[RBW] Re: Well, Damn

2014-09-09 Thread Mobile Bill
Chris AND Tom Thanks for reminding us all what it's like to be on both sides. I've been in a car more than I'd like lately, and shudder when I recognize how much our view of the world changes when we're looking through a windshield. I'm committing to be a more visual driver and a more

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2014-09-08 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
: Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident from both sides. That said, I *was* going straight and the car entered my space, so... In any event, I'm going to spend a few

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2014-09-08 Thread Bill Lindsay
Tom, my friend. I'm really sorry for the pain and guilt you must be feeling. I'll try to help you make something good come out of your experience by promising that I will recommit myself to being as careful as I can be when I'm behind the wheel. Thank you very much for sharing it. Bill

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2014-09-08 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och, Tom! I am so sorry you are experiencing the guilt of what happened. Perhaps it's ignorance on my part, but I have a hard time picturing anyone on this group being an unconscientious driver. Granted I do not ride in very populated areas, so the volume of traffic I have to contend with and

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2014-09-08 Thread Patrick Moore
:* mason-hill-rabble-rousers-fan-c...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident from both sides. That said, I *was* going straight and the car

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2014-09-08 Thread Chris Chen
, September 07, 2014 5:54 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Cc:* mason-hill-rabble-rousers-fan-c...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see

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2014-09-08 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn One has to exercise reasonable care and the bar for this is quite high when we drive a 2 ton vehicle at speeds far above what is normally human. That said, we live in an imperfect world and no one, I repeat no one, can expect to be fully alert

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2014-09-08 Thread Patrick Moore
, September 08, 2014 1:52 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Well, Damn One has to exercise reasonable care and the bar for this is quite high when we drive a 2 ton vehicle at speeds far above what is normally human. That said, we live in an imperfect world and no one, I

[RBW] Re: Well, Damn

2014-09-08 Thread Cecily Walker
Shit, Chris. I'm so glad you're OK. What a scary thing to have happen. On Saturday, September 6, 2014 8:01:26 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway towards the bridge, at Flanders, when a silver VW Golf making a left

[RBW] Re: Well, Damn

2014-09-08 Thread Evan
Chris: Bummer! Here's wishing you a full and fast recovery. (Glad your humor is intact.) Tom: Thanks for sharing your story. I, for one, resolve to be more mindful on the roads because of what you wrote. Evan E. SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

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2014-09-07 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Oh, geez. Glad you're mostly intact, so sorry for your bike! What others have said. Photograph *everything.* If you have bruises that emerge over time, take photos every day to show the progress. And be very careful, injuries can appear after a while, so go slow, but check everything out.

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2014-09-07 Thread ascpgh
Glad you're OK and in good wit about the crash. 2° what Patrick said, they take the rates to cover losses. Each time I've been hit, the driver seemed more deeply impacted than me when all was said and done (by sheer grace, and deeper into a line of credit with Karma). Sort of my own program

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2014-09-07 Thread Michael Hechmer
Christopher, glad you are feeling OK, due be cautious about your recovery. This all reminds me why I wear a helmet. The one kind of fall they are most helpful in is a collision. You may get a concussion but chance of a skull fracture go way down. I hope neither the driver nor insurance

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2014-09-07 Thread Ron Mc
there's no milk in horchata - at least there's not supposed to be http://noshon.it/blog/2013/07/how-to-make-authentic-mexican-horchata/ Christopher, wishing you healing and safety. Same for your bike... On Saturday, September 6, 2014 11:04:51 PM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: Bah. On the

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2014-09-07 Thread Deacon Patrick
Och! Chris! Prayers for a rapid and full recovery. Since it is my unwitting area of expertise, here is the brain injury stuff that hopefully will not apply, but likely does to some extend due to the rapid deceleration you, and the brain in your skull, experienced. Any idea how fast the car was

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2014-09-07 Thread Eunice Chang
Well, damn indeed. I'm glad you're okay, Chris. Based on previous experience, definitely take the insurance route. Riv may be able to give you an estimate for repairs. Wishing you a speedy recovery, -E. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

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2014-09-07 Thread Mike
It was an unpleasant surprise to see you at work yesterday. I'm glad you're well. I meant to pop back in and see you but I was quite busy on the other side of the ER. Hope you heal quickly. Also hope Homer is back on the road soon. You certainly seemed to fair better than my last friend who

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2014-09-07 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Yikes! Glad to hear that you escaped relatively intact. Patrick M. gives great, salient advice. You will probably discover more aches and pains (document!) as your body relaxes over the next few days. Definitely get ahold of your auto insurance co if you have any. One of the reasons I'll

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2014-09-07 Thread Lynne Fitz
After my left hook in Jan 2013 (on NW Evergreen just after it splits off from NW Cornell, by the Verizon store), I also got left-hooked by his insurance. Fortunately *I* have good insurance. After going into work and getting yelled at by everyone, I spent the day in the ER. The first doctor

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2014-09-07 Thread Ryan
Glad you are OK...but take care of yourself as Patrick Moore advises, (and I suspect he well knows what he's talking about!) and make sure you file a claim for whatever you're legally entitled to. I wish you a speedy recovery...evidently you still have your sense of humour which is a good

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2014-09-07 Thread Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado
People just can't wait 3 seconds for a bike to get through an intersection.I hope you recover quickly. Inspect your bike for hidden damage: Feel under the down tube and top tube just behind the head tube for any bulges that may have ben caused by the impact. Have the bike shop remove the fork

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2014-09-07 Thread Bill Gibson
We are the place for good advice on this sort of thing! I especially agree with the two Patricks. Our legal/medical/insurance system is built on short-term adversarial relationships, but this kind of accident can be long-term life changing, especially if you feel like jumping up after being hit

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2014-09-07 Thread Chris Chen
Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident from both sides. That said, I *was* going straight and the car entered my space, so... In any event, I'm going to spend a few minutes today to take parts off

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2014-09-07 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
VERY glad to hear you are doing as well. If you need my 57 Hilsen frame and or fork on free loan till your's is sorted, let me know. I'll could have it in transit tomorrow or tuesday. Keep up the mending. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 3:53:57 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote: Thanks everyone

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2014-09-07 Thread Chris Chen
Oh my god Jinxed that makes me want to cry. I'll be riding the chicken once my new helmet gets here, so I'm good. But THANK YOU! On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM, 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: VERY glad to hear you are doing as well. If you need my 57

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2014-09-07 Thread Andrew Marchant-Shapiro
Given the look of that impact, check the front hub carefully before using it to rebuild a wheel...you may need a new Schmidt. On Sunday, September 7, 2014 6:00:27 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote: Oh my god Jinxed that makes me want to cry. I'll be riding the chicken once my new helmet gets

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2014-09-07 Thread Matthew J
Thanks everyone for the kind words. It's a bit sad we live in an adversarial sort of culture, because it's really easy to see this incident from both sides. That said, *was* going straight and the car entered my space, so... Don't even let yourself feel even a bit at fault. Left turning

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2014-09-07 Thread Bill Lindsay
Dang, that mighty Homer is used up. R.I.P. Homer. Bummer. :-( I'd rather see a hundred crumpled Homers than a single broken bone on you, CC. I'm super grateful for that. There's a sign on the display Hunqapillar at Bike Book and Hatchet that reads. This is a Bicycle. Bicycles have no

[RBW] Re: Well, Damn

2014-09-06 Thread Chris Chen
Oh yeah pics prove a windshield is actually a pretty good energy absorption device: https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157646898586679/ On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: My Hilsen is out of commission for a little while. Heading on NW Broadway

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2014-09-06 Thread lungimsam
I hate when people on bikes get hit by cars, because it just...doesn't...have...to happen in the first place, when you think about it. Of course, I guess that's the same for an auto hitting an auto, too. I am glad you are ok and hope the bike can be fixed and that you will not need

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2014-09-06 Thread cyclotourist
At least you got a milkshake out of it! Take it easy and recover wholly! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:40 PM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: I hate when people on bikes get hit by cars, because it

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2014-09-06 Thread Manuel Acosta
Bah. On the plus side horchata milkshakes do have special healing properties. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2014-09-06 Thread Dennis Hogan
Dude - that is practically right out of your home. Good thing it wasn't the Chicken. You would probably be the one doing the damageLOL. Really, glad it wasn't any worse. Hope you recover quickly Dennis in PDX On Saturday, September 6, 2014 8:01:26 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: My