning but I was snug all night. I've been in LA the past 
> year and have already gotten soft!
> 
> I love S24Os because it's not totally ridiculous to pack a burrito, which I 
> lunched on the next day after climbing up the 236 to the 9 and across Skyline 
> Boulevard to Horseshoe Lake, quaint, perfect, in the Skyline Open Space. The 
> 236 is a really perfect winding climb and descent through the forests, along 
> a ridge and back down. This time of year there was little traffic, and the 
> views were epic. 9 and Skyline were a little less enjoyable; not a whole lot 
> of shoulder and frequent fast-travelling cars. Still hard to complain though, 
> really. 
> 
> The winding descent down Alpine is a beautiful pastoral, through rolling 
> grass hills past cattle, down into forest and back up out and down again 
> through Loma Mar to Pescadero.
> 
> Decided to stay an extra night in Butano State Park (closed for the season, 
> technically) before a mile or so back to the ice-encrusted car the next 
> morning for a sunrise drive up HWY 1 to San Francisco and Oakland to for a 
> holiday visit with friends, shiverin and grinnin and stinkin like all hell.
> 
> Love,
> Patch
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Sugino XD2 crank arm( left/ non drive side)

[Mike Williams]

Thanks Richard,  I'll check those out

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> Try Universal Cycles. I purchased the same arm from them. Ben's Cycles may be 
> another source.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

[Mike Williams]

Holy Daniel!  That sounds like the dream bike!

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> 25" steel 135 rear 150 front titanium forked Rohloff modded Plus in Northern 
> VT open for test rides. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: An un-obstructive front handle bar bag for boscos?

[Mike Williams]

Hey Annie,   I dont have one,  but saw one yesterday and the Detours ' Rainier 
Handlebar duffle bag' looked really neat.   It has some well designed zippers/ 
pockets on the side and inside and it looks like it goes on/ off in a cinch; 
with 2 buckles that are adjustable.  The tan is a really nice color too.  Worth 
checking out.   -Mike

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> On Nov 27, 2016, at 8:42 AM, anniebikes  wrote:
> 
> Nick, nice set up. I am an experienced bike tourer and in recent years I've 
> gravitated towards the upfront loading firstly, then add rear baggage or only 
> the tent when I need the extra space. The Clementine's weight is forcing me 
> to consider exactly how much stuff I need to carry on future trips. I have 
> not tried camping with her yet - that will come in 2017. I still prefer a 
> very lightweight handle bar bag, something I can easily detach and bring with 
> me.
> 
>> On Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 12:07:09 AM UTC-5, Nick Payne wrote:
>> I just carry lightweight plus valuable stuff in the handlebar bag - 
>> raincoat, camera, wallet, passport, etc, and take it with me at cafe or food 
>> buying stops. Heavy stuff goes in the front lowrider panniers. Here's my 
>> touring bike in Switzerland earlier this year. Ortlieb panniers and 
>> handlebar bag, Carradice Camper Longflap saddlebag:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On day rides I generally just use a smaller Carradice Pendle saddlebag and 
>> don't use a handlebar bag.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sunday, 27 November 2016 14:14:23 UTC+11, anniebikes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Both those attachment systems would probably work as they cinch close to 
>>> the stem. I have to think about how I want to carry weight on the 
>>> front...more within the handle bag bag so I can justify the cost...or 
>>> invest in low rider type rack and use a lightweight style handle bar bag. 
>>> Lots to think about this winter! Thanks for your ideas.
>>> 
 On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 9:42:54 PM UTC-5, Nick Payne wrote:
 I have both Arkel and Ortlieb handlebar bags, and neither of them obstruct 
 any hand positions. The mounts on both have a total width of about 8cm, 
 though the Arkel can be adjusted slightly narrower than that if you 
 desire. I find the Ortlieb bag slightly easier to detach from its mount 
 than the Arkel.
 
 https://www.arkel-od.com/en/spare-hb-clamps.html
 
 https://www.ortlieb.com/en/technisches/lenkertaschen/
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Re: [RBW] FS/ FT 2 46T chainrings( 110bcd)

[Mike Williams]

Yes Ryan,  both made by Sugino.   -Mike

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> Both Silver,  Im pretty sure both Sugino,  let me get back to you on the 
> maker Ryan
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>> Color? Maker?
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Re: [RBW] FS/ FT 2 46T chainrings( 110bcd)

[Mike Williams]

Yes Ryan,  both Sugino made

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Re: [RBW] FS/ FT 2 46T chainrings( 110bcd)

[Mike Williams]

Both Silver,  Im pretty sure both Sugino,  let me get back to you on the maker 
Ryan

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Re: [RBW] FS: 62 SimpleOne

[Mike Williams]

Hey Mark,   Could I come check out your simpleone maybe tomorrow ( tuesday) 
afternoon?  What neighborhood are you in?   Thanks!   -Mike 

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> On Sep 10, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Mark Benedetto  wrote:
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> Howdy,
> I'm selling my 62cm green SimpleOne.  I rode it only a couple hundred miles 
> in a few years, so it's time to let it go :(
> There are only a couple nicks in the paint, as shown, and I'm the original 
> owner.
> 
> I scavenged the handlebars for another build, but I have an 11cm/190mm nitto 
> stem and a single-bolt seat post not pictured that are included.  I also have 
> a black albatross bar and bosco bullmoose bar we could add if there's 
> interest.
> 
> Setup:
> 42t FSA Vero crank
> 16-18t White Industries DOS freewheel
> Paul Love Levers 2.5, silver
> Shimano Deore V-brakes
> Schwalbe Marathon 47 tires
> Nitto Tallux Stem 11cm (not pictured)
> Standard single-bolt seat post (probably Nitto but couldn't readily determine 
> brand from the markings)
> The total build was $1600 in 2012, so I'm thinking $1000 is fair.
> 
> I'm in San Francisco if you'd like to check it out.  A test ride might be 
> possible if we throw on a temp handlebar.  Other pics available upon request.
> 
> I'm open to shipping as well.
> 
> Thanks everyone
> 
> Mark
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[RBW] Bags

[Mike Williams]

Hey there Clayton.   Im a fellow rbw list member.  Did you used to live in SF?  
 I might have exchanged some emails with you before.   I saw some of your bags 
on instagram,  are you selling them?  Specifically the front( stuinniker?) and 
long top tube bag? They look really nice/ well thought out.  Cheers!   -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Atlantis, double top tube, $1450

[Mike Williams]

Hey Brencho!I do remember that jam!   How you doin these says bro?   
Whatcha been up to?  We should ride soon

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> On May 11, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Brencho  wrote:
> 
> i wish i was a little bit taller, i wish i was a baller, I wish I had a girl 
> who looked good, i would call her, something something. remember that song? 
> 
> sick bike mike! you're gonna make some tall fella's dream come true. 
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 11:44:31 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote:
>> hey group,   Up for sale is a 64cm Atlantis,  2 top tubes,   ~ 18months 
>> young!   The bike is just a bit too big.  Asking $1450 for frame/ fork. 
>> Buyer pays for packing/ shipping.   If at all interested,  message me off 
>> list please!   Thanks!  -Mike
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Re: [RBW] Re: Possible FS: 2TT 64 Atlantis

[Mike Williams]

5'11+,   89.5 pbh

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> For reference, what height/pbh are you?
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day!

[Mike Williams]

Great story Amit!   Way to be the comnector!

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> On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:30 AM, Amit Singh  wrote:
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> Hi Everyone!
> 
> Here's a cheerful story. Please give a warm welcome to my dear friend Dan 
> Woods!
> 
> Dan first moved to California and sold his car 3 years back - so he's been a 
> full time bicycle commuter and loves to ride in general. He currently rides 
> an aluminum frame "Motobecane" that's too big for him, a hand-me-down that 
> was originally purchased on BikesDirect.com. He loves his bicycle dearly, 
> despite problems with everything ranging from brakes, crankset, headset, 
> handlebars, brakes and shifters, etc. We did a complete overhaul and replaced 
> everything on his bike 6 months ago.
> 
> A few days ago I saw the message re: Bleriot for Sale posted by Eric Norris. 
> I contacted Eric on behalf of Dan and asked him if the bicycle was still 
> available, worked out pricing and pitched the idea to Dan, who was all for it.
> 
> Dan and I drove to Eric's house yesterday to check out the Bleriot. It was 
> the first time Dan had ridden a quality bicycle. He pushed off, rode a while 
> and returned with a smile on his face like he wasn't sure what just happened 
> - was he supposed to feel this good on a bicycle? Was this too good to be 
> true? Should he even be smiling or take this moment for reflection and be 
> serious? It was awkward. And joyous to behold.
> 
> While Dan was riding this bicycle it looked like the bike and him were made 
> for each other - it was BANG ON PERFECT. Wow. We made a few quick adjustments 
> to the saddle and handlebar height, took a tour of Eric's incredible bicycle 
> collection (phew, maybe the nicest bicycles I've ever seen in one place!), 
> settled on payment and drove back. I was going to drop Dan off to his 
> apartment but he asked if we could go back to my house so he could ride home. 
> I obliged, gladly.
> 
> After a few fender adjustments, reinflating the rear tire and a quick seat 
> post adjustment he was on his way.
> 
> Dan's text messages to me over the last 12 hours are:
> 
> "Amazing#!!!:%/6/=%/" "So fast. So smooth" "Serious style"
> 
> I asked him if he was going to sleep with his bicycle and he told me "That's 
> None of Your Business!"
> 
> Dan rode his bicycle to work this morning, and instead of locking it outside 
> his building like he normally does the Bleriot is in his cubical with him. He 
> sent me a picture.
> 
> He says this bicycle is a blessing and that he loves it.
> 
> Anyway, I just wanted to take a few moments to introduce Dan to the Rivendell 
> Owners Bunch, congratulate him on his new ride and wish him a lifetime of 
> safe, happy and amazing adventures riding his new bicycle!
> 
> Pictures to prove it happened:
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/Dt3Kgo
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> https://flic.kr/p/Dp9r9P
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sometimes a photo is better than a descriptive subject line.

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Way to go Cecily!   So happy to hear you are able to just get a small cruise 
in!  Best of luck in your recovery :)!  -Mike

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> Congratulations on getting back on the bike, regardless of distance.  It's 
> quality of the experience that matters, and this one sounded especially 
> sweet.  As they say, "Pictures prove it happened".  Keep at it.
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 4:54:00 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, it's a selfie. But it's a selfie with Rizzo, my Betty Foy. I haven't 
>> been able to ride in over a year, but the weather was so nice today (though 
>> a bit chilly), I decided to take a chance to see how the new knee would 
>> handle a short ride. I didn't go more than 4km from home, and I rode very 
>> slowly, but the point is I rode my bike. 
>> 
>> For Clayton and anyone else who's facing knee surgery (or any other kind of 
>> surgery that's keeping you off the bike), I can only say DO IT. The recovery 
>> won't be easy, but the reward will be so great that they won't be able to 
>> pry the smile off your face for weeks. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS/FT Silver and Gold 52 Bombadil

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Damn!   What a deal!

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>> Slight price adjustment. $1000 for frame/fork/headset/bottom bracket and 
>> seatpost. $1150 for the frame set and wheelset and choice of tires. $1600 
>> complete minus saddle, racks, bottle cages, and peddles.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016

[Mike Williams]

Garth,  I dont know you,  but damn I always enjoy your posts/ replies! 

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> A few years ago there was a very funny post here by a good Bay Area customer 
> who owned a few Rivendells and went to Walnut Creek to buy their latest 
> design. (I think) Vince told him he had enough bikes and sent him home.  
> Wouldn't sell it to him.  Priceless. 
> 
> On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 5:24:54 AM UTC-8, Garth wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>"Just trust us, we know what's best for you" .Sounds familiar , huh ? 
>>  Ahahahahaahah .   Isn't it funny how "best" is always changing , todays 
>> best is tomorrow's relagation to also-ran.  This is no specific to anyone in 
>> particular , really humanity itself .  Ever fickle, undecided. Change is 
>> applauded one day and cursed the next. 
>> 
>>Just who can you trust , who truly knows "best" ?   H , who ever said 
>> there is a best, worst, good, bad, etc. etc. ?  Take away the polarity and 
>> what do you have ?  Perfect stillness, which contains All and is subject to 
>> none. 
>> 
>>   Yes.  . . . it is all-ways a good day to Ride with a wondrous , 
>> inexplicable smile !
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Re: [RBW] PSA 65cm Hilsen on CL

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Dayuuum!

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> Seems like a super good price
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> http://lascruces.craigslist.org/bik/5354825157.html
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Re: [RBW] FS: 62cm Rivendell Saluki (butterscotch)

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Hey Rob,  any any chance youd sell Frame/ fork only??Thanks.  -Mike

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> On Nov 15, 2015, at 10:36 PM, Rob  wrote:
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> Argh, I hate to do this, but...circumstances.
> 
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskoeejxJ
> 
> Frame: 62cm Rivendell Saluki (butterscotch)
> Wheels: Hand built by G Cycles.
> Rims: 650B 32H front, 36H rear Compass Cycles Gran Bois
> Spokes: DT
> Hubs: SON20 delux generator front, White Industries Mi5 rear with new 
> bearings.
> Skewers: Pitlocks with matching keys.
> Tires: Compass Cycle Babyshoe Pass 42mm
> Fenders: Gilles Berthoud Composite
> Bottom Bracket: Phil
> Crankset: TA Cyclotourist ProVis 5
> Chainrings: TA 26-36-46
> Pedals: MKS Grip Kings
> Cassette: Rivendell IRC 8-spd 12-34
> Chain: Connectix Stainless Steel
> FD: Campagnolo Super Record
> RD: XTR Rapid Rise
> Brifters: Campagnolo Daytona 10-spd
> Brakes: Paul Centerpulls (polished)
> Brake pads: Koolstop
> Handlebar: Compass Cycle 41cm Randonneur
> Stem: Nitto Dirt Drop
> Bell: Brass
> Seatpost: Nitto S83
> Seat: Berthoud Aspin (natural)
> Seatbag: Berthoud 786 (grey) with Klickfix attachment.
> Front Rack: Mark's Rack
> Basket: Wald Medium
> Front Light: SON Edelux I LED
> Rear Light: Philips Saferide LED
> Rear Rack: Nitto Big Rack (old style)
> Kickstand: ClickStand.
> 
> This Saluki, #0159, was originally built up when new by Jeff Ferguson, and 
> then owned by Ron Blumenthal for a year. I bought it from Ron in 2010. I have 
> ridden it pretty much daily since then. 
> 
> Substantial renovation August 2015 included rebuilt wheels (new rims and 
> spokes, renewing bearings on rear hub); new 36T chainring; new stainless 
> chain; new cassette; new RD pulleys; new brake pads; and Phil factory rebuild 
> of the bottom bracket. The bike has, for all intents and purposes, been 
> re-newed. 
> 
> Still, there are a few caveats: There is one dent on the frame--on the 
> downtube acquired in shipping from the East Coast when I bought the bike in 
> 2010. The cotton diamond wrap on the bars is due for replacement. The 
> Ergopower brifters will need a rebuild in another year. 
> 
> This is a dream bike set up with what I think (and many agree) are the best 
> performing, best looking and most durable components available. 
> 
> I'm asking $3,295, plus shipping from Seattle, for the bike as shown in the 
> photos. 
> 
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Re: [RBW] My new project, The DirtDance Spinnaker Bag.

[Mike Williams]

Looks super cool and functional,  well done man!   No wobble when its loaded 
up?   Also what tires/ bars on your Atlantis?? 

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Re: [RBW] My new project, The DirtDance Spinnaker Bag.

[Mike Williams]

Sounds awesome!   Pictures man!!

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> I'm actually exhausted, and feel a little sick to my stomach. Too much coffee 
> (my beloved addiction) and a new serious obsession. I developed a new kind of 
> bikepacking bag that addresses problems I have had. 
> There were several surprises of perfect serendipity that occurred. I love it 
> when it happens, and it is happening more and more with my projects. 
> Serendipity is THE golden moment of creativity! (A guiding hand, a ghost? Or 
> does my subconscious see solutions and combinations before my conscious mind 
> sees them?) 
> Ok, back to the bag. It weighs the same as a small Wald basket without the 
> baskets mounting hardware, but with three times the capacity. It is intended 
> to sit on top of my front rack and hold my tent and sleeping pad, as well as 
> some odds and ends. It holds various sized loads very tightly, with no 
> shimmy, shaking, squeaking, rattling, shifting or ANY load movement. It is 
> very aerodynamic, considering. The bag only has one buckle. There are no 
> compression straps in or around the bag. The bottom of the bag is padded. The 
> base plate has a very simple and integrated low profile quick release, that 
> snaps on the rack instantly, with no moving parts and leaves no hardware left 
> on the rack when removed (It is very strong and stands no chance of 
> jettisoning the load accidentally). There is a built in spring tensioner that 
> is part of the base plate, designed out of ABS that helps keep the load under 
> tension. There are no moving parts. At camp, it expands to HUGE (three times 
> the size of a small Wald basket) and stays wide open, sitting tall, while 
> mounted on top of the rack, making a great pantry. It then zips shut to keep 
> out the critters, while you take a walk to the toilet or take a safety break. 
> If there is a strong tailwind, it can become a spinnaker. When cold, it can 
> block the wind that hits my thighs and lower torso. When empty and stowed on 
> the bike, it is tiny, about the size of a TV dinner box. 
> I need to make a new one, that is not my reused, homemade basket bag, but a 
> bag designed from the start. Due to serendipity, I found some new things to 
> fix and add. I can take some of the weight out of the base plate too. 
> I am pretty stoked, all in all. 
> I REALLY need a new walking foot sewing machine to clean up my sewing. My one 
> hundred dollar, ten year old Singer is not designed for such brutal projects. 
> It is very frustrating to use. I am going to buy one, as soon as my desire 
> wins over the responsibility to my wallet.
> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] The Riv Allrounder at Zion

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Wow! Thanks for sharing Addison,  looks like really great riding!

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> On Oct 28, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Addison Wilhite  wrote:
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> Hello all,
> My wife's family has owned land adjacent to Zion for decades and we made a 
> quick trip down there.  I took the Allrounder for the riding from our farm up 
> to the back entrance to the park and the "guacamole trail."  Thought I'd 
> share photos from a couple of posts.  Enjoy!
> 
> http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2015/10/would-you-like-guacamole-with-that-trip.html
> 
> http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2015/10/fall-break-quick-trip-to-zion.html
> 
> Best,
> 
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Re: [RBW] Bikepacking Pikes Peak

[Mike Williams]

Deacon!   Great photos and love the video!   You looked to truly have enjoyed 
yourself.

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> On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Beautiful; you are indeed blessed to have such riding near home. I hope your 
> head is better.
> 
> Is your beard longer than it was in August?
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>> All bikepacking trips are adventure. Toss in brain injury and they're all on 
>> the edge adventure. This trip was made to avoid the construction noise of 
>> the town puddle, just a few hundred yards from our home) from blowing up my 
>> brain. Life is a gamble, and I both won and lost this round. I likely would 
>> have done better staying here, as construction was less invasive and much 
>> shorter than anticipated.
>> 
>> Two minutes into the ride, riding out of Green Mountain Falls, I was run off 
>> the road by a Century Link truck. I'd taken the lane because it's a narrow 
>> two lane road. The oncoming car also had to stop and pull off the road. That 
>> triggered my adrenaline and I dealt with the recovery from that the whole 
>> trip. Because of the construction I persevered on, hoping to recover 
>> quickly. I'm home after 4 days, and still recovering. Skull shifting and 
>> splitting like tectonic plates, inability to produce body heat, randomly 
>> firing muscles, foggy and lethargy. That's the losing part.
>> 
>> The wondrous part is the gift of experiencing God's stunning, spectacular 
>> creation. I also managed a wee day ride on the third day. The video is from 
>> that (so no bags).
>> 
>> Weather could not have been better. highs in the 50's, lows of 20˚F -- 
>> fantastic for 10,000 feet in mid-October!
>> 
>> Saw deer, elk prints, a peregrine falcon, and got in all seven of my 
>> Coffeeaneering outings (if one extended outing with seven coffee's counts?)
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/albums/72157659948033825
>> (video at the end of the album)
>> 
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[Mike Williams]

Legolas/Roadeo tubing,  Hunq clearances!!

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> On Oct 9, 2015, at 8:57 AM, Mark Reimer  wrote:
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> I've definitely felt some Hunq's that were lighter than my Atlantis. I've 
> also had my Atlantis up to 100 pounds with touring stuff on it and it was 
> just starting to feel lively, hah! I don't think it actually has a weight 
> limit for the frame. I can't imagine it ever being over taxed. 
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:52 AM, drew  wrote:
>> 
>> i asked a couple months ago. 
>> Currently, both atlantis and hunq are straight gauge ox platinum. 
>> differences are in the fork and chainstays...thicker on the hunq.  i would 
>> imagine the weight difference would be more or less unnoticeable on a built 
>> up bike.  
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Re: [RBW] FS: 56 Atlantis

[Mike Williams]

Someones getting a good one!

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> On Sep 7, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Pondero  wrote:
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> This is a wonderful bike, but my roads and riding style are adequately 
> covered with my Hilsen.  Plus I have a notion to pursue a new project and 
> need supplemental funding.  So this one is available...
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/albums/72157647086408414
> 
> I'm thinking $1950 shipped CONUS, complete bike nominally, minus bags, racks, 
> and pedals.  I'll include the Maxxis Holy Rollers and Compass Rat Trap Pass 
> tires if you wish.  We can negotiate partial build if needed.  I you want to 
> talk details, please contact me offlist.
> 
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
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Re: [RBW] Not all that glitters is gold...

[Mike Williams]

Ha!Manny you are the best my friend!   What was my quote?  ' the trails 
will always be there'??  

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 On Jul 7, 2015, at 9:34 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 And so the beautiful summer of San Francisco is upon us...
 Meaning foggy, cold and wet. PERect time to go on an overnight in the 
 headlands.
 
 Good buddies Tony and Bridgette make their way up from the Peninsula to do a 
 quick easy overnight with thoughts of epic shred session afterwords. With 
 pedicab rival Aaron joining in for the adventure.
 
 Burritos are a go. Gear is dialed. Everyone is fresh.
 
 We roll through the quite streets of Fisherman's Wharf  to be greeted by Karl 
 the Fog as we cross the bridge into our adventures. 
 
 First single track down... disaster strikes. 
 Tony with the strength of his umm legs. Bends his saddle rails and pops 
 his saddle bolt off. Luckily he finds it in the dark and takes the time to 
 screw the bolt on.
 
 He hops back on and the bolt's last threads give and the tiny but ever 
 important bolt pings into oblivion darkness never to be found again.
 Stuck now we sit around in the dark trying to figure out ways of making this 
 work. Good thing Tony brought some extra paracord.   
 
 A couple of knots later and the saddle is ridable. Kinda. With minor 
 adjusting every 2 miles. We crawl our way to camp. 
 Just to find it drenched. With the fog make it rain feel like rain light 
 conditions.
 
 With Aaron in his tent, Tony and Bridgette wrapped in a burrito tarp. There 
 was talks about a knife fight for Aaron's tent that never come into fruition. 
 
 We wake up wet but take the our time. Sleeping in until the sun came out.
 
 And for one rare morning in San Francisco it actually did.  We sat and 
 chilled waiting for our stuff to dry. 
 
 We figured with Tony's saddle and with Bridgette nursing a previous back 
 injury we would cancel the day long shred fest for another time. Aaron goes 
 on ahead while we cruise and take our time come back home.
 
 It was the great quotes of Mike Williams that really changed my perspective 
 on how adventures SHOULD go. And I'm never too sad about missing any 
 opportunity to go riding hard. 
 While having epic adventures is great. Just spending some time with good 
 friends and being able to leave with some stories to tell are just as good.
 
 Always remember good friends, The trails will always be there. For next 
 time.  
 
 
 Pictures proved that for this overnight Karl the Fog wins:
 https://flic.kr/s/aHskfBSejJ
 
 
 Manny  Thanks Obi-One-Mike for showing me the Way Acosta
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] What are these handlebars on Hunq (BLUG CONTENT!)

[Mike Williams]

Hey group,  that is my Hunq.   The bars are the Ahearne MAP bars in the 
slightly wider(61.5cm) version.  Theyre awesome,  but i wish they accepted BE 
shifters.   As for the saddle tilt,  well Ive tried levelish but it always 
feels like im sliding forward.   The down tube shifters were put on there in a 
pinch when I was initially setting it up, I have since put on thumbies.   Hope 
this clears things up!   -Mike  

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 On Jun 30, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Curious to know what are these handlebars featured on this Hunq...
 
 http://40.media.tumblr.com/3b7bf1968c8406b81532ac6fee2a6dd4/tumblr_npcbr5KRsX1qe3ngpo2_r1_1280.jpg
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Re: [RBW] How are albatross and albastache bars for long distance riding?

[Mike Williams]

Daniel, bars are personal,  everyone has there preferences and i cant speak for 
Albastaches,   But I can for Albatross and for me,  they are just about the 
perfect mixed surface touring bar,  good for 100 mile days without even 
thinking about it.Ive tried drops,  never could get comfy.   This is why I like 
Albas,  they let you sit high and really see around you a bit more.   As for 
hand positions theres a solid 3 or 4 for me,  and also I set the bars at saddle 
height or a little higher and this takes pressure off hands/ wrists and Im not 
really wanting to move my hands around all the time.   I say give them a shot! 
you might love them or decide theyre not really your thing.  Gd luck,   
-Mike

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 Day Dreaming about how I would build up a sam.  Thinking about why I want the 
 sam realized it would be for fun long rides.  If I'm running errands I'd use 
 my cheaper bikes.  Loaded touring I have a bike for that.  Are drop bars a 
 safer bet for long distance riding?   Don't have much experience with upright 
 bars.  Seems like the upright bars limit the options for hand position.  
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Re: [RBW] (f)Atlantis gets a new look

[Mike Williams]

Nice nice set up man!!

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 On Feb 17, 2015, at 2:36 PM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I got a deal on a pair of Albatross bars from my LBS so I had to give it a 
 try. I had Noodles on before, which I found to be one of the most comfortable 
 bars I've tried yet.
 
 After two rides, I've gotta say. This is a new level of luxury. I feel like 
 I'm riding a couch on two wheels. It's not so easy to keep a higher pace when 
 being so upright, but that's ok. 
 
 Here's a few photos from a surprisingly warm-ish February ride on the river 
 and through the forest. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Post Thanksgiving Cranksgiving Dirt Paradise Ride.

[Mike Williams]

Great write up and photos Hugh!   Looked like such a good time,   Thanks for 
sharing!

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 On Nov 29, 2014, at 7:21 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Three plus hours and twenty miles of pristine dirt single track around Carmel 
 Valley in San Diego ' s North County was enjoyed by we five members of (SCAR) 
 SoCal All Rounders. David Greenblatt, Mike Shiller, Tom Virgil, Curtis 
 Mckenzie and I socalpedalpusher.
 
 We all met at David's home and promptly dropped into Gonzalez Canyon 
 zigzaging through dense chaparral with abandon. The weather was sunny and 
 pleasant with a slight breeze. Apologies to the the Northern climes.
 
 Our dear Tom had run out of time and made an exit, for he had Christmas tree 
 trimming duty waiting for him,  it was great to see him but too short for me. 
 Tom and I met the next day for coffee outside which was great.
 
 As with gleeful joy on single track often a sacrifice is made to the trail 
 gods. Our Mike Shiller was gallant enough to shed some blood for the cause 
 when he and a tree had a disagreement, Mike' wounds were treated a red 
 bandanna was added to his outfit (made him that much more gnarled) and off we 
 went resuming our ride...by the way the tree was fine just in case you were 
 wondering.
 
 This has been David's playground for a while now so he put together a bow tie 
 dirt event for us...he tied together two Canyons and a Mesa with next to no 
 cars to contend with. Literally the GPS mapping is a bow tie as we crossed 
 under the 56 freeway multiple times.
 
 After Gonzalez we dropped into Penasquitos Canyon after climbing a short 
 steep access road. We cheerfully glided down smooth undulating single track 
 along the North side of Penasquitos Canyon  heading West where we crossed 
 paths with the few hikers on our adventure. Soon we made a short stop at the 
 Waterfalls for snacks, bike talk and future rides.
 
 Continuing we looped back around and headed East up Penasquitos. David saved 
 the best till last the Del Mar Mesa Preserve where the tunnels exist. These 
 are scrub oak grown over making a tunnel canopy with yet more singletrack 
 winding it's way down another small canyon a technical sheer blast! One had 
 to be vigilant so as not to have your head smashed backward from low hanging 
 branches. As I rolled through the tunnels hugging *(Ole Willy's) top tube I 
 wondered how Curtis at 6'7 was fairing? He came through for the most 
 unscathed a little bit of bark was seen in his vicinity.
 
 Concluding our ride at Greenblatt ' s Ale House David was a great host lots 
 of chips  dips, some Sculpin grapefruit ale and Speedway Stout was had, 
 adding at least on my part 10% by volume the  extra cherry on the proverbial 
 cake on the perfect day in the saddle. With the sun set...
 
 ...we parted ways I was left with the image of all the broad smiles while 
 playing in the dirt.
 
 Up next? Sweetwater Regional Park Camping.
 
 Mike' Flickr images, https://flic.kr/p/qeA3nc
 
 David's Flickr images, https://flic.kr/p/qbXzqG
 
 My Flickr images, https://flic.kr/p/pXaLGJ
 
 Tom's Flickr images, https://flic.kr/p/qe4Su2
 
 * The name I've attached to my 2003 Rivendell Atlantis. 
 
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Re: [RBW] Product placement coup by Riv in Consumer Reports review of Ford Transit Connect van

[Mike Williams]

Whoa!   Weird,  good spot

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 http://finance.yahoo.com/video/ford-transit-connect-2014-2015-154141113.html
 
 Could not quite believe I was seeing an Atlantis? with mustache in the back 
 of this van. Am I seeing things?
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Re: [RBW] Speaking of Stem Shifters...

[Mike Williams]

Chris,  that Atlantis is looking sooo great man!   Cant wait to see it fully 
built.

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 On Nov 25, 2014, at 6:19 PM, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Nudged by Bill's inspiration, I ordered stem shifter mounts from Riv for my 
 Atlantis.  Then, in a classic timing move by me, I remembered I had some stem 
 shifters way back in my parts pile...somewhere.  I found them and cleaned 
 them up a bit...
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/15854585506/in/photostream/
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/15878412351/in/photostream/
 
 ...and wondered, because they are bodacious, whether these things would shift 
 a modern 9spd cassette.  Any suggestions?
 
 The lever for the rear has a delightful ratchet, and the lever for the front 
 is pure friction.
 
 Chris Johnson
 Sanger, Texas
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