Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[Garth]

If you are referring to the Origin 8 double looking as it does, hey, it's a 
crank and it works well ! I too used to think a crank ought to look a certain 
way, be cold forged, etc, but then I realized were opinions from where I know 
not, while I just want stuff that works well and forget about it altogether. 
Keep the head up and enjoy the broad view ! 

The Q with a 107mm bb is roughly 152mm, which I see is just slightly over what 
the modern Dura Ace/Campy racing doubles are these days - 146mm. 


Long ago I tried the TA Cyclourist crank, and to me it felt like a wet noodle, 
those fine looking arms flexed alot and required constant fd trimming from poor 
TA QC. I had to return it and bought the TA Zephyr at the time. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[Jay Connolly]

I have a couple of 46/30 cranks--one Velo Orange, one White Industries. More 
than enough top end and even at the bottom for all but loaded touring.

Jay

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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[Daniel D.]

If I end up doing the build instead of letting riv handle it, considering the 
IRD Defiant cranks

 
http://www.interlocracing.com/crank-arms-chainrings/defiant-wide-compact-road-crank-set
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[lum gim fong]

I use silver barend shifters with xd2 crankset and shimano HG50 7-speed 
cassette with 4.5 mm spacer and SRAM 8-speed chain on both my rivbikes.
This is fantastic for friction shifting.

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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[Steve Palincsar]

On 08/15/2017 02:40 PM, Daniel D. wrote:
Thanks for the thoughts everyone. The worry's died down a bit.  Blue 
vs. gray is not quite as settled :p.


Another thing was reading that the silver and sugino cranks are not 
10-speed friendly.


There is a Sugino triple that is, the Alpina 2. 
http://store.somafab.com/sual10scr.html


Sugino Alpina2 Touring Triple 10s Crankset


I like my current setup with SRAM bar ends, friction in the front and 
10-speed indexing in the rear.  But after checking out prices and 
availability going to 9-speed isn't a big deal


The XD600 definitely is cheaper than the Alpina 2.

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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[Steve Palincsar]

On 08/10/2017 06:51 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

Steve correctly pointed out a qualifier

"Of course, there could also be an issue with the stoutness of tubing
required for a loaded touring bike vs an unloaded roadie, so tell us
about the frame tubing of the touring bike as well.  And by all means,
describe. "

My comment was deliberate.  That's precisely why I limited my offered 
comments to 'geometry and fit'.  I intended to withhold comment about 
the more qualitative aspects that are informed as much by the rider 
and the rider's preferences.  You are absolutely right that a 
perfectly fitting bike made from gossamer mithril is a different 
machine than a bike with the identical geometry made of thickwall OS.






But tubing stiffness is qualitative!  How it affects you, on the other 
hand, is not.


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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[Bill Lindsay]

Steve correctly pointed out a qualifier

"Of course, there could also be an issue with the stoutness of tubing 
required for a loaded touring bike vs an unloaded roadie, so tell us 
about the frame tubing of the touring bike as well.  And by all means, 
describe. "

My comment was deliberate.  That's precisely why I limited my offered 
comments to 'geometry and fit'.  I intended to withhold comment about the 
more qualitative aspects that are informed as much by the rider and the 
rider's preferences.  You are absolutely right that a perfectly fitting 
bike made from gossamer mithril is a different machine than a bike with the 
identical geometry made of thickwall OS.  

BL in EC

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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[Patrick Moore]

A wise woman!

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Jay Connolly  wrote:

> ... When my wife found me tearing furiously at the packaging of a new part
> one day, she paused in the doorway for a moment and said, "This is instead
> of a younger woman, right?" And I said, "Absolutely and unequivocally,
> Yes!" And she said, "Then it's okay with me."
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: How do you guys do it, buying a bike sight unseen

[Steve Palincsar]

On 08/10/2017 05:24 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
I think it's the same as ordering a custom.  Trust the supplier + 
comprehend the numbers.  If you don't or can't comprehend the numbers, 
then it's a leap of faith.  Move it on if you hate it and try to learn 
something from it that you can use next time.


Well said!



Do you have the geometry chart for your drop bar touring bike?  Let's 
see it and perhaps you could describe why it would be a bad thing if 
your Roadini rode like your touring bike, and I'm sure we could point 
to differences in geometry and fit.


Of course, there could also be an issue with the stoutness of tubing 
required for a loaded touring bike vs an unloaded roadie, so tell us 
about the frame tubing of the touring bike as well.  And by all means, 
describe.


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