[RBW] Re: Rain Gear

2015-07-29 Thread David Spranger
I use the breathable raincoat and pants from JG cyclewear (http://www.bicycleclothing.com/) . They keep me dry when cool to cold and rainy. I don't mess with rain gear in the warmer months. A big plug for the protection this gear has given me. I was hit hard in a hit-and-run incident earlier

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2015-07-29 Thread Patrick Moore
I used the waxed cotton Carradice (not Brooks) rain cape for a summer monsoon season of commuting here in ABQ, NM and found it too heavy and hot. Perhaps the Brooks is lighter? I find that the cheap Campmore flaps more but isn't as hot. Temps here are usually in the upper 70s to mid 80s during a

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2015-07-29 Thread Garth
Ventile is not completely 100 percent waterproof. It's also bulky , not exactly small packing if packable at all. So called waterproof *and* breathable fabrics only exist as relatives . A truly 100 percent waterproof fabric won't breathe , and a vapor permeable fabric by it's nature

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2015-07-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Can anyone report on riding longer distances in rain wearing wool? I find that wool jerseys stretch even when worn dry: mine grow an inch or more in length after several hours of wearing. I wonder if a wool jersey ridden in the rain would act somewhat like a cotton T shirt in this regard? Me,

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2015-07-29 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 07/29/2015 02:01 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: It's perhaps worth repeating for those new to the rainwear discussion since we last had it that breathable waterproof/repellent modern fabrics worn at aerobic levels of activity (regardless of outside temperature) rapidly feel like wet trash bags

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2015-07-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
It's perhaps worth repeating for those new to the rainwear discussion since we last had it that breathable waterproof/repellent modern fabrics worn at aerobic levels of activity (regardless of outside temperature) rapidly feel like wet trash bags inside because they can not keep up with the

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2015-07-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
Garth, you are right: single layer ventile isn't waterproof. Double layer and Cotton Analogy layers ventile are waterproof. Yes, they are heavier/bulkier. They also replace the weight/bulk of a rain jacket and one layer of warmer clothing, at least for me. I don't know what your definition of

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2015-07-29 Thread Lungimsam
For warm weather rain riding, I'm almost at the point where I want to wear Keen waterproof sandals and just get wet everywhere else. Throw a shower cap on the Brooks and just change clothes when I get home. Though I will say that so far my Gore Tech shoe covers worked well on the last rain ride

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2015-07-29 Thread Montclair BobbyB
+1 on Ventile (for cooler/cold weather... amazing how good this fabric feels); Brooks (waxed cotton) rain cape for warm weather (like having a well-ventilated tent for your bike... love this!!). BB On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 10:15:54 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I'm confused. You sold

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2015-07-29 Thread Philip Kim
Essentially, yes. The other reasons were that I wanted a jacket that could fold into its own pocket, and the POC was more of a club/road riding jacket, and got cool very quickly. This was a problem in colder seasons, which is when I sold it. Now that it's summer, I wish I never sold it. Lesson

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2015-07-29 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'm confused. You sold the best cycling rain jacket you ever wore because of the color, ideal for riding, when you're out for drinks? With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, July 29, 2015 at 6:54:47 AM UTC-6, Philip Kim wrote: Best rain jacket I ever wore for rain was POC Rain jacket, nice and

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2015-07-29 Thread Philip Kim
Best rain jacket I ever wore for rain was POC Rain jacket, nice and bright orange for cars to see you. Highly breathable and light, but very expensive. In the end, I sold it and bought a Patagonia Torrent Shell for and a Columbia Watertight II. They work well enough, and don't scream attention

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2014-09-30 Thread Jay Lonner
Well I'm from the Pacific NW, so I basically have a Ph.D. in rain. Here's my take, after many years of commuting by bike. I'm not a big fan of so-called waterproof/breathable jackets. They just don't live up to the hype. They don't breathe particularly well in humid environments, because

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2014-09-30 Thread Chris Chen
Seconded to underdressing when wearing any rain gear. My JG jacket has done wonders, is made in Oregon, but it's about two (or three?) years old so I'm looking to replace it. I rarely wear rain pants, but often quick-dry fabrics and wool (which stays comfy even when it gets damp) are super handy.

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2014-09-30 Thread Deacon Patrick
+1 for ventile. If Rivendell's offering isn't your thing, I highly recommend Hilltrek in Scotland. Brilliant stuff that works and is hearty and withstands deluges, wind, etc. Get their Cotton Analogy for the most waterproof/breathable option in existence (I've tried nearly all the concepts out

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2014-09-30 Thread Ron Mc
I have the highest tech, lightest weight Gortex 3 technical shell and it works great, just not on a bike. I was wearing it between buildings in a monsoon at a client's plant last week. On a bike you want a bike-specific poncho - you need that tent factor to have moving air and keep you cool.

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2014-09-30 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 09/30/2014 06:34 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: +1 for ventile. If Rivendell's offering isn't your thing, I highly recommend Hilltrek in Scotland. Brilliant stuff that works and is hearty and withstands deluges, wind, etc. Get their Cotton Analogy for the most waterproof/breathable option in

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2014-09-30 Thread Matt Beebe
Wool flannel shirts, wool undewear and socks.Twill dries fairly quickly compared to other cotton, so it's OK for pants. I don't like any kind of 'shell' jackets because i find them suffocating no matter how many vents you add, so I'd rather just be wet and wearing wool. Shells are OK

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2014-09-30 Thread Michael Hechmer
On the other side of the continent I agree. The real problem isn't staying dry, it's not overheating. In commuting it's always best to start out feeling chilly. In warm, rainy weather I finally decided a simple wool jersey was best. When it got cooler having a light wool jacket strapped to

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2014-09-30 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
What I wear varies with the temperature. If it's warm enough for shorts and a T-shirt and sandals, I use a rain cape. Sail be damned, it's cool enough. If it's shorts jacket weather, a rain jacket (Burley) with pit zips. If it's colder than that, I add rain pants. There are son lovely

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2014-09-30 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
I'm from the San Francisco bay area so I don't know if I have enough credibility to offer my suggestion. Nevertheless, we do have about a month or two of cold (almost freezing to high 40°F) rain during the winter months (or at least expect to have; didn't happen last season). It is also

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2012-09-19 Thread pam
I like the 02 jacket. I like the one with the hood. My old one got stolen out of my pannier then I got a North Face jacket with DWR but I sweat too much and I'm just wet from the inside even with pit zips. Now I'm going to wear my husband's 02 jacket. Light, cheap and it works. On

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2012-09-19 Thread Nathan Lee
To add to this: I have a Mission Workshop and have used it pretty successfully for 2 rainy seasons or so. Recently took it on a tour from SF to LA riding solo/ultra light/motel camping. I caught 1 day of 4 hours of rain and had no soak through. I was also much happier at times using the jacket

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2012-09-19 Thread Hoffsta
I am the type to ride very vigorously everywhere I go. I have yet to find rain gear that doesn't leave me overheated and soaked in sweat no matter the outside temps. I'd love to hear from other high output riders who have found success. Sean Eugene, OR -- You received this message because

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2012-09-19 Thread john
In my opinion, keeping warm while riding in the wet is more important than keeping dry. In fact, keeping dry, in really wet weather (be it from perspiration or leaks in fabric) is impossible, regardless of what any manufacturers say. That's why wool is such a great fabric: one tends to stay

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2012-09-19 Thread Tony
Me too Liesl for the Carradice poncho. I bought mine at RBW a few years ago, before they designed their own. I was using the Carradice spats with it, but never liked the way the tops would keep moving below my knees as I rode. So, this winter it'll be Splats and ShinShields. One thing about

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2012-09-18 Thread fugd...@gmail.com
I use Sealskinz socks over wool socks in Shimano clipless sandals here in rainy Vancouver; Showers pass and Rivendell's luxurious bright orange rainpants ( have been told You look just like Kraft Macaroni and Cheese); layers of merino wool and merino tights under MUSA shorts; a dick hat under

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2012-09-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
Looks really interesting. What is the upper range of temperature you can wear this without quickly overheating? On Monday, September 17, 2012 2:16:40 PM UTC-4, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com wrote: I really like the rain jacket from these folks:

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2012-09-18 Thread Lyle Bogart
That's a good question, Michael! I don't have numeric temperature feedback to give but: when I was living in Tacoma, Washington I would wear the jacket while riding during heavy downpours in the summer and, of course, all winter long. Out here in mid-coast Maine, I can't really wear any jacket in

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2012-09-18 Thread Ron MH
I too live and ride in Portland all year and I second Beth's recommendation of Rain Legs; great outside the body water protection, they pack up very small, and great protection from over heating, so no internal moisture problems. Ron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

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2012-09-18 Thread René Sterental
I'm trying the Brooks rain cap this year. Got it as a present... and am hoping to ride it with tail winds!!! René On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: I too live and ride in Portland all year and I second Beth's recommendation of Rain Legs; great outside the body

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2012-09-17 Thread charlie
I use the Showers Pass touring jacket and some rain paints I purchased at REI on sale for $80 (reg. $130). I use outdoor wear rubber duck boots when I know it will rain hard but admit that I try to avoid those days. http://www.llbean.com/llb/search?freeText=Duck+Bootsqs=3006414_pmd_google Your

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2012-09-17 Thread Scot Brooks
Nothing like riding in Bean boots, Charlie! Maybe it's my Downeast upbringing talking, but it's the best! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit

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2012-09-17 Thread Liesl
I do like my Carradice Poncho even though several miles in hard rain will give me damp shoulders. The cape is like a bike tent keeping everything under it, bags and all, relatively dry. And you can wear anything at all under it. I particularly like it in sleet and slushy snow. liesl --

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2012-09-17 Thread Lyle Bogart
I really like the rain jacket from these folks: http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Waterproof-Breathable-Rain-Jackets.html I've an old pair of rain pants (REI maybe?) but am replacing those this autumn with their rain pants: http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Waterproof-Breathable-Rain-Pants.html

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2012-09-17 Thread charlie
Thanks for the link Lyle..this looks like a great place for me to get proper sized shorts and pants for bicycling too. On Monday, September 17, 2012 11:16:40 AM UTC-7, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com wrote: I really like the rain jacket from these folks:

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2012-09-17 Thread Stonehog
I have and like both, as well as the helmet cover. They are built well, MUSA, and rely on large hidden vents instead of breathable fabric. I've worn the combo on a rain/snow 35 degree 200k this spring and only had wet hands. For light Seattle rain for my 10mile commute, I just use a shell

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2012-09-15 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
I'm quite happy with the $20 O2 jackets. They are extremely light weight, breathable and 100% waterproof, and come either with or without a hood. No pockets at all unfortunately. Jay On Sep 15, 1:11 pm, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote: I've been pleased with a Shower's Pass

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2012-09-15 Thread Matthew J
Mission Work shop makes a very nice if expensive rain jacket. The regular is very light. They make one ultra-light for extra dollars. The jacket is made out of a water proof fabric that moves well with the body. Three pockets in front, one well hidden pocket inback. It has vent zips.

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2012-09-15 Thread Michael Hechmer
This is a tricky question; it's all temperature dependent. If its 80+ I usually just ignore the rain. Below that I have a light weight pearl izumi rain jacket, but it doesn't breath all that well. If it's cool enough for arm warmers before it starts raining I really like an older Ibex shak

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2012-09-15 Thread Ron Mc
For those of us who like to keep a poncho stuffed away, I think Vaude makes certainly the best buy in cycle-specific ponchos. The trick is finding and/or getting one over here. I ordered a pair from Dresden. On Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:55:57 PM UTC-5, tragicallyaverage wrote: As

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2012-09-15 Thread Beth H
What kind of rain gear depends greatly on where you live and how much you ride. I'm a daily rider in Portland, OR and I ride all winter long. I have been somewhat disappointed by Showers Pass, especially since they moved their manufacturing from Vietnam to China a few years ago. Quality