Re: [RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

Years ago I used to be sent around the country to do "ethics interviews" of upper down to mid level management -- actually, down to field supervisors in some cases -- pursuant to performing an "ethics audit" of the organization. (I was the "associate consultant" who provided the data to the full

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

If it helps, a lot of what people spend their money on is self-medicating something else they are miserable about in their life. A former co-worked joked after going back to grad school, "yeah, my income has dropped by about 90%, but I'm saving so much on hookers and booze I hardly notice the

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

Rear rack without fenders? Can't be done. Impossible. Nope. No way. Wait. Oops. Works fine. Sardonic grin. https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16786949014/in/album-72157652026645308/ and https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/19390517943/in/album-72157654012893374/ With abandon,

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

It's great that you all are so supportive of my farming goal. My brother was all like "Are you sure that's a good idea?" It's not a sure thing at all, but it sounds more promising than anything I've done in the past. It will be, as was noted earlier in the replies, 'subsistence farming,'

Re: [RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

Once again: compared to what I and most other people do for a living, even scratching hole in the dirt is far, far FAR more dignified, even if less comfortable. This text struck me strongly; from a French essayist and museum curator, I think, of a generation or 2 ago. Farming (not corporate

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

The farm's in Michigan? Rack AND fenders! Good luck with the new adventure. I'm confident that it will be much more successful with a Clem. John The Northern Ohio escapee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

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Wayne, I feel you pain -3 jobs since mid 2012 and I just started the latest one after a (unemployed) 5 month job search. My dilemma was I had a purchased a late 70s Motobecane Grand Touring about a year ago that I had been trying to find for a couple years and then a bunch of new parts for

Re: [RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

Great. Now you can truly be at peace with your decision and have a big wide grin on your face every time you hop on that beautiful bike. Share the joy with some pics when you get it. On Oct 7, 2015 8:07 AM, "Wayne Naha" wrote: > I have been so inspired reading all the

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

I have been so inspired reading all the wonderful replies here. They are heartening and fortifying. After talking it over with my wife, she thinks we can swing it, keeping the Clem. There are lots of things that can be sold here, and really ought to be sold. (Anyone in the market for a 4x5

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

Fantastic, Wayne! 99% of being daring is being stupid enough to move forward. Grin. I understand well the quandary, as many here do. When I ordered my Hunqapillar all I knew is I could ride a Schwinn Chinabike 3 miles but needed time to recover upon returning (brain injury/vertigo thing). I

Re: [RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

Wayne: I hope you'll chronicle your farming experience on this list, the listmeister willing. Somehow, wealthy urban axes are faintly ridiculous (I don't fault Riv for selling them; good tools are a gift from God, even if they are expensive; it's the context, which most of us share, and which is

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

Wayne, you're not alone... Just remember things happen for a reason... One door closes, others open... Nothing like pairing the words 'scary' with 'exciting'... that's what motivates us to make things happen... I say do whatever it takes... whether it's selling other bikes, unessential

Re: [RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

Wayne: Clem or no Clem, best of luck on your next (ad)venture! Evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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Sorry to hear about the trials you're facing, Wayne. As someone who chooses to live in BFE himself, despite the economic sacrifices of doing so, it sounds like this may be a blessing of sorts. Hopefully you can look back on it some day and see it that way. Obviously, you need to do whatever

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

Nothing to add but I too had about 1/2 saved up for a Riv from working side projects before the startup I was at collapsed and I found out I not only didn't have a job but I wasn't getting paid for the last month I worked. That 1500 was swallowed up by bills and everything was fine and a year

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

Obviously you and your family are the only ones that know how tight things will be for you. And what sacrifices everyone has to make - because you won't enjoy the bike if everyone else is doing without things they want. But if there is enough money for everyone to have a little something

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

Have you considered selling some other bike(s) to pay off the Clem? Seems like the Clem is a highly practical bike that would be right at home in a rural area. dougP On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:28:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote: > > Well, a little over a week ago I was laid off from my

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

If it helps, according to Riv's timeline, Clems will be available again next summer. So, it looks like there should be continued chances to get one should you decide to cancel your preorder. Good luck in your farm endeavors. That's a dream of mine if I ever have the opportunity. David Chicago

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

I am sorry to hear that, Wayne! But what a daring and amazing adventure you are stepping into! Attach a plow to Clem and see what happens? Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 10:28:19 AM UTC-6, Wayne Naha wrote: > > Well, a little over a week ago I was laid off from my

[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

sorry to hear, but the farm idea sounds incredible. the way i justified my rivendell was by telling myself that it would stop me from buying vintage bikes and refurbishing them, which is a fun money hole. Also, that the new bike would be a bike to get old with. it more or less did stop that