Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Ugh. So i got a deal on some rat trap pass tires from a list member which motivated me to put the 26" wheels back on to get a lower brake pad position compared to the 650b wheels. I also went nuts and bought some motolites and tektro rl520 long pull road brake levers for my albastaches. Spent

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

I need to check out Montano Velo, I keep hearing good things about them, they were closed today so I went to Hank and Frank's. There's a cool mechanic there, Benji(?), who helped correct my mistakes and setup the brakes properly. Took it around the block and the braking power so far is aweome. My

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

I've had nothing but great experiences with my Paul Motolites, first on my Fisher MTB and now on my Clem. No problems with setup with or without racks (Tubus rear and Pass & Stow front) and fenders. Excellent brakes and when paired with Paul levers there's tons of adjustability. I'd also

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

The symptoms you've described sounds like you're using cantilever levers with Linear-pull brakes (that the Paul Motolites are, of course). Double-confirm that the levers are truly what they purport to be? I know that the RL520 levers will work with linear-pull brakes, as I have that a combo

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Another aspect of "sponginess" that one should check for is brake pad contact angle. While brake squeals can be attenuated by a bit of toe-in, one should ensure that there isn't too much toe-in *and* the vertical alignment of the pads is good. Specifically, ensure that the entire pad contacts

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Thanks for the advice all. I think I'll go back to the 26" rims to get the brake pads lowered and in a better position on the rim (also a good excuse to get some Rat Trap Passes!) and then rely on a LBS for adjustments if need be (any recommendations for a mechanic in Oakland? I've been using Hank

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

On 01/03/2016 07:49 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: I have had Paul Canti's (Neo Retro & touring) as well as Paul Racer Centerpulls. None (in my opinion) stop as well as a set Shimano XTR V brakes I am using on a 1989 Trek mountain bike. The V brakes were much easier to set up and adjust. Again,

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

The Paul brakes were all set up on road bikes, using road bike levers. The V brakes are using V-brake specific levers. On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 3:01:55 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On 01/03/2016 07:49 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: > > I have had Paul Canti's (Neo Retro & touring)

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

I think you should try lengthening your straddle cable and making sure the pads don't have too much toe in. Sounds like you have too much mechanical advantage or the pads are flexing/rotating as they hit the rim from too much toe. If that doesn't work you could take it to Riv or if you want to

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

> The Paul brakes were all set up on road bikes, using road bike levers. The V brakes are using V-brake specific levers. I have had good luck matching the Paul Min-Vs with Campagnolo Record MTB Flat Bar levers which I believe were made for a year or two in the early '90s. The modern MTB

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 1:32:52 PM UTC-8, Matthew J wrote: > > > The Paul brakes were all set up on road bikes, using road bike levers. > The V brakes are using V-brake specific levers. > > I have had good luck matching the Paul Min-Vs with Campagnolo Record MTB > Flat Bar levers which I

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

90% of the time if your brakes are "squishy" or lack feel, you are using the wrong lever, incorrect housing, or the are not adjusted properly. Most road bike levers for caliper or cantilevers won't work on V brakes or disc brakes. I have Paul levers on 4 bikes and I have the Touring cantis on

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Coming in a bit late to the thread, I realize... Finding someone in most shops who actually knows how to adjust canti's is not easy. Look for the greybeard silverback most-ent-like denizen. As Benz points out - if you have removed gaps or seating issues in the housing so that there's no

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 11:27:54 AM UTC-8, dstein wrote: > > (any recommendations for a mechanic in Oakland? I've been using Hank and > Frank on College Ave just for proximity to my house). > > Cyclesports on Grand has a mature mechanic (i.e., 50 or so) who knows his stuff. jim m wc ca

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Oh I've also used the Campy CX Cantilevers, as well. On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 9:18:00 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote: > > Paul Motolite, in my experience, are hands down the best Paul Brakes (and > best rim brakes I've used). Currently have them on my VO Camargue and they > stop on a dime and

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

I've been totally floored by my Paul touring cantis - best brakes I've ever squeezed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Paul Motolite, in my experience, are hands down the best Paul Brakes (and best rim brakes I've used). Currently have them on my VO Camargue and they stop on a dime and have gobs of power. Takes some time with initial set up, but afterwards very easy to adjust. Minimotos don't have the same

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

dstein asked: "I'm also wondering if the 650b setup is a good idea for brake placement. I can position the pads at the highest setting to reach the 650b rims, but is more at the bottom of the rim rather than the middle or top of the rim like when it was a 26" rim. Does that play into how it

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Maybe squishy isn't the right adjective then? My concern is I have to pull the road levers almost all the way then and even then I feel I am not getting near the stopping power I should be compared to my other bikes (mix of canti's and calipers and discs). Also on the minimotos for anyone

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Regarding straddle. You can use a "normal" straddle wire arrangement on the cx70. LBS should have those. Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

I have CX70 on my 26" Hunqapillar, too. (Just swapped to studded tires. Was running Rat Trap Pass with VO fenders.) I changed from Tektro CR720, and CX70s are much better. I used the straddle hanger and cable, as I have several handlebar setups, and swapping them is easy using the straddle

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

mini motos are short pull so road levers On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 10:21:44 AM UTC-5, dstein wrote: > > Maybe squishy isn't the right adjective then? My concern is I have to pull > the road levers almost all the way then and even then I feel I am not > getting near the stopping power I

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Direct facing photos of both front and rear would be useful ! This may help : http://www.bikeforums.net/recreational-cyclocross-gravelbiking/722673-cantilver-brake-faq.html I suspect and adjustment of the straddle wire would help. The basic straddle carriers are wonderful as they are much

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Hello Brian, I have to agree, the XTR V-brakes from that period where amazing. Their parallelogram design allowed the brake pads to engage the rim perpendicularly, without arching. But I prefer the looks of long arm canti's and they brake well enough for me. JohnS On Sunday, January 3,

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Campy cantis with salmon pads. Best ever. Paul vbrakes don't have the modulation IMO. They stop but they are off or on, not good for dirt. The CX70 are great though! Have you tried messing with straddle wires. Also, mushy feel does not mean bad braking. Clayton Scott, SF, CA -- You received

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

I have no experience with the CX 70, and very little with V brakes. I did have a pair of earlier Shimano cantis, mated to Ultegra brifters, and lots of experience with Paul's brakes, and accessories. The Shimono cantis I had were a precursor to the present offering, model 550 or something?

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

I have had Paul Canti's (Neo Retro & touring) as well as Paul Racer Centerpulls. None (in my opinion) stop as well as a set Shimano XTR V brakes I am using on a 1989 Trek mountain bike. The V brakes were much easier to set up and adjust. Again, all opinion, but opinion borne from actual

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Squishy brakes can mean two things. Either the cable and housing isn't done "tightly", or you have powerful brakes. If the latter, it's a good thing. If the former, switching out the brakes won't help. I've personally found that with low-profile cantilevers that are set up correctly and have

Re: [RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

Clayton - the cx70's have the cable carrier which has a set straddle angle and height. would it be wise to try a straddle wire in its place to mess with the height and adjustment? I'm also wondering if the 650b setup is a good idea for brake placement. I can position the pads at the highest

[RBW] Re: Paul brakes recommendation

This is interesting as I also have a hunq with cx70 brakes that feel squishy. I recently adjusted them and added kool stop pads, and found the squishiness increased, which worried me. I did a 60 mile ride yesterday and adjusted the brakes a couple of times during the ride (once to alleviate