I think Hwy 41 might be the NorCal/SoCal cutoff, which is weird, since like
all odd-numbered freeways, it’s technically a north-south road.
It angles in the west, but heads straight north in the east, putting Morro
Bay, Kettleman City, Fresno, and Yosemite and Lee Vining all on the
dividing line.
Vons on "The" 101 starts in Paso Robles, though I've never shopped there. I
have shopped at the Safeway in Atascadero, SLO, King City, Salinas, Gilroy,
Hollister, and Morgan Hill.
Mike "no longer in "the" bay area Godwin SLO CA
On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 2:33:26 PM UTC-8 George Schick
Wesley - thanks for the excellent information! Yes, in the area where I
live - Northeastern Chicago suburbs - some of the stores owned by the now
defunct local chain "Dominick's" were taken over and remodeled by a more
local chain "Mariano's". That chain has since been taken over by the the
George,
When a two grocery chains merge to create a new, larger chain, they would
prefer to close down any of their stores that compete with each other right
away. It's the federal government that stops them, because then they could
raise prices with less competition. So instead they
Wesley - thanks for that info. It explains why we have had the closures of
certain grocery stores in our area that have ultimately been taken over by
larger chains, but retained their original identity. But many of these
"overtaken" groceries have eventually declined in product availability
The multiplicity is because when large grocery chains merge, the federal
government often requires the new, larger, chain to keep the original
stores open. In cases like where you now have two Safeways in the same
mall, Safeway will generally be required to sell one to a competitor rather
than
1-2) King City (on 101) and Fresno (on Hwy 99) appear to be the
southernmost outposts of Safeway on major highways. It looks like Vons
picks up in Bakersfield (99) and Goleta, outside Santa Barbara (101).
Interstate 5 is on the dry west side of the San Joaquin Valley, so it
doesn't really have
When a Mason-Dixon line needs to be established in CA, it'll be called the
Safeway-Vons line.
Quiz: for any major north-south freeway or highway, what are the two cities
that straddle the Safeway-Vons line?
Related question: King City: which store do they have?
Related Cliff Claven Trivia: when
On an entirely unrelated note, I mentioned on Twitter last week that I
finally noticed the name, Safeway..why is it called that?? I'm informed
that back in the olden times before FDA it was a promise of safe food. So
there ya go.
On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 3:03:35 PM UTC-8
The San Francisco Randonneurs are notorious for using Safeways as controls on their brevets. If you know the layout for a typical Safeway, you can save a lot of time hunting for your favorite rest stop snacks when you’re riding with SFR.--Eric NOn Dec 20, 2022, at 2:59 PM, Piaw Na wrote:This is
This is hilarious. I'll pile on with my brother's story. He got rejected by
UC Berkeley and accepted by UCLA. Not to be deterred, he wrote an appeal
letter that stated: "Don't let me go to UCLA. After 4 years there I won't
know what a tree looks like." UC Berkeley reversed its denial and enrolled
Philip just may have something there.
https://local.safeway.com/safeway/ca.html
Curtis
"Who occasionally shops at Safeway"
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022, 2:01 PM Philip Williamson
wrote:
> If you have a Safeway, you're in Northern California.
> If you've got a Vons, you're in SoCal.
>
> Philip
>
Southern California: Distance expressed in time (Anaheim is 45 minutes from here)Northern California: Distance expressed in miles (Folsom is 12 miles away)And yes, up here the cities have actual edges, where you’re out in the country on the way to the next city.--Eric N, Who Moved From SoCal to
The differentiation for me when I moved north in 1988 is there's spaces
between towns in Northern California. If you grew up in LA/Orange Counties
you understood towns as different signs on the same vast concrete
landscape.
On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 2:13:42 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams
I thought the way you knew Northern from Southern California was if people
named freeways with “The”:
“This is the 101” = you’re in Southern California
“This is 101” = you’re in Northern California
“That was Highway 101” = you’re listening to a classic rock station
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at
If you have a Safeway, you're in Northern California.
If you've got a Vons, you're in SoCal.
Philip
Sonoma County, Calif (born in SF)
On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 12:17:22 PM UTC-8 freefo...@gmail.com
wrote:
> The Bay Area isn't Northern California says the guy from Humboldt County.
>
Really wonderful photos. I'm very pleased that Athens is so rideable. I
haven't been there for almost 50 years since we visited an aunt on home
leave; we stayed mostly in Decatur which always struck me as a horrible
place to ride.
Curious: Is that your photography? It seems professional grade to
The Bay Area isn't Northern California says the guy from Humboldt County.
We have way less traffic and better air.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 9:54 PM Luke Hendrickson
wrote:
> Dude living in San Francisco here: it’s pretty great
>
> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:26:54 PM UTC-8 George
+1 on the joys of winter cycling. I lived in Madison for 4 years, and commuted by bike year-round. It helped a lot that the city was good about snow and ice removal, although all the salt pretty much trashed the components on my X0-1 after my first winter there. I ended up turning a Goodwill frame
The Loma Prieta branch of the Sierra Club actively fought trail access for
mountain bikers in the area. It's something many of us here will never
forgive them for. Nevertheless, there are a lot of good trails that are
worth riding available, many of which see no more than 2 cyclists an hour.
Winter cycling in colder climates is a fresh and wonderful form of joy. We
lived in Madison, Wisconsin for seven years and commuting by riding
straight across Lake Mendota was incredibly fun. Plus, I often had the
paths to myself and got a lot of entertainment from taking on big snow
berms.
The best winter cycling for me is no winter at all. No compromises or
adaptations.
Summer, Summer, and Summer and Summer. I Love Summer HOT, HUMID Green
and Balmy SUMMMER !
Where there are few to none "cyclists" around. In other words, where
cycling isn't popular and there is no such
Athens Georgia ranks even below Girona on that lonely planet list, and I
would still consider that a step down (though at least not an entire
staircase down). I would take lonely planet with a grain of salt, since the
thread started with winter cycling, and SF Bay Area is about 5 degrees
I think John was talking about Athens, Georgia. I've visited but never
cycled there, and can confirm that there is food every bit as excellent as
you'll find anywhere. Especially if you're into soul food or barbecue.
-W
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 8:39:11 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
I've been to Athens. It definitely doesn't have mountains comparable to
what you can find in the Santa Cruz mountains. The sheer variety of terrain
from desert to open fields to redwood forests in the Bay Area beats Athens.
For food, try getting great Asian food (Chinese, Japanese and Indian) in
Well, LONELY PLANET disagrees, with this to say:
https://www.lonelyplanet.com/articles/best-places-for-a-cycling-holiday
I've lived both places as cyclist, and confirm LP. Athens, with its
year-round warm sunny days, an endless matrix of beautiful quiet country
lanes (i.e. no traffic),
Or make your winter riding destination the Central Coast of California, San
Luis Obispo for winter riding. Less traffic, same great riding weather!
Mike SLO CA
On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 7:21:17 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
> It's not hype. The Bay Area has the best winter cycling in
It's not hype. The Bay Area has the best winter cycling in the world. But
you don't have to live here to enjoy it --- come visit for a few days in
winter with your bike. It's not a coincidence that the spate of outdoor
companies in the 1980s (Patagonia, Power Bar, Clif Bar, Specialized,
I enjoy watching those videos as well! I could never keep up with he or Ms
Cools but those rides look beautiful!
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 9:54:47 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
> Dude living in San Francisco here: it’s pretty great
>
> On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:26:54 PM
Dude living in San Francisco here: it’s pretty great
On Thursday, December 15, 2022 at 2:26:54 PM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:
> At this time of the year I have to admit that I'm a bit jealous of
> cyclists who live in California, especially in the the NoCal area of the
> "Frisco" bay.
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