[RBW] Re: Ortlieb Rollers!!!!
Patrick Which rollers do you have, front or back? I'm trying the decide between the two. On Friday, November 8, 2013 5:53:12 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: I traded a jaded pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses with fellow lister Joe Broach for a pristine pair of Ortlieb Rollers, 'cuz I don't need high end camping luggage, I need high end grocery luggage. I used them for the first time this afternoon, to carry 35 lb of groceries, and mail to Mom. I have a pair of Banjo Bros Market Panniers, which are very large and certainly not bad for the $50/ea price. But MAN! -- those Rollers are NICE!!! So easy to attach to the Fly! So easy to remove! So carefully designed! So elegant in operation! I hauled them into Sprouts this afternoon and shoved them onto the conveyor belt along with my fruit and veg and meat and such. The girl bagger said, Unusual! and I agreed. 35 lb, and they are hardly more than 2/3 full if even that. I bet that I can get two/2/II/dos/deux/do/mbili full paper sacks in each, if I wanted to and if my Fly and my Ram (OT content) could carry such weight. Oh: and riding the Ram for the first time in weeks, I was once again struck by how easy multiple gears make climbing steep hills with heavy loads. Hoooda Thunk? Patrick Moore, tripping on Rollers, in ABQ, NM -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report, Part 1: Portland to Ozette, WA
Great photos and report Chris I felt like I was right there with you. I love it when you PNW guys post, keeps me reminded of how much I love that part of the country. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Seeking feedback: smart looking wool cycle shorts
Paul- Here are a couple of links to the photos of wool cycling shorts from the '70s. They are from slides I'm slowly scanning so the quality is somewhat iffy in some cases. The first one shows a pair inside out on the back of my bike, you can clearly see the real chamois which would be softened up overnight with chamois fat. http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/9604243962/in/set-72157630138429316 The next ones show a better shot of fit, they did have some nylon for stretch. http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/7376786100/in/set-72157630138429316 http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/9607325113/in/set-72157630138429316 The last link is to the whole Flickr set where you can see everyone wearing wool even through the desert at 105 degrees. http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/sets/72157630138429316/with/9607325113/ The merino wool mix of the shorts were extremely cool in the heat much more than the Lycra currently available. Also my tights were not to different from the Aussie wool ones offered by Riv except they had zipped ankles. You might want to take a look at the construction of some of the baggy mountain bike shorts currently available, many have ventilation built into the design by using a more loosely woven fabric. On Monday, September 23, 2013 10:18:20 PM UTC-5, Paul Y wrote: Many thanks to everyone for all your invaluable feedback, this has been a very encouraging response for me to keep going with this project. Regarding material: The main reason to use a wool blend vs. 100% wool has been that the wool blends are lighter weight to deal with the warm weather here. Since these will be made to order, the purchaser will have a choice in material, and 100% wool could be an option. Generally the blends seem lighter and less prickly than any 100% wool I've seen available here, and still dry fast and resist odor. I know merino could be the ideal 100% wool, but that would make this a much more expensive product. Regarding the sit bone area: I've been wondering what to do about the wear marks, and with this post it seems clear that finding a solution to reinforce that area will be necessary. Because one of the primary objectives are that the shorts look smart, I'm avoiding the more popular synthetic materials for the short, and also don't want to visibly add nylon. Wool seems to get polished by the saddle as shown in the pictures. I am thinking with the next prototype, to try adding elbow patches to the sit bone area. @Lee : What a great DIY photo set you put together; thanks for sharing that. @Shoji : Yes, these have a gusseted crotch, unless we have different understandings of what a guesseted crotch is - there is enough range of movement for the toughest hike-a-bikes I've found here, enough to do yoga even! @Deacon : I'd never come across worsted wool before - thanks I will look into it. @bwphoto : I've never seen these old cycling shorts before. Would you have a photo to share? These shorts seem to work just fine without a chamois, so I am quite certain to keep them chamois-less, as that is pretty much a feature with these! But I am curious about these shorts you used to wear. @Patrick Shoji : Great tip about plumbers crack, I will be sure to get a high back into the next prototype. @Patrick : Thanks for giving me so much information. I'll look at adding an additional rear pocket. You'll be glad to know that the front pockets are deep. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking feedback: smart looking wool cycle shorts
I agree with Patrick I'd love to see some good fitting shorts that are well vented, loose fitting and can if need be accommodate some sort of liner that helps keep things together if you know what I mean. I don't mind riding in just street shorts and cotton briefs for short errands around 10 miles but anything longer especially in summer creates to many hot spots in all the wrong places. I've tried all sorts of technical briefs etc. and even tho they are more breathable they don't hold things together so I'm constant adjusting my position. The things I like about the mountain bike style of street sort is are number and style of pockets that are closed by zippers and allow me to keep things like my phone and billfold on my body. I can't be trusted, at least in the city, to remember to take these things with me when I lock up my bike, while on the open road touring I don't need pockets as much. Also I like the pant style Patrick posted awhile back, tappered legs with ankle zips or some sort of closure that allows for them to come off without removing shoes would be nice as well. On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:48:08 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Those are cycling shorts in the sense of padded in crotch shorts. Paul intends -- am I right? -- to make shorts in the pattern of street shorts but adapted for riding -- no gd padding, no stretch, no tight. FWIW, I have several pairs of wool cycling shorts in the first sense of the term and I find them much more comfortable than tight, clingy, clammy lycra, but I hardly ever wear them -- street shorts -- of the right design! -- are far more convenient and the padding or abrasion-resisting shammy isn't needed on rides below 30 miles. Hell, on rides under 50 miles, as far as I can tell. Paul: please consider expanding, eventually, into rayon cycling jerseys. I can find nothing for hot weather that doesn't stink like a pig after 20 miles. I have a dozen Hawaiian shirts that are great for hot weather riding -- far better than seersucker, IMO -- whose only defect is that they flap like Old Glory in the gale and tempest of my passing. Perhaps a stretch, pullover rayon jersey, or even a button up cut long but slimmer; rear or front pockets in any case. (I haven't yet coughed up the $70 or so for that New Zealand jersey -- am waiting for winter markdowns.) On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.t...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Awesome pics, Bill-- Keep scanning On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:50:24 PM UTC-4, bwphoto wrote: Paul- Here are a couple of links to the photos of wool cycling shorts from the '70s. They are from slides I'm slowly scanning so the quality is somewhat iffy in some cases. The first one shows a pair inside out on the back of my bike, you can clearly see the real chamois which would be softened up overnight with chamois fat. http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/9604243962/in/set-72157630138429316 The next ones show a better shot of fit, they did have some nylon for stretch. http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/7376786100/in/set-72157630138429316 http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/9607325113/in/set-72157630138429316 The last link is to the whole Flickr set where you can see everyone wearing wool even through the desert at 105 degrees. http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/sets/72157630138429316/with/9607325113/ The merino wool mix of the shorts were extremely cool in the heat much more than the Lycra currently available. Also my tights were not to different from the Aussie wool ones offered by Riv except they had zipped ankles. You might want to take a look at the construction of some of the baggy mountain bike shorts currently available, many have ventilation built into the design by using a more loosely woven fabric. On Monday, September 23, 2013 10:18:20 PM UTC-5, Paul Y wrote: Many thanks to everyone for all your invaluable feedback, this has been a very encouraging response for me to keep going with this project. Regarding material: The main reason to use a wool blend vs. 100% wool has been that the wool blends are lighter weight to deal with the warm weather here. Since these will be made to order, the purchaser will have a choice in material, and 100% wool could be an option. Generally the blends seem lighter and less prickly than any 100% wool I've seen available here, and still dry fast and resist odor. I know merino could be the ideal 100% wool, but that would make this a much more expensive product. Regarding the sit bone area: I've been wondering what to do about the wear marks, and with this post it seems clear that finding a solution to reinforce that area will be necessary. Because one
[RBW] Re: Seeking feedback: smart looking wool cycle shorts
Great idea! Back in the '60s and up until the late ''70s and '80s merino wool cycling shorts were the [primary choice of many of us. In the early '70s my ex along with the wives of some of our cycling pals created patterns for cycling shorts made of merino wool/nylon blend for stretch, the crotch was double layer with a real chamois. I wore those sorts throughout the '70s, '80s until they finally gave out in the early '90s. Unlike the diaper lined Lycra ones now they extremely comfortable regardless of the environment I rode through from Pacific NW rain to eastern Oregon desert heat. It was a sad day when the last pair finally gave out. The real chamois was there not for padding but to eliminate chafing, together with a generous coat of chamois cream. While I currently wear loose shorts around own ( I like pockets because I can't trust myself to remember to grab my billfold and phone when I head into a store) and I always wear a liner short under the baggy ones because I like to have a home for my boys and I find cotton undies absorbs to much sweat. Anyway, I'd buy your shorts and you might want to think about resurrecting the old wool and real chamois version, I'm sure I'm not the only one who wold like to something other than the current choices. On Monday, September 23, 2013 10:43:38 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I very much like the idea, Paul, and second the desire for wool breeches (knickers) with full range of motion built in. A few thoughts: -- would worsted wool show less wear? -- wool blend? Why not go 100% wool? With abandon, Patrick On Monday, September 23, 2013 5:52:57 AM UTC-6, Paul Y wrote: Hi all, I'm looking for some feedback on my pet project - cycling shorts inspired by Grant's writings and also the posts of several on this group. I had my prototype of these shorts made at the tailor's about 3 months ago and have put about a thousand kilometers on them. I have to say I am very pleased, and hope to bring these shorts to market as a custom fitted, made-to-order product. Link to flickr photosethttp://www.flickr.com/photos/paulatwork/sets/72157635797576895/ Any comments would be greatly appreciated! Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A Librarian and her Betty Foy
Love the photos... Especially the joy on your face! I'm continually amazed at reporters who find it so hard to get fact and interviews right. In a previous life I dealt a lot with the press and seldom was I ever quoted correctly. I know all to well what life is like with an invisible disease, luckily my every 6 week Remicaid infusion has been giving me the ability to return to riding. What are you taking? There have been times I have thought about putting myself up for adoption in Canada just to get the health care ! Ride strong I've found that unless a flair totally immobilizes me getting on my bike really helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Stupid Pump Question
Have you tried to remove the fitting on the pump that fits over the valve stem? Some pumps have rubber O-rings that surround the valve stem to seal it different ones for different valves. If there is one on this pump I'd see if it comes out and try to put a presto valve in, if it leaks air around pump fitting with out the O-ring then i'd either try shaving some out of the center of the ring to make it fit or hard to a hardware store to find something that fits. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Car free Crater Lake
In the late mid '70s I did a 1000 mile tour of Oregon with some friends from Eugene. We took dirt and gravel roads from Crescent Lake to Crater Lake in order to avoid a couple of the highways that were heavily traveled with logging trucks. Crater Lake was amazing, the real fun was the almost 80 mile downhill into Roseburg, Oregon the next day. I've been slowly scanning my slide archives, still trying to find the ones of Crater lake and the dirt roads. I did find some of the gravel grinding we did on the way to Crater Lake and elsewhere on the tour. Here's a link to prove it... http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/sets/72157630138429316/ On Monday, August 26, 2013 11:46:26 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: Thanks for correcting me, velomann. It's 60 miles taking the most direct route, and you shouldn't take the most direct route. I've ridden from Klamath Falls to Crater Lake, but I took a even less direct route; the first day I rode up to Lake of the Woods and camped there (nice place), and the second day I rode to Crater Lake NP and camped there. I can heartily recommend riding around the lake. Even with cars on the road, it's magnificent. On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:17 PM, velomann velo...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Crater Lake National Park is about a 40 mile ride from Klamath Falls. Actually just over 60 miles to the rim drive and it's a climb. If you decide to do this, I recommend taking the West Side Road up the west side (duh) of Klamath Lake. Beautiful forest/ ranch land, less traffic than Hwy 97, and you can visit Captain Jack's grave at the Fort Klamath museum. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Car free Crater Lake
Thanks for the comment it has been a real trip down memory lane, still trying to find them all. These were shot Ektachrome and processed by me, I used to buy the film in bulk, role my own then process it...couldn't do it with Kodachrome. I usually carried my Nikon F2 and or FTN along with a 21mm wide angle, a 135mm and 200mm. Cameras were a lot lighter back then, I could carry the whole kit in my handlebar bag with out a problem. ..these days I'd need a trailer! I used Polarizers on all of my lenses back then and the 21mm would vignette the shot, but I got great color. At least I had something to show for three years in SE Asia courtesy of Uncle Sam. On Tuesday, August 27, 2013 5:06:06 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote: bwphoto, great set of pics! Looks like some kids just having a good time. Wonderfully shot! -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:39 PM, bwphoto bwphoto...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: In the late mid '70s I did a 1000 mile tour of Oregon with some friends from Eugene. We took dirt and gravel roads from Crescent Lake to Crater Lake in order to avoid a couple of the highways that were heavily traveled with logging trucks. Crater Lake was amazing, the real fun was the almost 80 mile downhill into Roseburg, Oregon the next day. I've been slowly scanning my slide archives, still trying to find the ones of Crater lake and the dirt roads. I did find some of the gravel grinding we did on the way to Crater Lake and elsewhere on the tour. Here's a link to prove it... http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/sets/72157630138429316/ On Monday, August 26, 2013 11:46:26 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: Thanks for correcting me, velomann. It's 60 miles taking the most direct route, and you shouldn't take the most direct route. I've ridden from Klamath Falls to Crater Lake, but I took a even less direct route; the first day I rode up to Lake of the Woods and camped there (nice place), and the second day I rode to Crater Lake NP and camped there. I can heartily recommend riding around the lake. Even with cars on the road, it's magnificent. On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 9:17 PM, velomann velo...@gmail.com wrote: Crater Lake National Park is about a 40 mile ride from Klamath Falls. Actually just over 60 miles to the rim drive and it's a climb. If you decide to do this, I recommend taking the West Side Road up the west side (duh) of Klamath Lake. Beautiful forest/ ranch land, less traffic than Hwy 97, and you can visit Captain Jack's grave at the Fort Klamath museum. Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell riders use for bicycle saddles? 3 questions for RivRiders.
I prefer leather saddles and have ridden them since the '60s when I got an Ideale for my schwinn 3 speed which took me thru college. Later on returning from SE Asia I had a fuji leathe saddle on a Fuji 10 speed. I tried various unicanitor saddles on my Nishiki Pro when I was racing in the early to mid '70s but switched to Ideale for touring. I rode that saddle through to the '90s and into the early 2000s when I had to stop ridding. My beater bikes usually had whatever I had laying around. I currently have a B17 on my both my Sam and my Xtracycle, and a B5N on my Pugsley. I've had no problems with ridding leather even on muli thousand mile tours. I think wearing wool cycling shorts with real chamois (no diaper padding) must have toughened my butt up. I like hardness because it makes me feel more connected with my bike. While my first choice will always be a leather saddle I'm not that picky, I generally will ride whatever is available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pictures from the Panther Creek Falls Gran Carbo s480
Great shots and looks like a fun group, brought back memories of my years in Eugene ( the '70s) and all of the rides we all did great fun and great memories. Also get really homesick for Oregon every time I see shots like yours, it's a wonderful place... On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:13:22 AM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote: Hello! Last weekend, 10 folks left Portland for the Columbia River Gorge and Panther Creek Falls in the Gifford Pinchot National Forest. The distance was 60 miles from start to finish each way, roughly: Portland to Troutdale via Marine Drive, which runs along the Columbia River past both the Portland and Troutdale airports. Troutdale to Cascade Locks via the Historic Columbia River Highway, which leads past Crown Point, and multiple waterfalls, the most famous of which is Multnomah Falls. We were able to travel on the not-yet-opened-but-substantially-complete section of the Historic Columbia River Highway Trail east of Cascade Locks Cascade Locks to Stephenson via the Bridge of The Gods and WA SR-14, stopping for a brew or two at the Walking Man Brewery in Stephenson. Stephenson to Panther Creek Falls Campground via WA SR-14, Wind River Rd, and Old State Rd (USFS 65). The campground is relatively spacious, with vault toilets and at least two well pumps. Panther Creek flows right by, and there were small bathing pools laid out in river rock. The next morning we enjoyed a waffle and bacon breakfast prepared by myself with the assistance of my Sous Chef, Maria. Fortified, we climbed up and gained a fair amount of elevation the next 3 miles on USFS 65 to see the actual Panther Creek Falls, which are spectacular. The ride back was rather uneventful, and went rather easily, with a net elevation loss. Wait, that's not totally true--there were delicious burgers in Cascade Locks at the Char Burger, along with Malt Shakes. The ride ended at Velo Cult in Portland, where beers and chess were enjoyed well into the evening. Technical notes: There is no way I'm carrying waffle kit on anything farther than a short range (50km) s24o without bribes again. Pictures proved it happened: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157635045689329/ Cheers cc -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting sights and creating abstract art with Sam
Eric The kayak trailer was parked in the rack located just before the 54th st. intersection and light at Hiawatha, across from the dog park. with the amount of Pedestrians and those 4 wheel pedal contraptions they rent at the falls, in the Minnehaha park/trail area I can't imagine pulling that thing. Not exactly the most maneuverable set up. On the other hand if I lived within blocks of one of the lakes I'd use to take my boat for a paddle beats putting it on the car roof and carrying it to the water. On Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:15:59 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote: Can't see that being safe down the Ft. Snelling trail. Have seen similar (but smaller) setups being towed to some of the in town lakes. Oh, and the pocket shots are pretty cool. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Impressive kayak trailer... that might require a safety rider tailing you! The pocket abstracts are cool, now if you were going to display them how would you give photo-credit/sign them...?!? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ma Petite Betty
What a beauty! Between the gorgeous lug work and the bike's elegant design it kinda makes you feel like you are part of a work of art when riding and evey bit worthy of a place of honor on a wall. On Thursday, August 8, 2013 11:35:02 PM UTC-5, Cecily Walker wrote: Proof that she's here in my possession. I still can't believe I own one of these bikes after wanting one for so long. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Interesting sights and creating abstract art with Sam
Yesterday I did my usual 30 mile loop which included a stop at Lake Nokomis beach for a snack and a few photos. When I headed out I started hearing funny beep, which at first I thought was my Garmin, so I fiddled with it and it's connection and the beep seemed to stop but I was still trying to figure out what it was. A few minutes later it returned beeping several times as I hit some bumps. So I started thinking it was related to something on the bike or on me that was getting jarred, then it stopped only to resume again. Since the Sam was handling just fine and the only electronic thing I could think of was my Garmin I thought I'd just chalk it up to mystery and switched my attention back to the road ignoring the beeps altogether. A few blocks down the road I noticed a photo-op so I pulled over and pulled out my phone which proceeded to beep at me in no uncertain terms while presenting me with a vast collection of abstract shots and video of the inside of my left pant pocket. It looked like I forgot to completely close the app and it just went on it's merry way making it's own abstract photos. The kayak trailer was parked in a rack along the bike path leading to Ft. Snelling. Seems like an awkward load given the foot traffic and tight turns on this particular bike path. Here are the pictures to prove it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/sets/72157635012591397 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Any last suggestions before I have to throw my Bleriot in a dumpster?
Depending on the size of the bike, if you're going to throw it away you can throw it my way ;)). Seriously tho I've had similar experience, I spent the better part of last year in Postural restoration PT as the result of carrying around my camera bag. What I learned was how simple things are really connected and one thing out of whack can throw other things off, they trained me to pay attention to my core, hips, glutes, and leg muscles so I could double check opposing muscles etc. and move everything back into balance. For example, I've had lower back pain both during and after riding and I've learned that all I have to do is suck in my gut, do essentially a pelvic tilt and the back pain goes away. Also, some times the back pain is more centered on the very lower part of the back close to the upper glutes, by making changes in my foot position and pedal stroke I can take the stress off the back muscles. Finally, if my pedaling is the slightest off balance, as in not applying equal force to the pedals I can aggravate the opposite side of my back...equalizing my pedal stroke takes the tension away and removes the muscle tension. Postural restoration PT is something that I've had the most success with, you might want to see if you can find a practice where you live. Also, I've had different bikes cause different body parts to cause problems, what I experience with upright bars is different than drops. Hope this helps. On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 5:49:00 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: I am about to give up. Tearing my hair out. Aaargghhh Would appreciate any ideas you all might have. Got pushed over by a car last fall. Low speed accident. Ever since, low back hurts when I ride this bike. My other bikes are fine. My body is fine. MD says back hurting ain't from the accident. So it is something with the Bleriot. Frame is in alignment. Checked by 2 shops. Rest of bike checked out ok, too. The rear rim did get bent, but I got a new symmetrical (not off center) Synergy rim replacement that is true. Been replacing structural support components lately in case something got bent that isn't visible to the eye. Like bars, stem, saddle. Back still hurts. Tonight I will swap out the seat post. The last thing I can imagine would be new cranks/drivetrain. But I really don't wanna spend the dough unless it is possible the crank arms were bent in the accident. The bike just fell over as I bailed onto the hood of the car. And bike cranks look strong, so I doubt they are bent. At least to the eye they look good. Pedals measure equidistant from top and sides to crank arms, so they aren't bent. Any ideas? I am getting so frustrated and don't want to have to give up riding this beautiful bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: duct tape to enamel paint
I haven't tried duck tape but I have used gaffer's tape, it is used in the photo industry to attach things like lights, grip gear, wires etc. to walls, floors, etc. anything that could have the finish marred by regular tape. When removed it leaves no residue and does not effect the painted surface. I've used it on my bikes in a similar manner as you. You can get it at any pro photo supply shop or on-line at places like BH Photohttp://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=gaffer+tapeN=0InitialSearch=yessts=ta . On Monday, August 5, 2013 11:32:39 AM UTC-5, SMP wrote: Would you ever put duct tape onto your frame? How would it impact the enamel paint job? I am trying to think of a a non-zip-tie way to route dynamo light wires, and I found the perfect hue of duct tape that matches my paint job. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Perspective
Before you know it they'll be moving up to mountain bikes, in the mean time you might need to get the adult version of the Hotrock... a Pugsly or even a Moonlander then you'll have your own crew and be the awsomess mom around. Save the Foy for the times you want to be dignified. On Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:07:38 AM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote: I promised my little boys a bike ride in the cooler hours of a hot Nevada day. My 7 yr old is SO proud of his new Specialized Hotrock in 24 in. wheels. It's candy apple red and has been outfitted with a bell and kickstand. Come fall, I will put on a rack. My 4 yr old (rides two wheels) is equally delighted with his Specialized Hotrock in 16 in. (he has bell and kickstand too, which he brags about to strangers).The older exclaimed, I have the best bike EVER! as he shot out of the driveway. The younger, hot on his heels, yelled, And my Hotrock is the best bike ever TOOO! They turned back and said, Mom, it's so sad that you don't have a Hotrock, too. I said, Yes, boys, Mommy just has to suffer with this Rivendell. You enjoy your Hotrocks. Poor Mommy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bike Garb
That was a great read...my thoughts exactly every time I ride by an old guy stuffed into lycra and pedaling with his knees out as if he were riding his child hood trike! On Sunday, July 28, 2013 9:10:36 AM UTC-5, Mike wrote: Would you wear a NASCAR flame retardant jumpsuit and your crash helmet every time you went for a drive? http://www.pavedmag.com/featured/letter-the-trouble-with-tap-shoes/ Love it. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] My wife's new Betty Foy
What a beauty! I've been wanting to do the same for my wife after she gets her knee replacement, I'd love to get her off of the Townie she is riding now. On Friday, July 12, 2013 10:18:19 AM UTC-5, Addison wrote: The bike packing job was almost too good. It took me longer to unpack it than to install the front brake/fender, rack and basket, saddle/seatpost. They are pretty amazing at packing. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: She looks like a child at Christmas. Aren't Rivendell bike packing jobs works of art in their own right? On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Addison Wilhite addison...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Thought I'd pass along a few pics. Today was her first commute on the bike. Still dialing a few things in but she's loving it. http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2013/07/a-new-bike-in-family-betty-foy.html Regards, -- Addison http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Addison http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Leather gloves (fingerless mitts) ?
Golf gloves, driving gloves? Those are the only ones I can think of. Part of the problem with finger and hand tingling is the angle of you wrist, that's why the Ergon grips work so well, they prevent the wrist from bending inward. I used to have that problem with drops until I moved the brake handles closer so I could relax that joint. Riding on the hooks, at least for me, puts my wrists at risk to say nothing of the rest of my body so I avoid it. Besides wearing glove since my first experience in pavement hitting as a kid, I also use them for spinning since I sweat so much they only way I can keep my hands on the bars! Good luck.. On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:56:07 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I retired my Riv summer-weight leather gloves partly because there is no padding at all in the hooks, and mostly because there is just too much padding in general. Yes, 3XL, they restrict my circulation and cause pain. I will admit, I caught a tire groove and went over at 18mph one day and they landed me without injury (well, pride and a scrape on my saddle). After trying on several, I ended up with Giro LX, because the gel does pad the hooks. But after a ride, same effect, though a lot less severe. I get no pain bare-handed, but hey, I can klutz and want something for fall protection. (Holy cow, Deacon Patrick, put some shoes on). Does anybody make a fingerless leather riding glove with NO padding? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Rocket fuel
Over the weekend we ran out of propane for the grill and we had an extra empty canister that needed to go back ...a fitting job for super bike. I get our propane from the local hardware store which is a measly 3 miles away and I don't drive for short trips and seldom drive for much else, if the destination and route is bike friendly I ride whatever bike fits the task. Hardware store runs usually require the Xtracycle and more often than not require wide loaders. Instead of loading both sides of the X with empties I hitched up the trailer. Since I built the X the trailer has been sitting idle so I wanted to see how it worked with the X. Other than getting a few entertaining looks and a little kid telling his mom he wanted one pulling the trailer was pretty uneventful, I did notice the absence of the second tank on the return trip. I have to say having a cargo bike is really convenient and with 2 Big Apples it is my errand bike of choice. Here's a link to see the set up: http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/9247791331/in/set-72157634563525565/ I keep thinking of the possibility of a Riv long tail... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Thin gripsters vs mks touring
I wrote a review about the gripsters vs. the MKS grip kings etc. you might find it helpful. Here's the link: http://www.ridingsteel.com/finding-my-perfect-pedal/2013/06/ Of all the pedals I've tried the VP0001 has worked the best, since I've been using them I've had no slips and because the way they return to a horizontal position I've not missed the pedal once when starting from a stop. When combined with sticky rubber soles they feel like being clipped in or using toe clips and cleats. On Monday, July 8, 2013 11:36:09 AM UTC-5, Daniel D. wrote: Riding with tevas and the MKS touring pedals my feet have slipped off at times. Mostly on downhills when I tried to pedal at a high cadence sometimes due to terrain. Do the gripsters have better grip? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: LBS Love...
I've always done my own work mostly because I wanted to learn and I was cheap. However, I'm very lucky now to have Jim Thill's Hiawatha Cyclery within 6 miles it's also a great place to drop in and hang out for a while, Jim and Mark always have great tips. Before I discovered them and while I was rebuilding my old Nishiki Pro I couldn't get the bottom bracket fixed cup loose so I took it to our local coop and all the mechanics fawned over it. Every city or town should have the equivilant of a Hiawatha Cyclery! On Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:43:52 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: Wait you're suppose to work on your bikes? I thought they just fix themselves. On Friday, June 28, 2013 7:48:20 PM UTC-7, jpp wrote: To be Honest this is near the exact story of how I discovered riv. But I was the shop employee and a guy brought in a Romulus to get some work done, I was really stunned how he had kept this bike from the 70's or early 80's in such great shape. When he picked it up a couple days later I said how nice it was and asked how old it was and he said a little over a year or something like that. I went home and looked up Riv that night. On Friday, June 28, 2013 5:02:15 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Broke a spoke (no idea how, but a loud sproing-crack troubadoured it's presence on a fast descent (I may have hit something, but have no idea). Rode the ten miles down to the LBS after cutting off the spoke at the nipple. It was fascinating. This was the first time I'd had the Hunqapillar in my LBS since receiving it last April, a little over a year ago. Every single person, customers and employees, on the walk back to the work area commented on how great and classic the bike is. One employee, after working on it, lamented as I paid that They don't make them like that any more. They do, actually. You just have to go to Rivendell to get it. This is just over a year old. Stunned silence. Still not sure if that's where I should go in the future, but at least this was the fairly simple job of spoke and brake replacement. How do you all figure out where to take your Riv. for servicing? I've already ruled out several shops that are closer or equidistant. There is one I'm pretty sure would do a great job for another mile or so. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Well that was Stupid. (SuperMoon S240 Recap.)
Manny, You may not have gotten the moon shots or others you wanted, but you did capture a very comprehensive story by paying attention to what was right in front of your. This series of shots tells me a story of anticipation, struggle and disappointment, your ability to see the story and capture it is important because you are moving from snap shots that just capture a moment to being able see both the individual shots while being in the flow of the moment. While I understand your disappointment you have not only produced some to be proud of you've also taken a big step forward as a photographer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Get on your bike or the rise of the unracer
I ran across this from the London Cyclist a great example of promoting the unracer or just riding. Admittedly it does take place during a race but the end tells it all. Here's the link: http://ibikelondon.blogspot.com/2013/06/get-on-your-bike.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Sam gets a makeover and an odd riding experience
Gave Sam the road bike a makeover last week, bars re taped with fresh red Neubaums tape with a few coats of clear and amber shellac. Also added red anodized VP0001 pedals. So I took him on across town to pick up my wife's car...got a few nice bikes along the way. Stopped at Minnehaha Falls along the way for a beauty shot! Pictures here: http://www.ridingsteel.com/sam-gets-a-make-over/2013/06/ Along the way I passed two riders one on a curved downhill and the other making a 90 degree curb cut crossing each holding a phone between their shoulder and their ear both were adults and neither looked or rode like an experienced rider. The one making the crossing was at a potentially dangerous intersection, she just kept talking away as she crossed. Looks like we now have entered the distracted cyclist stage...granted they were no danger to me but I'd hate to see what either would have looked like if they went down. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: I rode my A. Homer Hilsen on a 600K brevet (a link to a blogpost)
Great writing, you had me seeing feeling the entire ride also great photos. Thanks for sharing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Devil's Head Ramble
Patrick and Mike great photos and stories, the panos from the look out are very nice, next time out to Colorado I want to head that way. Having to bail on a is something I smacked head first into last year my first summer back on bike, I naively undertook my longest ride the day the heat index was extremely high, based on memories of man long rides in eastern Oregon and other places, so going 25 miles seemed easy. The thing I forgot, even though I'd trained all winter, was I was 15 years older with out the lifetime base I had maintained previously. Anyway, I checked in with my wife a couple of times on the return, to let her know I may be running late for an appointment we had that evening. the last check in I sounded kind of befuddled to her, so much so that she insisted she pick me up on her way home from work. That was the first time that ever happened to me. When she did pick me up she recognized that I was in the early stages of heat exhaustion, I was shocked to say the least after all 15 years ago I could regularly ride 100 miles in heat. That was my first lesson in the difference between my perceived age and ability and what I was actually able to do. It is still something I have a hard time realizing. Anyway thanks for the vicarious adventure, Mike your Oregon photos mad me homesick, but I love them. On Saturday, June 8, 2013 9:13:20 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Gadzooks! It's hard to imagine a 140 (let alone 180) mile day. Impressive. In hindsight, had I turned left on 67 for Deckers, I would have had secluded paved road most of the way back. No cell signal till I'm almost home, but I likely would have gotten water and returned under my own power. I wasn't cooked, but arguably my brain was. Sardonic grin. On Saturday, June 8, 2013 7:24:47 PM UTC-6, Mike wrote: On Saturday, June 8, 2013 5:33:36 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: First, I am a blessed man, to have a wife who will come howl my carcass out of whatever pickle I manage to get myself into. I remember a few years ago setting out on a 300k ride with a friend on a super hot summer day. On the way back, with say 75k to go I called my wife to check in with her and tell her I was completely cooked. I couldn't believe it, without any hesitation she said Do you want me to come get you? I was so happy. It was so hot. I was totally cooked. My friend continued on. Beth came and got me and saved me an unpleasant climb, the monotony of the bike path into Portland and then having to ride across the city. Pictures if you're interested: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157621778650380/ As for your ride Patrick, amazing landscape. While I have easy access to wooded riding, it's nothing like that. Looking forward to more images as summer progresses. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Just Repair
Love the folding repair stand that uses the seat tube. Also the brazing furnaces are pretty interesting contraptions. All pretty amazing... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Great Western Bicycle Rally - 2013
Great photos! I've been drooling over the the x100 and similar cameras since they first came out. Their compactness reminds me the light and unencumbered feel of my old film cameras, while I love my DSLRs and lenses sometimes I yearn for simplicity. Your BWs are gorgeous, great tonality, they almost look like selenium toned prints, are those straight out of the camera or converted in post? Also, I loved your shots of the urban/suburban landscapes...and the story they tell. On Monday, May 27, 2013 10:42:18 PM UTC-5, JimD wrote: As is our custom, pal Brian and I spent this weekend at the Great Western Bicycle Rally in Paso Robles, CA. The rally is a great family affair and the variety of riding in Paso Robles is excellent. Pictures may prove that it happened: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/ JimD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Loaded Bombadil
I've always felt that if I can haul it it is worth making the trip more enjoyable...but you really take the prize. Those Arkels look mighty nice, my old Kirkland Tour packs have finally become unusable for anything other than errands. Here's a shot of my load about 3/4 of the way through a 2200 mile trip through the Canadian Rockies and Oregon: http://www.flickr.com/photos/billweaverphoto/8668223907/ Have a great trip!! On Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:03:17 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: We are headed for a week on the Cowboy Trail. Here is the Bomba after she was loaded up and test ridden. Managed some high speed down hills, dirt, curbs, coffee and assorted ramblings.She's ready for the ride. Here are some photos in front of the House. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893702606/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893054333/ The coffee shop -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893701496/ So I tried to pack lighter this time around. Though I ended up with lots more space / room the weight only dropped about 5 lbs. So in the photos is 70lbs of gear including bag and pannier weight. That's ok I traveled a lot of miles at 80ish pounds so why fight it. On a side note I took the AHH to the Horsey Hundred this last weekend. Carried about 15 to 20 lbs of camera gear and stuff both days and had a great time. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8892736746/ Note the large saddlesack makes a great camera case with the addition of some foam padding... http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8603144807/in/set-72157632471917923 Have a great week next week while I'm riding my bike... oops another side note. of the 9 people going with me from St Louis for this ride, there are four Rivs, all from the St Louis area. Not to mention but a beautiful Bruce Gordon, 2 LHT, a Giant OCR Tour (my old one), and the Holdsworth resurrected again as a loaner bike. One more day of work and I'm outa here.. !!! Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] 5-10 shoes and sticky soles
I've been testing 5-10 shoes in the process of making a better connection between my feet and the pedals. After testing three I settled on the new Freerider VXi, I just posted a review of the shoes I tested and the performance of the Stealth soles., Here's the link: http://www.ridingsteel.com/getting-sticky-with-shoes/2013/05/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 5-10 shoes and sticky soles
in this regard - I usually wear size 9 or 9 1/2 in D width), and 3) increasing problems with cramping and foot numbness with any type of cycling shoe. However, even though the platform pedals took care of most of these issues, the running shoes do not, necessarily. When I'm standing up on a hill climb I feel like my foot is being wrapped around the pedal axle. I need something with a stiffer sole, like the cycling shoes but without their other drawbacks. So, my question is/was just how stiff some of these 5-10's are in that regard. The Freerider was one that I was considering the most. But they have two models; the standard Freerider and that VXi you bought. The former is about $20 cheaper, but does not have the same smooth contact area on the sole bottom as does the VXi. Would it still work as well? Also, how stiff are these in relative terms? Are they similar to a cycling shoe? I wouldn't want to go through the trouble to get a pair and wind up back where I am now with the running shoes. Finally, where to buy? Since they'd have to mail ordered, Zappo's seems to have the best selection and return policy of the on-line retailers. Would you agree? Where did you buy yours? Again, thanks for posting and your attention to my questions. George On Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:29:55 PM UTC-5, bwphoto wrote: I've been testing 5-10 shoes in the process of making a better connection between my feet and the pedals. After testing three I settled on the new Freerider VXi, I just posted a review of the shoes I tested and the performance of the Stealth soles., Here's the link: http://www.ridingsteel.com/getting-sticky-with-shoes/2013/05/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Psychedelic Quickbeam
The mural's cool but I thought but I thought I was going to see a bike with a cool hippy paint job. ;) On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:56:35 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: Totally groovy photo from today's ride: http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8857220387/ --Eric campyo...@me.com javascript: www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Wisconsin Shops
Yellow Jersey in Madison...one of my favorite during the '70s. It Is on State st, it is worth the visit although I haven't been there since th '80s. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Go red and while you're at it get some cool red foot ware along with red bottle cages and blue bottles...why stop with the saddle? Then of course lots of pictures. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Clackamas River Ramble
You Oregonians are killin'n me with your photos! I spent the '70's riding all over Oregon, your photos make me homesick, that last shot of Hood looked vaguely familiar. I do get out there occasionally to see my kids so I can get satiated temporally, the NW has always felt like home. Thanks for sharing! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Raingear
There was a pretty extensive discussion on rain gear back in September here's the link: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/rbw-owners-bunch/rain$20jackets$20rain$20gear/rbw-owners-bunch/IBOM1NYLOzY I used to work in the outdoor industry and have to say that after testing everything from Marmot to Patagonia and mountain Hardware I really never found anything that would keep me dry in sustained rain. Most of the membrane type fabrics work on the principle of pressure differential between the outside and the inside, so if it is hot and humid and raining and you are naturally hot inside the fabric will only breath if the outside pressure is less than the inside. This kind of rules out warm weather use and explains the clamminess felt inside a jacket while riding or running or even walking. So if you are like me and you sweat prolifically at just about any temp then membrane s don't work well over time. The other issue is most of them have DWR (durable water repellant) coating applied during manufacture which helps the water bead, but that coating doesn't last and will wear off depending on use and storage. It can be reapplied with Nikwax but I have not seen much success with its' durability. Laminated membrane fabrics really excel as wind barriers that's why they are the material of choice for climbers and others. Laminated membrane based fabrics work fairly well in light rain in cool temps, like winter in Oregon and Washington, but as soon as the air inside of the jacket starts warming and the difference between the inside and outside starts to increase outside the jacket the membrane can't breath because there is to much pressure outside to allow the moisture on the inside to pass through. I've found for me (the sweat king) the best solution is either fleece or wool mid layer combined with a thin base layer under a well vented semi breathable jacket, as long as I have air flow that can help dissipate the moisture wicked by the other layers I can stay relatively dry and warm as long as those fabrics wick well. Finally, the other thing to remember is that laminated membranes do delaminate making them pretty much useless. Most companies will replace delaminated garments as long as they haven't been abused. It is also possible for delamination to occur when a garment is stuffed in bike bag or left in a hot car. Based on the info in the September discussion it looks like the rain jackets made by JG Clothing http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Waterproof-Rain-Jackets.htmlmight be a good option. On Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:14:18 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I have a single layer ventile jacket. It's great for rain/wet snow 2 hours or less, but soaks through after that (like yesterdays 6 hour ride). I'm looking for ideas that meet these criteria: -- Highly breathable. No less breathable than ventile. -- At least as hearty against brush, briers, and branches as ventile. -- Hood option, ideally removable/stoable. -- Shell only for year-round use. Im considering Hilltrek's Greenspot Double Ventile, but it is pricy. http://www.hillgear.com/acatalog/copy_of_Cycling_Double_Ventile_Jacket.html Other ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the Riv-ish bicycle marketplace
Jim- Your shop is an example of what we need more of if we are ever going to get more ordinary people on bikes. Specifically, you and a few others in the Twin Cities have been making great strides towards eliminating the intimidation factor that keeps the average person from venturing into a bike shop. While many of our shops are not what you'd call racing they definitely lean towards the latest and greatest race oriented technology and if they do offer an alternative it is often hidden away in a token corner dedicated to city bikes. Even the merchandising of Surly products in some of the brand oriented shops seems to emphasize a kind of club membership, which inevitably turns away the new cyclist because they can't make the metal shift required to identify their particular needs vs those of the demographic the brand shops (you know which ones I'm talking about). When a person walks into your shop there is an immediate sense of welcome, and human scale vs. a strong sense of glitz and pretentiousness present in the more main stream shops. Most people buy what is presented to them because many don't know what they really want and don't know how to find it, they don't know what they don't know. That is why the bike industry needs companies like Rivendell and small shops like yours so ordinary people can comfortably discover what might work for them without wading through lycra and carbon. The important step that needs to be taken is for shops like yours and Chris' to be visible to the new commuter or wanna be tourist, or transportation cyclist, so they can easily (emphasis on easy) find what best fits their needs. People need to see as they are with the onset of S24 rides and the just ride philosophy that they don't have to be a member of the lycra ad emblazoned club to enjoy riding. Sorry for the tome...I can't seem to write short posts. On Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:39:38 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Chris W: that's a good point. I sorta live in a bubble. Not only do I work in a shop where we deal with approximately zero actual racers, very few of my customers own or ride mass market road bikes. Of course, in the twin cities, one can't miss the broad presence of Surly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Get a Betty Foy, old man
I'd have to agree that at least in my case it seems to be a flexibility issue. I have RA and had to quit riding for about ten years until things got under control. When I first tried to ride again last year it took the better part of the summer before I could mount my Sam. I've been working regularly on hip and leg flexibility and it is getting easier to swing my leg over the saddle. I am however, starting to consider the possibility that the damage to my joints and muscles from RA may not return to the level of flexibility I used to be able achieve. So I'm looking seriously at mixte frames especially for my Xtracycle. Even tho I'm 66 I don't feel it either physically or mentally so it takes constant and conscious attitudinal adjustment focus on where I am now and see my current limitations as changeable with extra work. Having to switch to a mixte frame won't stop me from riding. On Tuesday, April 2, 2013 12:43:08 PM UTC-5, Norman Bone wrote: Study says old men should ride B. Foys. http://www.thelocal.se/47064/20130331/#.UVsYP0rDmRJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems
Liesl...sorry to hear about the neck issues, I have some old ('90s vintage)
levers I pulled off my old Scott that might work for you. They were for cantis
so they should work. I live in St. Paul so you are more than welcome to them if
you'd like to give them a try. Contact me off list if you want them, I'd rather
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[RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems
Liesl...sorry to hear about the neck issues, I have some old ('90s vintage)
levers I pulled off my old Scott that might work for you. They were for cantis
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[RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems
Liesl...sorry to hear about the neck issues, I have some old ('90s vintage)
levers I pulled off my old Scott that might work for you. They were for cantis
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[RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems
Liesl...sorry to hear about the neck issues, I have some old ('90s vintage)
levers I pulled off my old Scott that might work for you. They were for cantis
so they should work. I live in St. Paul so you are more than welcome to them if
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[RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems
Liesl...sorry to hear about the neck issues, I have some old ('90s vintage)
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[RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems
Liesl...sorry to hear about the neck issues, I have some old ('90s vintage)
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[RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems
Liesl...sorry to hear about the neck issues, I have some old ('90s vintage)
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[RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems
Liesl...sorry to hear about the neck issues, I have some old ('90s vintage)
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[RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems
Liesl...sorry to hear about the neck issues, I have some old ('90s vintage)
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[RBW] Re: Swapping Bars Threaded Stems
Forgot to add I also have a stem if you need one...it's a shallow angle so it may not give you the rise you're looking for. Sorry about the multiple replies, the goofy hotel wi-fi I'm on keeps cutting in and out resending the same post. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Red Glorious 50cm
Gorgeous bike!!! I'd almost want to hang it on a wall if it were just a little bit smaller I'd get it for my wife... Thanks for sharing! On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:57:16 PM UTC-5, Ed S wrote: Hello everyone, I'm new in the group although I've been reading the posts every now and then. I feel this is one of the classier internet groups which offers helpful information and entertaining at times :) Pardon me for having a for sale in my first post. I was thinking of selling my wife's red Glorious at ebay but when I mentioned it to Keven (of RBW) he suggested that maybe I should offer it to this group first. I bought this bike for my wife on one of my visits to Riv HQ (Mark built it) years ago. However, she's always busy working so she never really had time to ride the bike except a few times. She was diagnosed last year with a medical condition which does not allow her to ride any bicycle. This bike has a mileage of about 8 blocks (ridden about 5 times on residential streets). That's less than one mile total. It has been kept in a garage, indoors or covered with a plastic sheet when in a covered porch (Southern Cal. weather). Specs are: 50 CM size/ Red frame/ Made in Japan/ IRD Front Der/ Shimano LX Rear Der/ Crank Sugino XD2 170 46 36 24/ BB Shimano UN53/ Chain 7/8 SRAM PC58/ Cassette Shimano HG50 8 sp 11-32/ Ultegra bar ends 8 spd/ Albratross Aluminum handlebars 54/ Stem Technomic Dlx 10cm 25.4/ Grips genuine cork/ Brakes Dia-Compre Centerpulls/ Mountain bike brake levers/ Seatpost Nitto Crystal Fellow 27.2 250 (cut off approx. 2 inches)/ Saddle Brooks B.67 Brown/ Wheels Front 650B LX Synergy 32H/ Rear LX Synergy Asym 32H/ Tire 650Bx38 (35) Panaracer Col de la Vie/ Pletscher kickstand/ No parts have been replaced yet. Photos below: http://www.flickr.com/photos/94013835@N06/8595490537/in/photostream/ If anyone is interested, please email me offline. I'm asking $2,500.00. Thank you for taking the time to read this. Ed Serrano -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Red Glorious 50cm
Joe- she's 5' but the problem is she will be getting both knees replaced over this year, she can only just barely get her leg over a step thru townie, we have no idea what her final range of motion will be by the time she is all healed up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT - Family Biking
Savvas- What a great chronicle of amazing innovation and creativity. It's to bad it takes so long for great innovations to catch on. Someone needs to do a documentary on these guys and the revolution they started. Thanks for posting and keeping the ideas alive. On Saturday, March 2, 2013 7:07:36 PM UTC-6, Savvas wrote: Andy, Nice blog article and nice thread. If this family cycling business is a possibke direction for Riv then I don't think the thread is OT. Here's a link to a flikr set I have been accumulating of 'family cycling' far away and long ago (for some anyway): http://www.flickr.com/photos/48163544@N02/8362805783/in/set-72157632477907968 May be of some interest and perhaps inspiration... Looking back at these bikes they are rather 'Riv-ish' in their organic, make-do approach! And the people depicted were living car-free back in the '70s and '80s! Savvas On Saturday, March 2, 2013 2:49:27 AM UTC+10:30, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: This is somewhat OT but the pics are full of stuff from Riv... Aussie Wool, Bosco Bars, Betty Foy, Cork Grips, and more. I wrote a guest post on a friends blog about family biking and going car-free. Thought it might be of interest to some folks on here. Becoming A Biking Familyhttp://paranoidstayathomemom.blogspot.com/2013/02/guest-post-becoming-biking-family.html --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT - Family Biking
Thanks for posting this Smitty...I have enjoyed reading several family riding blogs each one taking me back to the early days of family riding as I am sure is the case with some of the other old folks here. We really didn't have much in the way of resources or products to carry our kids...just thishttp://www.mudguardsandinnertubes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/il_fullxfull.278031558.jpg. I remember returning from SE Asia and feeling like I was in a diferent world when returned to KU for grad school...there were bikes everywhere, when just four years earlier there were only a small handful of us. When Cannondale came out with the Buggerhttp://www.mudguardsandinnertubes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/cannondale_1980_catalog_145.jpgin the earlier '70s things started to change, we bought one right away and soon had a small group of young families who loved to ride like us joining us on weekend bugger rides. We were all hopeful that some day moving around by bike would not be sen as an oddity but rather a normal and sensible way of travel. Our kids had the same sense of excitement as we pulled them around behind us as I have read about other families with their long tails. All of you young families are doing more in your everyday kid and cargo carrying errands to demonstrate how to *Just Ride*, hopefully the momentum will continue to build, I'd really like to see the results in my life time. Keep it up and remember it really boils down to Grant's fundamental thesis that riding is all about moving ourselves under our own power and enjoying it in the process. Thanks for indulging me in my memories it is heart warming to see how far we have come. On Saturday, March 2, 2013 7:07:36 PM UTC-6, Savvas wrote: Andy, Nice blog article and nice thread. If this family cycling business is a possibke direction for Riv then I don't think the thread is OT. Here's a link to a flikr set I have been accumulating of 'family cycling' far away and long ago (for some anyway): http://www.flickr.com/photos/48163544@N02/8362805783/in/set-72157632477907968 May be of some interest and perhaps inspiration... Looking back at these bikes they are rather 'Riv-ish' in their organic, make-do approach! And the people depicted were living car-free back in the '70s and '80s! Savvas On Saturday, March 2, 2013 2:49:27 AM UTC+10:30, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: This is somewhat OT but the pics are full of stuff from Riv... Aussie Wool, Bosco Bars, Betty Foy, Cork Grips, and more. I wrote a guest post on a friends blog about family biking and going car-free. Thought it might be of interest to some folks on here. Becoming A Biking Familyhttp://paranoidstayathomemom.blogspot.com/2013/02/guest-post-becoming-biking-family.html --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT Bunyan Velo
Wonderful read, I couldn't put it down. The writing was head and shoulders above anything in the popular cycling press, as I read I kept thinking of it as literary bicycle magazine, there was actual thought and reflection in the articles and the photography. It reminded me of Peltenon and Switchback but with better writing and definitely better layout. Thanks for sharing. On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 5:41:36 PM UTC-6, Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Bunyan Velo is a new online publication by a local guy that is focused on bicycle travel and adventure. I wrote an article and provided a bunch of photos for the first issue, which was released today. It's really nicely done, in my opinion, and I think some of you will enjoy it. http://www.bunyanvelo.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Nice 62cm Quickbeam on the 'bay
Ran across this yesterday but forgot to post it here. It is a frame only with front rack, if it was my size I'd probably bid on it. Here's the link: *http://tinyurl.com/bfy3n33* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: P45 Longboard question
Here are a couple of links from Sheldon Brown that may help, so far they are the clearest articles I cold find. http://sheldonbrown.com/650b.html http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:15:52 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: From the Riv site, about the P45 Longboards: * * *Only available in one size for now, the P45, which fits 650B and 700c wheels up to 45mm wide mediumish fat tires. Works on 26 wheeled bikes, for super duper coverage, but you'll need to take off the long front fender flap or swap it out with the shorty flap.http://http//www.rivbike.com/product-p/fe92.htm * * * Has anyone ever tried to mount these on a frame meant for 26 wheels? Scuttlebutt says that heat can help plastic fenders acquire and keep a slightly new shape without external tension (as from the stays, tension that might cause them to crack prematurely)? I'm game to invest and try (this for the '03 errand Riv with 25 actual diameter wheels), but if someone has already done so and found it a losing proposition, I'd be grateful to hear about it before spending. Thanks. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Stuff for sale
Alex- I'd like the Northroads if they're still available, I'm in St. Paul so I could pick them up, I live in Highland. On Sunday, January 20, 2013 11:16:06 AM UTC-6, velobandit wrote: For sale are gently to never used items, shipping $5-10 depending on the item(s). See the link for the pics: https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A1JtdOXmGa4I7p If interested, please email me directly. PayPal is preferred. Nitto R-14 rear rack, excellent condition: $60, included clamps. Nitto Mini Front rack, excellent condition: $60, included clamps. Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem, 120mm, bar clamp 26mm: $30 or trade for 90mm. Nitto North Road handlebars, 25.4 clamp, 54 cm C to C: $25. 700c Honjo aluminum fenders including the hardware. Model: NH401-700N, width: 40 mm, depth: 20 mm, finish: smooth, round, no fluting or ridge. Price: $30 Thomson Elite Setback seat post, excellent condition: $30 Paul Canti brake levers, excellent condition: $60 for a pair. Unused NOS front and rear Shimano Dura Ace centerpull brake calipers. Includes all the hardware i.e., cable yokes, front and rear cable hangers (rear has quick release), washers, etc. 47-65mm reach. Asking $30. Or trade for either Nitto 70mm stem or Nitto drop bars. Thanks, Alex St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5Dkyif1_WvIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Vittoria 1976 Men's Cycling Shoe
Those Vittorias really bring back memories of metal cleats nails and above all comfort. I started riding those in the late '60s and until the final pair gave up the ghost have yet to experience a more comfortable shoe. Also, I just stumbled onto another blast from the past on Ebay. Puma was one of the more popular shoe brands in the '70s and '80s this is the first time I've sen something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/170970918746?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 Now there are a pair of stiff soles, not sure about the wear but wold be interesting to test them out. On Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:44:41 PM UTC-5, Kris wrote: Any opinions on these shoes? I have no desire to give up clipless pedals, but I am also finding cycling shoes more and more obnoxious. They are either a $350 carbon disaster or a massive touring shoe that seems more suited for hiking. I love the look of these Vittoria shoes and the SPD compatibility. The price seems excessive. http://publicbikes.com/p/Vittoria-1976-Mens-Cycling-Shoe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ps8N5Nvqb2oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new(to me) A. Homer Hilsen finally built up after months of sitting in a box.
Very nice...he wood fenders really bring out the classic character of the Hilson. On Sunday, January 6, 2013 1:18:51 PM UTC-6, David Spranger wrote: Pics for your perusal: http://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/sets/72157632454982868/ David Spranger Charlotte, NC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Z6cUOirq8UMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A Friends New Hilborne
Nice set up...the Bosco bars really seem to fit the Sam and the photos with her in different riding positions really helped in visualizing the entire build. What size is the frame? I've been thinking of Boscos for my LHT xtracycle build if the Surley Open bars don't work out. You've got an amazing shop...makes me drool every time I see it. On Friday, December 28, 2012 3:56:18 PM UTC-6, Kelly wrote: The sale on the mis-paited hilbornes caught a Susan's attention and she ordered it. She is also learning to do much of the work herself. She had borrowed or Holdsworth for a tour earlier this year with Dawn and I. Here are some photos of the first and second iterations of the bike. Still have to wait on fenders to arrive, racks, bags, and dyno hub and lights. Looks great so far. Kelly http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157632369325816/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/d2h3ckB9ewwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Slightly OT: Looking for Rivish friendly LBS in Scottsdale area
Looking for a friendly non-race (if that even exists) LBS is the Scottsdale AZ area. I'm going to be shipping a bike down to my niece in Scottsdale and need to find a friendly shop that is not to focused on racing especially mountain. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N3m7FAlZtikJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto
I read about this guy in an article in I think Dirt Rag or maybe Bicycle Time this past spring. The article was a column by a mountain bike racer who could not adapt to clipless, he was encouraged to try flat pedals by his strength coach who I think was this same guy. Anyway, it opened up a whole new world for me, I have neurological problems with feet not taking orders from my brain when trying activate small motor movement so after a lifetime of riding with toe clips and slotted cleats I had to find something else. After trying and failing to be able to use clipless pedals I gave number of flat pedals a try. what I found was that my anxiety level while riding on city streets etc. declined significantly and opened the way for my old confidence to return. The other thing I noticed was how much better my pedal stroke was. This along with months of postural restoration PT, which opened my hips and pelvis, my pedal stroke is much lighter and is taking advantage of higher pelvic flexibility which has reactivated my ham strings and glutes in the pedal stroke instead of stressing my quads and knees. I'll definitly be trying some 50-10s this coming season. Incidently Competitive Cyclist has them on sale now 50% off here's the link: http://www.competitivecyclist.com/specials/five-ten.498.html On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:21:05 PM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: This is an impressive document about platform pedals. It echoes much of what GP has said about this subject for years. https://www.bikejames.com/strength/the-flat-pedal-revolution-manifesto-how-to-improve-your-riding-with-flat-pedals/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4yQCUg9xjvwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto
Zappos also has them on sale but not as good of a discount. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:21:05 PM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: This is an impressive document about platform pedals. It echoes much of what GP has said about this subject for years. https://www.bikejames.com/strength/the-flat-pedal-revolution-manifesto-how-to-improve-your-riding-with-flat-pedals/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8hamsP6APxIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Flat pedal revolution manifesto
Rene' I suffered with Morton's neuroma, after gritting through a marathon, I gave in and had surgery. The surgery was in the doc's office and I was fully functional in weeks. After living with it for so long, I was really happy to have the pain gone and return actively usung my feet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AkZxWGjPzxMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Podcast of interest: The Gospel According to St Grant
Just finished listening to this very excellent interview, it's the first time I've heard Grant. His thoughts and responses during the interview go a long way towards clarifying or maybe simplifying his philosophy behind Just Ride and that is to just ride. If we ride because we enjoy it then it doesn't matter what we wear, how fast we go or even if we have a destination. Approaching cycling from that point of view basically says ( like everything else we do in life) if it is fun, enjoyable and you love to do it then that is really all that is important. Thinking of riding as just that, a fun and enjoyable way to get around, makes cycling less intimidating and more inviting for non-cyclist to give it a try. He and the interviewer go a long way in exposing the conundrum faced by folks who for whatever reason are looking to get a new or first bike. For those of us who not only love to ride but also see the bike as viable mode of transportation Grant's points especially around our tendency to feel we have to emulate role models is very encouraging. We as a culture seem to feel the need to value an activity based on effort, or external validation of the work we accomplished instead of the joy the effort brings us. And this is where the core of what I think GP is getting at comes out...if it is not comfortable, enjoyable or pleasurable then why do it? For many,cycling seems to present itself as uncomfortable work, because for many the only image they have is that offered by suffering racers. However,as many of us have no doubt observed, there is an ever growing number of people who, for whatever reason, are showing up on our streets and paths using their bikes to get around, regardless of what they are wearing. because they are just riding, and by doing so making riding a bike more inviting. In the end the more variety and inclusive cycling becomes the more its' positive effect will be felt and the more its' varied uses will be accepted and incorporated into daily life. On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 9:14:26 AM UTC-6, Christian wrote: The Bike Show, a British podcast I subscribe to, which is often excellent, has a new show. I've not listened but it will surely be of interest to some here. http://thebikeshow.net/the-gospel-according-to-st-grant/ Check out the other episodes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XkhxhpSd-IAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OT FS - Three Brooks B17 Saddles
which one is the $30.00 one? From the looks of the back of the tan one it looks like it is used. On Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:45:54 PM UTC-6, JimD wrote: B17's don't work for me. I've switched to Brooks Swift saddles as I seem to have sit bones that 'sit' a Swift best. The recent discussion of Brooks saddle reminded me (and my sponsor) that I still need to address my hoarding problem of Rivendell bicycles and related components: I found the following 3 saddles in the hoard: 1. New B17 - $80 plus shipping - bought several years back, hasn't been mounted, uses copper rivets, has thick leather. 2. Used B17 Special - $60 plus shipping - Rode it for ~1k miles on my Bleriot, thick leather, some scrapes on back. 3. Used B17 - $30 plus shipping - Purchased used online, broken in, likely has several thousand remaining miles. Planning to use USPS flat rate boxes and will only ship domestically shipping should be $12. Pictures at: https://picasaweb.google.com/104293211198065589843/ThreeBrooksB17Saddles -JimD Oh, the USPS www site is something to behold. Doesn't give one confidence that they can survive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/POyRTszLFCEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OT FS - Three Brooks B17 Saddles
Sorry hit the wrong key...I'll take the $30.00 one. On Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:45:54 PM UTC-6, JimD wrote: B17's don't work for me. I've switched to Brooks Swift saddles as I seem to have sit bones that 'sit' a Swift best. The recent discussion of Brooks saddle reminded me (and my sponsor) that I still need to address my hoarding problem of Rivendell bicycles and related components: I found the following 3 saddles in the hoard: 1. New B17 - $80 plus shipping - bought several years back, hasn't been mounted, uses copper rivets, has thick leather. 2. Used B17 Special - $60 plus shipping - Rode it for ~1k miles on my Bleriot, thick leather, some scrapes on back. 3. Used B17 - $30 plus shipping - Purchased used online, broken in, likely has several thousand remaining miles. Planning to use USPS flat rate boxes and will only ship domestically shipping should be $12. Pictures at: https://picasaweb.google.com/104293211198065589843/ThreeBrooksB17Saddles -JimD Oh, the USPS www site is something to behold. Doesn't give one confidence that they can survive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/veLIxNdOxbMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Are Brooks Saddle Worth the Money?
Who remembers riding in wool shorts with real chamois? We used to make our our own, road both unicanitor and Ideale saddles and we never had issues with sores, or rawness considering we usually averaged 100+ miles a day on long tours. The Point? Somewhere along the line we became so convinced that we needed padding and lycra (probably the coolness factor) wool shorts with real chamois disappeared, the same thing happened with saddles, bikes etc. Real comfort didn't seem to be the driving force behind these changes, instead the comfort was manufactured as a marketing tool to increase sales. By emphasizing the role of padding and tech material the actual human factor of comfort was replaced by perceived comfort. There has been some amazing research on this subject, a lot of it done by Dan Ariely. At the time when wool shorts were disappearing, culturally gen x was emerging along with the precursors of the Urban Hipster generation. Gen x was easily distracted by shinning new things which coincidentally helped push cycling into the hi tech gee wizz phase. That move did get a lot of folks on bikes but true functionality still played last fiddle so most of the new cyclists were those willing to to adapt to the image of the racer. The problem with this phase was that it didn't drastically increase the number of non-racing riders, except for those of us whose love of riding was motivation enough. The urban hipster came along and popularized the riding by turning the bike into an accessory and just like Gen x the hipster is adding more and more riders, but unlike Gen x the hipster movement combined with the costs of driving have played a major role in popularizing the bike through the very I could care less attitude they embraced. Now we no longer felt we needed to get all kitted up just to ride to work or run an errand. Each of these trends influenced the buying preferences of the potential cycling market and in turn influenced what was available and at what price, so now that Brooks saddles are cool the demand is high, the same goes for steel bikes. While each trend was accompanied by rising prices driven by demand ( either real or imagined) each trend brought us closer to a wider acceptance of the as both a recreational and utilitarian tool for living. The good side of this story is that another trend will come along and likely effect the price and availability of bike related products. Hopefully that trend will be more well rounded in a way that increases bike useage by normal folks something we are already seeing in the tragic aftermath of Sandy, bikes have become one of the easiest ways to get around. I'll stop here. On Saturday, November 24, 2012 7:58:38 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: my buddy is very fond of his Bertoud, though he put Brooks Aged, B17 and B68S, on his tandem. While I'm sure Brooks must have some UK-made lines, the majority of all their products are made in China, so there really isn't a labor cost issue built into Brooks price. Most of what we're paying for is marketing cost. Hence the ability of Brooks to unload mass product that we see selling at $50 below retail. It takes a lot of money to keep up that Rapha-esque image, but that may be what is required to get their name out to a younger market. A very similar business model must be Hardy (Brothers), the fly reel maker By Appointment to HRH, who has survived more than a couple of reboots. The cost of UK labor was destroying their market. In the end, other than woes for the unemployed, what's the difference between Korea-CNC and UK-CNC? But they have survived by keeping a select line of English-made products, while the bulk of their line is made offshore - they sell these as designed and engineered in England. I personally am very happy to see them keep these traditional models alive that would have otherwise priced themselves out of the market. On Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:11:54 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote: Like Matt, I find leather saddles more comfortable without padding in my pants. Wool Boxers under riding shorts or pants- I like MUSA fine, as well as ZOIC. Selle Anatomicas saddles are comfortable from the start, while Brooks B17s take about 300 - 500 miles for me to feel that ahh sensation. I ride with the nose uptilted, as many other riders do (with bars at or higher than the saddle). I have never liked the Brooks Team Pro. I have one but haven't liked it enough to sit on it long enough to break it in. As Grant noted, Brooks lasts longer than Selle Anatomica. I've worn out one Selle, and zero Brooks saddles in the past 10 years of riding. Since you're more likely to ride if you're comfortable on your bike, a pleasant saddle set up is worth the money. Saddles do go on sale (another post noted Selle's current one) if price is a sensitive issue or you can buy from a vendor you want to support realizing that it's
[RBW] Are Brooks Saddle Worth the Money?
I've been watching them on eBay and there are some good deals. Auction B-17s lately have been topping out around +/-$70-$85, with an occasional ringer inn the $60 range. The higher end ones seem to be better deals when compared to the msrp. It is to bad that Ideal is no longer around, since it was a great saddle and not as spendy as Brooks. I've ridden a lot of different saddles over 50+years of ridding and leather has always been my favorite especially for long distance touring. They are pricey but I've justified it by the comfort and lack of saddle soreness over thousands of miles and multiple 100mi days. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RyesNhQMTFUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Industries, Bar ends, Tubus Cosmo, Sugino XD, 105/Mavic Wheelset, 64cm Touring Frame, more
Ryan I'm interested in the bar end shifters, is the entire assembly included, e.g. end plugs and shifter handles? Could you post a better photo? Thanks On Saturday, November 3, 2012 5:00:52 PM UTC-5, Ryan Ray wrote: I have a ton of bike stuff for sale. Most of these pics were not taken today so if somebody really needs a super up to date pic let me know and I'll take one. I think I'll head to the garage tomorrow and post a Flickr set. Swift Industries Short Stack Panniers $200 ($270 new) These were used on 2 camping trips this summer and for a few weeks while commuting before I switched to a different setup. They are in basically mint condition. Specially for something designed to last forever. I bought these at the Swift Industries workshop in Ballard. Best panniers you can get. I have another kiddo on the way and decided I'll build an extracycle for camping next year so I don't need these. Photos: http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/577045_3957633148073_1817095096_n.jpg http://builtbyswift.com/products/2 (this is the bags on their site) Tubus Cosmo $150 Same deal: This was used on 2 camping trips this summer for a few weeks while commuting before I switched to a different setup. This is the best rack money can buy. I think it's better than the Nitto because it has a better design. Bags can sit low and back so they ride nice and have plenty of heal clearance. Silver finish. Works great for tall frames with steep seatstays. Photos: http://www.thetouringstore.com/TUBUS/Cosmo/Tubus-Cosmo-1.jpg Sorry the rack isn't in focus http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8066/8151723375_e48110a2e8_h.jpg Nitto M-12 $80 New frame doesn't have cantis. Yay! I'll have to mount my Wald basket on something else. Boo! Like new. Installed once. Bolts included. 105, Mavic Open Sport wheelset $150 Used about a year. Not too many miles on them. Clean/nice. These were handbuilt but not by me. Shimano dura ace bar ends $25 Pretty scuffed up but work great. Not very good photo of them: http://i.ebayimg.com/t/2006-Rivendell-Rambouillet-Extra-Large-touring-bike-/00/s/NjczWDYzOA==/$(KGrHqRHJEkFBb(!olR1BQdzlRJ3Lg~~60_12.JPG Sugino Triple XD2? $75 I believe it came original on a the Ram. Rivindell Roughy Toughies $50 I wish I knew the exact miles but they are no more than a few months old and not very many miles. New bike came with 32mm paselas and I'm going to stick with them. This is the best 28mm tire Iv'e tried. Love the smooth tread pattern. 2007 Shimano 8 speed XT long cage derailer $35 In nice shape. The all silver version. Another terrible pic: http://i.ebayimg.com/t/2006-Rivendell-Rambouillet-Extra-Large-touring-bike-/00/s/NzIwWDk2MA==/$(KGrHqR,!pwFB,2,ZF7SBQdzlNCQww~~60_12.JPG 64cm 1989 Giant of Holland Touring Frameset $200 Really interesting bike. I really like this frame but the top tube was too short for me. It has mounts for all sorts of extras. Wheel lock, rear tire generator, mid for eyelets, eyelets for both fenders and racks. Double butted chromo. Forged dropouts. Made in Holland supposedly. I'm the 2nd owner. Fits 33s and metal fenders just fine but only if you are competent at setting up metal fenders. I ended up running 28s because I am not. This is a great bike. Included: Generator Wheel lock Seat post Less than a year old bottom bracket - shimano, sealed original headset Origin 8 Ultimate Canti brakes. $50 I switched to some hard to set up but nice Shimano vintage ones to these and couldn't be happier. I got compliments on them all the time. Paid $80. Less than a year old. It's these: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41WqZFOCcAL._SL500_AA300_.jpg Deore Vintage Cantis, new salmon kool stops: $15 Came with my bike. I could never set these up very well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4t8cNbXHUpIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hilly Hundred - Some Riv's including beautiful Hunqapillar with a flat.
Your AHH looks great! So does the Hunq and the LHT I grew up in St. Louis where was the ride? While I love my Sam every time I see an Atlantis I have to reach for my drool cup. Loved the photos ended up checking out the loaded tour ones brings back lotsa memories. On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:52:40 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote: Friday night at registration for the Hilly Hundred we saw this beautiful Hunqapillar. (even with flat tire) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8112774114/in/photostream We went to the bicycle porn tent and by the time we got back the bike and owner were gone. It was a great weekend and we saw this 68 cm Bomba diag http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8112777098/in/set-72157631828024667 Also ran into Shawn and his Atlantis that is spotless while my 3 year old AHH is beat to hell. (grrr) :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8112777398/in/set-72157631828024667 There seemed to be more bikes with fenders and larger tires than in years past. (or I'm just seeing them more or maybe a tad of both) So here is a nice Surely.. The owner made me take another picture after he ripped the seat cover off.. :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8112764937/in/set-72157631828024667/ And here is my AHH http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8112775658/in/set-72157631828024667 Great time and ride Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vKkpetRZQdUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Marginally OT
Gorgeous! That is truly a work of kinetic art in both form and function. It deserves its' own gallery installation (said as I reach for my drool cup). On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:32:47 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: OK, I know this is stretching it, but I’m usually pretty scrupulous about staying on topic – and I’m so excited about finishing this bike that I have to share with the group. I signed up for a weeklong one-on-one frame building course (“bike camp”, to my wife, who gave it to me as a Christmas present) with Mike Flanagan at A.N.T., and made this frame (with considerable help from Mike). I finished the final build this weekend. Here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8087111571/in/photostream My first fixed gear, very fun but very strange feeling at first. Riv content (there really IS some): alloy Bosco bars, and Nigel Smythe Keven’s bag. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Fg2hc5m7ekcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Need shoe recommendations for riding.
I've been on the same search since I went clipless and stumbled onto the Patagonia lantis it works great with pinned platforms and most importantly me its got a good toe box. They were the most comfortable I've found inprobably 20 years. The only thing I'm noticing is the pins may be doing some damage to the sole, I'm going to test the on the mks grip master ones without pins and see if they don't slip. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DznFCIgiMyEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hand Numbness, an observation
A slight upward tilt of the saddle nose also takes pressure off both hands and shoulders that in combination with using the hoods more than the bar tops helps to straighten the nerve channel that runs trough your wrist. This has worked for me fot over 50 years. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MfkRsYuGQSgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Cycling in the Economist
Almost daily I see more and more old guys like me out doing the same thing I'm doing on a bike...running errands and just using a bike for getting around. This is something I hardly saw 10 to 15 years ago, there were very few of us riding for transportation let alone year around. Each time i ride through Minneapolis it feels more and more like Eugene OR felt in the late '70s...people riding and bikes parked every where. I think Jim is right about the trails in Mpls it is nice to have streets already scouted for route suitability, something we are lacking just across the river in St. Paul. As to the weather I see signs in the industry that will probably lead to more gear clothing designed to make it easier for more people to venture out in winter here regardless of snow. That's one of the factors that helped increase winter bike use in Portland. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PIiBd7EgZvoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hand Numbness, an observation
Back in the 70s I would experience some hand numbness after about 50-60 miles, for quite a few years the standard fix was to put the effected hand behind my back, squeeze my fingers several times and the problem would be gone. At the same time I started playing around with both saddle and brake position and found that a slight upward tilt of the nose took care of most of the of the problem. After getting saddle tilt correct I started moving the brake hoods slightly up and down until my wrist was straight when on the hood. Both adjustments pretty much took care of the issue. A few years ago I mentioned the issue to my neurologist...the issue of hand and finger numbness stems mostly from pinching the nerve canal that takes the nerves through the wrist into the hand and fingers. Keeping that channel open by not riding long with the wrists bent helps to reduce the numbness. However, as we age and get more arthritic those channels naturally narrow making it easier for the nerves to be effected. I spent a lot of time this year on my mountain bike this year using it as my main errand vehicle and nothing seemed to reduce the hand and finger numbness. I tried the Ergo bar ends changed handle bars saddle height etc. nothing made a difference. I don't have that problem with my Sam or my other road bikes. the straight handlebars combined with frame geometry would not allow me to decrease the wrist bend enough to keep the wrist nerve channel open. Apparently the problem is similar to other repetitive injuries caused by joint position. So maybe play round with both saddle and handlebar positioning, and because we each have unique anatomic issues works for one may not work for another. On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:03:57 PM UTC-5, Mojo wrote: Recently over on the Surly Long Haul Trucker list, there was a thread on bike setup and comfort. The original poster was complaining about hand numbness and most folks wrote in with the advice to raise the bars and move the saddle aft to take pressure off the hands. I didn't have any good further advice for the OP. But I do have an associated observation. After riding low-handlebar racing type bikes from 1976-2001, I have been riding more Rivendell-influenced bikes ever since, with my handlebars very near saddle height and saddle now set back 1-2cm behind KOPS. I have always had very minor numb hand issues. I just usually shake them out and they are fine for several more miles or even hours. But I have observed over the last few years that my numb hands seem to occur most often when climbing, less so riding the flats, and never descending. This observation seems to run counter to the idea that it is the extra weight on the hands that creates numbness. Again its just a minor problem for me. I nearly always wear gloves. My bars are all thinly wrapped in cork/fake cork. My reach is fairly generous. Now of course on a loop ride I will be spending much more time climbing than descending and maybe the most amout of time overall riding on mostly flat roads. But if the theory that more weight on the hands leads to numbness, why am I not feeling it at the bottom of my descents instead of on the climbs? I really don't even have an hypothesis at this point. Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/a9nfBBL77SQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 53cm Heron Wayfarer F/F/HS $700 + shipping
A true beauty, the color is stunning and the detail just accentuates the artistry in creating such a gem...truly tempting, bikes are working art, I wish I could justify it, but my wife is getting a Betty Foy after her knee replacement. Thanks for letting us gaze on it. On Thursday, September 13, 2012 5:43:38 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote: Decided to sell the Heron that I was going to build out for my wife for touring - but she is too hooked on her Betty Foy. See, I can put a lowrider on the Betty, no problem! Anyway, the frame is in great shape. A few very minor paint dings and a decal scratch. All straight, no dents or anything. Bailey Falls Blue is the color. An interesting dark blue/green metallic. I have a bottle of touch up paint for it from Waterford and an extra decal set. Stronglight A9 alloy headset with both sealed and needle bearing set. The sealed bearings are installed - the needle bearing set is new and unused. This is a really great frame for all around riding or loaded touring. Very comfortable and stable yet pretty lively thanks to the geo and the tubing selection. 26 wheels on the 53cm frame. Grant design and Waterford build. The Wayfarer is basically the Heron Touring frame with these changes: • Features a new, heavy-duty fork equipped with mid-fork braze-ons for low-rider rack mounting. • New stainless steel dropouts are left bare on the mounting surfaces to prevent paint damage from quick release skewers and hubs. • The chainstay bridge is positioned the same distance from the rear axle as the seatstay bridge to provide a cleaner fender installation. • The seatstay and chainstay bridges provide braze-ons for simple, direct fender mounting. The 53cm will fit a saddle height of ~66 to 69cm. Depends how much post you want to show. Pictures can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/78804025@N08/sets/72157631529864164 Lots of info available thanks to the internet archive. Sizing: http://web.archive.org/web/20061029010038/http://www.heronbicycles.com/sizing.html Tubing/history/specs: http://web.archive.org/web/20061029005905/http://www.heronbicycles.com/faq.html Geo: http://web.archive.org/web/20061029010109/http://www.heronbicycles.com/geometry.html Colors: http://web.archive.org/web/20061029005853/http://www.heronbicycles.com/colors.html Heron Models: http://web.archive.org/web/20061029010028/http://www.heronbicycles.com/frames.html PayPal personal, please. I am in the SF Bay Area (Marin Berkeley) so a pickup or delivery/meeting is very possible. Email off-list if you are interested or have questions. Thanks Dan Marin CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mfaKh2amKdQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Recomendations?
I've been using a number of different things to do errands and grocery runs. Big runs, that involve stuff I don't have a way to carry on my Sam, are taken care of with my Burley flatbed trailer. For loads that will work on Sam I use two Minnehaha bags ( http://www.calhouncycle.com/productcart/pc/Canvas-Grocery-Bag-Pannier-93p1703.htm) they snap closed, have both shoulder strap and hand grab straps neither of which interfere with riding. INstead of shlepping a paper grocery bag out I just use the bags themselves in the same way I would use a reuseable grocery bag. The other bag I use is the Banjo Bro Market bag, which has a cover that snaps closed. It also folds flat against the rack and like the Minnehaha ones can be left on the bike. One caveat I've learned is that at 66 I can no longer easily swing my leg over anything higher than my saddle or wider than my leg will extend...not to long ago I used to be able swing wither leg easily over whatever I had back or front. Ecovelo.net has some good reviews of both. On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:12:22 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: 1. Cheapest *decent* hanging scale with capacity of at least 40 lb. I know Park makes an electric one for $60, but I would be quite happy with a mechanical model if cheaper. (I want to find out how heavy my Fargo is.) (Seriously, I like to weigh my grocery loads -- just 'cause.) 2. Prest-cum-Schrader replacement pump chuck. In a fit of brass-and-Silca-lust folly I cut the very decent one-chuck-for-both head off my pump to replace with a nice (looking) brass screw on Schraeder chuck that I thought might work better on my daughter's Schrader valves -- which it does, but screwing on the chuck is a royal arse pain especially when I have to use a Presta adaptor for my own bikes. 3. Bar tape. I've found my own current favorite but am curious what others think. I like the Lizard Skins 2.5 (I think it is also made in 1.8 and a thicker one whose measurement I don't have). 4. Grocery pannier. Here I have certain criteria to meet: - Easy on and off the rack. - Can be used singly or as a pair. - Secure on the rack - Holds a full-to-top paper grocery sack. - Has either a cover that will accomodate overflow, or else has loops to which one can attach a cargo net. - It is easy to insert a bulging-ly full grocery sack. (This criterion puts my otherwise wonderful Ortlieb Packers out of the running because of the (for this use) fiddly and obstructive flap and drawstrings.) - Universal fit on many different kinds of rack. - Stiffener on back if not on sides (all-cloth panniers tend in my experience to end up in the spokes with certain simpler racks). Of course, cost and durability are part of the equation. No Wald baskets! No saddlebags! Saddlebags, even the huge Hoss, don't hold enough, so I prefer panniers which I can mix and match as required. I realize that the easiest and capacious grocery carrier in the universe is a huge Wald Newsboy, but I don't have a bike that I'd care to add one of these to. I've used several different sorts of camping panniers, many different commuting panniers, Avenir grocery panniers (currently in use), Gnashbar grocery pannier, Axiom Dutch (style) boxy panniers, rear Wald baskets (too damn' narrow!), Carradice panniers and just about all Brooks and many other saddlebags out there. I want something that is pretty much designed for full paper grocery sacks. For convenience, the Avenirs are good though they are not stiff enough to be ideal. They are also too shallow and have no cover nor provision for a cargo net. Good only for short trips and you have to make sure you don't pack small, loose things on top. The folding arrangement is primitive, but they do fold when not full, which is a plus. The Axioms, in stock form, sagged too much under any load and the lip of the opening deformed under weight. I had to rivet a collar of aluminum strip around the mouths to stiffen them. Thus modified they are much better but the mouths are still a bit too narrow for easy insertion and removal of very full bags. Frankly, when cost is a large factor, I've used nothing more convenient than the drape-over-rack pair of Target kitchen trashcans that I joined with pop rivets, dowels and nylon webbing. Wider at top, deep, so that it is easy to insert and securely carry even an overflowing bag. Certainly sturdy enough if you reinforce all weight-bearing points with big washers or thin plywood or sheet metal. Easy on and off, since they drape, and a single toe strap holds them securely fore-and-aft. And the total cost (trashcans on sale) was no more than $12. IMO, these are better than milk crates or used cat litter boxes. You can also plaster all sorts of reflective material on the backs and even bolt blinkies permanently to them. Their big defect of course is that they look ineffably dorky. But I can see a
