Re: [RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

[Leaf Slayer]

Yes, quite wide. If you're putting them on a mountain bike 46s would be 
fine. For a lot of time on the road, I'd definitely go narrower. The bars 
really shine when you're in the drops on descents. 

--mike

On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 11:33:02 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Thanks Tim. That helps a bunch. So 46cm Cowchippers are really quite wide. 
> I might have a monster cross in my future. I’m thinking I will flip a coin 
> between 42 and 44 
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito Ca 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

[Bill Lindsay]

Thanks Tim. That helps a bunch. So 46cm Cowchippers are really quite wide. I 
might have a monster cross in my future. I’m thinking I will flip a coin 
between 42 and 44

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito Ca 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

[Tim Gavin]

Bill, I can take measurements and pics later if you want.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I hope this isn't too tangential.  Since you mention cowchippers, I'm in
> the market for a pair and I'm guessing at width.  Are 46cm Cowchippers 46cm
> wide at the flared drops?  Or are they 46cm at the hoods/ramps?  Or
> something else altogether?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 5:43:50 AM UTC-8, Leaf Slayer wrote:
>>
>> I had the Cowchippers, 46cm, on my Vaya a while back and never really
>> liked the way they felt on that bike. They seemed too wide. Like wider than
>> the 48cm Noodles on my LHT. I did like the way they felt in the drops on
>> descents. I was also entertaining thoughts of that bike being a go fast all
>> road machine. Something about that bike ultimately never felt right and I
>> sold it. I think the Cowchippers will work well on the Ogre. If this works
>> well I could see going to the next lever and setting it up with a Crust
>> Towel Rack, a 66cm wide drop bar.
>>
>> I know Grant has moved away from drops but I still kept expecting Riv to
>> put out a short reach shallow drop bar of their own.
>>
>> --mike
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

[Tim Gavin]

Bill-

Salsa measures their bars pretty accurately; a 46 cm Cowchipper is 46 cm
between the center of the bar at the top of each drop.  However, since the
bars flare outward throughout the drop curve, the brake hoods are already
at like 50 cm, and the ends of the bars are at like 54 cm.

On the 42 cm Cowchippers, the brake hoods are around 46 cm wide and the bar
ends are around 50 cm.  That feels better to me on an
all-rounder/gravel/cross bike.  Wider might feel better on a drop-MTB or
monster cross.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I hope this isn't too tangential.  Since you mention cowchippers, I'm in
> the market for a pair and I'm guessing at width.  Are 46cm Cowchippers 46cm
> wide at the flared drops?  Or are they 46cm at the hoods/ramps?  Or
> something else altogether?
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 5:43:50 AM UTC-8, Leaf Slayer wrote:
>>
>> I had the Cowchippers, 46cm, on my Vaya a while back and never really
>> liked the way they felt on that bike. They seemed too wide. Like wider than
>> the 48cm Noodles on my LHT. I did like the way they felt in the drops on
>> descents. I was also entertaining thoughts of that bike being a go fast all
>> road machine. Something about that bike ultimately never felt right and I
>> sold it. I think the Cowchippers will work well on the Ogre. If this works
>> well I could see going to the next lever and setting it up with a Crust
>> Towel Rack, a 66cm wide drop bar.
>>
>> I know Grant has moved away from drops but I still kept expecting Riv to
>> put out a short reach shallow drop bar of their own.
>>
>> --mike
>>
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[RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

[Bill Lindsay]

I hope this isn't too tangential.  Since you mention cowchippers, I'm in 
the market for a pair and I'm guessing at width.  Are 46cm Cowchippers 46cm 
wide at the flared drops?  Or are they 46cm at the hoods/ramps?  Or 
something else altogether?

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, March 6, 2018 at 5:43:50 AM UTC-8, Leaf Slayer wrote:
>
> I had the Cowchippers, 46cm, on my Vaya a while back and never really 
> liked the way they felt on that bike. They seemed too wide. Like wider than 
> the 48cm Noodles on my LHT. I did like the way they felt in the drops on 
> descents. I was also entertaining thoughts of that bike being a go fast all 
> road machine. Something about that bike ultimately never felt right and I 
> sold it. I think the Cowchippers will work well on the Ogre. If this works 
> well I could see going to the next lever and setting it up with a Crust 
> Towel Rack, a 66cm wide drop bar.
>
> I know Grant has moved away from drops but I still kept expecting Riv to 
> put out a short reach shallow drop bar of their own.
>
> --mike
>

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[RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

[Leaf Slayer]

I had the Cowchippers, 46cm, on my Vaya a while back and never really liked 
the way they felt on that bike. They seemed too wide. Like wider than the 
48cm Noodles on my LHT. I did like the way they felt in the drops on 
descents. I was also entertaining thoughts of that bike being a go fast all 
road machine. Something about that bike ultimately never felt right and I 
sold it. I think the Cowchippers will work well on the Ogre. If this works 
well I could see going to the next lever and setting it up with a Crust 
Towel Rack, a 66cm wide drop bar.

I know Grant has moved away from drops but I still kept expecting Riv to 
put out a short reach shallow drop bar of their own.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

[Clayton.sf]

In terms of bars (not that you asked but you might enjoy them anyway). I am 
really enjoying salsa cowchippers for this purpose. They work great with 
the gevenalle shifter too. 

Clayton Scott,
SF, CA

On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 12:33:15 PM UTC-8, Leaf Slayer wrote:
>
> I just ordered 1x10 Gevenalle shifters. They'll work with my current gear. 
> I've wanted a drop-bar large volume tire bike for a long time and I'm 
> hoping this will all come together nicely and satisfy that desire. I'll 
> post it up once it's done. While the only identifiably Rivish item on the 
> bike is the B17, the bike is very much a product of riding Rivs in the past.
>

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[RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

[Leaf Slayer]

I just ordered 1x10 Gevenalle shifters. They'll work with my current gear. 
I've wanted a drop-bar large volume tire bike for a long time and I'm 
hoping this will all come together nicely and satisfy that desire. I'll 
post it up once it's done. While the only identifiably Rivish item on the 
bike is the B17, the bike is very much a product of riding Rivs in the past.

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[RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

[Clayton.sf]

Use 1x gevenalle with 11 speed Dynasys XT der. works very well.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 9:28:45 AM UTC-8, Leaf Slayer wrote:
>
> Haven't chimed in here in a long long time. Curious what folks think. I'm 
> a longtime fan of BE shifters so quite familiar with them. I'm getting 
> ready to convert my Surly Ogre from a Jones Bar to a Cowchipper with a 70mm 
> VO Cigne Stem. I'm running a 10spd Shimano SLX derailer. I'm leaning toward 
> Gevenalle but curious what folks thoughts and experience are with them. I 
> like the Jones bars well enough but really want to try the Cowchippers on 
> the Ogre. The stem gets them in the right place with what should be 
> appropriate extension. I spend more time on dirt roads on this bike than 
> technical singletrack so it should be fine. 
>
> This set-up seems takes a leap of faith as the steerer will be cut down to 
> an otherwise useless length for me. I'm hopeful this set-up will work for 
> me. If not... well, looks like I'll be purchasing a new fork. Don't let 
> anyone tell you threaded steerer tubes and quill stems don't have their 
> place.
>
> Feel free to contact me if you happen to have some Gevenalle shifters for 
> sale (long pull, 10x1, Shimano DynaShift).
>
> Thanks!
>
> --mike
>

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[RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

[Clayton.sf]

Use 1x gevenalle with 11 speed. works very well.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: 1x10 with BE or Gevenalle?

[phil k]

I have the gevenalle GX 1x short pull. They are great. Shift well, 
convenient if you're on the hoods a lot. I recommend. 

On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 12:28:45 PM UTC-5, Leaf Slayer wrote:
>
> Haven't chimed in here in a long long time. Curious what folks think. I'm 
> a longtime fan of BE shifters so quite familiar with them. I'm getting 
> ready to convert my Surly Ogre from a Jones Bar to a Cowchipper with a 70mm 
> VO Cigne Stem. I'm running a 10spd Shimano SLX derailer. I'm leaning toward 
> Gevenalle but curious what folks thoughts and experience are with them. I 
> like the Jones bars well enough but really want to try the Cowchippers on 
> the Ogre. The stem gets them in the right place with what should be 
> appropriate extension. I spend more time on dirt roads on this bike than 
> technical singletrack so it should be fine. 
>
> This set-up seems takes a leap of faith as the steerer will be cut down to 
> an otherwise useless length for me. I'm hopeful this set-up will work for 
> me. If not... well, looks like I'll be purchasing a new fork. Don't let 
> anyone tell you threaded steerer tubes and quill stems don't have their 
> place.
>
> Feel free to contact me if you happen to have some Gevenalle shifters for 
> sale (long pull, 10x1, Shimano DynaShift).
>
> Thanks!
>
> --mike
>

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