Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-15 Thread Daniel D.
HA blast from the past I had one of those. Maybe it's a collectible now?:p On Sunday, May 15, 2016 at 6:16:00 PM UTC-7, masmojo wrote: > > . or a Cool tool! ( I am not sure if they make Cool tools anymore?) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-15 Thread masmojo
Wow guite the numer of boy scouts here! ;-) Were I riding in the wilderness I might tool up, but 99% of my riding is urban jungle. Mostly, if I carry anything its a Y wrench or a Cool tool! ( I am not sure if they make Cool tools anymore?) I mostly only carry tools on a bike thats just been

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-14 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Count me as another who does not wear a belt and suspenders. I've ridden several thousand miles and never had a chain or shifter cable (or spoke) break. Will that happen one day? Quite likely. I certainly won't carry my bike nine miles. I'll hitch, look really sad and hope for a lift, or I'll

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-13 Thread Daniel D.
I'd rather walk the 9 miles when the 100 year storm of bike failures occurs than constantly lug around the tools to deal with it. Items I carry every ride. Medium sized Multi-tool, 1 tubes, patch kit, tire levers, pump, master link, presta/schraeder adapter, and two spare spokes that came

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
walking 9 miles with a bike is also how to spoil a good ride (I actually didn't list everything I carry, I was mostly addressing the small tools question and didn't get into chains and flats) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-11 Thread Jim M.
I'm with you, Mark. If underbiking is a thing, then I think undertooling could be a category too. How do you spoil a good walk? Have all the tools you need to fix something. happy trails jim m wc ca On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 12:38:41 PM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Wow, you guys carry a

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-11 Thread Mark Reimer
Wow, you guys carry a LOT of tools with you!! Not saying it's a bad thing or anything, just surprised! I have a Tracko/Yanco ramblin roll, which is a little roll-up pouch about the size of an apple. Inside I have a Crank Bros cycling multitool, a patch kit, two tire levers, spare master link

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-11 Thread Scott Henry
I'm liking this thread. Off the top of my head I can't really tell you what I carry, but I know its not much.At least a knife and a cellphone.Sealant in the tires or tubes will cause you to become reckless in your ER kits. Thinking of Tim's post though, maybe cyclists should start

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Patrick Moore
It costs far less in time, and hardly more in money, with Orange seal, but the real benefit is being able to ride paper thin, very nicely riding tires basically anywhere I want -- I don't have to use, say, belted Big Apples in dirt or belted Kojaks on road -- *and* to spend almost no time worrying

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Tim Gavin
Flat repair: Sometimes I swap in the spare tube and move on, and sometimes I patch the original. However, by the time I pump up the flat tube to diagnose the flat, it seems easiest just to patch the hole(s) I find right then and there. So, my flat fix procedure is: 1) remove tube and pump up to

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Jim Bronson
Yeah what Steve said. Although, I do have some admiration for people who do patch tubes successfully. I've never been able to get the technique down quite right. On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > On 05/10/2016 09:25 AM, Ginz wrote: > >> I'd

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Jim Bronson
I carry a patch kit, but only for dire, dire emergencies. Like that time I had 5 flats on a 600K. I flatted for the last time with approximately 126 miles to go, just heading out on Day 2. Nobody else in my group was riding 650b, everyone else was 700c. Had I flatted again I would have been

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread 'Stephen Kemp' via RBW Owners Bunch
For the daily commute, just a patch kit, mini pump and tyre levers. It's only 5.5 miles each way so I'm never *that* far from home. For away-from-home riding I add a chain tool, allen keys, adjustable spanner, spoke wrench and a couple of small screwdrivers Stephen -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Garth
Okay Patrick , what does all that "cost" you, not just in money but in *total time involved in every aspect of it *?I'm not asking for self justifications as to why, just a good estimate of time spent in installing and maintaining them . On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 2:56:25 PM

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread George Schick
It's plain that Patrick, living in goat head country, has risen above the needs of those of us in the rest of CONUS (especially Midwestern and Eastern, and maybe Southern). More power to him. As climate change continues (fabricated or just cyclical) we may all learn to adopt these same

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Oh, Steven, open your heart to the light and accept Orange Seal. Bless you, my son. Over and out. Patrick Moore, playing the fool but quite serious about Orange Seal in ABQ, NM -- where he carries *no, not any* patches anymore because of the efulgent wonderousness of Orange Seal. On Tue, May

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 05/10/2016 09:25 AM, Ginz wrote: I'd eliminate one of the tubes. A single tube with patches should be sufficient. "Should." I guess you've never had a bad day. Or failed to find a nearly invisible wire or itsy bitsy tiny glass shard. I have. And even on a group ride, with all but

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Patrick Moore
I very rarely carry cash; probably should have $5 in bills in each bag, though. I've used a $1 bill as a boot before; actually, perhaps it was a $5 ... Long ago. On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Eric Norris wrote: > Paper money works quite well as an emergency boot, and

[RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Garth
2 tubes, a patch kit, Park mini chain tool, Quick Stick, an all-allens-in-one thingy, a few small craftsman wrenches and such , and a Park MT-1 which I had to return numerous of them as I found them to be quite useless in real world usage as the actual tooling of them is irregular. So

Re: [RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Eric Norris
Paper money works quite well as an emergency boot, and it’s one less thing to have to remember. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com > On May 10, 2016, at 8:04 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Oh shee-it: and a wee bit of Tyvek for

[RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Brian Campbell
I ditched the front bag and Nitto rack. I was able to get everything I may actually need in a medium size Acorn seat bag. I found having lots of bike luggage encouraged me to carry lots of non-essentials, as a contingency for situation that might happen On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at

[RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Ginz
I'd eliminate one of the tubes. A single tube with patches should be sufficient. The Silver shifter washers weight almost zero, but. that's the sort of thing I wouldn't carry. I would also not carry extra batteries for my taillight. Heck, I'd sooner carry a small extra taillight that

[RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Ron Mc
many people on the side of the road have sighed in relief when I unrolled my tool bag -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
Clearly you're thinking about this the wrong way. Maybe Yehuda will help clear things up. Grin. http://yehudamoon.com/comic/2015-05-11/ With abandon, Patrick On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 11:16:38 PM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote: > > State your case. > Trying to lighten my front bag load. My bag is heavy

[RBW] Re: Carry a Multi-tool or loose tools, and why?

2016-05-10 Thread Ron Mc
The bike that needs the most individual tools is my old Raleigh. Weight would be a redundant consideration on this bike. But it remains fast and high in my rotation. (I absolutely love the function of the half-step gearing and this frame planes)